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	<title>Comments on: Hawaiian Airlines:  Mixed News</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://beatofhawaii.com/hawaiian-airlines-mixed-news/#comment-1564</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rob,

Yeah... I worked for Hawaiian a while back &#38; I'm still a fan even though I don't work there any more. 

I didn't think your opinions were negative, just kind of confusing. Even thought I don't work in the airline industry anymore, I still enjoy keeping up on the latest news. Some of the things you say are somewhat thought provoking... I would love to read whatever it is that you are reading that makes you come to some of your conclusions.  

For example: If I were to say that Quantis will likely buy Go! airlines in the next few months... You would likely want to know where I am getting my information or want to know why I would come to that kind of conclusion. It's only natural.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rob,</p>
<p>Yeah&#8230; I worked for Hawaiian a while back &amp; I&#8217;m still a fan even though I don&#8217;t work there any more. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think your opinions were negative, just kind of confusing. Even thought I don&#8217;t work in the airline industry anymore, I still enjoy keeping up on the latest news. Some of the things you say are somewhat thought provoking&#8230; I would love to read whatever it is that you are reading that makes you come to some of your conclusions.  </p>
<p>For example: If I were to say that Quantis will likely buy Go! airlines in the next few months&#8230; You would likely want to know where I am getting my information or want to know why I would come to that kind of conclusion. It&#8217;s only natural.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://beatofhawaii.com/hawaiian-airlines-mixed-news/#comment-1560</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment from Beat of Hawaii,

Hi Dave and Island Boy,

Our travel forecast is based on 30 years of personal experience and extensive research in the industry, and comes from analyses of many different sources and contacts.  We enjoy sharing our travel forecast with our fast growing readership and know that not everyone will always be in agreement.  Only time will tell.

Regarding sources, we choose to not always list them.  We do not write Beat of Hawaii as a news digest.  In many of our posts we provide our own insight into what's happening in the industry based on our research.

Dave, I found through a Google search of your name that you are, or have been associated, with Hawaiian Airlines marketing.  It seems therefore, that you might be biased on any negative report we write on Hawaiian Airlines.

Beat of Hawaii is a non-commercial site that is not owned or affiliated with any travel related company.  Our reviews remain unbiased to the best of our ability.

With that being said, here are three examples on the questions you raised.  1). First Class seat pitch on Hawaiian is generally 42 inches and on Continental it's a comfortable 55 inches.  2). Regarding Hawaiian being acquired, I gave an industry example in our "Three Travel Industry Changes Which Will Affect You," post from the CEO of Qantas.  3). Finally, flight delays on Hawaiian are easily researched and discussed on travel forums.

Thanks for the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment from Beat of Hawaii,</p>
<p>Hi Dave and Island Boy,</p>
<p>Our travel forecast is based on 30 years of personal experience and extensive research in the industry, and comes from analyses of many different sources and contacts.  We enjoy sharing our travel forecast with our fast growing readership and know that not everyone will always be in agreement.  Only time will tell.</p>
<p>Regarding sources, we choose to not always list them.  We do not write Beat of Hawaii as a news digest.  In many of our posts we provide our own insight into what&#8217;s happening in the industry based on our research.</p>
<p>Dave, I found through a Google search of your name that you are, or have been associated, with Hawaiian Airlines marketing.  It seems therefore, that you might be biased on any negative report we write on Hawaiian Airlines.</p>
<p>Beat of Hawaii is a non-commercial site that is not owned or affiliated with any travel related company.  Our reviews remain unbiased to the best of our ability.</p>
<p>With that being said, here are three examples on the questions you raised.  1). First Class seat pitch on Hawaiian is generally 42 inches and on Continental it&#8217;s a comfortable 55 inches.  2). Regarding Hawaiian being acquired, I gave an industry example in our &#8220;Three Travel Industry Changes Which Will Affect You,&#8221; post from the CEO of Qantas.  3). Finally, flight delays on Hawaiian are easily researched and discussed on travel forums.</p>
<p>Thanks for the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://beatofhawaii.com/hawaiian-airlines-mixed-news/#comment-1558</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to agree with Island Boy. 

It's great that you post your opinion but it would be great if you could link to sources of information that you base these opinions on. Otherwise they might seem like crazy ideas or personal opinions bases on a single personal encounter. 

For example:
"Continental is the clear standout as best to Hawaii." 

What do you base this statement on? Was there some sort of national survey that you could link to? Or maybe you flew both airlines in first class and you personally prefer Continental?

"Hawaiian is still most likely a candidate for near term acquisition by one of the larger players, as we have previously indicated."

WOW! - That sounds like crazy talk to me. Why would you think that? 

"We have seen reports of numerous flight delays and cancellations at Hawaiian recently. The reason appears to be over-utilization of aircraft." 

Again... Do you have a link to something? How do you define over-utilization? Is that the same standard that the airline industry uses to define over-utilization? many things can cause delays. Why do you say it's caused by over-utilization?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to agree with Island Boy. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that you post your opinion but it would be great if you could link to sources of information that you base these opinions on. Otherwise they might seem like crazy ideas or personal opinions bases on a single personal encounter. </p>
<p>For example:<br />
&#8220;Continental is the clear standout as best to Hawaii.&#8221; </p>
<p>What do you base this statement on? Was there some sort of national survey that you could link to? Or maybe you flew both airlines in first class and you personally prefer Continental?</p>
<p>&#8220;Hawaiian is still most likely a candidate for near term acquisition by one of the larger players, as we have previously indicated.&#8221;</p>
<p>WOW! - That sounds like crazy talk to me. Why would you think that? </p>
<p>&#8220;We have seen reports of numerous flight delays and cancellations at Hawaiian recently. The reason appears to be over-utilization of aircraft.&#8221; </p>
<p>Again&#8230; Do you have a link to something? How do you define over-utilization? Is that the same standard that the airline industry uses to define over-utilization? many things can cause delays. Why do you say it&#8217;s caused by over-utilization?</p>
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		<title>By: Island Boy</title>
		<link>http://beatofhawaii.com/hawaiian-airlines-mixed-news/#comment-1548</link>
		<dc:creator>Island Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you basing your future predictions on?  Not getting A330's,  I would like to know the inside information that you think you know better then any other industry observers?

I you have an opinion, thats fine, but back it up with some facts, instead of something that you feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you basing your future predictions on?  Not getting A330&#8217;s,  I would like to know the inside information that you think you know better then any other industry observers?</p>
<p>I you have an opinion, thats fine, but back it up with some facts, instead of something that you feel.</p>
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