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Thank you for the update
We fly to the Big Island on May 4th from Florida. I am still unsure. If we have had both of our shots, will we have to have COVID testing done 72 hours before the flight?
Traveling to Hawaii in May 2021
Someone suggested researching First Vitals after the above information. They are a Honolulu based company! What a surprise!
Check into the ownership of First Vitals…
Yep – they are Honolulu based and owned. Surprised?
I do have a quick question, our flight leaves at 5:30 PM from Oakland. We can get a covid test at Kaiser, however it will be 73 hours before the flight as Kaiser’s last time slot is 4:30 PM.
Should we gamble on the 73 hours or just wait until the next morning?
Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Lee
Hi Lee.
Sounds like an unnecessary risk to exceed 72 hours. Our understanding is the rules will be enforced.
Aloha.
Hi Lee , get your vaccine appointment the next day , I don’t think you should take that gamble .
Thank Tim, we did book it for the next day in the morning. Hopefully Kaiser can get the results back to us pretty quick.
I believe that forcing people to get a vaccine before traveling is a way of controlling my rights as a American,there are laws against using my medical records. Been to Hawaii several times,with this new way of things because I won’t get a vaccine I can’t fly. Nothing there I miss any way.
Immunizations are required for all sorts of things already – school, military, and certain international travel destinations. People are treating CoVID like it’s something new and magical, when really it’s not, and we need merely drop a new virus into an existing framework.
You are correct that there are laws against accessing your medical records *without your permission*, but there are still instances in which government or private agencies may do so (for example, if you come into the hospital unconscious).
Of course, you might find vaccination a limitation on your rights. It is also the right of the State of Hawaii to decide that unvaccinated or untested travelers pose an unacceptable safety risk to their community.
Technically speaking, you still don’t (and likely won’t) need the vaccine to fly to Hawaii, but you WILL require a negative CoVID test. Frankly, this is expensive and inconvenient, but on my last visit I did it to help protect myself and Hawaii. I look forward to being able to use my vaccination to be both socially responsible and to streamline the process for travel.
What “rights” exactly do you think are impaired by vaccination requirements? Your right to contract a potentially fatal illness? Your right to put others at risk of dying? Your right to not be a responsible member of the community and help end the pandemic?
Honestly, as a healthcare provider this belligerence mystifies me. We are tired of watching people die, and I would do a LOT more than just get a vaccine to save lives from this terrible illness.
Maybe you need to consider not just your rights as an individual, but your responsibilities as a member of society.
Larry D… One of the best written, most intelligent posts I’ve read. Kudos!
Well said, Larry D!
I wish that this board had a video posting option. Your powerful testimony comes from both an educated, realistic framework and your facts blunt any anti-vax argument out there. You covered all the objections in an intelligent, forceful manner.
Personally, I am convinced that the Q-bots are largely behind the rash of misinformation floating in the “netosphere”.
Excellent comment. What are people afraid of? So what if I have to get it again in six months or twelve. I wear a seatbelt everyday, take my vitamins, cook meat to Avoid botulism or whatever, how is this different?
What are we afraid of? Well, these are experimental vaccines with no longterm safety data. Do they cause autoimmune diseases, cancer? We do not know and will not for quite sometime.
Larry D; I respectfully disagree with you. Primarily, because none of this has ever applied to any other communicable deadly disease and there have been plenty. Americans have always been given free choice without limitations. As it should be. Free choice also includes locking yourself in your home, wearing a mask or a space suit and never seeing another living soul until the all-clear whistle is blown. The constitution does not have a caveat stating you cannot travel between states “except”. The federal government and some state governments are illegally remaining in a perpetual “state of emergency” in order to continue these limitations on our movements and abilities to earn an income. As long as people are willing to allow these things to continue because they are being fed barrels of fear, we will never be a free society again. We are NOT free right now. Unfortunately, covid has caused a fog in the air preventing some people from seeing it.
Vaccinations should ALWAYS be voluntary. They are only giving the illusion that this vaccine is voluntary. But, when you’re being shamed or the government is saying if you’ve been vaccinated you are free to enjoy life again without a mask (only around other fabulously vaccinated people, of course), that’s not voluntary. That’s coercion, which is absolutely mind blowing to me that its not obvious to others. I will accept the shame, its worth it to me. I don’t live in fear. It only manifests what is feared, just so the person can say, “I told you so.”
Kimberly. Really? There are state school, medical environment, military and foreign travel requirements for vaccines aplenty.
State vaccination laws include vaccination requirements for children in public and private schools and daycare settings, college/university students, and healthcare workers and patients in certain facilities.
You aren’t really arguing that highly contagious diseases, such as measles, mumps, rubella, and whooping cough should not be required of school age children?
The military requires boot camp registrants to have seven different vaccines to prevent the spread of highly contagious diseases in the interest of preserving readiness.
You wouldn’t be in favor of entire regiments to be decimated as they were in the 1918 pandemic?
As a private citizen, you can certainly opt out. Just don’t plan on any international travel, cruises or attending certain events. The private sector, foreign governments and businesses certainly have the right to”refuse service to anyone”.
Pretty sad that a simple decision to do something that offers so much potential for society has become a political football.
I totally get that some people are nervous or skeptical, that’s human nature, but far too many people are putting
out BS that is simply false and meant to make a divisive political statement at the expense of society as a whole.
The vaccine is saving thousands of lives. Try telling someone that lost a loved one to Covid that you don’t think Covid vaccines are a good idea.
The profound narcissism that has crept into our daily lives is shocking.
Spot on John, and all this is being stoked by the politicians to dive us just so that they can get re-elected. It’s a sad state of affairs.
Well stated John W. We have always made sacrifices for the betterment of all. There is always some morons who choose to whine and bitch.
Great points Kimberly T!
Kimberly with all due respect your knowledge of history is severely lacking. LOL free choice to what? Turn down something that will save your life? Without limitations? Care to elaborate on that.
Yes you should consider locking yourself in your house and never coming out. Vaccines have rarely to never been totally voluntary. The rest of us would like to get back to some semblance of a normal life. You dont fine by us but let the rest of us get back to our normal lives while you hide in your house.
Your coercion is absolutely mind boggling.
Guess what I dont live in fear either! I bet that comes as a big shock to you. Being shamed? Who is shaming you into getting a vaccine? Certainly not me. I might give you a sideways look for not doing so but freedom gives you the right to do what you like but not to challenge said consequences should you become ill.
LMAO shamed by the very government who is simply trying to protect the good of all. Stop whining about your individual rights here. You have every right not to get one. But private business has every right to say guess what no vaccine no travel. SO what will your choice be? LMAO and if you get it you bet I will be the first to say to you see I told you so! I am guessing you have never chosen to be vaccinated because of your freedoms?
Paul C,
Well said! Sadly, you aren’t going to change their mind.
your exactly right JOhnny B I am trying to figure out why so many of them are on this site none seem intent on coming to hawaii but rather just to complain
Thank you, agreed 100%
Wait until the fall out starts. Tourism will be hit hard. No one wants to go there that bad and they will find this out the hard way.
I’m sorry you got suckered into taking an unproven and poisonous mRNA vaccine that may cause you psychical harm, alter your DNA permanently, or kill you down the road all for a vacation?
I guess you don’t value your body but I get it most American’s don’t value real health all they think they need to do is pop a pill or take a shot vs really understanding what they put in their mouths is what makes you healthy. Health doesn’t come from the end of a needle.
This virus has a 99.74% recovery rate.
We need to collectively make healthier choices vs thinking you will be healthy by pills and needles. That is something I will be in it together for.
Hell no on this deadly vaccine!!!
RR. R-U-SERIOUS? The mRNA has nothing to do with DNA. DNA is found in the double helix and determines your particular characteristics (eye color, etc.). The RiboNucleicAcid (RNA)is a natural chemical found in your body and mine. The “m” is a messenger protein that mimics the spike protein on the CV-19 virus, alerting the body to invasion, so that your natural antibodies can dispatch the invader.
While an mRNA vaccine has never been on the market anywhere in the world, mRNA vaccines have been tested in humans before, for at least four infectious diseases: rabies, influenza, cytomegalovirus, and Zika. mRNA technology was discovered in the 1940’s.
Likely, none of this matters to you since you choose to believe what you choose. Perhaps readers open to the truth will glean something from this post.
RR totally agree that a healthy lifestyle offers more protection then an unhealthy one. I like to think I’m
one of the healthy ones….Lot’s of exercise, Mediterranean Diet and low body fat…..big deal.
I could have died had I contracted Covid though unlikely, and pretty much zero now that I’ve had the jab, but more important, it’s not about you and me.
It’s about everyone. The almost off the scale disregard for people less fortunate, genetically, financially, circumstances or whatever is astounding. The lack of concern for being a healthy spreader of Covid to those less fortunate is narcissism on steroids
Adding to your remarkable sense of entitlement is thinking Hawaii is going to miss people with your perspective…..the biggest
problem Hawaii tourism is facing is the pending explosion of demand for a safe and beautiful place exceeding supply..
Auwe!
Again you are spreading talking points not science. Plain and simple. Stop spreading misinformation
Amd you would be wrong. Many will now come to Hawaii while you whine about this and sit at home. Noon e forced you to be vaccinated
RR, thank you, I agree 100%
Fine with us RR. We don’t want tourists that don’t respect rules and have an aggressive, defiant type of attitude. We don’t need your business at all. Go to Mexico or Nicaragua instead! There are plenty of of considerate, respectful tourists we’d rather have who honor rules, respect local customs & and actually stimulate our economy.
No one is forcing anyone. You are free to not get a vaccine, not take a test and then spend 10 days in quarantine to mitigate a real risk to the community because you do not have the right to spread COVID. Even with a vaccine, you have to give permission for the “passport” provider to access your health care data associated with the vaccination. No one is using your medical records, except you. Unless you give that approval, even if you are vaccinated, no one will know unless you choose to make that information available.
Aloha Rob and Jeff!
I’d like to know what Beat of Hawaii’s opinion is on this situation.
I just read an article about at least three Hawaii residents that are fully vaccinated, becoming infected with Covid-19.
Does this concern anyone else?
Does the fact that the vaccine’s efficacy is yet to be determined?
Personally, I think it’s a bit premature to assume that we can get the vaccine, and immediately get up close and expect that the miracle of banishing covid has occurred.
What say you?
Mahalo for everything you do!
Hi Pam.
Thank you. We are not in the medical field but are nonetheless professional researchers. As you said vaccination-based travel won’t mean that COVID is over for multiple reasons including variants, those not getting vaccinated, and more. At the same time, e’re happy to see visitors returning since the economy here in Hawaii is devastated, especially small businesses. Hopefully, some balance will ensue albeit likely that it won’t be all smooth sailing ahead. We will be hearing from the state in the next couple of days at most.
Aloha.
Bless you guys! (And Muley!) And Hau’oli Ka Mōliaola.
Hi Barbara.
Thank!. Best to you. We look forward to seeing you soon.
Aloha.
First of all Pam staring with your last sentence. NOT one scientist is saying ok you got the vaccine you can throw out all of the safety protocols such as wearing a mask, social distancing etc.
2nd Sure you can read any number of a million articles that will go along with your way of thinking. Guess what NO scientist has said once vaccinated you cannot get the virus. Please do pay attention when health officials speak. NONE have said this. In fact quite the opposite.
No it doesnt concern me because I pay attention. Yes you can still contract the virus potentially after being vaccinated. However unlike if you were un vaccinated and you get the virus your chances of being hospitalized and severely ill go way down with the vaccine.
There is a lot of research out there if you choose to read it. But I encourage you to REALLY listen to Dr Fauci and our health experts. IF you do they would have kept you for asking these questions. SO NO it does not concern me at bit.
Once again “Personally, I think it’s a bit premature to assume that we can get the vaccine, and immediately get up close and expect that the miracle of banishing covid has occurred.” Not ONE health official has said this.
1) We will never be able to manage COVID down to zero risk and zero cases. The vaccines are showing 90% efficacy in the real world and you can still transmit the virus (at least to some degree) even if you have the vaccine. However, the statistic that really matters is the vaccines effectiveness in preventing severe disease and death. Those numbers are minuscule for vaccinated folks
2) Nearly half of all Hawaiians have at least one vaccine dose and the percentage is much higher for those at high risk and those in the service industry. The combination of the traveler being vaccinated and many locals being vaccinated should limit COVID hospitalizations
3) Recognize that Aloha may not be at its peak in the early days. I think Hawaii is going to be overwhelmed in the short term. Re-adjusting to crowds, traffic, fewer services available as things ramp back up, etc. will be stressful. Please come with a patient and kind attitude.
A nicely balanced comment, thank you!
Ultimately, the fear mongering will not be respected if the outcomes don’t match the mongering.
You should hear my (60-something year old) neighbors on Kauai piss and moan about the expected “hoards” of tourists clogging the roads starting tomorrow, especially with the Hanalei Hill road situation. The afternoon window access lines already go back to Hanalei town in one direction, and past the (permanently closed) PV Eats in the other direction. They have been vaccinated for Covid-19, but not for tourists!
I’ve called the governors office on multiple occasions with their answer stating they are waiting for the CDC’s recommendations. Now that the CSC has made it official, vaccinated people should be allowed to bypass quarantine or any kind of pre/post test. Why is it, I feel the State still won’t accept this? Probably because although I was vaccinated when I returned home to Hawaii, had a negative covid test the day before I landed and a negative test 4 days after my arrival home, I still had the National Guard check on me 6 times? Go figure.
You must be pretty suspicious looking lmao. I’ve had a number of friends there not checked on once