1,090 thoughts on “Hawaii Visitors and Residents Whipsaw in 1,000 Comments”
Cindym
I think the videos are fine.
I know a good bit about dealing w/tourists, having lived so close to WDW I heard the fireworks daily. I also worked for the Mouse for a long time. Bottom line IMO? Treat people with kindness & respect, & almost every time it will be returned.. I’m my observation, it’s entitled behaviors that really turn off locals. In Hawaii, Florida, or wherever.
Aloha,
Personally, I could care less how I’m treated by locals. I wouldn’t expect them to be “tour guides.” I respect people, nature, law, ordinances, wherever I vacation. Hawaii isn’t the only place in the US “overwhelmed” with tourists… many places in OR, WA, CA are in the same boat short staffing, trashy tourists, littering, not respectful to wildlife. Hawaii isn’t unique in that aspect. Hawaii is a tourist destination, it is marketed a such. Tourists are what the state thrives on. Mahalo!
I have been to wonderful Kauai 8 times and as recently as this past December.
I have never been treated poorly by locals!!
I love Kauai and its Aloha spirit.
The only problem I have personally witnessed with visitors is them getting far too close to turtles and seals on the beach or in the water even after being asked to keep a distance.
I dreamt of Hawaii since a child, & found it even more lovely. I love hula kahiko, Olelo, the music, & attend local fundraisers. I find the people gracious. A favorite memory is arriving in Kahului Harbor on the Disney Wonder: I was so ecstatic to be back on my beloved Maui, I practically skipped off the ship into the Port building, & w/arms open, said, “thank you for sharing your beautiful island w/us!”! The older woman/Port employee grabbed me & gave me such a hug!! A treasured Aloha moment!
Aloha! I wish Hawaii Tourism would create a short little video that could play on airplanes to educate people about e.g.; respecting wildlife especially the sea turtles and seals; ocean/water safety; A brief history of the islands; how tourism can affect fragile ecosystems; and ending with positive aloha vibes of welcome. I think a lot of visitors just don’t know about many of these things…Education and information Are key. You are right, Hawaii tourism get a D rating in Communication!
I think Aloha needs to be taught in Hawaiian schools – its history, its charm & its place in modern society.
And, all aircraft & boats arriving in Hawaii – need a more thorough video of Hawaii, Aloha & what’s important to most Hawaiians & how visitors should behave. But please avoid the subject of Climate Change – the climate has been making epic changes for the entire history of the earth. Old forests are now deserts. Swamps are now climate neutral. Make the videos happy not full of dread.
I’m a travel advisor who specializes in Hawaii and feel a deep connection to the culture. When the US required the negative COVID test to return from foreign travel, travelers looked for domestic destinations that eliminated the chance of getting “stuck”. Costco, hotel chains, and airlines played off that fear and people who would normally visit Mexican all inclusives or cheap cruises flocked to your shores. It has been hard to watch. I hope for sanity to return soon! Aloha!
That’s a good observation. My wife & I are well into our 70s & have visited Hawaii dozens of times, as well as Europe. I have traveled further – to Asia & the Middle East. I get a flu shot every year (including COVID + the booster) My wife never got a shot past grade school. So last year she declared she will only go to Hawaii due to int’l crime. But, she got the shots because she was afraid she’d have trouble returning to the mainland after our annual trip to Waikiki. More like her??
I have visited Hawaii many times (from California), including last summer during COVID (to Hanalei). I enjoy my time there very much. I am friendly to the humans and respectful of nature. I had hoped to take a work-related trip to Kaneohe this summer, for the arrival of the Pacific Cup sailboat race from San Francisco, but I feel that I can simply can no longer afford travel in Hawaii.
10 to 1. There in lies the problem. Those of us who live here have really been impacted because of that huge number. Before the pandemic, things we better because staffing at places we (residents) like to go (restaurants), were crowded but because all of these businesses were fully staffed it wasn’t a problem.
Now, because businesses are not fully staffed anywhere (this is a worldwide problem) it makes those of us who live here and pay taxes feel like they are being over run.
Mahalo
It isn’t really 10 to 1. On any given day, there is 1 visitor for every 2-3 residents. When you add all the days and all the visitors together over the entire year, that’s when you get 10 to 1. The important number is how many visitors there are *at any given time*.
The ideal according to the Maui Island Plan is 30% visitors. Right now it is more like 40% visitors, so it’s not ideal. They are working on this at the county level.
Hopefully, you don’t like amusement parks. If fee’s are what’s needed to keep that sentiment off the islands…keep bringing them on! I’ll gladly pay in order to keep entitlement off the islands….and I dont even live there.
..I’ll gladly pay in order to keep entitlement off the islands..”
What does that mean (entitlement)?
So, a family of 4 goes to Hanauma Bay which costs them $100. Do you think that is reasonable? Only those who are “entitled” can afford that once in a lifetime.
Other than keeping people away, what has it accomplished in concrete terms?
I love Hanauma Bay, first visited it in 1965. Sat through the video once, but won’t do that every time I want to visit.
What it means is that I am happy to pay fee’s on things that others construe as something that should be their “right” to do for free. Don’t get me wrong, just like the taxes we pay, the hope is that those dollars are being spent wisely for what is necessary.
Hanauma Bay is beautiful…if $100 for 4 balances out the money needed from keeping 6000 visitors out vs 1000, isn’t that better for maintaining that treasure? That’s the accomplishment.
“Hanauma Bay is beautiful…if $100 for 4 balances out the money needed from keeping 6000 visitors out vs 1000, isn’t that better for maintaining that treasure? That’s the accomplishment.”
Good question. What is the irrefutable evidence that’s the result and not just a govt claim? And, what about those 5,000 – should they miss the beautiful bay while 1,000 don’t.
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Diana
The “irrefutable evidence” is the fact that while closed to visitors during the pandemic, the fish and the bay regenerated from what it was with the tourists visiting. The planet is fragile, whether you choose to believe it or not. And the place is part of our home, not a playground. And, if you don’t believe me, google Haunama and Covid closures.
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Greg W
It’s rather obvious where each of our perspectives are coming from…you’re coming from the tourist side (visitor or local) and I’m coming from the environmental and preservation side.
You’re asking for “irrefutable ” evidence that isn’t a govmnt claim? That’s incredibly easy to answer and if you really cared, you’d know this…. the bay started t recover from overuse. We don’t need the govmnt or any other entity to tell us that less people was/is better. The bay told us through its recovery
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PatG
It’s such a same that people of lesser means will not be able to enjoy Hanauma Bay. Enjoyment of nature should not be based on how rich and entitled the visitor is.
Greg W
Patg….I do not disagree with you about people with lesser means not being able to enjoy the bay, however, it is far from being the only natural treasure on that island.
Have the last couple of years not taught (again, as usual, education is key here…) all of us that a lower # of visitors has enabled that treasure to “live and breath” again like the living entity that it is? If we’re going to keep throwing around the word “entitlement,” then what entitlement should the bay have?
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Joe K
It’s not about those with lesser means not seeing nature, it is a way to limit the destructive nature of people. I have never visited Hanauma Bay and not seen several people walking on the coral even after the video. Money or status does not determine level of stupidity. Control this at any means or cost.
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PatG
I understand what you are saying about limiting numbers of people to the infrastructure that can support the number. That makes sense, but there are different ways of accomplishing that. It can be controlled by a different means other than fees. For instance, there could be a lottery of 1000 tickets. First come, first served, on any given day. Much more equitable than shutting out people of limited means.
Diana
Regardless of the number of visitors, there are fixed costs of maintaining the place. Let’s say it cost 6K per month, just for ease of math. If 6K people visit at 1 dollar each, it is a zero sum game. If 1000 people visit at one dollar each, it nets a 5K loss. So, that money, to your mind, should come from residents, so you can have your tourist experience? No, residents should not be funding your vacation.
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PatG
I don’t know where you got the idea that residents fund tourists’ vacations. Tourists pay through the nose in taxes to enjoy the state during the short time that they are here. Piling on more fees for them is elitist and exclusionary.
Rod W
Greg,
I hear what you’re saying in your several posts. Allow me to ask this question.
Let’s say limiting visitors saves/restores some of nature’s fragile environment. Then why charge, why not limit. Why not put a limit that approximates the visitor count from 1950 or 1960 or 1970? Because the fee part is little more than a money grab. Especially if it only or mostly applies to tourists.
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Greg W
Rod
Well….if we can bring back the value of the dollar from late 1900’s, then your point has value. But since we can’t, then it’s suffice to say that argument won’t work.
I don’t deny that there is misuse of govmnt funds (where isn’t there?) but a complete “cashgrab?”
It’s not like I’m all about fee’s….I’m like most…I dispise them unless I know what the intent is. I’ve been lucky to have traveled all throughout the US…Hawaii is hardly the only place to provide a locals discount.
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Rod W
Greg,
There’s no Reply button on your last reply.
I don’t see the comparison of headcount to inflation.
Have a good weekend!
Maureen
Fees may help, but only education will be effective. Everyone should read up on Hawaii history to try and understand both sides. Also, isn’t having cash to pay fees the true definition of entitlement?
It’s not as if it should be one vs the other…both education and fees have their place in preservation. Since I, like many, must save my hard earned money to enjoy vacations, how does that make me and others like me “entitled,” when I understand (and hope) that such fees and regulation are meant to preserve a living entity for those who are lucky enough to come after me?
“…when I understand (and hope) that such fees and regulation are meant to preserve a living entity for those who are lucky enough to come after me?”
I just don’t think the fees have anything to do with preservation. One writer suggested a lottery system. That might work if vacationers were considered when developing a fair lottery system. Would they have to arrive before they could be part of the lottery? Or could they join the lottery during their vacation planning from home?
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Rod W
Greg,
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And, whenever I see round numbers, like 1,000/day, I know it’s b/s. Why not 1027 or 2359 or…
So, first, determine a “safe” number of visitors per day, then allocate (based on historical patterns) a certain number of visitor passes to residents and put the rest of the daily allowable visitor count in a lottery that’s open to all, including Hawaiin residents.
None of this $25/day/person money grab.
Greg W
“All proceeds from entrance fees go toward maintenance, education and research, city officials said.” per HPR.
Not that city officials, politicians, or state funded entities are complete beacons of truth, but that’s somewhat clear as to where that money is going. I’m all for an efficient system that allows for a positive interaction with natural wonders but bo matter the plan,I’m not naive to believe that that plan will not come without a cost..
Deb
My husband and I have typically traveled to the islands once a year for a week. This cost us around $4000. We were always respectful and followed all the rules. The same trip is now $8500. We won’t be back for awhile until the price gouging stops, if ever. We will miss the aloha.
Please, talk to the multinational corporations paying little US taxes about price gouging. People spend upwards of 1K a night for a condo, and then complain about an entry fee to a state park. The majority of the “gouging” you discuss is never seen by residents.
Here is the real issue when it comes to tourism to Hawaii. That is “what type of tourism do we want?” Believe it or not, there are a varied amount of “ways of tourism” that are practiced throughout the world. From the FIT, which is literally what the Hawaii tourist is, to the much more limited resort-focused tourist, we have to figure out, before making any other decisions, what type of tourism do we as residents want. We’ve been asking ourselves of this for the last 60 years, with no answer yet
What makes you think you have the right to determine what “type” of tourist comes to the islands? Like it or not, this is a free country. Everyone has the right to visit any state they want. Everyone also has the responsibility to treat every state with respect for the lands and the people.
I think he’s speaking quite literally. He’s saying residents need to figure out the type of visitors they desire, and then make decisions based on that, as if that were fair, or even possible.
Picture yourself as, say, a Californian, whose relatives have lived in California for hundreds of years. And then you go onto social media and say “We’ve been trying to figure out for 50 years what type of visitor we want here”. That would sound ridiculous in any other place but Hawaii.
No, it wouldn’t. Learn more about the different models of tourism practiced throughout the world.
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PatG
I know the different models of tourism. Please do not presume.
Seems locals in Hawaii want the type of tourist that enjoys being confined to inclusive resorts, rather than the type of tourist who is a FIT. I still maintain that it is neither possible nor proper to believe that the locals of any state can control the type of tourist that visits the state. That would be akin to controlling race or sex or any other demonstrable trait.
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PatG
The fundamental problem lies in behaviors manifested by both locals and visitors. If all visitors were peaceful and respectful, and if the visitor count were somehow controlled to be within the confines of what can be supported by current infrastructure, these types of conflicts would be minimal.
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SD
Maybe Hawaii should see what Tahoe, CA just did. They reduced the amount of airBnB permits and are not allowing anymore dwellings within the program. Non locals were spending their Bay Area and so cal dollars on second and third investment houses jacking up the prices and then turning them into vrbo’s, leaving locals with no way to afford to buy a house or even rent one. Locals pushed on their government to do something and they finally did. It’s a first step of many to come hopefully. Balance.
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PatG
Maui is already working on this. There is a bill up for discussion in the Planned and Sustainable Land Use Committee of the Maui County Council to apply caps to both STR and hotel units. Plus there is currently a 2-year moratorium on the building and opening of new STR and hotels, to be rescinded when there is a consensus on a plan to mitigate over-tourism. We’ll see how all that goes.
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Dennis O
I have only had the privilege of visiting Hawaii once, so far. The people are wonderful, they gave me the feeling that they knew something I didn’t. I was taken by the amount of respect they showed us, which in turn made me just as respectful. I would love to visit this beautiful place again, the feeling of peace that it gave us all we took home with us.
My daughter is an avid tik tok user. She tells me that there are numerous Hawaiian tik tokkers asking white people to stay away.When I mention visiting the Islands, she becomes indignant saying that I am disrespecting the Hawaiian people. We have visited Hawaii 8 times in the last 20 years. We are very respectful of the people and the environment. We buy locally produced food and we do not encroach on sacred spaces. What is the truth here? Are we truly unwelcome?
Yes, you & I are unwelcome by those who post those remarks.
I think most people in the hospitality industry are happy to see us.
Some minority of the folks wish we would stay home & most probably don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other.
If we stay away, we hurt all Hawaiians, not just the haters. So, continue to go & you will have a mostly good experience. But keep this in mind – the Aloha spirit is found in other tourist destinations, especially in Mexico & the Caribbean.
I love my Kauai home and extending the Aloha Spirit to all who respect others. When you come with Aloha in your heart, you are most welcomed.
After nearly a decade away from the beautiful North shore due to the number of visitors causing overcrowded parking and traffic congestion in rural towns, the shuttle and day pass system makes it possible for our family to enjoy it once again, alongside of our visitors. More visitor education is needed to welcome you warmly and help clarify expectations.
There is a small minority that would like no tourists. They are the loudest online. I have never had anything but aloha when I’ve actually come to the islands. Unfortunately, the small minority that would like no tourists don’t understand what the absence of tourism would do to them without government assistance.
MIKE… Can’t find your comment that was recently distributed – “Hawaii is unfriendly. They will smile up front, but watch your back. They are interested in your money, not in people.” – but what you had to say says more about you than it does about Hawaii’s people. If you really have experienced what this comment implies, you are the one who is being unfriendly, demanding and $$$-oriented! If you truly feel this way, please don’t come back!
I actually purchased an item at Kona markets which, after the stallholder asked me where we were from, once I said Australia, she said “Oh no, I cannot sell that to you, it will not get through your customs.” That tells me 100% she was not just interested in $$$. She could have easily just sold it to me, knowing it would not be allowed back in through my customs. Such honesty is very hard to find.
So, my experience is, it depends on how out of place you look. If you’re blonde or ginger, best to really dress down and not be extroverted in your tone.
A lot like visiting South America, but much safer in many ways. If the local dudes would do better by their women (not stare at other women), maybe this would be better? Not sure, but being blonde here is a totally different experience.
Try to blend in, but know it just is what it is and don’t think “fair” (excuse the pun) is gonna happen.
BLONDE… Totally disagree!!! We’ve been to Kauai 44 times and to the other islands another 4 times. I am as blonde as you can get (white blonde) and the only time I’ve ever had a reaction was people (local and visitor) loving the fact that a “blonde” dances hula better than some local residents!
Sorry you feel that way, but I am as white as they come and have no money. I see things very different. It maybe they just don’t like the way you project yourself. I have been coming to the Islands for years and have lots of local friends that except me and consider me Ohana. I have more issues with the non-local visitors than locals. Come here and except rather than expect. Life will change I promise.
What you said says more about you than it does about Hawaii’s people. If you really have experienced what this comment implies, you are the one who is being unfriendly, demanding and $$$-oriented! If you truly feel this way, please don’t come back!
Hi Mike. Hawai’i’s local people really are friendly, loving, and sharing. The poorly-paying travel industry forces folks into focusing more on money than we would like. We do our best to help everyone have a good time, all while not being able to afford the very experience we are perpetuating.
Hello, I’m hoping someone can give me some advice. I am wanting to visit Hawaii in the spring, I have never been. I have seen a lot about locals not wanting tourist and also people saying that the island relays a lot on tourism. I respect the islands and the people. I would like to learn more about the islands culture and history. I am hoping to also get involved in the community while on my trip there. Do u think it’s a good idea to plan my visit or should I hold off another year or so?
BRENDA E… Go For It! You’ll never know what a year will bring both for you and for the islands. If you have a smile and love of the culture, you will be welcomed with open arms!
Go now. Aloha is hard to maintain with hordes of visitors. The sooner you go, the more authentic and less diluted your experience will be. Our 15 visits span 40 years, , and the change continues
Definitely come and visit the islands. Visit more than one island if you have the time and ability…you’ll need ten days to do two island properly. Do some research on each of the main islands and see which island and what features suit you. Each island has vast differences and will create varied and remarkably different vacations.
Whatever island or island you choose…come. Start with a smile probably all of the people that you encounter will be very gracious and treat you as a valued guest.
We are from Clearwater, Fl. Our little area, right on the beach, is inundated almost all year long with tourists. But like Hawaii, many people depend on that industry for their livelihoods. When we first visited the Big Island, we paid special attention to the more obscure archeological and historical sites, and hired locals to show us places and explain the background and significance. We learned so much on that trip, and saw many places most tourists never even know about. Be respectful!
We stayed at the Hyatt Regency in Maui. Behind it is very old graveyard the carvings on the headstones had been weathered over the years some had been recemented together while others were piles of rocks. Across the road there was a surf shop. People would go to the surf shop and pay the cemetery no attention. 12-25-2021 came and no one paid respects to the cemetery. I knew that all their Ancestors were gone . My heart broke😢, I picked flowers and placed them on as many graves as possible ❤️❤️
Regardless where we go, we should behave as though we are guests in someone’s home. Respect, good humor and a hearty “thanks” go a long way. We have cultural differences on the mainland, too! We need to learn about each other. How about a small set of flyers to pop in a tourist’s purchase bag about history, customs and traditions? Several could be available each covering a single topic: What is a luau really for? The history of the hula. What is “malama.” Informative and educational.
The problem with this thinking is that it ignores the history of how Hawaii became part of the US. It was not by choice. Hawaii was a sovereign nation that our military overthrew and illegaly occupied. While imprisoning their leader for 8 years.
Well, truly the US took lands from Mexico and the American Indians as well. The past we cannot change. We just all need to learn how to live with love, respect, and mercy to all. We need to stop acting like we are entitled. After all, we all don’t own the earth nor the land. God does.
I am going to Kauai in February for the 7th time ( first time since losing my wonderful husband). I ( we) have always enjoyed the people and interacting with them, but were raised to be kind and respect everyone. As I am doing this comment, one of our daughters and husband and children are in the Air headed to Kauai! I love it there and am so anxious to return. I am sure a lot is changed as my last trip there was January 2012. If any of you get a chance to visit you won’t be sorry. ALOHA!
Have visited these beautiful islands
many times. All of us need to respect the beauty here and take some time to learn about customs and traditions
Leave it better than you found it.
Greetings,
We live in Manhattan, KS, and were planning to visit Kauai Jan. 25th-Feb.8th, however, due to increased Covid cases we are thinking of postponing our trip. Can you give us some current info on the situation in Kauai and the travel restrictions for entering Kauai?
Thank you,
Ken and Pat E.
There are plenty of visitors here on Kauai so you definitely will not be alone. There are no island-based restrictions here. You need to comply with Hawaii Safe Travel to come to Hawaii. Otherwise, if hotels or restaurants want to implement restrictions such as requiring proof of vaccination, that is up to them. We encountered two such situations recently.
The truth is, during the peak of covid’s lockdown, Hawaii’s residents, got a taste of what island life was like without tourism.
Beaches were empty and extremely enjoyable. There was virtually no traffic. Commuting was a breeze. People, in general were kind to one another and communities pulled together in support. Aloha was real.
Since tourism returned, our beaches are over packed, traffic is a sea of red, residents have little patience and it’s all about dollars.Sad.
I recently went to HI for the first time and stayed on Oahu (Waikiki) and Maui (Kihei). Generally, my experience was positive. Everyone I interacted with on Oahu was pleasant, minus an Uber driver who yelled at me as I crossed the street in Waikiki. Not sure what that was about. As for Maui, it seems like there is a bit more skeptism. People were largely silent until they got to know me. Once they realized I’m polite and respectful, they warmed up. Note: I didn’t go to Hana.
That said, I can see both sides. On one hand, many visitors are rude, arrogant, act with a sense of entitlement, trample over private land, and defecate on private property. COVID probably made this behavior worse. On the other hand, locals shouldn’t assume all vacationers are the same. Like the old saying goes, “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.” Without tourism, there is no tourism $$$. And for a state almost entirely dependent on tourism, that would wreak havoc on your way of life.
There are way too many pedestrian/car accidents in Waikiki, and they usually end badly for the pedestrian. This is due partly to pedestrians not using crosswalks safely/properly or at all, as well as confusing lanes for one way traffic leading to frustrated/distracted divers, some really aggressive/impatient drivers plus international visitors not used to US driving patterns/rules. There is also a stiff penalty for jaywalking, when I lived there about a decade ago it was $103.
It is nice to meet new people, sometimes. One speaks about shared experiences, different experiences, you learn about each other and get to know another human. Between 8 and 15 thousand people arrive every day. I cannot meet all these people. I cannot even see them as humans when they are in such numbers. I usually stay away. An industry that feeds just about 20% back into our island should not require double or more of the population here rooting around for a unique experience. Save us from thi
We have been coming to Hawaii for some years from Australia. Kauai is our favorite, I think because of the chilled vibe and great coffee from Kapaa…lol
We have only ever had problems with rude, ignorent, disrespectful mainland US tourists. They think they are better then everyone else. You’re a visitor and should show some respect.
We come to Hawaii because we love how different it is and to appreciate and learn about the local culture. I only wish we could live there and be able to give ba
I live in Puna. I have no problem with anyone normally. But I had an altercation with gentleman in Kona over a poolside lounge chair my wife had left to use the restroom. This guy immediately sat down making himself at home. I said, excuse me,my wife is sitting there. He replied, she left it’s my chair now. Sir she be right back. All you people are the same, stupid. My cousin grabbed me,sayin it not worth it. Hotel staff heard and made him get up. No respect or honor. Just a clown.
Kimo…our country is in crisis because of politics and it’s bringing out the worst in some. Best example is the guy who called in to President Biden when he was taking calls about Santa for the kids and snuck in an adults only slur. His subsequent actions proved how sick some people have become. Remember most people are not like that. Focus on the good people…your cuz was right.
Here in Utah, we have a similar situation with our national parks and visitors. We jokingly say we wish the visitors would stay away and leave the parks just to us! But we count on the tourism dollars so we put up with the inconvenience. However, there is never room for anyone to be rude, disrespectful, unlawful or insensitive. For those reasons, whenever we visit Hawaii, we try to learn about and respect the culture, drive courteously, and generally be aware of our surroundings and our impact
Our daughter is attending U of H at Manoa. She has not been able to come visit us during COVID due to quarantine rules in the dorms. We normally travel to visit her 1-2 times per year. We last traveled in 2020 and decided on a quiet stay in a condo in the locals town of Makaha. We were warned that the locals may not appreciate us staying in their town. We had the opposite experience. We shopped in local grocery stores and were treated very kindly.
My 1st visit to Hawaii was 1984 and now live on the Islands. How I see things. The majority of locals and visitors are great people. The visitors love the Islands people, Aloha and culture. The Locals are great, they are friendly and open to share their culture. They also understand that Hawaii’s economy is based on tourism (not totally). Let’s address the minority. Visitor/local feel are owed something or are better than others. They are rude and disrespectful. Each gets their own bad rap.
Great article, very well written for both sides. We live in a tiny tourist town that has seen record numbers in 2021. In a town of only about 2000 population, we welcomed over 2 million visitors this year. You won’t find anyone complaining about good business, including me, I own a business myself. As owners on the North Shore of Kauai, we sadly feel we will never be going back due to the draconian measures to keep visitors away, not only due to the pandemic, but also charges & tourist limit
Btw BOH crew, Hawaiian Air’s “Travel Pono” video is similar to these two and
excellent…. Some people here may be getting the impression Hawaii is a lot less tolerant then it really is.
Funny thing, if you only read the Internet it seems like there’s a lot of unpleasant people in the world. Then when you get out in the real world
most people are great.
Aloha
I imagine most of the residents who are seemingly rude in comments on posts are not leaving their homes much due to the pandemic so they are not the ones you will meet while you are out and about!
Agree. They are afraid of Tourists disease now. Travelers don’t understand the fear. They don’t see our local government blaming and punishing us for the disease.
You will only meet those who have to meet you due to jobs in hospitality, and other tourists, many who come with expectations that because they are spending their money here that they decide what should happen in our home. We read it here continually, people from other places telling us what is wrong with our state.
I have read many comments from longtime returning visitors of Hawaii that all state the same thing, (if things in Hawaii don’t change, they will vacation elsewhere). As a small business owner I know that repeat customers are critical to the business and keeping your customer happy makes them want to come back. Like it or not Hawaii survives on tourism. There are many other travel options that are also less costly and I will be choosing those going forward. Hawaii has lost my business.
Aloha Curt. Understand your point, but most of those comments are from those who prefer to grumble. No need to worry about pono returning and new visitors. We live in a unique archipelago unlike any other in the world. That’s the reason Hawaii will always have visitors.
I’ve been a regular visitor to the islands for over 50 years. First time, the entire summer of ’58; next trip, coming February. Even as a goofy teenager and to this minute, I’ve always understood that courtesy and a smile will get you everywhere. Different culture, different places. Understand that now the islands, like everywhere else, are trying to emerge from a debilitating economic and physical period. Slow down and try to understand that concept and you will get along just fine.
Aloha from your British Columbian friends.
My wife and I have visited Kauai since 2013. We also spent time in 2017 and 2018.
We respect the Island and the people who live there, same not so much for some of the local people.
One incident was at Salt Pond Beach, at the east side of the beach. The 2 of us were quiet and spending a calm peaceful afternoon when a group came and literally pushed us out of the area by backing their vehicles up 3 feet away from us, cranked the tunes and party starts
I am a part-timer as my family lives on the B.I. I completely feel the same as the locals. I live on a much smaller island (Key West) and we have many of these problems with visitors. I understand that they are keeping our service industry’s alive but what a price we pay. Most, not all, show little or no respect for our homes. They disrespect the locals, throw trash in our waters and harass our wildlife. Perhaps it’s time visitors learn respect towards those of us who are not on vacation.
Great comments Gloria. Not only should some people learn to respect the locals, their culture, and the environment, but should learn to respect the rest of the tourist who try hard to not feel like they are entitled to act anyway they want. On the other side of the coin, I also feel that some of the locals need to set a better example so that we can all learn from one another.
The problem with asking the HTA is they are biased toward showing a positive view of Hawaii and how we supposedly want more people to visit.
Money rarely flows to the poorer communities and corporations only flow a fraction of money back into the hands of residents while the government abuses/squanders the tax money gained. Fewer corporations and more mom and pop shops where tourists could meet the locals would likely benefit the residents. The number of visitors is also not sustainable.
You make a good point John.
There’s too much money spent on tourism. I believe it was 3 billion!? The money earned needs to be divided/subdivided to include larger portions to the homeless and not on tourism.
Out the pocket thoughts are to make more money and invite more tourism but it’s really not needed. None of the islands are booking because of an ad from Hawaii magazines. Hawaii is a brand. Everyone wants to go!
Lynn your view will create bigger issues. Dumping money into homelessness is a waste and will not solve the homeless problem. Look at Seattle, they spend about $100 k a year per person. More money means more homeless and more problems. More homeless is a way to cut down on tourism and it will make Hawaii unwanted by those with money (Seattle is an example). When I lived in Washington, we would visit Seattle a couple of times a year. It became unsafe to do a concert, ball game or just visit.
Posters keep on about the number of tourists and their economic affect on “residents”. Some thought needs to be given to malahinis and mainlanders buying properties as second homes or rental income. These drive up property prices and the cost of living and generate less revenue than tourists. Kama’ainas, people of the land who are tge real locals need more consuderation.
Welcome to Earth my friend. It’s happening in every desirable location. California real estate prices have been out of control for decades. Utah, Florida, parts of Texas, etc… it’s not just happening in Hawaii. Sad but true. It’s individuals, yes, but it’s also corporations and , dare I say, the Chinese.
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Can you leave other races out of your comments? I would think that every person has the right to live how they want and where they want. Didn’t America state, ” Give us your poor huddle mass….” Every person is always looking for a better life.
Lindy
Uncalled for! Especially in Hawaii and other Pacific location states. How do you like them [pine]apples, eh? The one thing I love is how Much more tolerant that most people who live in Hawaii are. Bigotry is not something I find to be an admirable concept.
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For at least 25 years, officials here have talked about how HI is uniquely positioned to develop other industries than tourism, industries that could benefit from our timezone between the mainland and Asia. But talk is it, despite us experiencing the collapse of the yen, 911, and covid and their impact They spend more $ and bring it back. The best thing that could happen would be tourism to dry up and force the development of better paying and less environmentally harmful industries.
Careful there. Remember the past introduction of private sector “solutions”? You know, things like sugar? You no doubt have a point about island time development, but outside of entertainment, military and tourism, Hawaii is a small atol 3000 miles from anywhere. While remote working works well, that doesn’t mean companies are rushing to pay higher ages and move to a state that challenges California real estate prices.
I think the videos are fine.
I know a good bit about dealing w/tourists, having lived so close to WDW I heard the fireworks daily. I also worked for the Mouse for a long time. Bottom line IMO? Treat people with kindness & respect, & almost every time it will be returned.. I’m my observation, it’s entitled behaviors that really turn off locals. In Hawaii, Florida, or wherever.
Aloha,
Personally, I could care less how I’m treated by locals. I wouldn’t expect them to be “tour guides.” I respect people, nature, law, ordinances, wherever I vacation. Hawaii isn’t the only place in the US “overwhelmed” with tourists… many places in OR, WA, CA are in the same boat short staffing, trashy tourists, littering, not respectful to wildlife. Hawaii isn’t unique in that aspect. Hawaii is a tourist destination, it is marketed a such. Tourists are what the state thrives on. Mahalo!
I have been to wonderful Kauai 8 times and as recently as this past December.
I have never been treated poorly by locals!!
I love Kauai and its Aloha spirit.
The only problem I have personally witnessed with visitors is them getting far too close to turtles and seals on the beach or in the water even after being asked to keep a distance.
I dreamt of Hawaii since a child, & found it even more lovely. I love hula kahiko, Olelo, the music, & attend local fundraisers. I find the people gracious. A favorite memory is arriving in Kahului Harbor on the Disney Wonder: I was so ecstatic to be back on my beloved Maui, I practically skipped off the ship into the Port building, & w/arms open, said, “thank you for sharing your beautiful island w/us!”! The older woman/Port employee grabbed me & gave me such a hug!! A treasured Aloha moment!
Aloha! I wish Hawaii Tourism would create a short little video that could play on airplanes to educate people about e.g.; respecting wildlife especially the sea turtles and seals; ocean/water safety; A brief history of the islands; how tourism can affect fragile ecosystems; and ending with positive aloha vibes of welcome. I think a lot of visitors just don’t know about many of these things…Education and information Are key. You are right, Hawaii tourism get a D rating in Communication!
Nina, Google Hawaiian Air’s “Travel Pono” video. I think you’ll like it.
I think Aloha needs to be taught in Hawaiian schools – its history, its charm & its place in modern society.
And, all aircraft & boats arriving in Hawaii – need a more thorough video of Hawaii, Aloha & what’s important to most Hawaiians & how visitors should behave. But please avoid the subject of Climate Change – the climate has been making epic changes for the entire history of the earth. Old forests are now deserts. Swamps are now climate neutral. Make the videos happy not full of dread.
I’m a travel advisor who specializes in Hawaii and feel a deep connection to the culture. When the US required the negative COVID test to return from foreign travel, travelers looked for domestic destinations that eliminated the chance of getting “stuck”. Costco, hotel chains, and airlines played off that fear and people who would normally visit Mexican all inclusives or cheap cruises flocked to your shores. It has been hard to watch. I hope for sanity to return soon! Aloha!
Hi Lisa,
That’s a good observation. My wife & I are well into our 70s & have visited Hawaii dozens of times, as well as Europe. I have traveled further – to Asia & the Middle East. I get a flu shot every year (including COVID + the booster) My wife never got a shot past grade school. So last year she declared she will only go to Hawaii due to int’l crime. But, she got the shots because she was afraid she’d have trouble returning to the mainland after our annual trip to Waikiki. More like her??
Especially so with the Blue Planes!
I have visited Hawaii many times (from California), including last summer during COVID (to Hanalei). I enjoy my time there very much. I am friendly to the humans and respectful of nature. I had hoped to take a work-related trip to Kaneohe this summer, for the arrival of the Pacific Cup sailboat race from San Francisco, but I feel that I can simply can no longer afford travel in Hawaii.
We live in Hawaii and can’t afford to staycation here. lol
10 to 1. There in lies the problem. Those of us who live here have really been impacted because of that huge number. Before the pandemic, things we better because staffing at places we (residents) like to go (restaurants), were crowded but because all of these businesses were fully staffed it wasn’t a problem.
Now, because businesses are not fully staffed anywhere (this is a worldwide problem) it makes those of us who live here and pay taxes feel like they are being over run.
Mahalo
It isn’t really 10 to 1. On any given day, there is 1 visitor for every 2-3 residents. When you add all the days and all the visitors together over the entire year, that’s when you get 10 to 1. The important number is how many visitors there are *at any given time*.
The ideal according to the Maui Island Plan is 30% visitors. Right now it is more like 40% visitors, so it’s not ideal. They are working on this at the county level.
If Hawaii doesn’t want to feel like an amusement park, then forget amusement-like fees and permits.
And, the cost of fees and permits, if imposed against better judgment, should be the same for Hawaiians and all other Americans.
Hopefully, you don’t like amusement parks. If fee’s are what’s needed to keep that sentiment off the islands…keep bringing them on! I’ll gladly pay in order to keep entitlement off the islands….and I dont even live there.
Greg,
..I’ll gladly pay in order to keep entitlement off the islands..”
What does that mean (entitlement)?
So, a family of 4 goes to Hanauma Bay which costs them $100. Do you think that is reasonable? Only those who are “entitled” can afford that once in a lifetime.
Other than keeping people away, what has it accomplished in concrete terms?
I love Hanauma Bay, first visited it in 1965. Sat through the video once, but won’t do that every time I want to visit.
What it means is that I am happy to pay fee’s on things that others construe as something that should be their “right” to do for free. Don’t get me wrong, just like the taxes we pay, the hope is that those dollars are being spent wisely for what is necessary.
Hanauma Bay is beautiful…if $100 for 4 balances out the money needed from keeping 6000 visitors out vs 1000, isn’t that better for maintaining that treasure? That’s the accomplishment.
Greg,
“Hanauma Bay is beautiful…if $100 for 4 balances out the money needed from keeping 6000 visitors out vs 1000, isn’t that better for maintaining that treasure? That’s the accomplishment.”
Good question. What is the irrefutable evidence that’s the result and not just a govt claim? And, what about those 5,000 – should they miss the beautiful bay while 1,000 don’t.
The “irrefutable evidence” is the fact that while closed to visitors during the pandemic, the fish and the bay regenerated from what it was with the tourists visiting. The planet is fragile, whether you choose to believe it or not. And the place is part of our home, not a playground. And, if you don’t believe me, google Haunama and Covid closures.
It’s rather obvious where each of our perspectives are coming from…you’re coming from the tourist side (visitor or local) and I’m coming from the environmental and preservation side.
You’re asking for “irrefutable ” evidence that isn’t a govmnt claim? That’s incredibly easy to answer and if you really cared, you’d know this…. the bay started t recover from overuse. We don’t need the govmnt or any other entity to tell us that less people was/is better. The bay told us through its recovery
It’s such a same that people of lesser means will not be able to enjoy Hanauma Bay. Enjoyment of nature should not be based on how rich and entitled the visitor is.
Patg….I do not disagree with you about people with lesser means not being able to enjoy the bay, however, it is far from being the only natural treasure on that island.
Have the last couple of years not taught (again, as usual, education is key here…) all of us that a lower # of visitors has enabled that treasure to “live and breath” again like the living entity that it is? If we’re going to keep throwing around the word “entitlement,” then what entitlement should the bay have?
It’s not about those with lesser means not seeing nature, it is a way to limit the destructive nature of people. I have never visited Hanauma Bay and not seen several people walking on the coral even after the video. Money or status does not determine level of stupidity. Control this at any means or cost.
I understand what you are saying about limiting numbers of people to the infrastructure that can support the number. That makes sense, but there are different ways of accomplishing that. It can be controlled by a different means other than fees. For instance, there could be a lottery of 1000 tickets. First come, first served, on any given day. Much more equitable than shutting out people of limited means.
Regardless of the number of visitors, there are fixed costs of maintaining the place. Let’s say it cost 6K per month, just for ease of math. If 6K people visit at 1 dollar each, it is a zero sum game. If 1000 people visit at one dollar each, it nets a 5K loss. So, that money, to your mind, should come from residents, so you can have your tourist experience? No, residents should not be funding your vacation.
I don’t know where you got the idea that residents fund tourists’ vacations. Tourists pay through the nose in taxes to enjoy the state during the short time that they are here. Piling on more fees for them is elitist and exclusionary.
Greg,
I hear what you’re saying in your several posts. Allow me to ask this question.
Let’s say limiting visitors saves/restores some of nature’s fragile environment. Then why charge, why not limit. Why not put a limit that approximates the visitor count from 1950 or 1960 or 1970? Because the fee part is little more than a money grab. Especially if it only or mostly applies to tourists.
Rod
Well….if we can bring back the value of the dollar from late 1900’s, then your point has value. But since we can’t, then it’s suffice to say that argument won’t work.
I don’t deny that there is misuse of govmnt funds (where isn’t there?) but a complete “cashgrab?”
It’s not like I’m all about fee’s….I’m like most…I dispise them unless I know what the intent is. I’ve been lucky to have traveled all throughout the US…Hawaii is hardly the only place to provide a locals discount.
Greg,
There’s no Reply button on your last reply.
I don’t see the comparison of headcount to inflation.
Have a good weekend!
Fees may help, but only education will be effective. Everyone should read up on Hawaii history to try and understand both sides. Also, isn’t having cash to pay fees the true definition of entitlement?
It’s not as if it should be one vs the other…both education and fees have their place in preservation. Since I, like many, must save my hard earned money to enjoy vacations, how does that make me and others like me “entitled,” when I understand (and hope) that such fees and regulation are meant to preserve a living entity for those who are lucky enough to come after me?
Greg,
“…when I understand (and hope) that such fees and regulation are meant to preserve a living entity for those who are lucky enough to come after me?”
I just don’t think the fees have anything to do with preservation. One writer suggested a lottery system. That might work if vacationers were considered when developing a fair lottery system. Would they have to arrive before they could be part of the lottery? Or could they join the lottery during their vacation planning from home?
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Greg,
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And, whenever I see round numbers, like 1,000/day, I know it’s b/s. Why not 1027 or 2359 or…
So, first, determine a “safe” number of visitors per day, then allocate (based on historical patterns) a certain number of visitor passes to residents and put the rest of the daily allowable visitor count in a lottery that’s open to all, including Hawaiin residents.
None of this $25/day/person money grab.
“All proceeds from entrance fees go toward maintenance, education and research, city officials said.” per HPR.
Not that city officials, politicians, or state funded entities are complete beacons of truth, but that’s somewhat clear as to where that money is going. I’m all for an efficient system that allows for a positive interaction with natural wonders but bo matter the plan,I’m not naive to believe that that plan will not come without a cost..
My husband and I have typically traveled to the islands once a year for a week. This cost us around $4000. We were always respectful and followed all the rules. The same trip is now $8500. We won’t be back for awhile until the price gouging stops, if ever. We will miss the aloha.
Please, talk to the multinational corporations paying little US taxes about price gouging. People spend upwards of 1K a night for a condo, and then complain about an entry fee to a state park. The majority of the “gouging” you discuss is never seen by residents.
Here is the real issue when it comes to tourism to Hawaii. That is “what type of tourism do we want?” Believe it or not, there are a varied amount of “ways of tourism” that are practiced throughout the world. From the FIT, which is literally what the Hawaii tourist is, to the much more limited resort-focused tourist, we have to figure out, before making any other decisions, what type of tourism do we as residents want. We’ve been asking ourselves of this for the last 60 years, with no answer yet
What makes you think you have the right to determine what “type” of tourist comes to the islands? Like it or not, this is a free country. Everyone has the right to visit any state they want. Everyone also has the responsibility to treat every state with respect for the lands and the people.
I’m pretty sure that Stan was speaking figuratively and not literally. There is a much bigger context to his comment….
I think he’s speaking quite literally. He’s saying residents need to figure out the type of visitors they desire, and then make decisions based on that, as if that were fair, or even possible.
Picture yourself as, say, a Californian, whose relatives have lived in California for hundreds of years. And then you go onto social media and say “We’ve been trying to figure out for 50 years what type of visitor we want here”. That would sound ridiculous in any other place but Hawaii.
No, it wouldn’t. Learn more about the different models of tourism practiced throughout the world.
I know the different models of tourism. Please do not presume.
Seems locals in Hawaii want the type of tourist that enjoys being confined to inclusive resorts, rather than the type of tourist who is a FIT. I still maintain that it is neither possible nor proper to believe that the locals of any state can control the type of tourist that visits the state. That would be akin to controlling race or sex or any other demonstrable trait.
The fundamental problem lies in behaviors manifested by both locals and visitors. If all visitors were peaceful and respectful, and if the visitor count were somehow controlled to be within the confines of what can be supported by current infrastructure, these types of conflicts would be minimal.
Maybe Hawaii should see what Tahoe, CA just did. They reduced the amount of airBnB permits and are not allowing anymore dwellings within the program. Non locals were spending their Bay Area and so cal dollars on second and third investment houses jacking up the prices and then turning them into vrbo’s, leaving locals with no way to afford to buy a house or even rent one. Locals pushed on their government to do something and they finally did. It’s a first step of many to come hopefully. Balance.
Maui is already working on this. There is a bill up for discussion in the Planned and Sustainable Land Use Committee of the Maui County Council to apply caps to both STR and hotel units. Plus there is currently a 2-year moratorium on the building and opening of new STR and hotels, to be rescinded when there is a consensus on a plan to mitigate over-tourism. We’ll see how all that goes.
I have only had the privilege of visiting Hawaii once, so far. The people are wonderful, they gave me the feeling that they knew something I didn’t. I was taken by the amount of respect they showed us, which in turn made me just as respectful. I would love to visit this beautiful place again, the feeling of peace that it gave us all we took home with us.
My daughter is an avid tik tok user. She tells me that there are numerous Hawaiian tik tokkers asking white people to stay away.When I mention visiting the Islands, she becomes indignant saying that I am disrespecting the Hawaiian people. We have visited Hawaii 8 times in the last 20 years. We are very respectful of the people and the environment. We buy locally produced food and we do not encroach on sacred spaces. What is the truth here? Are we truly unwelcome?
Yes, you & I are unwelcome by those who post those remarks.
I think most people in the hospitality industry are happy to see us.
Some minority of the folks wish we would stay home & most probably don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other.
If we stay away, we hurt all Hawaiians, not just the haters. So, continue to go & you will have a mostly good experience. But keep this in mind – the Aloha spirit is found in other tourist destinations, especially in Mexico & the Caribbean.
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I love my Kauai home and extending the Aloha Spirit to all who respect others. When you come with Aloha in your heart, you are most welcomed.
After nearly a decade away from the beautiful North shore due to the number of visitors causing overcrowded parking and traffic congestion in rural towns, the shuttle and day pass system makes it possible for our family to enjoy it once again, alongside of our visitors. More visitor education is needed to welcome you warmly and help clarify expectations.
There is a small minority that would like no tourists. They are the loudest online. I have never had anything but aloha when I’ve actually come to the islands. Unfortunately, the small minority that would like no tourists don’t understand what the absence of tourism would do to them without government assistance.
MIKE… Can’t find your comment that was recently distributed – “Hawaii is unfriendly. They will smile up front, but watch your back. They are interested in your money, not in people.” – but what you had to say says more about you than it does about Hawaii’s people. If you really have experienced what this comment implies, you are the one who is being unfriendly, demanding and $$$-oriented! If you truly feel this way, please don’t come back!
I actually purchased an item at Kona markets which, after the stallholder asked me where we were from, once I said Australia, she said “Oh no, I cannot sell that to you, it will not get through your customs.” That tells me 100% she was not just interested in $$$. She could have easily just sold it to me, knowing it would not be allowed back in through my customs. Such honesty is very hard to find.
So, my experience is, it depends on how out of place you look. If you’re blonde or ginger, best to really dress down and not be extroverted in your tone.
A lot like visiting South America, but much safer in many ways. If the local dudes would do better by their women (not stare at other women), maybe this would be better? Not sure, but being blonde here is a totally different experience.
Try to blend in, but know it just is what it is and don’t think “fair” (excuse the pun) is gonna happen.
BLONDE… Totally disagree!!! We’ve been to Kauai 44 times and to the other islands another 4 times. I am as blonde as you can get (white blonde) and the only time I’ve ever had a reaction was people (local and visitor) loving the fact that a “blonde” dances hula better than some local residents!
Hawaii is unfriendly. They will smile up front, but watch your back. They are interested in your money, not in people.
Mike,
Sorry you feel that way, but I am as white as they come and have no money. I see things very different. It maybe they just don’t like the way you project yourself. I have been coming to the Islands for years and have lots of local friends that except me and consider me Ohana. I have more issues with the non-local visitors than locals. Come here and except rather than expect. Life will change I promise.
MIKE…
What you said says more about you than it does about Hawaii’s people. If you really have experienced what this comment implies, you are the one who is being unfriendly, demanding and $$$-oriented! If you truly feel this way, please don’t come back!
Hi Mike. Hawai’i’s local people really are friendly, loving, and sharing. The poorly-paying travel industry forces folks into focusing more on money than we would like. We do our best to help everyone have a good time, all while not being able to afford the very experience we are perpetuating.
Hello, I’m hoping someone can give me some advice. I am wanting to visit Hawaii in the spring, I have never been. I have seen a lot about locals not wanting tourist and also people saying that the island relays a lot on tourism. I respect the islands and the people. I would like to learn more about the islands culture and history. I am hoping to also get involved in the community while on my trip there. Do u think it’s a good idea to plan my visit or should I hold off another year or so?
BRENDA E… Go For It! You’ll never know what a year will bring both for you and for the islands. If you have a smile and love of the culture, you will be welcomed with open arms!
Go now. Aloha is hard to maintain with hordes of visitors. The sooner you go, the more authentic and less diluted your experience will be. Our 15 visits span 40 years, , and the change continues
Definitely come and visit the islands. Visit more than one island if you have the time and ability…you’ll need ten days to do two island properly. Do some research on each of the main islands and see which island and what features suit you. Each island has vast differences and will create varied and remarkably different vacations.
Whatever island or island you choose…come. Start with a smile probably all of the people that you encounter will be very gracious and treat you as a valued guest.
We are from Clearwater, Fl. Our little area, right on the beach, is inundated almost all year long with tourists. But like Hawaii, many people depend on that industry for their livelihoods. When we first visited the Big Island, we paid special attention to the more obscure archeological and historical sites, and hired locals to show us places and explain the background and significance. We learned so much on that trip, and saw many places most tourists never even know about. Be respectful!
We stayed at the Hyatt Regency in Maui. Behind it is very old graveyard the carvings on the headstones had been weathered over the years some had been recemented together while others were piles of rocks. Across the road there was a surf shop. People would go to the surf shop and pay the cemetery no attention. 12-25-2021 came and no one paid respects to the cemetery. I knew that all their Ancestors were gone . My heart broke😢, I picked flowers and placed them on as many graves as possible ❤️❤️
Please don’t pick the flowers.
Regardless where we go, we should behave as though we are guests in someone’s home. Respect, good humor and a hearty “thanks” go a long way. We have cultural differences on the mainland, too! We need to learn about each other. How about a small set of flyers to pop in a tourist’s purchase bag about history, customs and traditions? Several could be available each covering a single topic: What is a luau really for? The history of the hula. What is “malama.” Informative and educational.
Sometimes I think Hawaii forgets it not it’s own country. We could take care of all of our country. It belongs to everyone.
So true equally for ALL means ALL
Hawaii was and should be its own country. Colonialism isn’t a legitimate claim to a people’s sovereignty.
The problem with this thinking is that it ignores the history of how Hawaii became part of the US. It was not by choice. Hawaii was a sovereign nation that our military overthrew and illegaly occupied. While imprisoning their leader for 8 years.
Well, truly the US took lands from Mexico and the American Indians as well. The past we cannot change. We just all need to learn how to live with love, respect, and mercy to all. We need to stop acting like we are entitled. After all, we all don’t own the earth nor the land. God does.
I am going to Kauai in February for the 7th time ( first time since losing my wonderful husband). I ( we) have always enjoyed the people and interacting with them, but were raised to be kind and respect everyone. As I am doing this comment, one of our daughters and husband and children are in the Air headed to Kauai! I love it there and am so anxious to return. I am sure a lot is changed as my last trip there was January 2012. If any of you get a chance to visit you won’t be sorry. ALOHA!
Have visited these beautiful islands
many times. All of us need to respect the beauty here and take some time to learn about customs and traditions
Leave it better than you found it.
Greetings,
We live in Manhattan, KS, and were planning to visit Kauai Jan. 25th-Feb.8th, however, due to increased Covid cases we are thinking of postponing our trip. Can you give us some current info on the situation in Kauai and the travel restrictions for entering Kauai?
Thank you,
Ken and Pat E.
Hi Ken.
There are plenty of visitors here on Kauai so you definitely will not be alone. There are no island-based restrictions here. You need to comply with Hawaii Safe Travel to come to Hawaii. Otherwise, if hotels or restaurants want to implement restrictions such as requiring proof of vaccination, that is up to them. We encountered two such situations recently.
Aloha.
The truth is, during the peak of covid’s lockdown, Hawaii’s residents, got a taste of what island life was like without tourism.
Beaches were empty and extremely enjoyable. There was virtually no traffic. Commuting was a breeze. People, in general were kind to one another and communities pulled together in support. Aloha was real.
Since tourism returned, our beaches are over packed, traffic is a sea of red, residents have little patience and it’s all about dollars.Sad.
I recently went to HI for the first time and stayed on Oahu (Waikiki) and Maui (Kihei). Generally, my experience was positive. Everyone I interacted with on Oahu was pleasant, minus an Uber driver who yelled at me as I crossed the street in Waikiki. Not sure what that was about. As for Maui, it seems like there is a bit more skeptism. People were largely silent until they got to know me. Once they realized I’m polite and respectful, they warmed up. Note: I didn’t go to Hana.
That said, I can see both sides. On one hand, many visitors are rude, arrogant, act with a sense of entitlement, trample over private land, and defecate on private property. COVID probably made this behavior worse. On the other hand, locals shouldn’t assume all vacationers are the same. Like the old saying goes, “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.” Without tourism, there is no tourism $$$. And for a state almost entirely dependent on tourism, that would wreak havoc on your way of life.
There are way too many pedestrian/car accidents in Waikiki, and they usually end badly for the pedestrian. This is due partly to pedestrians not using crosswalks safely/properly or at all, as well as confusing lanes for one way traffic leading to frustrated/distracted divers, some really aggressive/impatient drivers plus international visitors not used to US driving patterns/rules. There is also a stiff penalty for jaywalking, when I lived there about a decade ago it was $103.
It is nice to meet new people, sometimes. One speaks about shared experiences, different experiences, you learn about each other and get to know another human. Between 8 and 15 thousand people arrive every day. I cannot meet all these people. I cannot even see them as humans when they are in such numbers. I usually stay away. An industry that feeds just about 20% back into our island should not require double or more of the population here rooting around for a unique experience. Save us from thi
We have been coming to Hawaii for some years from Australia. Kauai is our favorite, I think because of the chilled vibe and great coffee from Kapaa…lol
We have only ever had problems with rude, ignorent, disrespectful mainland US tourists. They think they are better then everyone else. You’re a visitor and should show some respect.
We come to Hawaii because we love how different it is and to appreciate and learn about the local culture. I only wish we could live there and be able to give ba
I live in Puna. I have no problem with anyone normally. But I had an altercation with gentleman in Kona over a poolside lounge chair my wife had left to use the restroom. This guy immediately sat down making himself at home. I said, excuse me,my wife is sitting there. He replied, she left it’s my chair now. Sir she be right back. All you people are the same, stupid. My cousin grabbed me,sayin it not worth it. Hotel staff heard and made him get up. No respect or honor. Just a clown.
Kimo…our country is in crisis because of politics and it’s bringing out the worst in some. Best example is the guy who called in to President Biden when he was taking calls about Santa for the kids and snuck in an adults only slur. His subsequent actions proved how sick some people have become. Remember most people are not like that. Focus on the good people…your cuz was right.
Here in Utah, we have a similar situation with our national parks and visitors. We jokingly say we wish the visitors would stay away and leave the parks just to us! But we count on the tourism dollars so we put up with the inconvenience. However, there is never room for anyone to be rude, disrespectful, unlawful or insensitive. For those reasons, whenever we visit Hawaii, we try to learn about and respect the culture, drive courteously, and generally be aware of our surroundings and our impact
Our daughter is attending U of H at Manoa. She has not been able to come visit us during COVID due to quarantine rules in the dorms. We normally travel to visit her 1-2 times per year. We last traveled in 2020 and decided on a quiet stay in a condo in the locals town of Makaha. We were warned that the locals may not appreciate us staying in their town. We had the opposite experience. We shopped in local grocery stores and were treated very kindly.
My 1st visit to Hawaii was 1984 and now live on the Islands. How I see things. The majority of locals and visitors are great people. The visitors love the Islands people, Aloha and culture. The Locals are great, they are friendly and open to share their culture. They also understand that Hawaii’s economy is based on tourism (not totally). Let’s address the minority. Visitor/local feel are owed something or are better than others. They are rude and disrespectful. Each gets their own bad rap.
Great article, very well written for both sides. We live in a tiny tourist town that has seen record numbers in 2021. In a town of only about 2000 population, we welcomed over 2 million visitors this year. You won’t find anyone complaining about good business, including me, I own a business myself. As owners on the North Shore of Kauai, we sadly feel we will never be going back due to the draconian measures to keep visitors away, not only due to the pandemic, but also charges & tourist limit
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Btw BOH crew, Hawaiian Air’s “Travel Pono” video is similar to these two and
excellent…. Some people here may be getting the impression Hawaii is a lot less tolerant then it really is.
Funny thing, if you only read the Internet it seems like there’s a lot of unpleasant people in the world. Then when you get out in the real world
most people are great.
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I imagine most of the residents who are seemingly rude in comments on posts are not leaving their homes much due to the pandemic so they are not the ones you will meet while you are out and about!
Agree. They are afraid of Tourists disease now. Travelers don’t understand the fear. They don’t see our local government blaming and punishing us for the disease.
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You will only meet those who have to meet you due to jobs in hospitality, and other tourists, many who come with expectations that because they are spending their money here that they decide what should happen in our home. We read it here continually, people from other places telling us what is wrong with our state.
I have read many comments from longtime returning visitors of Hawaii that all state the same thing, (if things in Hawaii don’t change, they will vacation elsewhere). As a small business owner I know that repeat customers are critical to the business and keeping your customer happy makes them want to come back. Like it or not Hawaii survives on tourism. There are many other travel options that are also less costly and I will be choosing those going forward. Hawaii has lost my business.
Aloha Curt. Understand your point, but most of those comments are from those who prefer to grumble. No need to worry about pono returning and new visitors. We live in a unique archipelago unlike any other in the world. That’s the reason Hawaii will always have visitors.
I’ve been a regular visitor to the islands for over 50 years. First time, the entire summer of ’58; next trip, coming February. Even as a goofy teenager and to this minute, I’ve always understood that courtesy and a smile will get you everywhere. Different culture, different places. Understand that now the islands, like everywhere else, are trying to emerge from a debilitating economic and physical period. Slow down and try to understand that concept and you will get along just fine.
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My wife and I have visited Kauai since 2013. We also spent time in 2017 and 2018.
We respect the Island and the people who live there, same not so much for some of the local people.
One incident was at Salt Pond Beach, at the east side of the beach. The 2 of us were quiet and spending a calm peaceful afternoon when a group came and literally pushed us out of the area by backing their vehicles up 3 feet away from us, cranked the tunes and party starts
I am a part-timer as my family lives on the B.I. I completely feel the same as the locals. I live on a much smaller island (Key West) and we have many of these problems with visitors. I understand that they are keeping our service industry’s alive but what a price we pay. Most, not all, show little or no respect for our homes. They disrespect the locals, throw trash in our waters and harass our wildlife. Perhaps it’s time visitors learn respect towards those of us who are not on vacation.
Great comments Gloria. Not only should some people learn to respect the locals, their culture, and the environment, but should learn to respect the rest of the tourist who try hard to not feel like they are entitled to act anyway they want. On the other side of the coin, I also feel that some of the locals need to set a better example so that we can all learn from one another.
The problem with asking the HTA is they are biased toward showing a positive view of Hawaii and how we supposedly want more people to visit.
Money rarely flows to the poorer communities and corporations only flow a fraction of money back into the hands of residents while the government abuses/squanders the tax money gained. Fewer corporations and more mom and pop shops where tourists could meet the locals would likely benefit the residents. The number of visitors is also not sustainable.
You make a good point John.
There’s too much money spent on tourism. I believe it was 3 billion!? The money earned needs to be divided/subdivided to include larger portions to the homeless and not on tourism.
Out the pocket thoughts are to make more money and invite more tourism but it’s really not needed. None of the islands are booking because of an ad from Hawaii magazines. Hawaii is a brand. Everyone wants to go!
Lynn your view will create bigger issues. Dumping money into homelessness is a waste and will not solve the homeless problem. Look at Seattle, they spend about $100 k a year per person. More money means more homeless and more problems. More homeless is a way to cut down on tourism and it will make Hawaii unwanted by those with money (Seattle is an example). When I lived in Washington, we would visit Seattle a couple of times a year. It became unsafe to do a concert, ball game or just visit.
Posters keep on about the number of tourists and their economic affect on “residents”. Some thought needs to be given to malahinis and mainlanders buying properties as second homes or rental income. These drive up property prices and the cost of living and generate less revenue than tourists. Kama’ainas, people of the land who are tge real locals need more consuderation.
Welcome to Earth my friend. It’s happening in every desirable location. California real estate prices have been out of control for decades. Utah, Florida, parts of Texas, etc… it’s not just happening in Hawaii. Sad but true. It’s individuals, yes, but it’s also corporations and , dare I say, the Chinese.
Can you leave other races out of your comments? I would think that every person has the right to live how they want and where they want. Didn’t America state, ” Give us your poor huddle mass….” Every person is always looking for a better life.
Uncalled for! Especially in Hawaii and other Pacific location states. How do you like them [pine]apples, eh? The one thing I love is how Much more tolerant that most people who live in Hawaii are. Bigotry is not something I find to be an admirable concept.
For at least 25 years, officials here have talked about how HI is uniquely positioned to develop other industries than tourism, industries that could benefit from our timezone between the mainland and Asia. But talk is it, despite us experiencing the collapse of the yen, 911, and covid and their impact They spend more $ and bring it back. The best thing that could happen would be tourism to dry up and force the development of better paying and less environmentally harmful industries.
Careful there. Remember the past introduction of private sector “solutions”? You know, things like sugar? You no doubt have a point about island time development, but outside of entertainment, military and tourism, Hawaii is a small atol 3000 miles from anywhere. While remote working works well, that doesn’t mean companies are rushing to pay higher ages and move to a state that challenges California real estate prices.