176 thoughts on “Hawaii Tries Controlling Visitors Who Simply Want Vacations”
Mike V
NO!!! Hawaii is losing its intrigue due to the infighting of local HI government, HTA and the idea of Telling visitors how to “vacation”.
Please leave the HVCB and local Island Chapters alone. Let them continue Promote & help Sell this incredible destination.
If Hawaii as a destination overall continues to price itself out of the market (state entry fees, beach fees, hotel prices & fees are crazy), folks have other options of where to spend their vacation time and Money! ~Mahalo
I read the article 2x to be sure and it says All visitors. So I can assume that means the charge would be imposed on visitors from other countries as well. The comments are confusing they seem to be directed mostly at mainland visitors or maybe it’s just mainland visitors complaining the most? I lived in Waikiki and worked for a local family owned very busy restaurant there for several years during and after 9/11. Tourism then seemed to aim at other countries because mainland visitors were a small % of the millions visiting. As another reader stated other countries have similar fees. Unfortunately the mentality is if your a US citizen you shouldn’t have to pay the fee. get over it or don’t visit. 50$ shouldn’t make or break your vacation
It won’t work. The interstate commerce clause of the Constitution states the Free flow of commerce between states. That includes tourism. I suggest charging all nations but the US $500. You know to cover it.
John W, agreed. However, the State allowed the hotels and timeshares and condos, etc to build all the rooms. They have spent the money and paid the taxes … now what, not receive their return on investment? The State is to blame for all … “if you build it they will come”.
Galapagos Islands charge each visitor U$200 (Two Hundred) to visit their islands. They don’t have any problems filling the limited tourism space. The funds are used to protect and preserve the islands
I would like to know where all the taxes imposed on hotel and rental properties goes. There should be details in the state and county budgets showing how that income is allocated. It’s the highest of any state in the USA and now they want to impose more taxes and fees for visitors.
All of that financial information is public information, so if you are truly interested the information is there for the reading. Hawaii is unique compared to the mainland as they have to import virtually everything. This discussion would be far more productive if those commenting would do some research on these issues. Commenting and assuming the situation is similar to tourist destinations on the mainland is misguided. They are not remotely similar.
If they implement visitor fees, we will stop coming to Hawaii. We have come for 34 years and stay for a month. We will travel to other tropical destinations where they don’t charge visitor fees or tell me where I can go and when.
I live in Hawaii. The government taxes us far more than anywhere else, and they already impose fees and outrageous prices on visitors & residents alike. But they never spend the tax money on improving anything. Our roads are lucky to have pavement and those that do are riddled with potholes, uneven, and narrow. The buildings are all rusted, crumbling, and moldy. They pump the city’s sewage into the ocean. The trees in the parks are all infested with pests that are killing them. And there’s so much more but not enough characters to name it all.
I really have no other comment than to say that visiting Hawai’i is expensive enough without an additional fee for just being from the mainland. It would certainly curbs the desire to visit for a number of would-be visitors with Hawai’i on their bucket list.
Aloha,This doesn’t sound very Aloha to me.
What we really need is to not allow visitors to buy up our land.Our state needs to think of the natives & stop taxing us.The state already makes millions of dollars every month off tourism.I really don’t appericate the new paid parking downtown Kona.This place used to feel like home.I know longer recognize it with all these added fees.Seriously us locals have to pay to park too.$14hr for parking is expensive.Our water isn’t safe to drink either.There’s homeless camps that smell like urine everywhere&the state does not clean them up.So what exactly does the money from tourism go too? At this point locals are treated & taxed just like the tourists are. Both needs to stop. Not very Aloha.
Ivanna – I agree! Let’s do the same for California and the west coast altogether. California also suffers greatly from too many tourists, people moving into the state, high housing costs, homelessness, lack of water, expensive parking, fees and taxes for just about everything. Only those who are born in California should be allowed to buy homes and land, and we shouldn’t have to pay taxes either! If it works for Hawaii, it will work for California. Trouble is, our representatives are living off of our backs and will never agree to it.
Well since its the hoards of tourists that go to Hawaii……….and if the 7.8 million stayed home……..there wouldn’t be a problem. So I don’t quite understand who you think isn’t the problem?
I was responding to the “illegal occupation” comment.
As far as “hoards of tourists”, I do think there needs to be a reasonable resident-to-visitor ratio, to balance the quality of life for both residents and visitors. Here on Maui, the Maui Island plan recommends a ratio of 3-to-1 on any given day. I think currently it is more like 2-to-1.
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Leigh C
You must not know the History of the Hawaiian Islands. It started with the Europeans [Capt Cook] then the Spanish and then the American Missionaries. It was the beginning of the end for Hawaiians autonomy & the dissolving of their culture. Then came the US military, hoteliers & tourists. It’s only been since the 1960’s that Hawaiians have pushed back to reclaim their culture & land, it’s been an uphill battle since. I’m amazed people are balking at a $50 fee when they spend that for 1 night of cocktails. Hawaiians are pushing against huge monied interests & tourists who seem to think their interests are more important than that of the Indigenous people & residents.
KALa – I’m interested in knowing where you think Hawaii would be today if the U.S. had not protected the islands from Japan? Would you be happier if you were under their rule? I just don’t understand why you resent the U.S. so greatly. Is it because you want to be self-ruling? How do you propose to protect yourself from those who would occupy your beautiful islands? Also, no one in the present day has said that you shouldn’t maintain your native culture; so instead of griping about being part of the U.S.A., why not choose to be happy and focus on restoring your culture and sharing it? You can’t change the past, but you can make the future bright. I wish you much aloha and success.
I dont think the reference was to Japan. It was to the illegal overthrow of Hawaii’s government by the combined forces of the US and sugar planters who deposed the rightful queen of the Kingdom Of Hawaii, with whom the US had a treaty,and illegally annexed the islands. Something the US Government has literally apologized for thru the US Congress but to what end? We are now called a state…but in many respects we are not treated as one, very similar to the treatment of the District of Columbia. We are vassals of the US Authority. Have we benefited…depends on your perspective. Maybe we would have benefited more from retaining our independence. Noone knows but most educated have an opinion.
Your comment is very colonial centric. The US used Hawaii as a strategic buffer to protect the mainland, their first thought wasn’t to protect the Hawaiians. The Hawaiian islands have only so much space before you hit ocean. There are 1, 447,154 residents of Hawaii.They get 7.8 M tourists annually. And lastly Hawaiians were kept from practicing & honoring their culture until 1970. So maybe we all ought to be more sensitive to their needs rather than our own .
There’s 2 types of tourists, those that get offended by this and those that understand it. Would you feel better if it were renamed as another accommodation tax? Management is only becoming a thing because it has gone unmanaged and uncontrolled for decades. Tourists and some companies benefited, while locals paid the price.
I disagree, there are those two that see how much the taxes have gone up and nothing has been done and those that do not. I’ve going to Maui since 2008 and in that time nothing has changed despite all the taxes are collected from me every time I go there, the roads don’t get paid, the parking lots are not refinished, there’s no affordable housing, housing, the problem is it’s I like the same corrupt legislators every time and it goes to somebody’s pockets.
Understood. I’m all for finding the right balance between tourists and the infrastructure and environment to support them, as well as support the way of life of residents. After all, if Hawaii gets too overrun, it will lose some of its beauty, which is what the visitors and residents alike want to experience and preserve.
Finding the right balance, though, is going to be painful, I think. For visitors, but especially for locals. Sometimes, things seem to need to oscillate too far in both directions before middle ground is found and balance can be achieved.
Right now we are oscillating so far in the direction of extra fees, taxes, rules, attitudes, hotel and meal prices, etc. that it is starting to hurt the local economy.
Is it hurting the local economy? Where? How? The industry & this site want to blame softness in projected bookings on the few new fees imposed even though any thoughtful person knows the awareness of these fees is very low. So, the impact is thus limited also. More likely, the softness reflects more tangible, quantifiable drivers like 1) economic influences say inflation, lost jobs, uncertainty, 2) the industry seeing recent growth as an opportunity to rape visitors again with high hotel costs, resort fees, rental car fees, costs to eat out, 3) increased cost of flights, 4) continued concerns in Japan over Covid, 5) concerns throughout Asia and Europe over potential war, 6) increased COL in US. All impact the industry.
Who are you arguing with? I believe I mentioned many of the reasons you listed.
I don’t think #1 and #5 are issues currently. Tourist counts are actually up throughout the world as a whole compared to 2019, the last “normal” year. And many of them seem to be going to Europe this year.
Pretty sure that the high car and hotel rates, along with all the new taxes and fees being imposed both by the resorts and by the government, plus the hostile attitude of late towards visitors, are the main drivers keeping visitors away currently. And as I’ve said in previous posts, the government actions in particular have been designed intentionally to stop visitors from coming. They have stated directly and in public that this is the intention.
This isn’t just an issue in Hawaii but a problem world wide. Hawaii has never been a cheap destination. If people want cheap they go to Mexico, Costa Rica or take a cruise. This displacement is happening worldwide. Portugal, Mallorca, Minorca & Ibiza are some examples of places where outsiders come buy up cheap real estate & come for the lower cost of living. By doing that they have pushed out the native population and driven up costs so that the people who grew up there no longer can afford to live there. It’s time to repair what’s been done to these communities, they deserve respect, to reclaim ownership and feel at peace as much as all those tourists feel in their home communities.
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PatG
Not going to happen, though. No $$ in it. Humans are incentivized beings, unfortunately.
I agree that balance is the ultimate goal. But there has to be something in it for the powers that be in order for them to promote and execute the change.
Not an impossible proposition. Subsidizing developers to build more affordable housing would be a good start. I wouldn’t mind my tax money going towards supporting that.
Evelyn A
Sounds intimidating. The fees might be a great idea, but seriously, start with $25, so it doesn’t look like just a money grab and be responsible in use if the money.
A fee for a US citizen to visit another state ? LOL. I’m sure that would be unconstitutional! What’s wrong with progress and gentrification? Native Hawaiian have no more rights than any other citizen of the USA.
You are very presumptuous to assume that Paul and everyone else isn’t aware of the history of Hawaii. Hawaii “was stolen”. All places are “stolen” when they are settled. The mainland was “stolen” from the Indians, Australia was “stolen” from the Aborigines, etc. Those facts are neither here nor there. No one who committed the heinous crime of settling in these areas is still alive.
The best thing to do if you are upset about your circumstances is to stop blaming others for something they had Nothing to do with, move forward, and carve out a better life for yourself, either in Hawaii or somewhere else.
Uh, wake up man. It was not “settled”. It was stolen at gunpoint despite the long existence of a treaty between the US and the Kingdom of Hawaii. It was just like the way we (the US) and the Native Americans..we want it we take it….the fact that noone who executed this is alive is hardly relevant. Hitler is dead too. So is the Japanese Emperor, Stalin, Lenin and Mao. So, we should ignore all the stuff they did too…my ancestors who were killed at Auschwitz be damned….
“Those facts” have legacies that live in the here and now, in the people and aina. Educate yourself on privilege, as it is handed down from generations that initially stole the land, decimated Hawaiians, and tried to extinguish the culture. Attitudes perpetuate the systems that uphold this modern day colonialism which will kill us all. I hate the system; I try to not hate people.
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Timeshare owners and spend two to three weeks a year in the islands. As owners we feel a tourism fee is extortion. We consider Hawaii a second home until we came make the move permanently
I have visited the islands a few times. Happy to contribute to preservation and infrastructure of the islands. But the state park fee system of paying for a car plus visitors daily at each site versus a day pass or week pass like the national parks feels like gouging.
Of course it’s visitor control. Visitors pet monk seals, desecrate sacred places, and buy their second or third home here so they can visit a week outta the year. The result is the displacement of our people and families, erosion and loss of culture and environment.
Sad that the conclusion of this piece is fear. Fearing the loss of money. God, people here have been losing everything for centuries.
What does it say about you feeling offended by a dialogue of management while most of the Hawaiians in existence are experiencing displacement and oppression?
How are you getting displaced? By not being able to afford where you live? Welcome to every desirable place in the nation. The answer is not the control of others. It’s about you taking control of your own life and doing something about it. Get more education, a better job, move away from the area for awhile if you have to. That’s what everyone does.
People seem to think that they are entitled to live in a place, just because they started out there. People everywhere have this exact problem – lack of affordability – but there are things you can do instead of throwing up your hands in despair, and trying to malign and prevent others from enjoying what you enjoy. No aloha there.
I can name 1000 other areas where it’s also happening. Exact same issue. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the way the world turns.
I am not wealthy, and I wish I and everyone else could enjoy the best in life, remain in their childhood neighborhoods, etc. – but it’s just not the way it works. However, I’ve never considered remaining inactive and hating on rich people. Instead I strive to do whatever I can on my own to help myself and my family get the best out of life.
I can too but that doesn’t mean you throw up your hands and say, “Oh well”. There is a lot that can be done. Where I live[a very touristy town with our own issues ] just sold an old large property the state owned to a developer. They must build affordable housing & housing for disabled people on that land as well as set aside 700 acres as open space. Big $$$ was salivating to get their teeth into it. We as residents fought back and we got a better outcome. Also income inequality has been as bad as it was in the “Gilded Age.” It’s time to make some changes.
PatG
Wait – you fought against building affordable housing? What was the better outcome?
Leigh C
And just to be clear, the bid swath of land that will be turned into affordable housing is in Addition to the homeless transitional housing project. These are 2 separate solutions in our community.
Leigh C
No we fought for that land to be used for people who have for decades been pushed & priced out of our community. We didn’t want a high dollar developer to buy it and put million dollar houses on it. We are also building transitional housing for our homeless citizens.It’s whole person approach where people have tiny homes, there are social services on site, they will get mental health help for those who need it, job training & placement. Once they have a firm foundation they will be transitioned to permanent housing and once they move the next person who needs help will move in and the process starts again. It better to tackle problems and help people than to spin one’s wheels and do nothing.
kaleo
Displacement of natives continues. Hawaiians have been forced to flea our homeland for many decades due to invading wealthy and corporations gobbling up aina, the few good jobs mostly going to haoles, pricing us out.
Families, communities, culture destroyed often resulting in poverty, addiction, poor health. Those who leave mostly go to Vegas and the like and get decent paying union jobs while prices in Hawaii skyrocket, preventing return.
Your suggestions are simplistic, do not acknowledge history or the systems that perpetuate the problem, but rather blame Hawaiians for not being haole enough.
You are no different than all the other humans in the country who have been displaced by gentrification. You are the one who needs to educate yourself about this. The problem with small island populations is that they have no conception of the problems being faced throughout the country and the world.
Also, don’t pull the race card – that has nothing to do with this, and you may be displaying your own racism by introducing haoles into this discussion.
Rich get richer, and the poor, if they allow themselves to be victims, will get poorer. Your choice. Quit blaming others for your inaction.
As a kanaka maoli:
we don’t want we here,
we don’t need your here,
please don’t come,
please don’t buy land here,
please tell the military to leave
and give us our land back.
Educate yourselves to remove the shroud of ignorance from your minds. Hawai‘i is not and never will be America.
We are not Americans.
By visiting Hawai‘i you are culpable in furthering a the illegal occupation and abuse of Hawai‘i and her people.
That mindset will result in Hawaii being turned into what a lot of small Pacific island nations are. A third-world, high-poverty stricken island with limited resources and opportunities. At least that mindset takes up a small minority of people.
To paraphrase something attributed to Churchill, “Hawaii can always be trusted to do the right thing, once all other possibilities have been exhausted.” In the many years I’ve lived here I regularly think, “surely, after _____, I can’t be surprised again by governmental ineptitude and corruption”. I’m always, repeatedly, eventually wrong. Is getting rid of the HTA a bad idea? I don’t know, but I would bet my own money it will be poorly executed, cost more than it should, and have negative results. Law making here seems to follow the I-think-I-have-a-good-idea-but-no-idea-how-to-evaluate-or-implement-it-but-we-will-forge-ahead-anyway process.
We were paying $5 per person each time we visited a state park 8n January. Visiting 3 parks in one day costs $30 per couple. Would the $50charge replace this
It is ridiculous that a state can charge or restrict people from another state to visit or even worse charge then to visit, I live in California, we are invaded by people and cartels crossing our borders and the federal government does nothing, these intruders use and destroy many of our natural resources, if these arrogant Hawaiian politicians pass any laws that charge or restrict fellow Americans the law should be unconstitutional, if they do all registered citizens of Hawaiian should be charged to visit the 9th Island Las Vegas or California, or any state. Quinlan sounds like a jerk.
My husband & I have been to Hawaii many times.Last time this Feb. It’s unfortunate that tourism has developed the way it has since arriving in the 1860’s. Today I feel for the people of Hawaii.They have a non stop onslaught of tourists. We went to a public beach on the North Shore,you couldn’t find parking in the low season. I can’t image being a local constantly having to navigate the non stop stream of visitors. The only people benefiting are the hotel owners/Big businesses spread out all over the island.My hope is they change the way tourists experience Hawaii.More respectful of the people,their land & culture.After over 150 years of it being to the benefit of big money investors maybe it’s time it benefits the people.
Not for this at all. Hawaii is part of the USA so I believe if you want to limit guests – it must start with out of country guests!!!! Never should a U.S. citizen be limited as to when they can visit any of the islands. China & Japan are a large flex of the guests.
Another money grab and money corrupts and those who manage it will mismanage it. Visitors pay more to visit Hawaii than any other place on the Planet in special fees and taxes it’s obscene. Fees and taxes currently collected aren’t being applied to where they’re supposed to go. Hawaii has become a money pit much like Vegas and visitors pay more for less. We won’t be visiting Hawaii anytime soon unless it changes course. It’s for millionaires and homeless people now.
Hopefully they use the funds to get the homeless and drug issues under control. If the intent is to discourage visiting, job well done. Been coming for 20 years and this is my last. Will spend my vacations $ where they are welcomed.
Aloha, implementing a “Green fee”, is probably (not sure) against federal law. It is also the first step in creating the un-United States of America, if other states followed suite. Our son lives in Mt. View, Hawaii. Which get the most rain of any place in the USA. Having to pay $50 on top of the Sky High airline and hotel fee’s will turn visitors away. It will only line the pockets of the legislators.
Mahalo.
Lower your prices! You are a small market travel vacation destination. People have no reason to travel to your area to experience elevated prices that are not inline with prices they pay or expect to see when visiting other travel vacation destinations costing them much less to visit. The area has always been over priced and marketed as a dream vacation destination. Perhaps this was true in the 70’s and in the 80’s and early 90’s. It has not been a destination to experience pricewise in the past 5-6 years. It simply has not. From 1/1/2011 to 4/25/22 I traveled to Oahu 3-5 times yearly and spent between $3,000-$4,000 a visit up to as much as $10,000 a trip. This does not include my airline tickets or my taxi rides. Overpriced now!!
I have bought 3 timeshares in Hawaii. How will this affect us and penalize us? When we came back when HI was open after COVID everyone was thrilled that we were there so they could work. Last year when we went to the BI, many of the stores were still closed. How is this helping their economy?
In the 20 years we’ve owned vacation rentals on the Big Island, We’ve seen rampant overbuilding of timeshares and vacation rentals. If you build it, they will come. Visitors fly long distances and spend many thousands of dollars to see all of lovely, special Hawaii including volcanoes and waterfalls. They will not be confined to the beach resorts. Building departments: Stop permitting more timeshares and vacation rentals Now. (There are thousands more on the books right now permitted and being built.)
Such whining from visitors who prefer extractive tourism with no restrictions or true cost to anyone but locals & aina. Stay home, already! We don’t need your dollars.
Anela A, that i a very interesting response. How do you know you don’t need our dollars. What is your 2nd industry to Tourism. How would the state replace the dollars that receive from all the Tourist Taxes they gather? Be very careful what you wish for.
Yes you do! Tourist dollars are the bigger income source of Oahu Island.You mean you do not know this? Has been since Peral Harbor and that war ended.Ok. Know your history. Tourism yearly brings in more financial revenue than the resudents of all 8 islands combined and always will. You are a very small isolated area away from larger geographical areas with more people, with larger to much larger incomes and wealth. The area is a tourist transit, vacation retirement area. Believe it or not. The boats parked in the Ala Moana and Ali Way Harbors. Thats about mostly retirement and wealth. Learn your areas history.
“Extractive Tourism” – lol – you’ve been listening to some of the haters on the Maui County Council.
I hope you continue towards the rest of us residents when we are starving with no place to work and have to leave the islands. More of the islands to yourself, I suppose.
Once Hawaii became part of the US it no longer belonged exclusively to Hawaii residents wether anyone likes that fact or not.. Land management needs to happen not just for Hawaiians but for all future generations. Rather then try to control people control access with fees, toll roads, parking meters, etc… As far as needing those tax dollars go, tourism makes up 21% of the HI economy a good boost to anyones standard of living. It helps drive what businesses, educational and health facilities you will have. Covid gave a glimpse of life with out tourist and many businesses failed and some still struggling. It may not of been your family business but it was someones. Every should want better education and health care. (Tax $ from Tourism)
Please respect Americans,
Would you like all of the US Soldiers to “ Stay Home” if Hawaii is under attack again? Hawaii belongs to the USA & we will come and go as we please. Whether we own property or not it is our home as much as any residents. I respect authentic Hawaiian Culture & will always show that. But as for any given millionaire who pokes his flag in the sand and snobs Americans- forget about it.
Thanks for letting me reply.
Exactly. None of these comments take into consideration what the onslaught of tourists do the the people who call it home. The people who benefit economically enormously are Big business not the local people. It’s amazing to me that people overlook this.
It’s amazing to me that you don’t see that all the businesses, local and otherwise, create not only jobs at the businesses, but jobs at the auxiliary businesses that support the big businesses, and the benefits fan out from there. The whole economy is healthier because of the main economic engine of Hawaii, which has been tourism for the past 75 years.
However, since I am here I do understand the annoyances that crowds of tourists create. The quality of life for both tourists and residents is negatively affected if there are too many large crowds of people at beaches, in restaurants, on the highways, etc. Maui Island Plan says resident-to-visitor ratio should be 3-to-1, and we should work towards that goal.
All that Big money being made is being made primarily by the BIG corporations, for everyone else it’s the “trickle down” effect. A “trickle down” economy benefits no one but those at the top. There are other destinations around the world who are looking at severely limiting tourists. One example is Machu Picchu, others are: Amsterdam, Boracay, Angkor Wat, Galapagos, Iceland, Santorini, Bali, Dubrovnik, Barcelona, Thai Islands, Mount Everest, Venice and even some of our own National Parks. Again it’s best we start seriously addressing this, it’s unfortunate but par for the course that these problems rarely get addressed until they become a crisis.
Leigh C – So you are calling for population stagnation, then? The number of people on the planet will continue to grow otherwise, and they will also want to see those wonderful places. What Hawaii is experiencing has long been felt by other States and countries. Should we limit international travel? Should only those who can afford the high $$$ of airline tickets be allowed to travel? There is no easy solution, but complaining about it doesn’t help. I live in over-populated California. I try and count my blessings that I get to live in a beautiful place; I know there is still solitude to be found here.
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Leigh C
“So you are calling for population stagnation, then?” Your statement is an assumption on your part. No where in my comments did I suggest or imply anything of the sort. “should we limit international travel?” Well that is literally already happening. Yosemite has a cap on reservation capacity in the valley during peak times. Other destinations around the globe that are overwrought are doing the same. I’m a 5th generation Californian & live in tourist town that gets 8.4 million tourists a year our pop is 50,000 residents. California is 24 times bigger than Hawaii , no comparison. I know 2 things that won’t solve the problem: Hyperbole & the status quo. People of a community deserve to be respected, to not be consistently over wrought by more
Regina
I am a small business owner here, i have lived in this state for 35 years,Hawaii is losing residence in record numbers. Because they’re bought and sold by the hotel lobby. And they have done nothing to protect the residence from gentrification,Hawaii is unfriendly to business,residence, and now the last thing tourist,they are making it impossible to rent your property and make your high Morgage they penalize residence with confusing and high tax on this endeavor. Residence are just trying to make they Morgage. They don’ protect landlords, but disparaging residence for not renting cheep to abusive renters. This fee will be a final death blow for modest income visitors
Thank you for your insight! I’ve been visiting the islands since 1979 and have seen many of the changes. Many of the people I’ve met are working two and three jobs; their kids are doing the same, but are unable to keep up with inflation or with the government working against them.
I go to enjoy the people and scenery… beaches and trails, not so much.
It’s truly sad that a large group of Hawaii’s residents can no longer sustain a living that enables them to keep or even afford a residence in the land of their birth. If indeed these fees are instituted a large portion should be allocated to affordable housing. The state government has never been been friendly to her tax paying residents and particilarly small businesses. Utterly ridiculous!!
It is truly sad, but Hawaiians shouldn’t feel alone or that they are somehow unique. The entire country’s grown children have been pushed out of their homelands in every state. It’s a national (maybe even international) problem that is difficult to solve.
I agree with Pat G. Just want to add that I was born and raised in California and can barely afford my home. My children have to live elsewhere. The state has now passed a law (without the vote of its citizens) that allows developers to buy up single family homes and replace them with MDU’s, without the approval of the cities or counties they decide to build in. So, Hawaii is Not alone and is Not unique in this parasitical developer situation.
Land and homes are also being bought up by foreign nationals who are looking for investment opportunities. It has been happening in California for decades, and only getting worse. Sadly, our government officials turn a blind eye to it. $$$ money rules.
Great article, a difficult and dilemma for Hawaiians. With Kamaaina Discounts and selected beaches restricted to residents of only, a $50 surcharge to many visitors may be the last straw. We’ve been visiting the islands every year for the last 16 years. I would gladly pay a $50 visitor charge if Hawaiian residents give up their preferential privileges, not both.
If Hawaii State wants to enhance the tourism experience, Hawaii State should provide and maintain all public restrooms at our State parks. The condition of restrooms at Hawaii Island State parks is despicable, unhealthy, shameful.
Yes- you are so right. The park public bathrooms are the worst I’ve ever seen. Not sanitary. People can get parasites easily in tropical climates. Clean that Latrean 😍
I own a small lot on the Big Island which I plan to use part of the year as a part time resident. I don’t mind paying the state to support the qualities that attract people to Hawai’i, but a fee to non-residents each time they visit a beach or State Park, that’s unmanageable, counter productive (as it tells tourists we don’t really want you here) and it’s administratively expensive. Add a fee to each airline ticket instead.
Once I got over my guilt about my ancestors’ role in the colonization of Hawai’i, I fell in love with visiting over and over! As a service oriented haole, I keep trying to make my next trip be centered around volunteering to clean up Kahoolawe. Unfortunately, it seems impossible to make contact with whatever organization is in charge of lining up folks to do that work.
I’ve been saddened by the effects of overtourism and concerned I’m part of the problem. While I understand the aim of it, I think the “do not visit” list is insane and unrealistic. If a Green Fee is enacted, one use could be funding and promoting a robust program connecting willing visitor-volunteers to short and opportunities to serve the ‘aina and kama’aina. Thanks.
We have been going for such a long time, that we know what we want. I don’t believe any agencies or other people would know what we want.
Lately I’ve been helping a young newly married couple make plans for a honeymoon on Maui. He has an uncle that owns a condo on Maui and the uncle is letting them use the condo. I’m showing him all the hoops he needs to jump through for a honeymoon on Maui.
I’ve always wanted to explore the Caribbean more but it is a long trip from California. It is becoming more and more attractive as Hawaii gets crazier and more expensive every day. I own a timeshare so I’ll go every other year. We usually would visit one of the other islands on the alternate years. Might start with Turks and Caicos nest alternate year.
Your article is precisely why this needs to be enacted. Too many people treat Hawai’i as a cool vacation and not a fragile ecosystem home to many endangered wildlife. Your comment on tourism being the only source of income to the islands is also incredibly tone deaf considering it didn’t used to be this way until tourists priced residents out of their own lands. Truly a disgusting article.
Hawaii hasn’t been a fragile ecosystem since the proto Hawaiians landed and invaded the environment with invasive species carried on their canoes. It has kept getting worse since then. Today is just a summation of thousands of tragedies. The poisoning is now shifting to our minds and thoughts.
Give me a break! All I want to do on my visits to Hawaii is spend some calm and regenerative time on your beaches, admiring and appreciating your wildlife and fragile ecosystem.
What makes zero sense to you is based on your awareness of people, life, places and things. Traveling increases your level of awareness intellegence. Travel away from your birth area and away from the familiar and you will increase your awareness of people, places, things and life. Remember this: “The unfamiliar holds more value in awareness than the familiar. This is not zero sense, it’s common sense gained through the interactions of others i was unfamiliar with. Every point of refuge has its price. Still in 2023 we have not discovered a cure for lack of awareness. Now go out and purchase yourself a plane ticket and discover the unfamiliar.✌️
Well, that was an off-the-beaten-path response, apropos of nothing. I’m IN Hawaii, and quite schooled ad nauseam on the mantra of we-are-natives-get-off-of-our-land nonsense.
Now that does make zero sense. The government and its leaders priced Oahu residents out of a normal life on Oahu and the outer islands. Let’s go back to brink you farward to today 2023. Pearl Harbor the attack on the Hawaiian Islands. Thats right, the Japanese did not just attack Oahu Island. Their war planes came over Kolekole Pass bumbed Oahu and finished their bumbing a d land destruction on the Big Island. Thats right. Thats where the bombing ended in the Pacific Island region. Ok. The war planes that helped fight off the Japanese came from TEXAS. Yes, TEXAS Airforce did fight off the Japanese war planes away from Oahu Island. Mission one. Mission Two by the order of the then TEXAS governor, go to the Pacific region, level it! History.
We have “visited” Hawaii for the last 55 years and our daughter graduated from UH Manoa. The last thing we need is a bunch of burecrats “fixing” tourism. What happened to the spirit of Ohana?
Interesting. We just came back a few weeks ago after being in Oahu (North Shore mainly) & then Kauai. We felt the Aloha spirit consistently, as we had on 2 previous trips. And not just from the hotels’ staffs. Felt we had good interaction as we chatted with locals. But not discounting your experience. Too bad you felt that way. Don’t let this one experience ruin future plans to visit Hawaii. Aloha!
I think Hawaii is a beautiful place and I’ve always dreamed of visiting. I know I personally am spending 12-15k just to go visit which is completely insane. I will never spend that kind of money there again. Hawaii should consider tourists friends. Tourism is a major part of your economy and many would lose jobs and livelihoods without them. Maybe just cut back on the number of tourists each year in order to preserve your environment if that’s actually an issue.
NO!!! Hawaii is losing its intrigue due to the infighting of local HI government, HTA and the idea of Telling visitors how to “vacation”.
Please leave the HVCB and local Island Chapters alone. Let them continue Promote & help Sell this incredible destination.
If Hawaii as a destination overall continues to price itself out of the market (state entry fees, beach fees, hotel prices & fees are crazy), folks have other options of where to spend their vacation time and Money! ~Mahalo
I read the article 2x to be sure and it says All visitors. So I can assume that means the charge would be imposed on visitors from other countries as well. The comments are confusing they seem to be directed mostly at mainland visitors or maybe it’s just mainland visitors complaining the most? I lived in Waikiki and worked for a local family owned very busy restaurant there for several years during and after 9/11. Tourism then seemed to aim at other countries because mainland visitors were a small % of the millions visiting. As another reader stated other countries have similar fees. Unfortunately the mentality is if your a US citizen you shouldn’t have to pay the fee. get over it or don’t visit. 50$ shouldn’t make or break your vacation
It won’t work. The interstate commerce clause of the Constitution states the Free flow of commerce between states. That includes tourism. I suggest charging all nations but the US $500. You know to cover it.
Four words. We need a balance.
John W, agreed. However, the State allowed the hotels and timeshares and condos, etc to build all the rooms. They have spent the money and paid the taxes … now what, not receive their return on investment? The State is to blame for all … “if you build it they will come”.
Galapagos Islands charge each visitor U$200 (Two Hundred) to visit their islands. They don’t have any problems filling the limited tourism space. The funds are used to protect and preserve the islands
The Galápagos Islands are a province in another country. They are not part of the US.
The Definition of Aloha Tax. $50 entry fee. Lol
I would like to know where all the taxes imposed on hotel and rental properties goes. There should be details in the state and county budgets showing how that income is allocated. It’s the highest of any state in the USA and now they want to impose more taxes and fees for visitors.
All of that financial information is public information, so if you are truly interested the information is there for the reading. Hawaii is unique compared to the mainland as they have to import virtually everything. This discussion would be far more productive if those commenting would do some research on these issues. Commenting and assuming the situation is similar to tourist destinations on the mainland is misguided. They are not remotely similar.
If they implement visitor fees, we will stop coming to Hawaii. We have come for 34 years and stay for a month. We will travel to other tropical destinations where they don’t charge visitor fees or tell me where I can go and when.
I live in Hawaii. The government taxes us far more than anywhere else, and they already impose fees and outrageous prices on visitors & residents alike. But they never spend the tax money on improving anything. Our roads are lucky to have pavement and those that do are riddled with potholes, uneven, and narrow. The buildings are all rusted, crumbling, and moldy. They pump the city’s sewage into the ocean. The trees in the parks are all infested with pests that are killing them. And there’s so much more but not enough characters to name it all.
That’s because the people there do not demand accountability from those they elect.
I really have no other comment than to say that visiting Hawai’i is expensive enough without an additional fee for just being from the mainland. It would certainly curbs the desire to visit for a number of would-be visitors with Hawai’i on their bucket list.
Aloha,This doesn’t sound very Aloha to me.
What we really need is to not allow visitors to buy up our land.Our state needs to think of the natives & stop taxing us.The state already makes millions of dollars every month off tourism.I really don’t appericate the new paid parking downtown Kona.This place used to feel like home.I know longer recognize it with all these added fees.Seriously us locals have to pay to park too.$14hr for parking is expensive.Our water isn’t safe to drink either.There’s homeless camps that smell like urine everywhere&the state does not clean them up.So what exactly does the money from tourism go too? At this point locals are treated & taxed just like the tourists are. Both needs to stop. Not very Aloha.
Ivanna – I agree! Let’s do the same for California and the west coast altogether. California also suffers greatly from too many tourists, people moving into the state, high housing costs, homelessness, lack of water, expensive parking, fees and taxes for just about everything. Only those who are born in California should be allowed to buy homes and land, and we shouldn’t have to pay taxes either! If it works for Hawaii, it will work for California. Trouble is, our representatives are living off of our backs and will never agree to it.
One word. Unconstitutional.
Two words: illegal occupation.
Three words: Quit blaming others.
Well since its the hoards of tourists that go to Hawaii……….and if the 7.8 million stayed home……..there wouldn’t be a problem. So I don’t quite understand who you think isn’t the problem?
I was responding to the “illegal occupation” comment.
As far as “hoards of tourists”, I do think there needs to be a reasonable resident-to-visitor ratio, to balance the quality of life for both residents and visitors. Here on Maui, the Maui Island plan recommends a ratio of 3-to-1 on any given day. I think currently it is more like 2-to-1.
You must not know the History of the Hawaiian Islands. It started with the Europeans [Capt Cook] then the Spanish and then the American Missionaries. It was the beginning of the end for Hawaiians autonomy & the dissolving of their culture. Then came the US military, hoteliers & tourists. It’s only been since the 1960’s that Hawaiians have pushed back to reclaim their culture & land, it’s been an uphill battle since. I’m amazed people are balking at a $50 fee when they spend that for 1 night of cocktails. Hawaiians are pushing against huge monied interests & tourists who seem to think their interests are more important than that of the Indigenous people & residents.
Four words. We need a balance
(Better placement then the other)
KALa – I’m interested in knowing where you think Hawaii would be today if the U.S. had not protected the islands from Japan? Would you be happier if you were under their rule? I just don’t understand why you resent the U.S. so greatly. Is it because you want to be self-ruling? How do you propose to protect yourself from those who would occupy your beautiful islands? Also, no one in the present day has said that you shouldn’t maintain your native culture; so instead of griping about being part of the U.S.A., why not choose to be happy and focus on restoring your culture and sharing it? You can’t change the past, but you can make the future bright. I wish you much aloha and success.
I dont think the reference was to Japan. It was to the illegal overthrow of Hawaii’s government by the combined forces of the US and sugar planters who deposed the rightful queen of the Kingdom Of Hawaii, with whom the US had a treaty,and illegally annexed the islands. Something the US Government has literally apologized for thru the US Congress but to what end? We are now called a state…but in many respects we are not treated as one, very similar to the treatment of the District of Columbia. We are vassals of the US Authority. Have we benefited…depends on your perspective. Maybe we would have benefited more from retaining our independence. Noone knows but most educated have an opinion.
Your comment is very colonial centric. The US used Hawaii as a strategic buffer to protect the mainland, their first thought wasn’t to protect the Hawaiians. The Hawaiian islands have only so much space before you hit ocean. There are 1, 447,154 residents of Hawaii.They get 7.8 M tourists annually. And lastly Hawaiians were kept from practicing & honoring their culture until 1970. So maybe we all ought to be more sensitive to their needs rather than our own .
There’s 2 types of tourists, those that get offended by this and those that understand it. Would you feel better if it were renamed as another accommodation tax? Management is only becoming a thing because it has gone unmanaged and uncontrolled for decades. Tourists and some companies benefited, while locals paid the price.
I disagree, there are those two that see how much the taxes have gone up and nothing has been done and those that do not. I’ve going to Maui since 2008 and in that time nothing has changed despite all the taxes are collected from me every time I go there, the roads don’t get paid, the parking lots are not refinished, there’s no affordable housing, housing, the problem is it’s I like the same corrupt legislators every time and it goes to somebody’s pockets.
Understood. I’m all for finding the right balance between tourists and the infrastructure and environment to support them, as well as support the way of life of residents. After all, if Hawaii gets too overrun, it will lose some of its beauty, which is what the visitors and residents alike want to experience and preserve.
Finding the right balance, though, is going to be painful, I think. For visitors, but especially for locals. Sometimes, things seem to need to oscillate too far in both directions before middle ground is found and balance can be achieved.
Right now we are oscillating so far in the direction of extra fees, taxes, rules, attitudes, hotel and meal prices, etc. that it is starting to hurt the local economy.
Is it hurting the local economy? Where? How? The industry & this site want to blame softness in projected bookings on the few new fees imposed even though any thoughtful person knows the awareness of these fees is very low. So, the impact is thus limited also. More likely, the softness reflects more tangible, quantifiable drivers like 1) economic influences say inflation, lost jobs, uncertainty, 2) the industry seeing recent growth as an opportunity to rape visitors again with high hotel costs, resort fees, rental car fees, costs to eat out, 3) increased cost of flights, 4) continued concerns in Japan over Covid, 5) concerns throughout Asia and Europe over potential war, 6) increased COL in US. All impact the industry.
Who are you arguing with? I believe I mentioned many of the reasons you listed.
I don’t think #1 and #5 are issues currently. Tourist counts are actually up throughout the world as a whole compared to 2019, the last “normal” year. And many of them seem to be going to Europe this year.
Pretty sure that the high car and hotel rates, along with all the new taxes and fees being imposed both by the resorts and by the government, plus the hostile attitude of late towards visitors, are the main drivers keeping visitors away currently. And as I’ve said in previous posts, the government actions in particular have been designed intentionally to stop visitors from coming. They have stated directly and in public that this is the intention.
This isn’t just an issue in Hawaii but a problem world wide. Hawaii has never been a cheap destination. If people want cheap they go to Mexico, Costa Rica or take a cruise. This displacement is happening worldwide. Portugal, Mallorca, Minorca & Ibiza are some examples of places where outsiders come buy up cheap real estate & come for the lower cost of living. By doing that they have pushed out the native population and driven up costs so that the people who grew up there no longer can afford to live there. It’s time to repair what’s been done to these communities, they deserve respect, to reclaim ownership and feel at peace as much as all those tourists feel in their home communities.
Not going to happen, though. No $$ in it. Humans are incentivized beings, unfortunately.
I agree that balance is the ultimate goal. But there has to be something in it for the powers that be in order for them to promote and execute the change.
Not an impossible proposition. Subsidizing developers to build more affordable housing would be a good start. I wouldn’t mind my tax money going towards supporting that.
Sounds intimidating. The fees might be a great idea, but seriously, start with $25, so it doesn’t look like just a money grab and be responsible in use if the money.
A fee for a US citizen to visit another state ? LOL. I’m sure that would be unconstitutional! What’s wrong with progress and gentrification? Native Hawaiian have no more rights than any other citizen of the USA.
“Progress” and gentrification (for who?)= displacement of Hawaiians, destruction of aina, kai and aloha.
The forced takeover of a sovereign nation (Hawaii) by wealthy foreign businessmen continues though with less direct force.
Native Hawaiians do not have federal recognition like Native Americans do, so yes, less rights.
Read up on the history of Hawaii, especially as told from native Hawaiian scholars. There is much more than haole fantasies of the natives.
You are very presumptuous to assume that Paul and everyone else isn’t aware of the history of Hawaii. Hawaii “was stolen”. All places are “stolen” when they are settled. The mainland was “stolen” from the Indians, Australia was “stolen” from the Aborigines, etc. Those facts are neither here nor there. No one who committed the heinous crime of settling in these areas is still alive.
The best thing to do if you are upset about your circumstances is to stop blaming others for something they had Nothing to do with, move forward, and carve out a better life for yourself, either in Hawaii or somewhere else.
Uh, wake up man. It was not “settled”. It was stolen at gunpoint despite the long existence of a treaty between the US and the Kingdom of Hawaii. It was just like the way we (the US) and the Native Americans..we want it we take it….the fact that noone who executed this is alive is hardly relevant. Hitler is dead too. So is the Japanese Emperor, Stalin, Lenin and Mao. So, we should ignore all the stuff they did too…my ancestors who were killed at Auschwitz be damned….
“Those facts” have legacies that live in the here and now, in the people and aina. Educate yourself on privilege, as it is handed down from generations that initially stole the land, decimated Hawaiians, and tried to extinguish the culture. Attitudes perpetuate the systems that uphold this modern day colonialism which will kill us all. I hate the system; I try to not hate people.
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Timeshare owners and spend two to three weeks a year in the islands. As owners we feel a tourism fee is extortion. We consider Hawaii a second home until we came make the move permanently
I have visited the islands a few times. Happy to contribute to preservation and infrastructure of the islands. But the state park fee system of paying for a car plus visitors daily at each site versus a day pass or week pass like the national parks feels like gouging.
Of course it’s visitor control. Visitors pet monk seals, desecrate sacred places, and buy their second or third home here so they can visit a week outta the year. The result is the displacement of our people and families, erosion and loss of culture and environment.
Sad that the conclusion of this piece is fear. Fearing the loss of money. God, people here have been losing everything for centuries.
What does it say about you feeling offended by a dialogue of management while most of the Hawaiians in existence are experiencing displacement and oppression?
How are you getting displaced? By not being able to afford where you live? Welcome to every desirable place in the nation. The answer is not the control of others. It’s about you taking control of your own life and doing something about it. Get more education, a better job, move away from the area for awhile if you have to. That’s what everyone does.
People seem to think that they are entitled to live in a place, just because they started out there. People everywhere have this exact problem – lack of affordability – but there are things you can do instead of throwing up your hands in despair, and trying to malign and prevent others from enjoying what you enjoy. No aloha there.
Look to yourself, before you chastise others.
Agreed! My kids are 4th Generation San Diegan’s and they cannot afford to buy a home in San Diego. Same Same.
I can name 1000 other areas where it’s also happening. Exact same issue. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the way the world turns.
I am not wealthy, and I wish I and everyone else could enjoy the best in life, remain in their childhood neighborhoods, etc. – but it’s just not the way it works. However, I’ve never considered remaining inactive and hating on rich people. Instead I strive to do whatever I can on my own to help myself and my family get the best out of life.
I can too but that doesn’t mean you throw up your hands and say, “Oh well”. There is a lot that can be done. Where I live[a very touristy town with our own issues ] just sold an old large property the state owned to a developer. They must build affordable housing & housing for disabled people on that land as well as set aside 700 acres as open space. Big $$$ was salivating to get their teeth into it. We as residents fought back and we got a better outcome. Also income inequality has been as bad as it was in the “Gilded Age.” It’s time to make some changes.
Wait – you fought against building affordable housing? What was the better outcome?
And just to be clear, the bid swath of land that will be turned into affordable housing is in Addition to the homeless transitional housing project. These are 2 separate solutions in our community.
No we fought for that land to be used for people who have for decades been pushed & priced out of our community. We didn’t want a high dollar developer to buy it and put million dollar houses on it. We are also building transitional housing for our homeless citizens.It’s whole person approach where people have tiny homes, there are social services on site, they will get mental health help for those who need it, job training & placement. Once they have a firm foundation they will be transitioned to permanent housing and once they move the next person who needs help will move in and the process starts again. It better to tackle problems and help people than to spin one’s wheels and do nothing.
Displacement of natives continues. Hawaiians have been forced to flea our homeland for many decades due to invading wealthy and corporations gobbling up aina, the few good jobs mostly going to haoles, pricing us out.
Families, communities, culture destroyed often resulting in poverty, addiction, poor health. Those who leave mostly go to Vegas and the like and get decent paying union jobs while prices in Hawaii skyrocket, preventing return.
Your suggestions are simplistic, do not acknowledge history or the systems that perpetuate the problem, but rather blame Hawaiians for not being haole enough.
You are no different than all the other humans in the country who have been displaced by gentrification. You are the one who needs to educate yourself about this. The problem with small island populations is that they have no conception of the problems being faced throughout the country and the world.
Also, don’t pull the race card – that has nothing to do with this, and you may be displaying your own racism by introducing haoles into this discussion.
Rich get richer, and the poor, if they allow themselves to be victims, will get poorer. Your choice. Quit blaming others for your inaction.
As a kanaka maoli:
we don’t want we here,
we don’t need your here,
please don’t come,
please don’t buy land here,
please tell the military to leave
and give us our land back.
Educate yourselves to remove the shroud of ignorance from your minds. Hawai‘i is not and never will be America.
We are not Americans.
By visiting Hawai‘i you are culpable in furthering a the illegal occupation and abuse of Hawai‘i and her people.
Sincerely I don’t blame you for how you feel.
That mindset will result in Hawaii being turned into what a lot of small Pacific island nations are. A third-world, high-poverty stricken island with limited resources and opportunities. At least that mindset takes up a small minority of people.
To paraphrase something attributed to Churchill, “Hawaii can always be trusted to do the right thing, once all other possibilities have been exhausted.” In the many years I’ve lived here I regularly think, “surely, after _____, I can’t be surprised again by governmental ineptitude and corruption”. I’m always, repeatedly, eventually wrong. Is getting rid of the HTA a bad idea? I don’t know, but I would bet my own money it will be poorly executed, cost more than it should, and have negative results. Law making here seems to follow the I-think-I-have-a-good-idea-but-no-idea-how-to-evaluate-or-implement-it-but-we-will-forge-ahead-anyway process.
We were paying $5 per person each time we visited a state park 8n January. Visiting 3 parks in one day costs $30 per couple. Would the $50charge replace this
It is ridiculous that a state can charge or restrict people from another state to visit or even worse charge then to visit, I live in California, we are invaded by people and cartels crossing our borders and the federal government does nothing, these intruders use and destroy many of our natural resources, if these arrogant Hawaiian politicians pass any laws that charge or restrict fellow Americans the law should be unconstitutional, if they do all registered citizens of Hawaiian should be charged to visit the 9th Island Las Vegas or California, or any state. Quinlan sounds like a jerk.
I agree with you 199%
My husband & I have been to Hawaii many times.Last time this Feb. It’s unfortunate that tourism has developed the way it has since arriving in the 1860’s. Today I feel for the people of Hawaii.They have a non stop onslaught of tourists. We went to a public beach on the North Shore,you couldn’t find parking in the low season. I can’t image being a local constantly having to navigate the non stop stream of visitors. The only people benefiting are the hotel owners/Big businesses spread out all over the island.My hope is they change the way tourists experience Hawaii.More respectful of the people,their land & culture.After over 150 years of it being to the benefit of big money investors maybe it’s time it benefits the people.
Not for this at all. Hawaii is part of the USA so I believe if you want to limit guests – it must start with out of country guests!!!! Never should a U.S. citizen be limited as to when they can visit any of the islands. China & Japan are a large flex of the guests.
Another money grab and money corrupts and those who manage it will mismanage it. Visitors pay more to visit Hawaii than any other place on the Planet in special fees and taxes it’s obscene. Fees and taxes currently collected aren’t being applied to where they’re supposed to go. Hawaii has become a money pit much like Vegas and visitors pay more for less. We won’t be visiting Hawaii anytime soon unless it changes course. It’s for millionaires and homeless people now.
So it still is all about the money!!!
Hopefully they use the funds to get the homeless and drug issues under control. If the intent is to discourage visiting, job well done. Been coming for 20 years and this is my last. Will spend my vacations $ where they are welcomed.
Aloha, implementing a “Green fee”, is probably (not sure) against federal law. It is also the first step in creating the un-United States of America, if other states followed suite. Our son lives in Mt. View, Hawaii. Which get the most rain of any place in the USA. Having to pay $50 on top of the Sky High airline and hotel fee’s will turn visitors away. It will only line the pockets of the legislators.
Mahalo.
Lower your prices! You are a small market travel vacation destination. People have no reason to travel to your area to experience elevated prices that are not inline with prices they pay or expect to see when visiting other travel vacation destinations costing them much less to visit. The area has always been over priced and marketed as a dream vacation destination. Perhaps this was true in the 70’s and in the 80’s and early 90’s. It has not been a destination to experience pricewise in the past 5-6 years. It simply has not. From 1/1/2011 to 4/25/22 I traveled to Oahu 3-5 times yearly and spent between $3,000-$4,000 a visit up to as much as $10,000 a trip. This does not include my airline tickets or my taxi rides. Overpriced now!!
I have bought 3 timeshares in Hawaii. How will this affect us and penalize us? When we came back when HI was open after COVID everyone was thrilled that we were there so they could work. Last year when we went to the BI, many of the stores were still closed. How is this helping their economy?
In the 20 years we’ve owned vacation rentals on the Big Island, We’ve seen rampant overbuilding of timeshares and vacation rentals. If you build it, they will come. Visitors fly long distances and spend many thousands of dollars to see all of lovely, special Hawaii including volcanoes and waterfalls. They will not be confined to the beach resorts. Building departments: Stop permitting more timeshares and vacation rentals Now. (There are thousands more on the books right now permitted and being built.)
So now that you got your vacation properties, you don’t want others to be able to get theirs?
When is enough, enough?
Such whining from visitors who prefer extractive tourism with no restrictions or true cost to anyone but locals & aina. Stay home, already! We don’t need your dollars.
Anela A, that i a very interesting response. How do you know you don’t need our dollars. What is your 2nd industry to Tourism. How would the state replace the dollars that receive from all the Tourist Taxes they gather? Be very careful what you wish for.
Gloria G. In regards to Anela A:
Amen!!!
Yes you do! Tourist dollars are the bigger income source of Oahu Island.You mean you do not know this? Has been since Peral Harbor and that war ended.Ok. Know your history. Tourism yearly brings in more financial revenue than the resudents of all 8 islands combined and always will. You are a very small isolated area away from larger geographical areas with more people, with larger to much larger incomes and wealth. The area is a tourist transit, vacation retirement area. Believe it or not. The boats parked in the Ala Moana and Ali Way Harbors. Thats about mostly retirement and wealth. Learn your areas history.
“Extractive Tourism” – lol – you’ve been listening to some of the haters on the Maui County Council.
I hope you continue towards the rest of us residents when we are starving with no place to work and have to leave the islands. More of the islands to yourself, I suppose.
Once Hawaii became part of the US it no longer belonged exclusively to Hawaii residents wether anyone likes that fact or not.. Land management needs to happen not just for Hawaiians but for all future generations. Rather then try to control people control access with fees, toll roads, parking meters, etc… As far as needing those tax dollars go, tourism makes up 21% of the HI economy a good boost to anyones standard of living. It helps drive what businesses, educational and health facilities you will have. Covid gave a glimpse of life with out tourist and many businesses failed and some still struggling. It may not of been your family business but it was someones. Every should want better education and health care. (Tax $ from Tourism)
Dis why no come again, been wanting to visit Caribbean anyways, will take my wallet somewhere they appreciate.
Please respect Americans,
Would you like all of the US Soldiers to “ Stay Home” if Hawaii is under attack again? Hawaii belongs to the USA & we will come and go as we please. Whether we own property or not it is our home as much as any residents. I respect authentic Hawaiian Culture & will always show that. But as for any given millionaire who pokes his flag in the sand and snobs Americans- forget about it.
Thanks for letting me reply.
Exactly. None of these comments take into consideration what the onslaught of tourists do the the people who call it home. The people who benefit economically enormously are Big business not the local people. It’s amazing to me that people overlook this.
It’s amazing to me that you don’t see that all the businesses, local and otherwise, create not only jobs at the businesses, but jobs at the auxiliary businesses that support the big businesses, and the benefits fan out from there. The whole economy is healthier because of the main economic engine of Hawaii, which has been tourism for the past 75 years.
However, since I am here I do understand the annoyances that crowds of tourists create. The quality of life for both tourists and residents is negatively affected if there are too many large crowds of people at beaches, in restaurants, on the highways, etc. Maui Island Plan says resident-to-visitor ratio should be 3-to-1, and we should work towards that goal.
All that Big money being made is being made primarily by the BIG corporations, for everyone else it’s the “trickle down” effect. A “trickle down” economy benefits no one but those at the top. There are other destinations around the world who are looking at severely limiting tourists. One example is Machu Picchu, others are: Amsterdam, Boracay, Angkor Wat, Galapagos, Iceland, Santorini, Bali, Dubrovnik, Barcelona, Thai Islands, Mount Everest, Venice and even some of our own National Parks. Again it’s best we start seriously addressing this, it’s unfortunate but par for the course that these problems rarely get addressed until they become a crisis.
Leigh C – So you are calling for population stagnation, then? The number of people on the planet will continue to grow otherwise, and they will also want to see those wonderful places. What Hawaii is experiencing has long been felt by other States and countries. Should we limit international travel? Should only those who can afford the high $$$ of airline tickets be allowed to travel? There is no easy solution, but complaining about it doesn’t help. I live in over-populated California. I try and count my blessings that I get to live in a beautiful place; I know there is still solitude to be found here.
“So you are calling for population stagnation, then?” Your statement is an assumption on your part. No where in my comments did I suggest or imply anything of the sort. “should we limit international travel?” Well that is literally already happening. Yosemite has a cap on reservation capacity in the valley during peak times. Other destinations around the globe that are overwrought are doing the same. I’m a 5th generation Californian & live in tourist town that gets 8.4 million tourists a year our pop is 50,000 residents. California is 24 times bigger than Hawaii , no comparison. I know 2 things that won’t solve the problem: Hyperbole & the status quo. People of a community deserve to be respected, to not be consistently over wrought by more
I am a small business owner here, i have lived in this state for 35 years,Hawaii is losing residence in record numbers. Because they’re bought and sold by the hotel lobby. And they have done nothing to protect the residence from gentrification,Hawaii is unfriendly to business,residence, and now the last thing tourist,they are making it impossible to rent your property and make your high Morgage they penalize residence with confusing and high tax on this endeavor. Residence are just trying to make they Morgage. They don’ protect landlords, but disparaging residence for not renting cheep to abusive renters. This fee will be a final death blow for modest income visitors
Thank you for your insight! I’ve been visiting the islands since 1979 and have seen many of the changes. Many of the people I’ve met are working two and three jobs; their kids are doing the same, but are unable to keep up with inflation or with the government working against them.
I go to enjoy the people and scenery… beaches and trails, not so much.
It’s truly sad that a large group of Hawaii’s residents can no longer sustain a living that enables them to keep or even afford a residence in the land of their birth. If indeed these fees are instituted a large portion should be allocated to affordable housing. The state government has never been been friendly to her tax paying residents and particilarly small businesses. Utterly ridiculous!!
It is truly sad, but Hawaiians shouldn’t feel alone or that they are somehow unique. The entire country’s grown children have been pushed out of their homelands in every state. It’s a national (maybe even international) problem that is difficult to solve.
I agree with Pat G. Just want to add that I was born and raised in California and can barely afford my home. My children have to live elsewhere. The state has now passed a law (without the vote of its citizens) that allows developers to buy up single family homes and replace them with MDU’s, without the approval of the cities or counties they decide to build in. So, Hawaii is Not alone and is Not unique in this parasitical developer situation.
Land and homes are also being bought up by foreign nationals who are looking for investment opportunities. It has been happening in California for decades, and only getting worse. Sadly, our government officials turn a blind eye to it. $$$ money rules.
Great article, a difficult and dilemma for Hawaiians. With Kamaaina Discounts and selected beaches restricted to residents of only, a $50 surcharge to many visitors may be the last straw. We’ve been visiting the islands every year for the last 16 years. I would gladly pay a $50 visitor charge if Hawaiian residents give up their preferential privileges, not both.
If Hawaii State wants to enhance the tourism experience, Hawaii State should provide and maintain all public restrooms at our State parks. The condition of restrooms at Hawaii Island State parks is despicable, unhealthy, shameful.
Yes- you are so right. The park public bathrooms are the worst I’ve ever seen. Not sanitary. People can get parasites easily in tropical climates. Clean that Latrean 😍
I own a small lot on the Big Island which I plan to use part of the year as a part time resident. I don’t mind paying the state to support the qualities that attract people to Hawai’i, but a fee to non-residents each time they visit a beach or State Park, that’s unmanageable, counter productive (as it tells tourists we don’t really want you here) and it’s administratively expensive. Add a fee to each airline ticket instead.
I propose charging a fee to any Hawaiians coming to the mainland
Once I got over my guilt about my ancestors’ role in the colonization of Hawai’i, I fell in love with visiting over and over! As a service oriented haole, I keep trying to make my next trip be centered around volunteering to clean up Kahoolawe. Unfortunately, it seems impossible to make contact with whatever organization is in charge of lining up folks to do that work.
I’ve been saddened by the effects of overtourism and concerned I’m part of the problem. While I understand the aim of it, I think the “do not visit” list is insane and unrealistic. If a Green Fee is enacted, one use could be funding and promoting a robust program connecting willing visitor-volunteers to short and opportunities to serve the ‘aina and kama’aina. Thanks.
We have been going for such a long time, that we know what we want. I don’t believe any agencies or other people would know what we want.
Lately I’ve been helping a young newly married couple make plans for a honeymoon on Maui. He has an uncle that owns a condo on Maui and the uncle is letting them use the condo. I’m showing him all the hoops he needs to jump through for a honeymoon on Maui.
I’ve always wanted to explore the Caribbean more but it is a long trip from California. It is becoming more and more attractive as Hawaii gets crazier and more expensive every day. I own a timeshare so I’ll go every other year. We usually would visit one of the other islands on the alternate years. Might start with Turks and Caicos nest alternate year.
David W, consider a cruise when you visit the Caribbean … very affordable.
I’ll agree with Gloria.
Your article is precisely why this needs to be enacted. Too many people treat Hawai’i as a cool vacation and not a fragile ecosystem home to many endangered wildlife. Your comment on tourism being the only source of income to the islands is also incredibly tone deaf considering it didn’t used to be this way until tourists priced residents out of their own lands. Truly a disgusting article.
Hawaii hasn’t been a fragile ecosystem since the proto Hawaiians landed and invaded the environment with invasive species carried on their canoes. It has kept getting worse since then. Today is just a summation of thousands of tragedies. The poisoning is now shifting to our minds and thoughts.
Give me a break! All I want to do on my visits to Hawaii is spend some calm and regenerative time on your beaches, admiring and appreciating your wildlife and fragile ecosystem.
“Tourists priced residents out of their own lands”.
What a weird thing to say. Can you imagine saying “Las Vegas tourists priced residents out of their own lands”.
Sounds good and righteous, but makes 0 sense.
What makes zero sense to you is based on your awareness of people, life, places and things. Traveling increases your level of awareness intellegence. Travel away from your birth area and away from the familiar and you will increase your awareness of people, places, things and life. Remember this: “The unfamiliar holds more value in awareness than the familiar. This is not zero sense, it’s common sense gained through the interactions of others i was unfamiliar with. Every point of refuge has its price. Still in 2023 we have not discovered a cure for lack of awareness. Now go out and purchase yourself a plane ticket and discover the unfamiliar.✌️
Well, that was an off-the-beaten-path response, apropos of nothing. I’m IN Hawaii, and quite schooled ad nauseam on the mantra of we-are-natives-get-off-of-our-land nonsense.
Now that does make zero sense. The government and its leaders priced Oahu residents out of a normal life on Oahu and the outer islands. Let’s go back to brink you farward to today 2023. Pearl Harbor the attack on the Hawaiian Islands. Thats right, the Japanese did not just attack Oahu Island. Their war planes came over Kolekole Pass bumbed Oahu and finished their bumbing a d land destruction on the Big Island. Thats right. Thats where the bombing ended in the Pacific Island region. Ok. The war planes that helped fight off the Japanese came from TEXAS. Yes, TEXAS Airforce did fight off the Japanese war planes away from Oahu Island. Mission one. Mission Two by the order of the then TEXAS governor, go to the Pacific region, level it! History.
We have “visited” Hawaii for the last 55 years and our daughter graduated from UH Manoa. The last thing we need is a bunch of burecrats “fixing” tourism. What happened to the spirit of Ohana?
Interesting. We just came back a few weeks ago after being in Oahu (North Shore mainly) & then Kauai. We felt the Aloha spirit consistently, as we had on 2 previous trips. And not just from the hotels’ staffs. Felt we had good interaction as we chatted with locals. But not discounting your experience. Too bad you felt that way. Don’t let this one experience ruin future plans to visit Hawaii. Aloha!
I think Hawaii is a beautiful place and I’ve always dreamed of visiting. I know I personally am spending 12-15k just to go visit which is completely insane. I will never spend that kind of money there again. Hawaii should consider tourists friends. Tourism is a major part of your economy and many would lose jobs and livelihoods without them. Maybe just cut back on the number of tourists each year in order to preserve your environment if that’s actually an issue.