74 thoughts on “How do Hawaii Travelers View Other Visitors and Residents”
Christine G
I hate ignorant visitors who don’t respect the culture or signs. It is rude and ignorant. Unlived in Germany for 10 years and always hated to see the ugly American. We need to learn from other people and respect their culture and their rules/laws. In Jan ’20 we visited Ohua and Big Island. We had a wonderful time and respected the people and their beautiful islands.
Fronn F
Please You are a better person than everyone almost. There are a bunch here who maybe respecting cultures a little more than you. I wish you’d come to my neighborhood and respect the cultures of the crack dealers and murderers. I thought I had it bad, but I was wrong. You have it much worse. I am starting to feel superior to you. Thank you.
Trish V.
I am currently vacationing in big island with my husband and two children. We are respectful and follow all rules, so it is super frustrating to see other tourists being so disrespectful. Seeing their behavior makes me understand why so many locals dislike tourists. I feel like we get judged because of their abhorrent behavior. We witnessed one awful family in volcanoes national park. No one was wearing masks, they took an infant into the sulfer vents, and one of them carried a speaker in his back pocket blaring loud music. Another couple repeatedly shone a bright lazer into the night sky at the Mouna Kea visitors center after being asked by the ranger to stop. I support strong fines and punishments for visitors who break the rules because they are the ones making it harder for travelers like me.
Eva R.
Follow this saying “When you go to Rome do what Romans do”. When you go to hawaii follow their rules. I live in the main land.
Hen R
My wife and I have been going to Hawaii for years, and never has it been about hanging out at the beach. It’s the people, culture, and nature. Respect that and you’ll have a great time.
Bob N.
I really enjoy your posts. My husband and I look forward to visiting Hawaii once all of the COVID restrictions are relaxed. I’ve been wanting to visit your islands my entire adult life and your column has helped me to become a more informed and polite guest. Thank you keep e the good work 😊
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Bob.
Thanks. We look forward to your being able to visit the islands.
Aloha.
Julie N.
My husband and I are lucky enough to have very dear friends that live in Oahu on the North Shore. When we visit we treat the islands the same way we treat our friends and their home. We are grateful and honored to be welcomed there. We follow the expected rules of our hosts, we are polite and helpful and we are all able to enjoy ourselves. It’s helpful to have locals tell us what places to eat, what time of day is best for certain activities the best museums and cultural sites to see. Don’t overstep your bounds, be respectful and polite and you’ll get the same in return. Our friends have lived in Hawaii for over 30 years,they have a business there but they still consider themselves visitors they honor the true hawaiian people. The Aloha spirit is very real but don’t abuse it.
Louis M.
Great post….True pono
Vicki Lynn P.
Listening to KINE and the new method of testing out of state visitors w/a hefty $125 per test! Yet another way to scam your visitors and your economic boosters! Wow. A result of lawsuits or just a way for those who live in Hawaii currently to further scam out of staters. Mainlanders don’t do that. We’re all humans from around the world. From my grad school years in Hilo in ‘75 to the squalor allowed to fester all the way to Makaha is indefensible. Btw, the state of Hawaii was trying to deport homeless to the mainland years ago on one of our numerous surf trips there😂Residents litter, disrespect and trash the state. Tourism should be praised, encouraged and welcomed!!🇺🇸🙏🏻🇺🇸💪🏻
J.S.
It is funny how you Assume that those testing funds are going to the residents of Hawaii. That you do not stop to think about how many older residents thete are, and how little space the islands have, providing only so much healthcare. Did you ever consider that the increase of visitors with a disease can Actually affect an entire island? A place stolen by the USA to make it a state. Tourism is not Hawaii’s issue, its disrespectful self-entitled people like yourself that cause friction in a place of beauty. Visiting anywhere should require common sense, kindness, respect and morales. People like yourself say tourism should be praised, while also disrespecting the culture and islands. And wonder why you are not wanted!
Judd S
Your a Trumper. I can tell.
David W.
Amen
A.L.
You’re ridiculous. The mainland has been sending it’s homeless to Hawaii with one way tickets for years. Also tourism should only be “praised, encouraged, and welcomed” when the tourists respect the locals. Traveling here during a global pandemic is not showing love for the island. It’s being incredibly selfish and only caring about getting a cheap vacation regardless of the health risks you’re paying by traveling here.
Beth C.
I have been coming to Hawaii for about 50 years. I also have owed a timeshare for many years. Why all of a sudden are the locals complaining about the tourists? I respect signs at home and in Hawaii. I am kind to service workers wherever I am. The tourists that complain, are rude or disrespectful are just rude people period. I see nothing wrong with enjoying the beautiful beaches. I have been bringing my kids to Hawaii since they were little. On one trip my son bought a book about the Hawaiian language. The locals may not like us there but the fact is they need our vacation dollars. Everyone these days is just too worked up.
Cynthia
When we first started our travel to the Hawaiian islands 20+ years ago we used each trip to educate our young children to the history and culture of the Hawaiian people. I have not experienced witnessing travelers talking poorly to service people. We always enjoy tours because each individual shared a piece of their personal life on their respective island. We follow posted signs for do not enter because you must respect each state. I do feel the Aloha has dimmed over the last several years, particularly on Kauai.
JamesH
1. Respect the sign and find another trail or activity. I’m sure there are at least 100 other things available to do.
2. I would feel very uncomfortable, but would not intervene unless I was privy to the entire situation. However, I might ask for the supervisor/manager and ask him/her to intervene.
3. I would internally laugh roll my eyes at the mainlander-splaining.
4. No I would not do the same! That would be extremely foolish.
5. They are a form of protection. We have seen how our national parks get “loved to death” with increasing numbers of visitors, particularly the clueless and careless who leave trash, go off-trail, and other acts that ruin public spaces. Hawaii has the right to protect its landscape and resources.
6. I always “tap into the culture” with each visit. While I love the beach, Hawaii has so much more.
Mike J
Great idea for a tread topic.
If I see a sign that says KAPU. I will not pass, they mean it. If a trail or site is marked closed or fenced, I assume it is for safety reasons. Hawaii is not Disneyland. Assuming that you can go wherever you like can be fatal.
And never, ever turn your back on the ocean.
Shelley S
We love Hawaii, but don’t get there as often as we would like. So when we go to a specific place and find it closed we are disappointing but we respect the signs, because there is usually a good reason for a particular area to be closed at any given time.. I find it very upsetting to see anyone treated with disrespect especially people who are working to make my stay comfortable, I try to make my appreciation known with verbal thanks and I do leave tips everyday, not just at the end of my stay. I like to talk to the. And ask them how they are doing. Being from Minnesota and beach acces being limited for me, I love the beach, but I also love the culture , we spend much of our time exploring and love meeting the local population and talking to them. We try to avoid the crowds and would just a soon watching and artisan create something as be in a crowded area.
Dayna R.
Aloha Rob & Jeff!
I’ve been visiting Hawai’i for over 40 years, and each time I land there it’s like entering a magic kingdom. All of Hawai’i is sacred, as are its native people. My stomach turns when I see tourists disrespecting the land by littering, trampling the exquisite foliage or copping an attitude with the locals. Hawai’i is so much more than the beaches: on Kauai: hiking in the Na Pali mountains, boating down the Wailua river, visiting the several gorgeous botanical gardens, taking a boat out on the sea to witness the sea life, eating at small local eateries & shopping at local Mom & Pop stores, or simply tootling through the countryside —there’s so much to do! And on Maui: going to upcountry (love Makawao!), Hana & just exploring the island—hope to get to Haleakala some day. No, I don’t mind being inconvenienced by limited or restricted parking in order to preserve Hawai’i. I can’t wait to get back— hoping to get to Kauai in May.
And Mahalo for keeping this newsletter going!
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Dayna.
Thanks for all your comments. We hope it works out for you to get to Kauai next May. That’s a great time of year here.
Aloha.
Curtis C.
If you see tourists disrespecting the land, you need to call them out. In my numerous trips to the Islands, I have never seen any of that. What I did see on my last trip to Honolulu was the outskirts littered with piles of trash, tires, box springs, and discarded furniture. I doubt that you can blame that on tourists.
Jordan
I’ve been a visitor for over seven years now and am still learning what it means to live an aloha lifestyle. As the center of my own world, Its difficult for me to look past my own selfish desires and realize I’m part of an extended ohana that deserves my upmost respect. Also it seems a lot easier to project my shadow onto other visitors and accuse them of not understanding proper etiqite. Its time to leave this all behind me and start showing others the love that ultimately I don’t even show to myself. It starts with love of the self and then is spread throughout the community. Love and understanding is what the world needs and trumps a life of collzcting material objects.
Rachel S
We are from Canada and have travelled with our family many times over the years to Hawaii and consider it our home away from home. Due to the fact that we have fallen in love with this very special place it is natural for us to respect the land, the ocean and the people and we want to protect it. We pick up garbage we find, obey signs and procedures, have volunteered there while on vacation and feel honoured that the Hawaiian people allow us to share their home with us. We respect the fact that we are visitors and have no right to act otherwise. We love Hawaii and its people and it is because of the wonderful Hawaiian people and their fight to maintain the land, ocean and culture, that Hawaii is such a magical place. If you go as a visitor to Hawaii, remember that you are just a visitor and you are not entitled to treat the land, ocean or people however you please. The Aloha spirit is one of the most precious gifts Hawaii gives…don’t take it for granted!
Jan G
I consider myself a visitor even though I spend four months a year in Hawaii dispersed through out the seasons and have been doing so for 16 years. I do get angry at people who seem to be using the amenities and the services here rather than respecting them. I don’t normally say anything unless I feel that it is harmful to the environment or two animals and nature. For instance, people who try to climb over a fence to get closer to a sea turtle here my warning about hurting the animal. If I see someone doing something that is obviously dangerous (usually young adults or older teens) I will warn them. Otherwise I don’t confront rule breakers or rude people.
As far as cultural traditions, it has been a pleasure to learn more about them. It’s the visitor’s loss if they don’t recognize the rich culture around them.
Jan
Cf
Great post. With the trails i dont likevto hike any off limits, it is dangerous. Even the open trails can be dangerous because hawaii tends to poorly maintain them compared to masachusetts trails. So plan accordingly i say haha.
On number 2 it depends. I thought most of service industry workers were really nice snd helpful but i did encounter a few that were really lazy or didnt care. I did have issues with two managers at safeway and foodland. So not tourist industry there. They wanted drug addicts to keep bathroom in kihei messy and in kaneohe one lady didnt like mainlanders.
Number 3 yes everything seems to be back in time 10 to 20 years in hawaii. Sometimes its frustrating for both tourists and residents and sometimes workers themselves. It can take alot longer to get things done in hawaii but usually people worked with me if i was cool about it.
If someone is too close to ocean or at risk i might tell them or atleast watch them for a bit to see if back away. Parking is a problem all over and the bus system sucks and is overcrowded. They over air condition the busses on oahu to where you need a winter coat!
I was personally interested in hawaii for warm weather and beaches but i liked learning about local culture before this year when it was f the tourists mentality. Ive mentioned this many times in my posts as hypocritical and unacceptable.
TammyW
1. I feel the trail is closed for a reason. Obey it!
2. Whether or not you’re on vacation in Hawaii, or anywhere else, have some respect.
3.uncomfortable
4. Absolutely not! That’s an accident waiting to happen.
5. I would consider it protecting Hawaii. There are other beaches or another time it see that particular beach.
6. I absolutely love the beaches! It’s also great to check out some of the things the islands have to offer. We’ve done tours, gotten advice from locals as to where to go.
Kim M
Aloha! We will be traveling to Maui at the end of December. I’m wondering if you’ve heard of the best testing sites, of those approved, for receipt of immediate results? My husband and I are very proactive with following C-19 protocols and appreciate the steps being taken to make travel to HI safe. I’m worried about not getting our results in time to be in compliance with the 72-hour mandate. We want to do everything we can to be efficient. Any advice you’re able to provide is greatly appreciated.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Kim.
We’ll have to leave it to other visitors with an experience to help. The test comments have most liked is the Vault mail in one.
Aloha.
Cate G
While I’m still a new visitor to the islands (first trip ever last year) I have several more planned in the future and covid permitting I’ve started booking for May 2021 ❤️
1) Always respect the signage. It’s there for a reason. You don’t have to like it but have some class and respect it.
2) I’m from Texas and I may not quite be tactful enough to wait until that other person is gone before I open my mouth. Where I come from that’s bad manners. Treat everyone with respect. Golden rule.
3) That makes me cringe. you don’t live there you don’t get to make the rules. How would you feel if an outsider came in and tried to be ‘helpful’. You’re a visitor unless you’re being hurt in some form keep your mouth shut.The road to h*** is paved with good intentions. Bad form no matter where you visit.
4) absolutely not. Natural selection. Next question
5) it’s absolutely protection. The islands are finite. You do what you have to take care of your home. At the end of the day you’re only visiting and it’s not the end of the world.
6) the beaches are an absolute upside, but you can’t beat the culture and history. I was very disappointed last trip I didn’t get tickets in advance for a tour of Iolani Palace. I loved the Bishop Museum. There’s more to the island than Pearl Harbor. Lulu’s will forever be my favorite eating spot.
Katherine K.
We’ve been visiting Hawaii, mostly Kauai, for almost 30 years, and for 4 weeks for the past 10 years. We totally respect the Hawaiian customs. We LOVE the fact that the Kauai gov’t has limited access to Ke’e beach and instituted an excellent system for permits.
If we see a visitor talking down to a service employee, we ask them to remember that they are children of God and what these people do for us. We love and respect the people who work at our timeshare in Lihue !
We’ve studied the culture and read a lot about it, pus visit museums and other historical places. It’s wonderful. If someone want to take a selfie in a dangerous place, and they fall, well – there’s Darwin’s Rule.
I wish others would value the islands as much as we do !!!
Barbara M
1) We’ve come to realize that such signs are there for a reason. In the case of Queen’s Bath – it is a dangerous place so stay away. It may just be to protect someone’s privacy – so do unto others as you wish done to you! And pray the others stay safe!
2) Knowing me, I’d probably wait for a secluded moment and apologize to that service person on behalf of others like ourselves who are respectful.
3) Uncomfortable as hell and, again, I’d probably take them aside and explain.
4) No way! And I’d probably be praying for them anyway so that would take up my time.
5) It’s hard when you remember when everything was easier but as Kauai has become more of a destination and visitors haven’t malama ‘aina, it was inevitable.
6) I’ve danced hula for 14 years and (pre-covid) take classes from a Professor of Hawaiian Culture here in Albuquerque. She is a direct descendant of Kamehameha and continues her belief in the “old ways” which is fascinating. So that should answer the question.
Joerg H.
1). I think you answer your own question, it’s a question of respect. If the trail is closed, it was closed for a reason, and you should respect that.
2). It depends on the situation. If it’s mild, I might just indicate support for the server directly. If it’s significant, it might require intervention. In either case, it certainly would affect my opinion of that person.
3). Neither, it ticks me off. This is Hawaii, not the mainland, and indeed, things work differently. As I see it, this is an example of the “ugly American” traveler.
4). No, and I would warn them that what they are doing is potentially dangerous. Who knows, they might not realize it.
5). Protecting Hawaii. Hoards to visitors destroying the natural beauty of a place aren’t good for anyone. Sometimes, measures have to be taken so that that place will still be available to future generations of visitors.
6).D, all of the above. It’s a beautiful place AND has an amazing culture. If you just concentrate on the one you’re missing out on 1/2 of the experience.
Charles F.
1. We respect the signs and placards!
2. Depending on how dynamic the situation is, I may make a comment.
3. We travel to Europe and see this a lot. We enjoy and value the differences.
4. No, learned the hard way!
5. We don’t drive, we use “Da Bus” to get around and love it. As seniors, it’s a great benefit.
6. We have stayed at my sister’s in Hanapepe for months at a time and have assimilated into the
neighborhood and local culture, not exactly Kamaaina, but not Malahini.
Elojio
These things people complain about happen everywhere. It emphasizes the lack of institutional supervision available on the islands. My guess is once all the tourists complain enough, there will be a big tax assessment somewhere to hire more law enforcement, to keep everyone safe. They’ll probably take away the homeowner/occupant exemption from the property tax. The tourists buy all the real estate anyway.
Lee S
Interesting list of questions you asked in your post. My husband’s family has been on Oahu since the late 1800’s, and his mom drummed a lot of things into us, which we have passed on to our grandson. One of the most important was to always respect the ocean and NEVER turn your back on it. My husband’s grandfather was swept off the rocks near Makapu’u Point and drowned as his wife and daughter stood by helpless. That taught the family a serious lesson about the power of the ocean.
Concerning the warning signs on Haiku Steps etc., again, tourists fail to realize that they are there for protection and safety. Our son lives not far from there, and many people ignore the warnings. I’m reminded of the warning signs we saw on Kilauea several years ago. Rangers marked out a path to safely treck out to see where lava entered the ocean, and at one point it said that it was unsafe to go farther. We watched as many tourists continued right on by the signs, not realizing that seemingly secure lava benches can collapse and send one right down into molten lava. Many visitors are not familiar with these kinds of hazards, and they ignore them to their own peril.
Thanks for asking interesting questions BOH. I look forward to reading responses.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Lee.
Thanks for helping and for your many comments.
Aloha.
Roger f
Curious, how many tourists perished in the lava?
Bob S.
I’ve lived in Oahu as well as Maui. I had a flower shop and made it a point to connect with a Host family, and hire local kids. I now have a place in Kauai and still have to inform some tourists about beach safety before I pull them out of dangerous shore break. If I see a tourist let a bag blow in the wind, down the beach. I pick it up. As well as cleaning up garbage any time I see it. South shores generally pick up the most Ocean debris. Add to the land and make us all look good. If we weren’t born on Island, we are not Local, period!
Hugh
Wow! What a topic. Cheap airfare and poorly educated travelers have worn down too may beautiful spots in the islands. I think the aloha spirit is still alive but is being ground down by travelers who have no respect for a unique culture. How do you share your wonderful islands without being elitist? All I know is that I work to save enough to come back and position myself to live a few weeks or months like a native in one of the greatest places on the planet.
Warm regards,
Hugh the Haole
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Hugh.
Thanks for that.
Aloha.
Fronn F.
That’s a really funny question. Seems like whenever you get more than one person together, one starts thinking s/he’s better than the other.
HaHaHa.
Geo C.
Thank you so very much for sharing the background for this post. As a former 9+ years resident and frequent visitor since then (mainly because we still own our place in Poipu and have many friends here), I feel somewhat qualified to contribute. So, here goes, according to the comment numbers above:
1. Always respect the local signs and strictly abide by the message.
2. Try to take the visitor aside and explain that the way things are done and behavior is displayed here, particularly in the service industries (in which I worked for seven years), are based on some very deep, cultural values of caring and respect for each other, regardless of one’s station in life.
3. It makes me feel very uncomfortable. As the old saying goes, “When in Rome ….. ”
4. Never, ever! And, remember something else — never turn your back on the ocean!
5. Absolutely protecting Hawaii and for the safety of everyone. Otherwise, chaos can lead to irreparable damage.
6. I want to tap into Hawaiian culture, provided the experiences are genuine and not significantly enhanced to try to impress tourists — Hawaiian culture is so beautiful just as it naturally is!
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Geo.
Thanks for giving us a hand.
Aloha.
Pam S
Whenever I’m on Kauai, I feel like I belong there. I would never think to disrespect the land, the ocean, or the people. As for the signs, they’re for everyone’s safety. They wouldn’t be there if they didn’t have a specific purpose… to save lives. If you ignore them, you could be putting someone else’s life in danger. Have kulelana.
Russ H.
1. I definitely would not chance it. First of all I respect the law and second of all, I respect the land and would not want to jeopardize safety for myself or anyone else.
2. I don’t like it when anyone talks down to anyone. I probably wouldn’t jump in but if I got the same service manager, I would make it a point to leave them a compliment. Just keep in mind that they are trying their best.
3. I can’t imagine what would work differently in Hawaii but it would be uncomfortable or even laughable. I would like to see or hear what that would be.
4. Whenever I see someone doing something unsafe or not respecting the land, it just bugs me. However, sometimes we don’t see the whole picture or understand context. For example, I was in Oahu snorkeling and I had purchased a new face mask that covered my whole face while swimming. As I was out snorkeling, I all of a sudden became very motion sick, felt nauseous and my breathing became very labored. During this somewhat of a panicky situation for me, the only thing I could think of was to get my mask off and get some air. So, I happened to be close to some reef under the water that if I stood with my flippers straight down, it gave me enough space to stand for a minute, regain my composure, get some air, find the closest way to the nearest beach etc. For that 30-45 seconds of standing on the reef, I had (I believe they were a local) someone get made at me for standing on the reef. From their perspective it probably just looked like I was just standing on it for fun. She had no idea what I was really doing. I felt bad for doing it but I really didn’t have much option or at least the frame of mind to not too at the time. I would never purposefully do that. I found out that it was definitely the mask that made me feel ill so I got rid of it. But this is just an example of others not knowing the whole story.
Looks like I ran out of room to comment on the other two questions. Aloha
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Russ.
Thanks. Feel free to leave another comment if you’d like. Interesting experience you described. Empathy.
Aloha.
Major C.
We perceive individuality as holding some exclusive knowlege.
That only impedes the progress of humanity.
We are all visitors.
Jeanne m
Rude people are rude and ignorant, whether traveling or shopping at home. Cant change a leopards’ spotS no matter what. Why waste your energy….they assuredly will get theirs, if not already. You can say your peace, aS I do, but dont expect much. I hope I give them poise to thInk at the least. Like the tourist kicking the pigeons on a Kuhio bus stop….i said, where I come from, you would get one year in prison….my comment in front of others…probably on deaf ears…only heard by God, enough said. Rude people will get theirs!
Lynde C
I wouldn’t say I’m an annual repeat visitor but I have been to a few of the islands multiple times since I was a child. The last time I was in Maui, a popular trail was closed and I was bummed out but respected the sign. When I see visitors blatently disrepecting the area they are visiting like some of the people on these forums have been, all that goes through my mind is “you are ruining for the rest of us”. I try my best to do as much homework as possible before my visit so I don’t come across a bummed out situation. I am there to experience the culture but more so to experience the landscapes as my family are avid hikers. Visitors should be in the mindset that they are visiting someone’s home and have NO right to tell them how things should be.
Cindy H
Trails marked closed are marked for a reason. No, I would not go anyway. If there is a limit for parking passes I assume it is to protect the environment. If we don’t protect it no one will get to enjoy its beauty. I love how Hawaii is different. That’s why we come. I enjoy seeing how others do things and disrespecting someone for providing a service to you is unnecessary. As a retired teacher I have provided a service for almost 40 years and regardless of the service they have my respect.I think the saying “Treat others the way you want to be treated” says it all.
Teresa
My husband and I have been traveling to Hawaii for several years, twice a year when we can, and now we own a home on the Big Island. We always try to be respectful of both the land and the people who live there. When we were visiting the North Shore of Kauai, I was horrified when saw tourists parking on resident’s lawns when parking was limited. When we were on the beach on the Big Island, I had to inform some tourists that it is against the law to harass the turtles! I still consider myself a tourist to Hawaii, even though I have a home there. Please, when visiting these beautiful islands, respect the residents, their property, care for the creatures that call this place home and put your garbage in the can!! Thank you!
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Teresa.
Thanks for your comments. Yes, we forget to add the parking problems that previously existed on Kauai’s north shore. Near Tunnels Beach was the worst.
Aloha.
Christina C.
1. I respect signs unless I am with a local
2. If possible, I go the worker later and say how much I respect the job they do and somehow be positive to them
3.If they complain to me, I ask what they look for in a vacation. Why did they choose Hawaii, etc. I feel sorry for them and bless them. I ask the gods to help shift their thinking.
4. I would not just cause someone else does. I have an Algonquin water blessing song I sing a lot.
5. Soooo grateful for limiting access to protect nature.
Jon D
Aloha!
1)Look for another trail. I do this at home. You should respect where you travel as a visitor even more than at home.
2)First I wince because that is just rude and paints all visitors in a bad light. If it escalates I tell them to back off
3)Uncomfortable! See #2
4)No way.
5)I see it as protecting Hawaii. I will say that if a there are passes left on a given day, you should be able to buy them at the gate. More $ for Hawaii
6)Very little about the beach. We explore and hike Kauai. Always looking for new adventures. Any favorites BOH?
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Jon.
Thanks for all the comments. New adventures on Kauai huh? Not sure as it is such a matter of personal preference. We plan to do a Grove Farm ATV tour as friends who have visited loved it. Perennial favorite hikes include Kokee’s Awaawapuhi for its over the top views, among so many others.
Aloha.
Lynde C
BOH –
The Grove Farm Plantation in Kauai is one of the main reasons we’re visiting in December. My husband has extended family that created the plantation. His dad wanted us to visit with him the last couple of years but we never got the chance, he past away from Cancer last April. We haven’t been able to have a ceremony for his passing, so we created this trip that we now postponed to the week of Christmas hoping it all works out.
Nancy W.
I love Hawaii. Lives there my kids were born there and one died and his ashes were left in the beautiful ocean by on bellows beach
I hope to return this feb to visit my beautiful bellows . I of course understand why Hawaii is testing why we need to follow rules. I just hope I can get my test done correctly in 72 hrs. I will be flying from Indy to Dallas and on.
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I hate ignorant visitors who don’t respect the culture or signs. It is rude and ignorant. Unlived in Germany for 10 years and always hated to see the ugly American. We need to learn from other people and respect their culture and their rules/laws. In Jan ’20 we visited Ohua and Big Island. We had a wonderful time and respected the people and their beautiful islands.
Please You are a better person than everyone almost. There are a bunch here who maybe respecting cultures a little more than you. I wish you’d come to my neighborhood and respect the cultures of the crack dealers and murderers. I thought I had it bad, but I was wrong. You have it much worse. I am starting to feel superior to you. Thank you.
I am currently vacationing in big island with my husband and two children. We are respectful and follow all rules, so it is super frustrating to see other tourists being so disrespectful. Seeing their behavior makes me understand why so many locals dislike tourists. I feel like we get judged because of their abhorrent behavior. We witnessed one awful family in volcanoes national park. No one was wearing masks, they took an infant into the sulfer vents, and one of them carried a speaker in his back pocket blaring loud music. Another couple repeatedly shone a bright lazer into the night sky at the Mouna Kea visitors center after being asked by the ranger to stop. I support strong fines and punishments for visitors who break the rules because they are the ones making it harder for travelers like me.
Follow this saying “When you go to Rome do what Romans do”. When you go to hawaii follow their rules. I live in the main land.
My wife and I have been going to Hawaii for years, and never has it been about hanging out at the beach. It’s the people, culture, and nature. Respect that and you’ll have a great time.
I really enjoy your posts. My husband and I look forward to visiting Hawaii once all of the COVID restrictions are relaxed. I’ve been wanting to visit your islands my entire adult life and your column has helped me to become a more informed and polite guest. Thank you keep e the good work 😊
Hi Bob.
Thanks. We look forward to your being able to visit the islands.
Aloha.
My husband and I are lucky enough to have very dear friends that live in Oahu on the North Shore. When we visit we treat the islands the same way we treat our friends and their home. We are grateful and honored to be welcomed there. We follow the expected rules of our hosts, we are polite and helpful and we are all able to enjoy ourselves. It’s helpful to have locals tell us what places to eat, what time of day is best for certain activities the best museums and cultural sites to see. Don’t overstep your bounds, be respectful and polite and you’ll get the same in return. Our friends have lived in Hawaii for over 30 years,they have a business there but they still consider themselves visitors they honor the true hawaiian people. The Aloha spirit is very real but don’t abuse it.
Great post….True pono
Listening to KINE and the new method of testing out of state visitors w/a hefty $125 per test! Yet another way to scam your visitors and your economic boosters! Wow. A result of lawsuits or just a way for those who live in Hawaii currently to further scam out of staters. Mainlanders don’t do that. We’re all humans from around the world. From my grad school years in Hilo in ‘75 to the squalor allowed to fester all the way to Makaha is indefensible. Btw, the state of Hawaii was trying to deport homeless to the mainland years ago on one of our numerous surf trips there😂Residents litter, disrespect and trash the state. Tourism should be praised, encouraged and welcomed!!🇺🇸🙏🏻🇺🇸💪🏻
It is funny how you Assume that those testing funds are going to the residents of Hawaii. That you do not stop to think about how many older residents thete are, and how little space the islands have, providing only so much healthcare. Did you ever consider that the increase of visitors with a disease can Actually affect an entire island? A place stolen by the USA to make it a state. Tourism is not Hawaii’s issue, its disrespectful self-entitled people like yourself that cause friction in a place of beauty. Visiting anywhere should require common sense, kindness, respect and morales. People like yourself say tourism should be praised, while also disrespecting the culture and islands. And wonder why you are not wanted!
Your a Trumper. I can tell.
Amen
You’re ridiculous. The mainland has been sending it’s homeless to Hawaii with one way tickets for years. Also tourism should only be “praised, encouraged, and welcomed” when the tourists respect the locals. Traveling here during a global pandemic is not showing love for the island. It’s being incredibly selfish and only caring about getting a cheap vacation regardless of the health risks you’re paying by traveling here.
I have been coming to Hawaii for about 50 years. I also have owed a timeshare for many years. Why all of a sudden are the locals complaining about the tourists? I respect signs at home and in Hawaii. I am kind to service workers wherever I am. The tourists that complain, are rude or disrespectful are just rude people period. I see nothing wrong with enjoying the beautiful beaches. I have been bringing my kids to Hawaii since they were little. On one trip my son bought a book about the Hawaiian language. The locals may not like us there but the fact is they need our vacation dollars. Everyone these days is just too worked up.
When we first started our travel to the Hawaiian islands 20+ years ago we used each trip to educate our young children to the history and culture of the Hawaiian people. I have not experienced witnessing travelers talking poorly to service people. We always enjoy tours because each individual shared a piece of their personal life on their respective island. We follow posted signs for do not enter because you must respect each state. I do feel the Aloha has dimmed over the last several years, particularly on Kauai.
1. Respect the sign and find another trail or activity. I’m sure there are at least 100 other things available to do.
2. I would feel very uncomfortable, but would not intervene unless I was privy to the entire situation. However, I might ask for the supervisor/manager and ask him/her to intervene.
3. I would internally laugh roll my eyes at the mainlander-splaining.
4. No I would not do the same! That would be extremely foolish.
5. They are a form of protection. We have seen how our national parks get “loved to death” with increasing numbers of visitors, particularly the clueless and careless who leave trash, go off-trail, and other acts that ruin public spaces. Hawaii has the right to protect its landscape and resources.
6. I always “tap into the culture” with each visit. While I love the beach, Hawaii has so much more.
Great idea for a tread topic.
If I see a sign that says KAPU. I will not pass, they mean it. If a trail or site is marked closed or fenced, I assume it is for safety reasons. Hawaii is not Disneyland. Assuming that you can go wherever you like can be fatal.
And never, ever turn your back on the ocean.
We love Hawaii, but don’t get there as often as we would like. So when we go to a specific place and find it closed we are disappointing but we respect the signs, because there is usually a good reason for a particular area to be closed at any given time.. I find it very upsetting to see anyone treated with disrespect especially people who are working to make my stay comfortable, I try to make my appreciation known with verbal thanks and I do leave tips everyday, not just at the end of my stay. I like to talk to the. And ask them how they are doing. Being from Minnesota and beach acces being limited for me, I love the beach, but I also love the culture , we spend much of our time exploring and love meeting the local population and talking to them. We try to avoid the crowds and would just a soon watching and artisan create something as be in a crowded area.
Aloha Rob & Jeff!
I’ve been visiting Hawai’i for over 40 years, and each time I land there it’s like entering a magic kingdom. All of Hawai’i is sacred, as are its native people. My stomach turns when I see tourists disrespecting the land by littering, trampling the exquisite foliage or copping an attitude with the locals. Hawai’i is so much more than the beaches: on Kauai: hiking in the Na Pali mountains, boating down the Wailua river, visiting the several gorgeous botanical gardens, taking a boat out on the sea to witness the sea life, eating at small local eateries & shopping at local Mom & Pop stores, or simply tootling through the countryside —there’s so much to do! And on Maui: going to upcountry (love Makawao!), Hana & just exploring the island—hope to get to Haleakala some day. No, I don’t mind being inconvenienced by limited or restricted parking in order to preserve Hawai’i. I can’t wait to get back— hoping to get to Kauai in May.
And Mahalo for keeping this newsletter going!
Hi Dayna.
Thanks for all your comments. We hope it works out for you to get to Kauai next May. That’s a great time of year here.
Aloha.
If you see tourists disrespecting the land, you need to call them out. In my numerous trips to the Islands, I have never seen any of that. What I did see on my last trip to Honolulu was the outskirts littered with piles of trash, tires, box springs, and discarded furniture. I doubt that you can blame that on tourists.
I’ve been a visitor for over seven years now and am still learning what it means to live an aloha lifestyle. As the center of my own world, Its difficult for me to look past my own selfish desires and realize I’m part of an extended ohana that deserves my upmost respect. Also it seems a lot easier to project my shadow onto other visitors and accuse them of not understanding proper etiqite. Its time to leave this all behind me and start showing others the love that ultimately I don’t even show to myself. It starts with love of the self and then is spread throughout the community. Love and understanding is what the world needs and trumps a life of collzcting material objects.
We are from Canada and have travelled with our family many times over the years to Hawaii and consider it our home away from home. Due to the fact that we have fallen in love with this very special place it is natural for us to respect the land, the ocean and the people and we want to protect it. We pick up garbage we find, obey signs and procedures, have volunteered there while on vacation and feel honoured that the Hawaiian people allow us to share their home with us. We respect the fact that we are visitors and have no right to act otherwise. We love Hawaii and its people and it is because of the wonderful Hawaiian people and their fight to maintain the land, ocean and culture, that Hawaii is such a magical place. If you go as a visitor to Hawaii, remember that you are just a visitor and you are not entitled to treat the land, ocean or people however you please. The Aloha spirit is one of the most precious gifts Hawaii gives…don’t take it for granted!
I consider myself a visitor even though I spend four months a year in Hawaii dispersed through out the seasons and have been doing so for 16 years. I do get angry at people who seem to be using the amenities and the services here rather than respecting them. I don’t normally say anything unless I feel that it is harmful to the environment or two animals and nature. For instance, people who try to climb over a fence to get closer to a sea turtle here my warning about hurting the animal. If I see someone doing something that is obviously dangerous (usually young adults or older teens) I will warn them. Otherwise I don’t confront rule breakers or rude people.
As far as cultural traditions, it has been a pleasure to learn more about them. It’s the visitor’s loss if they don’t recognize the rich culture around them.
Jan
Great post. With the trails i dont likevto hike any off limits, it is dangerous. Even the open trails can be dangerous because hawaii tends to poorly maintain them compared to masachusetts trails. So plan accordingly i say haha.
On number 2 it depends. I thought most of service industry workers were really nice snd helpful but i did encounter a few that were really lazy or didnt care. I did have issues with two managers at safeway and foodland. So not tourist industry there. They wanted drug addicts to keep bathroom in kihei messy and in kaneohe one lady didnt like mainlanders.
Number 3 yes everything seems to be back in time 10 to 20 years in hawaii. Sometimes its frustrating for both tourists and residents and sometimes workers themselves. It can take alot longer to get things done in hawaii but usually people worked with me if i was cool about it.
If someone is too close to ocean or at risk i might tell them or atleast watch them for a bit to see if back away. Parking is a problem all over and the bus system sucks and is overcrowded. They over air condition the busses on oahu to where you need a winter coat!
I was personally interested in hawaii for warm weather and beaches but i liked learning about local culture before this year when it was f the tourists mentality. Ive mentioned this many times in my posts as hypocritical and unacceptable.
1. I feel the trail is closed for a reason. Obey it!
2. Whether or not you’re on vacation in Hawaii, or anywhere else, have some respect.
3.uncomfortable
4. Absolutely not! That’s an accident waiting to happen.
5. I would consider it protecting Hawaii. There are other beaches or another time it see that particular beach.
6. I absolutely love the beaches! It’s also great to check out some of the things the islands have to offer. We’ve done tours, gotten advice from locals as to where to go.
Aloha! We will be traveling to Maui at the end of December. I’m wondering if you’ve heard of the best testing sites, of those approved, for receipt of immediate results? My husband and I are very proactive with following C-19 protocols and appreciate the steps being taken to make travel to HI safe. I’m worried about not getting our results in time to be in compliance with the 72-hour mandate. We want to do everything we can to be efficient. Any advice you’re able to provide is greatly appreciated.
Hi Kim.
We’ll have to leave it to other visitors with an experience to help. The test comments have most liked is the Vault mail in one.
Aloha.
While I’m still a new visitor to the islands (first trip ever last year) I have several more planned in the future and covid permitting I’ve started booking for May 2021 ❤️
1) Always respect the signage. It’s there for a reason. You don’t have to like it but have some class and respect it.
2) I’m from Texas and I may not quite be tactful enough to wait until that other person is gone before I open my mouth. Where I come from that’s bad manners. Treat everyone with respect. Golden rule.
3) That makes me cringe. you don’t live there you don’t get to make the rules. How would you feel if an outsider came in and tried to be ‘helpful’. You’re a visitor unless you’re being hurt in some form keep your mouth shut.The road to h*** is paved with good intentions. Bad form no matter where you visit.
4) absolutely not. Natural selection. Next question
5) it’s absolutely protection. The islands are finite. You do what you have to take care of your home. At the end of the day you’re only visiting and it’s not the end of the world.
6) the beaches are an absolute upside, but you can’t beat the culture and history. I was very disappointed last trip I didn’t get tickets in advance for a tour of Iolani Palace. I loved the Bishop Museum. There’s more to the island than Pearl Harbor. Lulu’s will forever be my favorite eating spot.
We’ve been visiting Hawaii, mostly Kauai, for almost 30 years, and for 4 weeks for the past 10 years. We totally respect the Hawaiian customs. We LOVE the fact that the Kauai gov’t has limited access to Ke’e beach and instituted an excellent system for permits.
If we see a visitor talking down to a service employee, we ask them to remember that they are children of God and what these people do for us. We love and respect the people who work at our timeshare in Lihue !
We’ve studied the culture and read a lot about it, pus visit museums and other historical places. It’s wonderful. If someone want to take a selfie in a dangerous place, and they fall, well – there’s Darwin’s Rule.
I wish others would value the islands as much as we do !!!
1) We’ve come to realize that such signs are there for a reason. In the case of Queen’s Bath – it is a dangerous place so stay away. It may just be to protect someone’s privacy – so do unto others as you wish done to you! And pray the others stay safe!
2) Knowing me, I’d probably wait for a secluded moment and apologize to that service person on behalf of others like ourselves who are respectful.
3) Uncomfortable as hell and, again, I’d probably take them aside and explain.
4) No way! And I’d probably be praying for them anyway so that would take up my time.
5) It’s hard when you remember when everything was easier but as Kauai has become more of a destination and visitors haven’t malama ‘aina, it was inevitable.
6) I’ve danced hula for 14 years and (pre-covid) take classes from a Professor of Hawaiian Culture here in Albuquerque. She is a direct descendant of Kamehameha and continues her belief in the “old ways” which is fascinating. So that should answer the question.
1). I think you answer your own question, it’s a question of respect. If the trail is closed, it was closed for a reason, and you should respect that.
2). It depends on the situation. If it’s mild, I might just indicate support for the server directly. If it’s significant, it might require intervention. In either case, it certainly would affect my opinion of that person.
3). Neither, it ticks me off. This is Hawaii, not the mainland, and indeed, things work differently. As I see it, this is an example of the “ugly American” traveler.
4). No, and I would warn them that what they are doing is potentially dangerous. Who knows, they might not realize it.
5). Protecting Hawaii. Hoards to visitors destroying the natural beauty of a place aren’t good for anyone. Sometimes, measures have to be taken so that that place will still be available to future generations of visitors.
6).D, all of the above. It’s a beautiful place AND has an amazing culture. If you just concentrate on the one you’re missing out on 1/2 of the experience.
1. We respect the signs and placards!
2. Depending on how dynamic the situation is, I may make a comment.
3. We travel to Europe and see this a lot. We enjoy and value the differences.
4. No, learned the hard way!
5. We don’t drive, we use “Da Bus” to get around and love it. As seniors, it’s a great benefit.
6. We have stayed at my sister’s in Hanapepe for months at a time and have assimilated into the
neighborhood and local culture, not exactly Kamaaina, but not Malahini.
These things people complain about happen everywhere. It emphasizes the lack of institutional supervision available on the islands. My guess is once all the tourists complain enough, there will be a big tax assessment somewhere to hire more law enforcement, to keep everyone safe. They’ll probably take away the homeowner/occupant exemption from the property tax. The tourists buy all the real estate anyway.
Interesting list of questions you asked in your post. My husband’s family has been on Oahu since the late 1800’s, and his mom drummed a lot of things into us, which we have passed on to our grandson. One of the most important was to always respect the ocean and NEVER turn your back on it. My husband’s grandfather was swept off the rocks near Makapu’u Point and drowned as his wife and daughter stood by helpless. That taught the family a serious lesson about the power of the ocean.
Concerning the warning signs on Haiku Steps etc., again, tourists fail to realize that they are there for protection and safety. Our son lives not far from there, and many people ignore the warnings. I’m reminded of the warning signs we saw on Kilauea several years ago. Rangers marked out a path to safely treck out to see where lava entered the ocean, and at one point it said that it was unsafe to go farther. We watched as many tourists continued right on by the signs, not realizing that seemingly secure lava benches can collapse and send one right down into molten lava. Many visitors are not familiar with these kinds of hazards, and they ignore them to their own peril.
Thanks for asking interesting questions BOH. I look forward to reading responses.
Hi Lee.
Thanks for helping and for your many comments.
Aloha.
Curious, how many tourists perished in the lava?
I’ve lived in Oahu as well as Maui. I had a flower shop and made it a point to connect with a Host family, and hire local kids. I now have a place in Kauai and still have to inform some tourists about beach safety before I pull them out of dangerous shore break. If I see a tourist let a bag blow in the wind, down the beach. I pick it up. As well as cleaning up garbage any time I see it. South shores generally pick up the most Ocean debris. Add to the land and make us all look good. If we weren’t born on Island, we are not Local, period!
Wow! What a topic. Cheap airfare and poorly educated travelers have worn down too may beautiful spots in the islands. I think the aloha spirit is still alive but is being ground down by travelers who have no respect for a unique culture. How do you share your wonderful islands without being elitist? All I know is that I work to save enough to come back and position myself to live a few weeks or months like a native in one of the greatest places on the planet.
Warm regards,
Hugh the Haole
Hi Hugh.
Thanks for that.
Aloha.
That’s a really funny question. Seems like whenever you get more than one person together, one starts thinking s/he’s better than the other.
HaHaHa.
Thank you so very much for sharing the background for this post. As a former 9+ years resident and frequent visitor since then (mainly because we still own our place in Poipu and have many friends here), I feel somewhat qualified to contribute. So, here goes, according to the comment numbers above:
1. Always respect the local signs and strictly abide by the message.
2. Try to take the visitor aside and explain that the way things are done and behavior is displayed here, particularly in the service industries (in which I worked for seven years), are based on some very deep, cultural values of caring and respect for each other, regardless of one’s station in life.
3. It makes me feel very uncomfortable. As the old saying goes, “When in Rome ….. ”
4. Never, ever! And, remember something else — never turn your back on the ocean!
5. Absolutely protecting Hawaii and for the safety of everyone. Otherwise, chaos can lead to irreparable damage.
6. I want to tap into Hawaiian culture, provided the experiences are genuine and not significantly enhanced to try to impress tourists — Hawaiian culture is so beautiful just as it naturally is!
Hi Geo.
Thanks for giving us a hand.
Aloha.
Whenever I’m on Kauai, I feel like I belong there. I would never think to disrespect the land, the ocean, or the people. As for the signs, they’re for everyone’s safety. They wouldn’t be there if they didn’t have a specific purpose… to save lives. If you ignore them, you could be putting someone else’s life in danger. Have kulelana.
1. I definitely would not chance it. First of all I respect the law and second of all, I respect the land and would not want to jeopardize safety for myself or anyone else.
2. I don’t like it when anyone talks down to anyone. I probably wouldn’t jump in but if I got the same service manager, I would make it a point to leave them a compliment. Just keep in mind that they are trying their best.
3. I can’t imagine what would work differently in Hawaii but it would be uncomfortable or even laughable. I would like to see or hear what that would be.
4. Whenever I see someone doing something unsafe or not respecting the land, it just bugs me. However, sometimes we don’t see the whole picture or understand context. For example, I was in Oahu snorkeling and I had purchased a new face mask that covered my whole face while swimming. As I was out snorkeling, I all of a sudden became very motion sick, felt nauseous and my breathing became very labored. During this somewhat of a panicky situation for me, the only thing I could think of was to get my mask off and get some air. So, I happened to be close to some reef under the water that if I stood with my flippers straight down, it gave me enough space to stand for a minute, regain my composure, get some air, find the closest way to the nearest beach etc. For that 30-45 seconds of standing on the reef, I had (I believe they were a local) someone get made at me for standing on the reef. From their perspective it probably just looked like I was just standing on it for fun. She had no idea what I was really doing. I felt bad for doing it but I really didn’t have much option or at least the frame of mind to not too at the time. I would never purposefully do that. I found out that it was definitely the mask that made me feel ill so I got rid of it. But this is just an example of others not knowing the whole story.
Looks like I ran out of room to comment on the other two questions. Aloha
Hi Russ.
Thanks. Feel free to leave another comment if you’d like. Interesting experience you described. Empathy.
Aloha.
We perceive individuality as holding some exclusive knowlege.
That only impedes the progress of humanity.
We are all visitors.
Rude people are rude and ignorant, whether traveling or shopping at home. Cant change a leopards’ spotS no matter what. Why waste your energy….they assuredly will get theirs, if not already. You can say your peace, aS I do, but dont expect much. I hope I give them poise to thInk at the least. Like the tourist kicking the pigeons on a Kuhio bus stop….i said, where I come from, you would get one year in prison….my comment in front of others…probably on deaf ears…only heard by God, enough said. Rude people will get theirs!
I wouldn’t say I’m an annual repeat visitor but I have been to a few of the islands multiple times since I was a child. The last time I was in Maui, a popular trail was closed and I was bummed out but respected the sign. When I see visitors blatently disrepecting the area they are visiting like some of the people on these forums have been, all that goes through my mind is “you are ruining for the rest of us”. I try my best to do as much homework as possible before my visit so I don’t come across a bummed out situation. I am there to experience the culture but more so to experience the landscapes as my family are avid hikers. Visitors should be in the mindset that they are visiting someone’s home and have NO right to tell them how things should be.
Trails marked closed are marked for a reason. No, I would not go anyway. If there is a limit for parking passes I assume it is to protect the environment. If we don’t protect it no one will get to enjoy its beauty. I love how Hawaii is different. That’s why we come. I enjoy seeing how others do things and disrespecting someone for providing a service to you is unnecessary. As a retired teacher I have provided a service for almost 40 years and regardless of the service they have my respect.I think the saying “Treat others the way you want to be treated” says it all.
My husband and I have been traveling to Hawaii for several years, twice a year when we can, and now we own a home on the Big Island. We always try to be respectful of both the land and the people who live there. When we were visiting the North Shore of Kauai, I was horrified when saw tourists parking on resident’s lawns when parking was limited. When we were on the beach on the Big Island, I had to inform some tourists that it is against the law to harass the turtles! I still consider myself a tourist to Hawaii, even though I have a home there. Please, when visiting these beautiful islands, respect the residents, their property, care for the creatures that call this place home and put your garbage in the can!! Thank you!
Hi Teresa.
Thanks for your comments. Yes, we forget to add the parking problems that previously existed on Kauai’s north shore. Near Tunnels Beach was the worst.
Aloha.
1. I respect signs unless I am with a local
2. If possible, I go the worker later and say how much I respect the job they do and somehow be positive to them
3.If they complain to me, I ask what they look for in a vacation. Why did they choose Hawaii, etc. I feel sorry for them and bless them. I ask the gods to help shift their thinking.
4. I would not just cause someone else does. I have an Algonquin water blessing song I sing a lot.
5. Soooo grateful for limiting access to protect nature.
Aloha!
1)Look for another trail. I do this at home. You should respect where you travel as a visitor even more than at home.
2)First I wince because that is just rude and paints all visitors in a bad light. If it escalates I tell them to back off
3)Uncomfortable! See #2
4)No way.
5)I see it as protecting Hawaii. I will say that if a there are passes left on a given day, you should be able to buy them at the gate. More $ for Hawaii
6)Very little about the beach. We explore and hike Kauai. Always looking for new adventures. Any favorites BOH?
Hi Jon.
Thanks for all the comments. New adventures on Kauai huh? Not sure as it is such a matter of personal preference. We plan to do a Grove Farm ATV tour as friends who have visited loved it. Perennial favorite hikes include Kokee’s Awaawapuhi for its over the top views, among so many others.
Aloha.
BOH –
The Grove Farm Plantation in Kauai is one of the main reasons we’re visiting in December. My husband has extended family that created the plantation. His dad wanted us to visit with him the last couple of years but we never got the chance, he past away from Cancer last April. We haven’t been able to have a ceremony for his passing, so we created this trip that we now postponed to the week of Christmas hoping it all works out.
I love Hawaii. Lives there my kids were born there and one died and his ashes were left in the beautiful ocean by on bellows beach
I hope to return this feb to visit my beautiful bellows . I of course understand why Hawaii is testing why we need to follow rules. I just hope I can get my test done correctly in 72 hrs. I will be flying from Indy to Dallas and on.