You’re worried about Marriott Kauai and we hear you. What this means for hotel guests and timeshare owners?
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You’re worried about Marriott Kauai and we hear you. What this means for hotel guests and timeshare owners?
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Perfect example of why you should never buy any “real estate” if you don’t own the dirt.
If you can’t really afford to own at the beach–just rent.
Thank you for this information
I think I posted these emails on the wrong thread but apologies if they are a repeat…
From the Marriott Kauai Beach Club Owner Relations Manager…
Aloha Barbara,
Ownership is changing in March for Marriott International Hotel Portion however there is not discussion of closing. The Kauai Beach Club will not be changing ownership.
I understand they are working on a letter to communicate this to Owners.
From the Senior Vice President – Global Services (MVCI)…
Hi Barbara, and Happy Holidays,
There have been lots of meetings taking place, and when complete, a communication with details will be sent to Kauai Beach Club Owners regarding any transition plans for the hotel portion of the resort.
Looking forward to great things in 2021. Stay well,
Thank YOU Barbara for helping share the info in this uncertain times. Aloha to you and your family.
To Karen E.
First of all, there’s no need to call a lawyer. That will just be an expensive nothing.
You can just stop paying. You would lose everything you’ve paid into this thus far, but at least the financial bleeding would stop. You would also face a number of collection calls and letters but those can be ignored. You might face a ding on your credit history and rating but, unless you are planning a big loan in the near future (usually 7 years), that ding should not affect you much.
And again, this cannot be overemphasized, do not go contacting any attorney, law firm, charity, or other company that claims it can “cancel” your timeshare and mortgage.
KAREN E…
Please read the post I just posted with comments from the Marriott Kauai Beach Club Owner Relations Manager and from the Senior Vice President – Global Services (MVCI). That should alleviate some of your concern.
There seems to be much confusion about the Marriott issue on Kauai.
First, this was a default on payment by Marriott Hotels for whatever their management of the Kauai Marriott Resort involved. It has nothing to do with any other Marriott properties except a bunch of Courtyards and/or Residence Inns and the Nashville Marriott. So no other Marriott properties in Hawaii are affected.
Second, the issue at hand is the transfer of ownership of the Kauai Marriott Resort Hotel. If you inquire to Marriott about your timeshare, correct, they will know nothing as Marriott Vacations Worldwide (MVW) is a totally separate company that operates as Marriott Vacation Club International (MVCI).
Third, I love that non-owners are suggesting that the owners file a Class Action Lawsuit. We owners don’t even know yet how this will impact us – if at all. It is the Hotel rooms and the Public Areas that will be affected. Ownerships in the Marriott Kauai Beach Club (aka “the KBC) units are fee simple outright ownerships, not 99 years leases as many Hawaii timeshare ownerships are. MVCI is going to have to deal with the owners but you have to know that, although the outcome might not be exactly to our liking, MVCI’s reputation worldwide is on the line in how they treat us. That may end up being a naive assumption but until we actually hear something, we have nothing but hope to go on. The timeshare units were all redone in 2019/2020 and it is encouraging to hear that Sonesta will be renovating the hotel rooms and all the public spaces/pools which will now be owned by Sonesta. (The Chinese corporation who owned the property during the last renovation took away most if not all of the Hawaiian ambiance in lieu of creating “Zen”!)
Timeshare owners might communicate using tug2.net site (timeshare user group). In the past it has had active forums regarding various resorts and their financial or ownership issues.
Redweek.com is another website where some owners might be found in the forums.
KATHIE L…
The Kauai Beach Club owners will soon be receiving information from Corporate MVCI. If you see my most recent post – the hotel is changing ownership, the timeshare ownership is remaining with Marriott. Nothing is planned to be closed.
That property has had such a rich history. Over the last several years it has gone downhill. IMO, they are just trying to make money off the property and nothing more and it’s hurting everyone. I guess it’s time for the timeshare owners to find a lawyer.
Mahalo Guys always enjoy reading work.
Hi Roy.
Thanks. This one is going to be interesting.
Aloha.
ROY H…
Sorry but I don’t agree with you about the property having gone downhill. When was the last time you visited? Not very much, if anything, has changed since the last major renovation (which we don’t care for but that has nothing to do with “downhill”). As of our last three week visit January 2020, everything was in fine order and the timeshare units had been updated/upgraded yet again. As making money off the property, the whole issue is a default on a loan payment so I’m not sure whose making money?
It is a shame what the Governor has done to the islands. He does not understand business or basic economics and the 1%-2% death rate of COVID is not worth destroying the tourism industry. So glad we are in Texas away from the liberal screwballs
You’re so glad you’re in Red state Texas, where your Covid death rate is out of control and surging, your state participated in unpatriotic voting suppression, and your indicted Attorney General is actively committing sedition, in order to get a pardon. 😂
Unpatriotic voter suppression? Sounds like an unfounded conspiracy theory(Russia collusion anyone)). Actually I’m in Texas right now and the economy is doing pretty darn good. Everybody seems to be using common sense regarding the virus. My home state of California is in lockdown and not doing so good. My rural county has had 30 drug overdose deaths this year. Unfortunately, that doesn’t get any headlines.
Ten million in the County of Los Angeles. What’s the population in your rural county? Rural is the operative word. Can’t compare apples to Brussels sprouts.
Why can’t people do basic math? Divide the # of deaths by the number of Covid cases. There is less than 1% difference in death rate between Hawaii and Texas, and Hawaii and Florida, however, Hawaii will be suffering long term economic consequences because of the lost revenue and the highest unemployment rate in the country per capita. We are in a pandemic and sadly people are going to die. Having lived in Hawaii for over 30 years I know how terribly mismanaged this state is. Seeing all of the businesses that will be closed forever is heartbreaking and the ramifications of our Mayors decision will be a lot more detrimental than the disease itself. Should be really interesting 6 months from now!
Understand your comment. Where I live, we have a Republican Governor and he’s destroyed a lot of businesses. The screwballs are from both parties.
You are spot on, sir!!
Well, just let me reply to that Mr. Texas. I live in Texas. My mother just died from Covid in November – in Texas. I’m so damn tired of people like you throwing the 1-2 % death rate like it’s nothing. My mother is not 1 or 2 percent dead. She’s 100% dead, and it was probably a morally unconscious person that gave it to her! Texas is doing an awful job with Covid – really awful. And if you’re proud of our results (record setting illnesses and deaths), you have a screw loose. So, why don’t you drop the self righteous tone?
Thanks BOH for allowing me to respond. BTW my family was one of the first settler in Texas – part of “Austin’s old 300”.
Hi Brenda.
THanks for all your comments.
Aloha.
You assuming a ‘morally unconscious ‘ …is self righteous too.
Brenda. My sincere condolences – we have lost two immediate family members just in the past 12 months, though no to COVID. I have a friend and his wife who are still sick with COVID, and it has been almost two months, he is finally (Christmas Day) feeling some positive signs. He is certain he caught it at work where he usually works alone, but it is when his yahoo coworkers come into the office, they rarely mask up and maintain safe distance.
Sometimes, I think we as as a nation would be better off just having the govt implement a heavy hand to ensure everyone follows safety protocol as we are at war against this nasty, deadly disease and some people just need the parent-in-the-room to ensure rules are followed, for everyone’s sake. But, our officials are generally spineless, selfish, ignorant,l ow-IQ people who have another agendas that do not serve the public well. That is why we are where we are. Full lockdown where everyone follows protocols would effecitvely wipe out COVID in about one month – like where is the virus going if there is not transmission to another poor host??? A very simple solution, that we as a people did not take, so we in some ways deserve where we are today. This absolutely angries me – and everytime I see a Covidiot acting reckless, I just shake my head and wish him the worse. This is God’s will, it must be to make us pause, the people of this great nation, to see we are actually very weak, a people who has gotten complacent and stupid, a people who has lost compassion and courtesy for others. Maybe before we prosper, we must feel that pain.
Exactly. Mandatory masks with substantial fines for not following the rules and a total lockdown…no one in or out. It will be temporarily painful but we’ll get through it.
I am sorry for your loss.
Sounds like the owners should get together and file a class action lawsuit against the parent company; otherwise, just accept the fact that corporations are going to get away with screwing people, again and again and again.
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