This would apply to all passengers whether visitors or residents, fully vaccinated or not.
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Instead of asking vaccinated tourists who are not clogging up hospitals with COVID infections; has Ige considered mandating vaccines for Hawaiian residents?
The root cause of the strain on Hawaii hospitals is unvaccinated locals. The tourists are not preventing locals to get vaccinated.
Hello,
This report is dated the 19th, is there an updated report on whether
the COVID testing requirements have been reinstated even for Vaccinated
individuals.
Thank you
Dear BOH readers, I have a general question for everyone. Who has used AFC urgent care for their test & how fast did you get the results back? I look forward to hearing the responses. Malaho & stay safe everyone! God bless you…..psalms 91:11 😍😇🌈
Any update if vaccinated people will need a negative Covid test? If not, does anyone have any idea when an update might be made? Thank you in advance.
Hi Kathleen.
There is no further update at this time.
Aloha.
Please BOH, let readers comment about the Hawaii travel experience without canceling different views. Just happened 90 sec. ago. Kirk
Dear BOH Bros, Waiting to come to the Beautiful Hawaiian Island of Oahu is another way that I can stay safe while keeping other people safe as well. We all should be doing things to keep others safe because everyone is in this virus situation together. I’ve been waiting all my life to go to Hawaii so what is alittle more time?! God bless you!! 😍😇
Seems to me to be a waste of money and resources to test the vaccinated. Test the unvaccinated, they are the ones who created this new mess in the first place.
Not true! I have 6 family members who have been vaccinated and now are sick and have tested positive for COVID-19.
When I was in Kauai in July, the positive cases in the entire state just hit triple digits. Guess what? As of July 8th, vaccinated travelers no longer needed to pretest before flying. Now look at the numbers. They are over 600+ per day. Get your head out of the sand and wake up! This is not a problem with just unvaccinated people. I think the vaccine has been eating up you brain cells!
Exactly! Propaganda is trying to make it look like the unvaccinated are the ones testing positive and the ones in the hospital which I find hard to believe! I had to test negative before flying to hawaii, and the vaccinated who sat on the plane right next to me did not have to test, so there way no way to know if they had covid?! I only hear of vaccinated people catching covid these days. The vaccinated people are not testing and traveling all over. I believe it is the vaccinated who are ending up in the hospital based on the stories I keep hearing if vaccinated in the hospital. This is just getting ridiculous already. 80% of people who are hospitalized with covid are obese, how about we test for obesity instead? This should really be called an obesity pandemic.
Curious where you’re getting your information on so many vaccinated people getting covid and being hospitalized, as that’s not true. Yes, vaccinated people are getting the virus, but most in the hospitals for it are indeed the unvaccinated. On Aug 19th, only 37 of the 355 hospitalized in Hawaii were vaccinated, and that included both partial and fully vaccinated. That information came from our Lt. Governor if you want to find out yourself too confirm.
Could not agree with you more. The vaccines are showing so many problems and the information is being canceled. The longevity, the spreading post jab, etc. So sad to never see the whole truth in #’s. Kirk
Alas, so many people can only see binary, black and white. Where the world is full of gray. Covid Vaccination does not guarantee against re-infection. No vaccinations are 100% effective, It does however reduce the risk dramatically. Similarly there will be people who et very sick get hospitalized or even die after vaccination but the risk is greatly reduced and statistically loaded to those with pre existing health conditions.
So, vaccination will not guarantee no reinfection, neither will mask wearing in public, nor will social distancing nor will increasing personal cleaning routine or avoiding unnecessary exposure to packed indoor venues with limited ventilation. However if you are vaccinated and you follow the guidelines, your risk is minimal.
Saying I am not going to be vaccinated because it does not infection is like saying I am not going to travel or drive by car as there is a risk of crashes, except the risk with vaccines is lower.
It makes good sense to bring back pre flight testing and also to close indoor bars. The pre test weeds out a number and makes people think twice about risking flying whiskey infected and closing bars reduces transmission as anyone who has been to a Hawaii hostelry will no as people’s common sense evaporates with alcohol. Bar Owners should be allowed to offer open air drinking to reduce the risk, where it is possible.
Just getting a big concerned. We have a house in Waimea, but have been staying on the mainland for over a year. If things get so far as quarantine again (even after testing and vaccine done), how would we get from KOA to our house in Waimea? We can’t impose on neighbors…. Thanks.
Hi Ben.
We’ll have to see what happens. We do believe a next step would be as the mayor requested – testing for all arrivals, nothing more.
Aloha.
Aloha!
Well, we continue to do silly stuff here and need to apply some logic and common sense.
1. Testing 72 hrs DOES NOT mean you still can’t have someone board next to you that is positive.
2. The spread in the island has been LOCALS who’ve traveled to the mainland and back. See #1 again
3. Visitors/Tourists and alike HAVE NOT BEEN the catalyst for this spread and can no longer be the target of everyone’s frustration and ire.
The real solution here is that Airlines should quit gambling on unknowns and invest in knowns. If every operator that came to Hawaii simply bought a bunch of Rapid test units, IN THE AIRPORT and screened everyone before boarding, we could not only be safe flying in, but more than likely lift some protocols while in flight.
Leave healthy, fly healthy, arrive healthy. One isolated tube to an isolated island.
What is so complicated?
Mahalo
Hi Manu.
As we understand, the airlines have no ability to regulate passengers in that way. It would only be the federal government that could do that.
Aloha.
And the govt. is doing so well with this situation. Hmmm, Aloha
I think bringing back testing for everyone is exactly what needs to happen. It was working before..right?? Have you not read the headlines that 3 US senators tested positive for Covid and they have been vaccinated? Does it occur to anyone that maybe the vaccine is not as effective as they thought?? After all..they dont know too much about the vaccine. It’s more of a trial and error type situation that is clearly showing error. Test everyone and see if cases drop on the islands. It only got bad once they changed the testing requirements.
Vaccine does not prevent transmission. Vaccine lowers risk of serious complication. Vaccines save the hospital system.
Tests will identify people who are sick and spreading covid. But tests with 72 hour turnaround time…are not going to prevent covid spread as much as instant tests taken prior to boarding the airplane
I agree!!
Why not just require all travelers to Hawaii be vaccinated?
Why not? Because there are some people who do not want to get vaccinated because we take care of our bodies are not obese had covid and did not take up a hospital bed ever. We have antibodies. And because some people traveling to hawaii are not going on vacation, but rather to visit dear family!
Well, as much as I dislike the hassle of the 72 hour testing before flying to my home on the Big Island. Here I am, vaccinated and pretty doggone sick with Covid! Someone that works in the same office as my husband who is not vaccinated gave it to the entire office, including my husband, who is vaccinated and he brought it home to me. Good thing we are vaccinated, because we both got pretty sick! So, as much as I don’t like testing to fly, I think it is time to bring it back. The Delta variant can make even healthy vaccinated people pretty sick, so I am sure that vaccinated people are also able to be spreaders of this nasty disease.
Thank you for pointing out that the vaccinated can still contract covid (and therefore spread it). And still get fairly sick from it!
My issue with testing is this. I test 72 hours before my flight, comes back negative. In the meantime I come in contact with someone that’s covid positive. But I am unaware they are positive. I get to Hawaii and get sick in a few days. What good was the test!!! All of my family (6) have been vaccinated and wearing masks when needed. Looking more like a cash cow for the ” approved” testing partners in Hawaii. My doctor said their tests are the same as Walgreens, but his is not approved by Hawaii. Question of the day. Whats the difference, could the approved “partners” be paying a fee to Hawaii to be on the approved list????
I’m not sure why they’d go back to testing for all, when just limiting travelers to vaccinated only non-residents would be more effective and less cumbersome for travelers? The testing is inherently flawed in that it doesn’t guarantee the person doesn’t contract COVID after the test (or in the unknown period before that it’s undetectable). While vaccinated travelers have some potential to contract the Delta variant, it’s still far less likely. Vaccinated persons who contract Delta variant COVID are yet again, far less likely to need any medical care, extending very little risk to the hospital system. At the other end, unvaccinated persons are more likely to get the virus and far more likely to need medical attention. And with COVID already very present in Hawaii, allowing unvaccinated people in will only serve to increase the likelihood of spread.
Neither my husband not I were vaccinated when visiting Kauai in July. A week after arriving back home we became symptomatic and began our prescribed treatment of HCQ, Z-PAK, Quercetin and Zinc after testing positive for COVID-19. We felt crummy but recovered at home within 2 weeks. Adam, we did not need to bog down the medical system. Vaccination is a personal choice and no one else’s business! You worry about yourself.
What they claim and what is actually happening may just be two different things. 80% of people hospitalized with covid are OBESE. How about they do an obesity test for travelers? And not penalize the healthy unvaccinated travelers who will not take up a hospital bed. There are healthy people that are unvaccinated who have natural immunity and antibodies. The unvaccinated should not be punished as a result of this obesity pandemic. You say it is far less likely for the vaccinated to contract covid, but how come I keep hearing of vaccinated people who get covid????
Thanks
Thank you for this update. If this requirement is reinstated, would it be immediate or would they pick a date? Because my husband and I are traveling to Hawaii in a little over a week, we are fully vaccinated, and we wouldn’t want to already be on our way to Hawaii when this suddenly changes. We would want time to set an appointment for the testing within 72 hours of leaving.
Hi Annie.
Our sense is there will be enough notice for those with trips planned to be able to get tested. That only makes sense.
Aloha.
I agree with the reinstatement of pre-travel testing requirements. At the very top of the list of people required to show proof of a negative test should be residents returning from the mainland. It must be fair to all travelers, and locals subject to quarantine should be required to be supervised. Anybody that thinks someone who lives here is going to follow the quarantine rules when they get back, well, I’ve got a lovely bridge in Haleiwa to sell you. As a local I’ve noticed the perception on the ground that it is tourists that are bringing Covid here. There’s been reporting that it is mostly residents. Whichever is true, the way to stop the argument is to test everyone, vaccinated and unvaccinated, Hawaii residents and tourists.
We can deal with whether it will make any difference in a different thread.