124 thoughts on “Will New Vaccination Passport Mandate Work and Become The Standard?”

  1. Aloha BOH Bro’s

    Delta is infecting mostly unvaccinated under 40’s who are of the understanding if infected it won’t kill them, they will avoid any vaccination side affects and gain immunity.

    I do business with these people they aren’t the sharpest tools in the draw. They’re more concerned with a perfect selfie and getting likes.

    They get most of the information from Facebook and instagram influencers.

    Last weekend I spent 3 days at a county fair huge crowds of under 40’s mostly in their 20’s partied like rockstars. My guess 80 to 90 percent weren’t vaccinated.

    At this point I believe a vaccine passport isn’t targeting the main source of spread on Oahu. Young people will circumvent the passport continue with raves and house parties.

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  2. Could be wrong but I thought federal law guaranteed unencumbered passage between states. Not saying the Vax passport isn’t a good effort to fight covid, but I do wonder if it’s legal.

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    1. It’s legal if they don’t impede travel. This mandate is about restaurants and gatherings on Oahu only, not interstate travel.

  3. For the unvaccinated there are other options for meals if you are staying in Waikiki. For breakfast try using the microwave in your hotel room for oatmeal and if no microwave the coffee devices can also be used to make oatmeal, for lunch the abc stores do have sandwiches and for dinner there are sone nice food carts and of course Burger King and McDonald’s or breakdown and get vaccinated.

  4. Something is seriously amiss if proof of natural immunity due to previous infection is not accepted. ALL of the evidence now is that natural immunity provides much better protection even than vaccines. If natural immunity is not recognized, then this is not science, it’s authoritarians grasping at straws.

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    1. Another disinformation alert!

      The Uk Coronavirus Immunology Consortium (UK-CIC) and the British Society for Immunology reported that they looked at what parts of the immune system are involved in generating a protective response against SARS-CoV-2, as well as after vaccination. It’s likely that for most people vaccination against COVID-19 will induce more effective and longer lasting immunity than that induced by natural infection with the virus. Even if you’ve had COVID-19, you’re recommended to get the vaccine because it will boost whatever immunity you have from natural infection.

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      1. Yup, here’s a really good article that explain all this better than I ever could. npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/30/1032520934/immunity-to-covid-19-could-last-longer-than-youd-think

        BTW, getting natural immunity via COVID parties is like playing Russian roulette with a couple of rounds in the gun.

  5. I think that this is a great idea, and I hope they will implement it statewide. I just returned from Hawaii, and I saw a lot of people not wearing masks, not social distancing, etc. BTW, that was mostly Tourists that I saw. I think that what’s happening is that COVID is spreading on the islands, and something has to be done to stop it before the hospitals and morgues are completely overwhelmed like they are in some of the low vax states like Florida. I haven’t seen the complete list yet, but I think that the vaccine passport should cover, quite simply, anywhere that more than a few people gather. So besides bars, restaurants, gyms, etc., it should include grocery stores, drug stores, Any retail establishment that serves the public, and any workplace as well.

  6. You can recover from a bad business year or downturn in revenue, in fact many business’s are reinventing themselves to be better then they ever were and are well positioned for the future……you cannot recover from dying and the people that lose a loved one to Covid suffer a lot more then someone having a difficult business year….I for one for one am happy to see the people that are Covid or Vaccine deniers boycott Hawaii and the thoughtful less fingerpointing people support Hawaii.
    Time will heal all though and the more people that get vaccinated the sooner that will happen.

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  7. A recent study out of Israel indicated that those who have had COVID and recovered, but did not get vaccinated, actually have a “stronger and longer lasting” immunity than those who have been fully vaccinated. And the mRNA vaccines lose 50% of their efficacy after 4-6 months. Based on this latest study, and confirming studies conducted by other agencies, it makes little sense to allow only those vaccinated a free pass. Also, Dr. Fauci recently said that tests on infected vaccinated (breakthrough cases) and unvaccinated individuals revealed an equal amount of virus in both sets. In other words, those vaccinated can carry and transmit the virus just as easily as those unvaccinated. Consequently, it makes sense to forget the inane vaccine passports entirely and just stick with antigen and molecular testing.

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    1. Actually they are discovering that the vaccine provides very long term protection against severe illness. npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/30/1032520934/immunity-to-covid-19-could-last-longer-than-youd-think

        1. They quote their sources, which is more than some guy with a YouTube video from his basement typically does. Read the article, then look at the studies themselves instead of just rejecting it all out of hand.

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    2. Your post would be a bit more accurate if you completed the results from the study:

      “However, vaccines can add an extra boost to protection in people who recovered from COVID-19. Results showed that a single vaccine dose with natural immunity provided greater protection against reinfection than people with natural immunity alone.”

      Other studies by the NIH, The British Society of Immunology and others concluded the following:

      “It’s likely that for most people vaccination against COVID-19 will induce more effective and longer lasting immunity than that induced by natural infection with the virus. Even if you’ve had COVID-19, you’re recommended to get the vaccine because it will boost whatever immunity you have from natural infection.”

      Please beware of posts where sources are not cited or study results are edited.

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  8. Hawaii is Bankrupt, their Unemployment Compensation is more the $500,000,000.00 upside down, hence Ige and other Governors (NY, NJ, Ct., Pa., Ill., Ca., NM) standing in line, any Common Denominators? “48 Hours”, so every other day, one goes for a Test so they can spend $ in Hawaii! We’ve postponed from February ’20, September ’20, May ’21 to now February ’22, we still have time for Sanity to take hold, but what will be left, we will see and decide at Christmas. The Moana has been our home away from home in Oahu since 1988 (36 Stays), with maybe the Hyatt another 8 times and Marriott 6, so we’ve done it, Hawaii is a special place, but not the only place. Hawaii needs to put something in their Infrastructure if they can’t support Hospital’s, Dr.’s and what of Nurses, and the 1,200 First Responders in Fire and Police suing Governor Ige.

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