101 thoughts on “As Heads Roll + No Hawaii Travel In Sight, Now What?”
Paul C
Who votes for Tulsa? I would genuinely like to know
Alfred H
Hawaii has the worst restaurant recovery rate of any city in the United States. You can see the effects of this on Open Table. Seated diners from online, phone, and walk-in reservations are are down 97%, year over year and the trend is getting worse, not better.
Ken
It’s not the President , It is the states government elected officials that control the COVID response.
The Federal government gave the guidelines , leaving it up to the states to open up following those guidelines. Each states interprets those guidelines based on their states response to The Wuhan virus.
Look at South Dakota , they have never closed.
Don’t blame the President, blame your own elected official and Health department advisor to the Governor or Mayors.
Dave R
Hawai’i: 53 COVID deaths per million population.
South Dakota: 191 COVID deaths per million population. Nearly 4x the death rate. And Sturgis appears to have created more.
SD is not a model for HI to follow.
It’s so funny how people love to bring in all sorts of other states as supposed models, and all those states are doing so much worse in terms of results.
JohnW
You’re right Dave but anyone who makes a point of calling it the “Wuhan” virus loses me from taking them too serious anyway.
Google the owner of the Philadelphia Eagles response to America’s handling of this. Agree or not you can’t deny the points he makes
nor cringe at anyone in America pointing fingers at anyone else…..so sad in “Trumps America” we have failed in so many ways.
We are horribly divided, shockingly ineffective given all the resources we have and so many people are suffering because of it.
We’ll overcome, but it’s taking way longer then it should have.
Richard C
As Heads Roll + No Hawaii Travel In Sight, Now What?
Answer: More of the same.
Most if not all who’ve been fired are Governor appointed positions. The same Governor will now get to appoint new party cronies to these cherry high paying positions.
Also if you know anything about state government you don’t fire your pals. Instead they get to retire collect a fat pension, some will take a private sector lobbyist job or move to a low tax mainland state.
This week I picked up 2 new customers both recent transplants from Hawaii both nurses. They relayed to us that because of low pay, high cost of living including housing and poor working conditions nurses are fleeing Hawaii.
Now I’m reading about nursing shortages on Hawaii that’s not a good thing during covid crisis.
Tim m
Thank you for keeping us informed on the Hawai’i travel situation. Today I watched a video of Waikiki filmed today and it looks like a ghost town , the stores are boarded up and no cars or people on the street . October 1 may just be another opening date that comes and then Is extended further. It will take hotels and restaurants and stores a month to get ready to open . Tourism will take a long time to recover . If the light rail project is any indication of the ability to manage things i would say TheHawai’i travel industry is in for quite a shock .
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Tim.
Thanks.
Aloha.
Cuz'n ill
Oct 1 is the date when airlines can lay off employees and cancel routes. The US economy will suffer greatly when this starts. The tourism industry will also suffer. Hotels may fail, Airlines may fail, etc. Plus the highly contagious, fatal to some virus will still be with us. Politics have ruined the opportunity to return to normal. Americans cannot leave the country. Visitors are not the problem, the problem is that the virus is out of control everywhere in the US. It has effected all Americans. I live in Hawaii and it’s not normal here. Not even close.
Dave R
The virus is out of control in many parts of the US because too many people wanted business as usual. And, since each state (and in some cases, counties and cities) was free to make up its own rules, we’ve been playing whack-a-mole. Countries that took a nationwide approach with nationwide restrictions *immediately* were able to get the virus under control. NZ, Vietnam (yep, Vietnam), ROK, for example. But the US is full of people who won’t cooperate and have tried to pretend that the virus was somehow a political issue. So now Americans can’t go to Japan or Europe (and maybe other places) because, basically, as a group we’re not to be trusted. Rather than blame HI, maybe we should be blaming all the states and localities that refused to take action, and all the selfish, irresponsible covidiots who are running around spreading the disease (Look at me on Instagram! Here I am in Hawai’i, breaking the rules! Aren’t I cool and clever?)
Joerg H
Right on!
Roy H
Truly a very ugly affair. Mahalo for the info Guys.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Roy.
Thanks for your comments.
Aloha.
Sheldon W
Why can’t Ige see that the islands will go bankrupt if he doesn’t open things up on October 1st? Is he this blind and stupid treating the people who voted him into office the way he is? All they need to do is have people traveling over to Hawaii is get a negative test 72 hours before traveling over to the islands. They can also be tested again if they are on the islands longer than 10 days. Why can’t Ige see this is he this blind or doesn’t care that the islands go broke and will never be able to get themselves out of the hole he’s putting the people in.
Joerg H
This sounds like the herd immunity approach that the Presidents unqualified advisor is currently pushing. Just some quick numbers for you here. In order to reach herd immunity, roughly 70% of the population needs to get infected. So if we JUST take Hawaii, with a population of about 1.3 million that means about 900K people will have to be infected. Ignoring the fact that if that happens too quickly the health services in Hawaii will be overwhelmed, AND ignoring the fact that out of the 900K about 1/2 or 450K will get symptoms (i.e. feel sick), and out of THAT roughly 20% or 90K will end up in the ICU or otherwise REALLY sick. If JUST focus on the deaths and we assume a 1% death rate, that means about 9,000 people will die. Is that something that you are willing to accept. Is it OK if your loved ones are part of all that?
Ron
Hawaii is doomed. Whereever democrats are incharge everything is a mess. Is seems that the voters don’t understand (better not say that they are dumb) and keep voting them in to office. Time to cross Hawaii off the list of vacation destinations and look elsewhere.
Kevin C.
And who is President?
Bob
I think the more appropriate question here is: Who is the Governor of Hawaii? Another good one would be: Which party has been in control of Hawaii fro the last 50 years?
Kevin C
Covid has been around 50 years? Divert much?
Paul C
LMAO yes covid is a virus but Covid19 has only been around since 2019. Hello
Lee S
Amen, Bob!
Dave R
Oh, those evil Democrats! Everything is always all their fault. Amazing how life has gone on for so long in Hawai’i, California, and other Dem-run states.
BTW, HI is supposedly Democrat but most of what goes on there sure looks like GOP policies in practice. I exclude COVID issues because it is not and should not be a political issue.
Sick people can’t work and don’t consume. Nor do dead people. Just open up and let ‘er rip is a formula for disaster. People really need to go back and look what what things were like in NYC or NJ in the early days of pandemic, when people were dying like flies because of delays in shutting down restaurants, etc. That is not what HI wants or needs.
JohnW
Pssst Ron, the “I hate Democrat’s” MAGA. hat tourists are the one’s we miss the least……this isn’t a playground for white people,
it’s a melting pot of all kinds of people that make it special. The one’s that don’t see that are the one’s that always bad mouth Hawaii
and never see the beauty of the Islands.
Hawaii and what makes it special is still here, when it does open up it will be all the more special. Adversity builds strength, I’m seeing
plenty of examples of local businesses innovating to survive. Many people are helping others when they can and Hawaii will survive and be stronger.
..and for the record I’m NOT defending our current leaders, it’s the people of Hawaii that will survive in spite of them.
JonL
Why has the infection rate suddenly surged so much in spite of an arrival quarantine in place since March? Something isn’t working; and no one can blame the surge on inbound travelers. It’s either a failure to mask, or a failure to social distance, probably both. Dare say I that the 14-day quarantine requirement is redundant and a waste of Hawaii’s financial and human resources? It completely undermines and demoralizes tourism. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Don’t kill off the patient to eradicate the disease. Do away with the born-again Safe Travels app, do away with the quarantine. Welcome back visitors, BUT double efforts to require masking, social distancing and contact tracing. Increase availability of C19 testing. Mahalo for NOT tar and feathering me for making this post.
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Who votes for Tulsa? I would genuinely like to know
Hawaii has the worst restaurant recovery rate of any city in the United States. You can see the effects of this on Open Table. Seated diners from online, phone, and walk-in reservations are are down 97%, year over year and the trend is getting worse, not better.
It’s not the President , It is the states government elected officials that control the COVID response.
The Federal government gave the guidelines , leaving it up to the states to open up following those guidelines. Each states interprets those guidelines based on their states response to The Wuhan virus.
Look at South Dakota , they have never closed.
Don’t blame the President, blame your own elected official and Health department advisor to the Governor or Mayors.
Hawai’i: 53 COVID deaths per million population.
South Dakota: 191 COVID deaths per million population. Nearly 4x the death rate. And Sturgis appears to have created more.
SD is not a model for HI to follow.
It’s so funny how people love to bring in all sorts of other states as supposed models, and all those states are doing so much worse in terms of results.
You’re right Dave but anyone who makes a point of calling it the “Wuhan” virus loses me from taking them too serious anyway.
Google the owner of the Philadelphia Eagles response to America’s handling of this. Agree or not you can’t deny the points he makes
nor cringe at anyone in America pointing fingers at anyone else…..so sad in “Trumps America” we have failed in so many ways.
We are horribly divided, shockingly ineffective given all the resources we have and so many people are suffering because of it.
We’ll overcome, but it’s taking way longer then it should have.
As Heads Roll + No Hawaii Travel In Sight, Now What?
Answer: More of the same.
Most if not all who’ve been fired are Governor appointed positions. The same Governor will now get to appoint new party cronies to these cherry high paying positions.
Also if you know anything about state government you don’t fire your pals. Instead they get to retire collect a fat pension, some will take a private sector lobbyist job or move to a low tax mainland state.
This week I picked up 2 new customers both recent transplants from Hawaii both nurses. They relayed to us that because of low pay, high cost of living including housing and poor working conditions nurses are fleeing Hawaii.
Now I’m reading about nursing shortages on Hawaii that’s not a good thing during covid crisis.
Thank you for keeping us informed on the Hawai’i travel situation. Today I watched a video of Waikiki filmed today and it looks like a ghost town , the stores are boarded up and no cars or people on the street . October 1 may just be another opening date that comes and then Is extended further. It will take hotels and restaurants and stores a month to get ready to open . Tourism will take a long time to recover . If the light rail project is any indication of the ability to manage things i would say TheHawai’i travel industry is in for quite a shock .
Hi Tim.
Thanks.
Aloha.
Oct 1 is the date when airlines can lay off employees and cancel routes. The US economy will suffer greatly when this starts. The tourism industry will also suffer. Hotels may fail, Airlines may fail, etc. Plus the highly contagious, fatal to some virus will still be with us. Politics have ruined the opportunity to return to normal. Americans cannot leave the country. Visitors are not the problem, the problem is that the virus is out of control everywhere in the US. It has effected all Americans. I live in Hawaii and it’s not normal here. Not even close.
The virus is out of control in many parts of the US because too many people wanted business as usual. And, since each state (and in some cases, counties and cities) was free to make up its own rules, we’ve been playing whack-a-mole. Countries that took a nationwide approach with nationwide restrictions *immediately* were able to get the virus under control. NZ, Vietnam (yep, Vietnam), ROK, for example. But the US is full of people who won’t cooperate and have tried to pretend that the virus was somehow a political issue. So now Americans can’t go to Japan or Europe (and maybe other places) because, basically, as a group we’re not to be trusted. Rather than blame HI, maybe we should be blaming all the states and localities that refused to take action, and all the selfish, irresponsible covidiots who are running around spreading the disease (Look at me on Instagram! Here I am in Hawai’i, breaking the rules! Aren’t I cool and clever?)
Right on!
Truly a very ugly affair. Mahalo for the info Guys.
Hi Roy.
Thanks for your comments.
Aloha.
Why can’t Ige see that the islands will go bankrupt if he doesn’t open things up on October 1st? Is he this blind and stupid treating the people who voted him into office the way he is? All they need to do is have people traveling over to Hawaii is get a negative test 72 hours before traveling over to the islands. They can also be tested again if they are on the islands longer than 10 days. Why can’t Ige see this is he this blind or doesn’t care that the islands go broke and will never be able to get themselves out of the hole he’s putting the people in.
This sounds like the herd immunity approach that the Presidents unqualified advisor is currently pushing. Just some quick numbers for you here. In order to reach herd immunity, roughly 70% of the population needs to get infected. So if we JUST take Hawaii, with a population of about 1.3 million that means about 900K people will have to be infected. Ignoring the fact that if that happens too quickly the health services in Hawaii will be overwhelmed, AND ignoring the fact that out of the 900K about 1/2 or 450K will get symptoms (i.e. feel sick), and out of THAT roughly 20% or 90K will end up in the ICU or otherwise REALLY sick. If JUST focus on the deaths and we assume a 1% death rate, that means about 9,000 people will die. Is that something that you are willing to accept. Is it OK if your loved ones are part of all that?
Hawaii is doomed. Whereever democrats are incharge everything is a mess. Is seems that the voters don’t understand (better not say that they are dumb) and keep voting them in to office. Time to cross Hawaii off the list of vacation destinations and look elsewhere.
And who is President?
I think the more appropriate question here is: Who is the Governor of Hawaii? Another good one would be: Which party has been in control of Hawaii fro the last 50 years?
Covid has been around 50 years? Divert much?
LMAO yes covid is a virus but Covid19 has only been around since 2019. Hello
Amen, Bob!
Oh, those evil Democrats! Everything is always all their fault. Amazing how life has gone on for so long in Hawai’i, California, and other Dem-run states.
BTW, HI is supposedly Democrat but most of what goes on there sure looks like GOP policies in practice. I exclude COVID issues because it is not and should not be a political issue.
Sick people can’t work and don’t consume. Nor do dead people. Just open up and let ‘er rip is a formula for disaster. People really need to go back and look what what things were like in NYC or NJ in the early days of pandemic, when people were dying like flies because of delays in shutting down restaurants, etc. That is not what HI wants or needs.
Pssst Ron, the “I hate Democrat’s” MAGA. hat tourists are the one’s we miss the least……this isn’t a playground for white people,
it’s a melting pot of all kinds of people that make it special. The one’s that don’t see that are the one’s that always bad mouth Hawaii
and never see the beauty of the Islands.
Hawaii and what makes it special is still here, when it does open up it will be all the more special. Adversity builds strength, I’m seeing
plenty of examples of local businesses innovating to survive. Many people are helping others when they can and Hawaii will survive and be stronger.
..and for the record I’m NOT defending our current leaders, it’s the people of Hawaii that will survive in spite of them.
Why has the infection rate suddenly surged so much in spite of an arrival quarantine in place since March? Something isn’t working; and no one can blame the surge on inbound travelers. It’s either a failure to mask, or a failure to social distance, probably both. Dare say I that the 14-day quarantine requirement is redundant and a waste of Hawaii’s financial and human resources? It completely undermines and demoralizes tourism. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Don’t kill off the patient to eradicate the disease. Do away with the born-again Safe Travels app, do away with the quarantine. Welcome back visitors, BUT double efforts to require masking, social distancing and contact tracing. Increase availability of C19 testing. Mahalo for NOT tar and feathering me for making this post.
Hi Jon.
Thanks.
Aloha.