68 thoughts on “Hawaii Tourism’s Deep Divide: Opposing Perspectives”
Mark
We had planned a trip to the islands next year for a month, but after watching the documentary “Maui rising” And other information on the Internet, we feel that we as tourists are not welcome on the islands anymore. We have read a lot of information about the problems native Hawaiians are experiencing due to displacement caused by short term rentals. We understand other issues concerning natives, such as disparity in water allocation disparity in housing, the entitled attitude by some tourists. It truly breaks our heart that we have now decided not to visit the Hawaiian islands, we do not think it’s prudent to go someplace where we are not welcomed
Respectfully, I’d really like to know what the “ideal” Hawaii looks like to those who live there. If you could make Hawaii anything you wanted, what would it be? Tourists don’t vote in your elections. What do you want your elected officials to do? What would you and your community create? Go ahead and imagine, then go make your dream happen. What do you want tourists to know about Hawaiian culture? What thoughts do you want us to consider? Are we tourists even capable of understanding? Sometimes the actions of locals towards me lead me to conclude you don’t think we are. Let us know what it is you really want, because we can’t guess. I love visiting Maui and look forward to more visits. Aloha.
When someone tells you who they are and what they think, believe them. I can tell that you are riding a line regarding being drawn to the natural beauty of the islands and the horrific treatment tourists receive. Especially white mainlanders. I understand the draw, but, at what point do you start getting the message?
For the most part Hawaiiians stay clear of where the tourists are. I am very sorry for any bad experiences you may have encountered but have never seen this or heard it from the visitors I converse with daily. My work is talking with visitors for the past 30 years. Perhaps in areas that are Kapu or if a visitor has done or said something viewed as disrespectful. Some locals but not the majority are resentful. Some not even Hawaiian. They blame the high costs on tourism. Yet, almost all of us are dependent on tourism in one way or another. We welcome tourists and do our best to assist in them having a memorable time so that they will want to return and tell others to come. I agree the politicians should watch what comes out of their mouths.
Sorry Kim but I have never had an issue until my visit to Maui in Feb 2024 but I had several issues then. If asking where an item is located in a store to an employee could be considered disrespectful then I am sorry. I had three distinct occasions in 2 grocery stores and a clothing store where I asked an employee where I might find something and was either totally ignored or rudely told over there. One simply ignored me so I politely asked again and he turned and looked at me with apparent disgust and then turned away. All three definitely appeared to be Native Hawaiins. I had one other issue with a non employee where a woman refused to allow me or another person to get past her as she was blocking an aisle unnecessarily.
I am so sorry Bill! I wish you would report to the manager/owner anything like this. If I or the people I know saw this we would step in. This is very sad and hurts all of us. There is no excuse.
John M
Just out of curiosity, are you a white person? I have never felt real racism directed at me anywhere but on a visit to Hawaii.
RodW
I have sometimes felt the same way. It’s as though Some want us to drop our cash at the airport and catch a return flight home.
There is much criticism of large out-of-state corps building high-rise hotels. Well, assuming elected officials could do something about that – only Hawaii residents voted those losers in.
Marc Benioff just just got exposed over the 360+ acres he owns on Maui. he actually went after the reporter who exposed him… what are his intentions? he was not happy about it. then, like Zuckerberg, he made a $150m donation to local organizations to buy them off. it’s just another indication that the billionaires are working to make Hawaii the play ground of the wealthy and only the wealthy. Us lowly mortals need not visit. And the locals become slaves to the billionaires.
Tourism ownership and regulation should belong to Indigenous Hawaiians; as well as self-governance. A system of payback / Landback of extremely wealthy individuals to indigenous Hawaiians should be instituted. Balance must be restored.
Indigenous Native Americans were enslaved and had their lands taken away as far back as 1636 in N. America. Later on their children were taken and put into “residential schools” to be taught English; thousands died. Hawaiians aren’t the only ones conquered like this. We can’t go back, only forward and try to learn from the mistakes of the past so that the future is better.
I saw some very interesting statistics today published by the US Census Bureau in 2021. Here is an excerpt:
What are the employment statistics in Hawaii?
White-collar workers make up 81.6% of the working population in Hawaii, while blue-collar employees account for 18.4%. There are also 75,693 entrepreneurs in Hawaii (11.13% of the workforce); 406,389 workers employed in private companies (59.74%); and 141,942 people working in governmental institutions (20.86%).
Y-o-Y Change
White Collar 555,144 1.0%
Blue Collar 125,157 0.4%
White Collar 81.6%
So my question is: If most jobs in Hawaii are tourist-related, and tourism is notorious for low-paying jobs, where are all of these white-collar residents working??
Thank you so much for this Pat. We are the ones that have lost our jobs and business or about to lose our businesses because they are dependent on tourism. We are also the ones that could not survive on welfare or unemployment because our mortgages and cost of living exceeds what those institutions paid. We are the ones that may be forced to sell our homes and leave the island. We are the ones that understand the necessity of tourism and that we must now stand up for Our rights. We are or have exhausted our assets hoping this will get straightened out so that we can rebuild and survive. Our tax money,, job opportunities brought to the island have basically contributed to the economy much more than the Hawaiian Nation realizes.
The Great Mahele 1848 of Kamehameha III. For every buyer there is a seller, and for every seller, a buyer. What’s done is done.
A guide to the future is to look at how people behaved in the past.
Solution? Study the Russian Revolution. Vested interests never willingly give up their power and control.
Honolulu is the seat of government. Most of these jobs are government, state and local, law firms, insurance, banks, etc. The day to day jobs a million residents need to survive. That also skews the numbers for the neighbor islands where there aren’t nearly as many white collar jobs.
These are issues that should be addressed by a representative government. These are the sort of things issues for which governments were formed. The State has collected millions on taxes, heavily dominated by contributions from tourism. These should be spent on addressing these issues
It’s debatable whether inequality (I take it you mean income inequality) has increased since the early 1900s. Income inequality is a feature, not a bug, of a free market society. A laborer in 1910 plantation work made $15, plus housing, water, firewood, and basic medical care. Today that would amount to $450 cash ($X30, inflation!), $1800 rent, $20 water, $180 electricity (cooking, lights), $550 medical insurance, or $3000 per month. Minimum wage is now $15/hr X 172 hours = $2580 + $550 medical insurance = $3130/mo., and still have to buy water and electric. So the bottom end was similar. If there are more rich people, or richer ones, proportionately, is inequality worse?
An element of envy lies behind the ‘inequality bad’ meme.
I love this article. Very well written. I am no longer a local, but I have no issue with the extreme wealthy living anywhere. They are not obligated to do anything, but live there. Before moving to Maui in 71. I self-studied throughly the histories mentioned above, and also did a college course. Apparently, there will always be social inequality about the erosion of local culture, land, etc. As long as you put 2 people in one small space for length of period anywhere in the world., there will eventually be conflict. It does become exhausting hearing people make uninformed comments about their own territory.
This is a great introduction to the tension we face with Hawaii tourism. Other historical contributions to the tension include our overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii and our repression of Hawaiian culture, including the language, in the years prior to the growth of tourism. I’ve found that a bit cultural sensitivity and attempts to understand some of the resentment Hawaiians feel go a long way toward easing the tension. I sincerely hope that the challenge of affordable housing can be addressed in a way that allows for responsible tourism.
Unfortunately respect goes both ways. My wife and I shop almost totally at small local stores and restaurants and buy from road stands when in any country and we spend a fair time in Hawaii and mostly Maui. We just returned from Maui and I have never felt so unwelcome. The local Native hawaiians were extremely rude and in many cases just refused to see you or deal with you. This happened in many stores that we have dealt in before with no problem. This does not make one feel sorry for or respectful to them.
I feel the same way. Disrespected by Hawaiian locals as a Canadian tourist spending my 65 cent dollars. They pay Kamaaina rates on most purchases while I pay full pop. We will not be back!
Hi guys. “The disparity between the have and the have nots” allowing the likes of Oprah and Zuckerberg to buy up large parcels of land for their own use. So many housing units could have been built on all those acres that were sold to them. Their “philanthropy” doesn’t begin to add any difference to the ongoing problems that persist over there. Too late now for eminent domain to restructure the land for the use of the local population.
As I recall, most if not all of Winfrey’s land on Maui is upslope on Haleakala is not suitable for large scale housing develop. I can state that with certainty about Zuckerberg’s on Kauai. No way the county was going to attempt some sort of “eminent domain” to buy up ag land for dense housing development. In any event, there is no land shortage over here. And I suspect a majority of people do not want any further in growth on Kauai, aka, NIMBY Island. You can hate rich people all you want, but magical thinking does not solve a problem.
Nice article. Appreciate the balanced view. Wish the fix for these issues was simple.
It is a topic neither simple, universally clear, nor soundbite friendly. Which means in the generation of 200 something character twitter posts, Instagram pictures, and tiktok political statements, it’s easier to inflame your base to act than it is to do the hard work of solving problems and seeking unity.
Thank you for that well nuanced look at Hawaii tourism.
One could possibly extend the problematic growth to the Internet and the explosive proliferation of vacation rentals.
Tourism which had previously been limited by traditional hotel capacity was suddenly rising at an exponential rate with the advent of Internet driven companies like Airbnb and VBRO.
A growing sense of entitlement as evidenced by so many bitter comments demonstrate that those that want to visit will not be easily deterred by anything other than price, which is what we’re now seeing.
The huge hotels and resorts built over the past 20+ years far surpass the VRBOs, etc. The government encouraged the building of those giant, off island, corporate owned properties and promoted tourism. And now the people owning a vacation rental home are being villainized. And, no, I do not own one or know anyone who does.
Those corporations are owned by stockholders. My guess is some of those stockholders are Hawaiian. Also, some of the retirees from those corporations are probably spending their retirement income in Hawaii.
It’s a very integrated country, especially financially.
Agree! The people who should have been looking out for the people of Maui sold their souls to the developers & the hotel industry. So many mega hotels & vacation condo complexes overfilled the island and a added huge number of vehicles on the road. We were in Maui last month and were thanked multiple times for coming. We brought our checkbooks and made many contributions. We’ve been yearly visitors for 39 yrs. Maui no ka oi!!!
We had planned a trip to the islands next year for a month, but after watching the documentary “Maui rising” And other information on the Internet, we feel that we as tourists are not welcome on the islands anymore. We have read a lot of information about the problems native Hawaiians are experiencing due to displacement caused by short term rentals. We understand other issues concerning natives, such as disparity in water allocation disparity in housing, the entitled attitude by some tourists. It truly breaks our heart that we have now decided not to visit the Hawaiian islands, we do not think it’s prudent to go someplace where we are not welcomed
Respectfully, I’d really like to know what the “ideal” Hawaii looks like to those who live there. If you could make Hawaii anything you wanted, what would it be? Tourists don’t vote in your elections. What do you want your elected officials to do? What would you and your community create? Go ahead and imagine, then go make your dream happen. What do you want tourists to know about Hawaiian culture? What thoughts do you want us to consider? Are we tourists even capable of understanding? Sometimes the actions of locals towards me lead me to conclude you don’t think we are. Let us know what it is you really want, because we can’t guess. I love visiting Maui and look forward to more visits. Aloha.
I just read a Census report that indicates Native Hawaiians represent only .2% of the population. Is that .2% entitled to a veto over the majority?
Doubt if that will change much over time.
When someone tells you who they are and what they think, believe them. I can tell that you are riding a line regarding being drawn to the natural beauty of the islands and the horrific treatment tourists receive. Especially white mainlanders. I understand the draw, but, at what point do you start getting the message?
For the most part Hawaiiians stay clear of where the tourists are. I am very sorry for any bad experiences you may have encountered but have never seen this or heard it from the visitors I converse with daily. My work is talking with visitors for the past 30 years. Perhaps in areas that are Kapu or if a visitor has done or said something viewed as disrespectful. Some locals but not the majority are resentful. Some not even Hawaiian. They blame the high costs on tourism. Yet, almost all of us are dependent on tourism in one way or another. We welcome tourists and do our best to assist in them having a memorable time so that they will want to return and tell others to come. I agree the politicians should watch what comes out of their mouths.
Sorry Kim but I have never had an issue until my visit to Maui in Feb 2024 but I had several issues then. If asking where an item is located in a store to an employee could be considered disrespectful then I am sorry. I had three distinct occasions in 2 grocery stores and a clothing store where I asked an employee where I might find something and was either totally ignored or rudely told over there. One simply ignored me so I politely asked again and he turned and looked at me with apparent disgust and then turned away. All three definitely appeared to be Native Hawaiins. I had one other issue with a non employee where a woman refused to allow me or another person to get past her as she was blocking an aisle unnecessarily.
I am so sorry Bill! I wish you would report to the manager/owner anything like this. If I or the people I know saw this we would step in. This is very sad and hurts all of us. There is no excuse.
Just out of curiosity, are you a white person? I have never felt real racism directed at me anywhere but on a visit to Hawaii.
I have sometimes felt the same way. It’s as though Some want us to drop our cash at the airport and catch a return flight home.
There is much criticism of large out-of-state corps building high-rise hotels. Well, assuming elected officials could do something about that – only Hawaii residents voted those losers in.
Marc Benioff just just got exposed over the 360+ acres he owns on Maui. he actually went after the reporter who exposed him… what are his intentions? he was not happy about it. then, like Zuckerberg, he made a $150m donation to local organizations to buy them off. it’s just another indication that the billionaires are working to make Hawaii the play ground of the wealthy and only the wealthy. Us lowly mortals need not visit. And the locals become slaves to the billionaires.
Tourism ownership and regulation should belong to Indigenous Hawaiians; as well as self-governance. A system of payback / Landback of extremely wealthy individuals to indigenous Hawaiians should be instituted. Balance must be restored.
Indigenous Native Americans were enslaved and had their lands taken away as far back as 1636 in N. America. Later on their children were taken and put into “residential schools” to be taught English; thousands died. Hawaiians aren’t the only ones conquered like this. We can’t go back, only forward and try to learn from the mistakes of the past so that the future is better.
I saw some very interesting statistics today published by the US Census Bureau in 2021. Here is an excerpt:
What are the employment statistics in Hawaii?
White-collar workers make up 81.6% of the working population in Hawaii, while blue-collar employees account for 18.4%. There are also 75,693 entrepreneurs in Hawaii (11.13% of the workforce); 406,389 workers employed in private companies (59.74%); and 141,942 people working in governmental institutions (20.86%).
Y-o-Y Change
White Collar 555,144 1.0%
Blue Collar 125,157 0.4%
White Collar 81.6%
So my question is: If most jobs in Hawaii are tourist-related, and tourism is notorious for low-paying jobs, where are all of these white-collar residents working??
Thank you so much for this Pat. We are the ones that have lost our jobs and business or about to lose our businesses because they are dependent on tourism. We are also the ones that could not survive on welfare or unemployment because our mortgages and cost of living exceeds what those institutions paid. We are the ones that may be forced to sell our homes and leave the island. We are the ones that understand the necessity of tourism and that we must now stand up for Our rights. We are or have exhausted our assets hoping this will get straightened out so that we can rebuild and survive. Our tax money,, job opportunities brought to the island have basically contributed to the economy much more than the Hawaiian Nation realizes.
The Great Mahele 1848 of Kamehameha III. For every buyer there is a seller, and for every seller, a buyer. What’s done is done.
A guide to the future is to look at how people behaved in the past.
Solution? Study the Russian Revolution. Vested interests never willingly give up their power and control.
Honolulu is the seat of government. Most of these jobs are government, state and local, law firms, insurance, banks, etc. The day to day jobs a million residents need to survive. That also skews the numbers for the neighbor islands where there aren’t nearly as many white collar jobs.
These are issues that should be addressed by a representative government. These are the sort of things issues for which governments were formed. The State has collected millions on taxes, heavily dominated by contributions from tourism. These should be spent on addressing these issues
It’s debatable whether inequality (I take it you mean income inequality) has increased since the early 1900s. Income inequality is a feature, not a bug, of a free market society. A laborer in 1910 plantation work made $15, plus housing, water, firewood, and basic medical care. Today that would amount to $450 cash ($X30, inflation!), $1800 rent, $20 water, $180 electricity (cooking, lights), $550 medical insurance, or $3000 per month. Minimum wage is now $15/hr X 172 hours = $2580 + $550 medical insurance = $3130/mo., and still have to buy water and electric. So the bottom end was similar. If there are more rich people, or richer ones, proportionately, is inequality worse?
An element of envy lies behind the ‘inequality bad’ meme.
I love this article. Very well written. I am no longer a local, but I have no issue with the extreme wealthy living anywhere. They are not obligated to do anything, but live there. Before moving to Maui in 71. I self-studied throughly the histories mentioned above, and also did a college course. Apparently, there will always be social inequality about the erosion of local culture, land, etc. As long as you put 2 people in one small space for length of period anywhere in the world., there will eventually be conflict. It does become exhausting hearing people make uninformed comments about their own territory.
This is a great introduction to the tension we face with Hawaii tourism. Other historical contributions to the tension include our overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii and our repression of Hawaiian culture, including the language, in the years prior to the growth of tourism. I’ve found that a bit cultural sensitivity and attempts to understand some of the resentment Hawaiians feel go a long way toward easing the tension. I sincerely hope that the challenge of affordable housing can be addressed in a way that allows for responsible tourism.
Unfortunately respect goes both ways. My wife and I shop almost totally at small local stores and restaurants and buy from road stands when in any country and we spend a fair time in Hawaii and mostly Maui. We just returned from Maui and I have never felt so unwelcome. The local Native hawaiians were extremely rude and in many cases just refused to see you or deal with you. This happened in many stores that we have dealt in before with no problem. This does not make one feel sorry for or respectful to them.
I feel the same way. Disrespected by Hawaiian locals as a Canadian tourist spending my 65 cent dollars. They pay Kamaaina rates on most purchases while I pay full pop. We will not be back!
Hi guys. “The disparity between the have and the have nots” allowing the likes of Oprah and Zuckerberg to buy up large parcels of land for their own use. So many housing units could have been built on all those acres that were sold to them. Their “philanthropy” doesn’t begin to add any difference to the ongoing problems that persist over there. Too late now for eminent domain to restructure the land for the use of the local population.
If the local population had wanted those properties they could have purchased them in the decades before Oprah and Zuckerberg ever hear of Hawaii.
Exactly!
Deborah,
As I recall, most if not all of Winfrey’s land on Maui is upslope on Haleakala is not suitable for large scale housing develop. I can state that with certainty about Zuckerberg’s on Kauai. No way the county was going to attempt some sort of “eminent domain” to buy up ag land for dense housing development. In any event, there is no land shortage over here. And I suspect a majority of people do not want any further in growth on Kauai, aka, NIMBY Island. You can hate rich people all you want, but magical thinking does not solve a problem.
I tend to agree and I would go so far as to say that Zuck/others buying up this land helps to preserve Hawaii and prevent overdevelopment.
Nice article. Appreciate the balanced view. Wish the fix for these issues was simple.
It is a topic neither simple, universally clear, nor soundbite friendly. Which means in the generation of 200 something character twitter posts, Instagram pictures, and tiktok political statements, it’s easier to inflame your base to act than it is to do the hard work of solving problems and seeking unity.
Thank you for that well nuanced look at Hawaii tourism.
One could possibly extend the problematic growth to the Internet and the explosive proliferation of vacation rentals.
Tourism which had previously been limited by traditional hotel capacity was suddenly rising at an exponential rate with the advent of Internet driven companies like Airbnb and VBRO.
A growing sense of entitlement as evidenced by so many bitter comments demonstrate that those that want to visit will not be easily deterred by anything other than price, which is what we’re now seeing.
The huge hotels and resorts built over the past 20+ years far surpass the VRBOs, etc. The government encouraged the building of those giant, off island, corporate owned properties and promoted tourism. And now the people owning a vacation rental home are being villainized. And, no, I do not own one or know anyone who does.
“corporate owned properties”
Those corporations are owned by stockholders. My guess is some of those stockholders are Hawaiian. Also, some of the retirees from those corporations are probably spending their retirement income in Hawaii.
It’s a very integrated country, especially financially.
Agree! The people who should have been looking out for the people of Maui sold their souls to the developers & the hotel industry. So many mega hotels & vacation condo complexes overfilled the island and a added huge number of vehicles on the road. We were in Maui last month and were thanked multiple times for coming. We brought our checkbooks and made many contributions. We’ve been yearly visitors for 39 yrs. Maui no ka oi!!!