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I say do what you have to do to maintain as much of the natural beauty, flora, fauna, and your sanity as possible. It’s your home; we are visitors. People don’t want impolite, rude, obnoxious, law/rule breaking visitors in their homes and this applies to visiting homes away from home as well. Even if there is a monetary price to pay. I would grant them jail time that they have to maintain financially and ban them from ever returning. Plus pay full restitution for any and all damages.
All for it!!
Additional Fees for all those areas mentioned are fine with me. I do not favor being charged extra dollars just to visit the islands. Where I stay on Oahu, I live like a local and do not go to any ‘tourist’ destinations, including Waikiki Beach. I am charged a high amount of taxes on my airfare and lodging. Those $$$ should cover things we all use, like road repair, restrooms in public areas, lifeguard salaries, etc. Just in my humble opinion.
Impact fees on persons traveling to Hawaii——Interesting and self-destroying concept. But who is to say who among persons owning and occupying Hawaii real estate is or is not a “resident” for purposes of charging an impact fee. That’s a slippery slope for sure
When I first read about the possibility of added fees and restrictions for tourists, I felt really disheartened, especially because our son and his husband are coming with us to Maui in 2022 and it’s already an over-the-top destination for them in terms of cost. I also don’t want to end up paying a lot of extra fees, but I’m more accustomed to high costs in Hawaii overall, and my husband and I accept that as just part of the deal because we love Hawaii, and we plan for that cost by cutting spending elsewhere. As several commenters have stated, it’s not just the state of Hawaii looking into – or already – making changes to address high demand at national parks, etc. Some mainland national parks are requiring reservations to limit crowding and impact, and I think many others will follow suit. Many places, like the Grand Canyon, have required permits – for years – for overnight hiking in the canyon, obtained at least a year out – if you’re lucky enough to get one. There are many coastal areas, for example in and around San Diego, where only locals can park with their neighborhood passes to minimize tourist congestion, and tourists must pay to park elsewhere. There is, it seems, always a tension between locals and tourists in those much-in-demand places that we all love, as well as parks and monuments that are in demand because they are so tremendous. We all want to be free to do whatever we want to do at little or no cost … but that just isn’t how things are going to work any more. I’m hopeful that Hawaii will come up with some creative ways to protect it’s environment and the locals so that it can continue to be a wonderful, if expensive, destination for the rest of us. Thanks, BOH, for your wonderful newsletter – so very helpful!
Hi Glenna.
Thanks. We appreciate your thoughtful and numerous comments.
Aloha.
Aloha,
As a frequent visitor to the islands I am finding myself less and less interested in coming back. The more the island complain and increase the costs to visit I am looking elsewhere for our long term vacations. It is with sadness I make this choice but costs are getting out of hand on the islands. We will treasure our past visits. Mahalo
The road to Hana should be limited each day. That road is way to dangerous with tourists looking at the sights out the windows and not watching the road. I would also make it one way with every 2-3 hours switching back and forth. Reservations to drive it could also be an option.
Really getting tired of all the restrictions Hawaii has & now may institute. The cost of airfare, lodging, car rental, food, events, etc. is already outrageous & exorbitant. Now they want to add additional fares !! Only the rich can afford to come. Do they not understand that tourism is vital to their existence ? They had better realize that they are biting the hand that feeds them.
Is this how you lure visitors to come for a visit. Your economy is a disaster and needs all the tourists it can get.
But is it, and do we?
Good points by Leith. I think much of the islands want to cater to the Zuckerberg/Larry Ellison types.
I haven’t been back to Maui for a few years, spending time on other Islands. However, my heart was won in the time I spent learning of Hawaii’s culture and people. I too have spent most of my life in popular tourist areas. I’m not surprised that as COVID restrictions relax, and the population has grown, you are feeling the stretch. To be truthful, the $400 Impact Fee will be seen as a cash grab, and will overall seem like an aggressive anti-tourist move (I am certain some locals feel that anyway at this point). Commerce and Aloha seem to grind against each other here.
With a visitor staying 7 – 14 days, the $400 will not be a deterrent. The trip is already expensive. Indeed, for those who are disrespectful, you’ll create or reinforce a false feeling of entitlement.
If I may propose, your tourism association and local stake holders should agree on a particular number of travelers that would be agreeable on a daily basis. Set up a reservation system online, first come first served. Set up a check point for validation of reservation, perhaps just after the turn off to Haiku,, to allow those without reservation to turn around. Or – if reservations to not total the agreed upon number of visitors allowed for the day, perhaps you can take payment at that time. Make it reasonable amount (Maui residents at no charge!).
You will create another few jobs, with visitors paying the salaries of those at the check points. Your tourism association will not find it too difficult to set up and manage the reservation system. Indeed, you may find you can control not only the numbers, but the times of departure, for a further easing of traffic flow. Of course, the program need not be that complex. I wish the beautiful people and a’ina of Maui much aloha and a wish for peace and prosperity as you share – comfortably – the scenes and story of Maui.
So Maui, which is a tourist destination and relies on tourism for $$ wants to limit the people coming to maui?
They don’t want less money, just less tourists.
The dream is to keep the riff raff out, and only have big spenders who go home without buying any land or homes.
Unlikely to happen, but that’s the dream.
Hi David.
We were wondering where you’d been. Good to hear from you. And thanks for more than 300 comments.
Aloha.
While I definitely understand there may be a reason for some added fees, one of the issues is whether it would truly be utilized to protect resources from overuse and to maintain infrastructure. The moves by the Maui government appear excessive, reactionary, and not well considered as the message is very negative toward tourists. I understand Maui is feeling overwhelmed with the travel surge but this should have been considered as a serious possibility by leadership given pent up travel demands and lack of being able to readily travel outside of US. As someone who travels to Hawaii annually, this would all make the decision to return soon to Maui questionable
Cate, we had to Test to go to Maui and I understand that, but 2 days later we had to test again @ $150 pp to move on to Kauai. People who were fully vaccinated in Hawaii did not have to do this. I have the same CDC card and received the same shots. Why did I have to test again. Additional dollars into the coffers … and it makes no sense at all, just like these type of taxes. Take away the additional unemployment $$ and get those people back to work. We couldn’t eat in restaurants because they had no servers. We couldn’t shop in stores because they closed at 5 pm because they had no workers. The islands opened up and asked us to come. We came at great expense, but couldn’t eat in restaurants or shop in stores. I do not get it.
My wife and have been visiting Maui since 1978.The Maui Lu was the furest south you can go at that time. Know you have resorts all over the west coast. Why has the county and state government over the years allowed this without having the proper infrastructure to handle the increase tourist? Have tourist shuttle like what is used between the Westins to lahiana. We have always respected and supported the local small businesses in Maui but adding fees to visit will reduce what we spend in those businesses.
Its one thing to charge a tax on hotel stays, rental cars, and fees to enter state or national parks, it’s another to charge a tax on people entering the state. Could you imagine if every state on the mainland set up toll booths at the borders to “encourage respect” from people entering? What a money grabbing sham! What about the people who come to the islands for business or family reasons? Will they be taxed because they aren’t residents?
And who will be in charge of allocating that money back to the islands? Will the money end up in the same black hole of ineptitude as all the money the state has been collecting from tourists these many years; I’m betting yes. The state was billions of dollars in debt before the pandemic, and will continue to be in debt for as long as we keep electing the same idiots to office.
Let’s also not forget that the right to travel between states is federally protected and upheld by the supreme court decision Edwards v. The People of the State of California (1941). Creating a barrier to enter a state, whether physical, monetary, or other is prohibited, and would open the state up to litigation.
Hey gang,
Always enjoy the updates! Can’t wait to return to Kauai – in a few months. The next fee we’ll see is a COVID-19 Recovery Fee, probably something no one has thought of as yet. Leave it to the state to issue some unfunded taxes for extra “employment”.
Thanks!
Hi Dale.
Thanks for all of your comments. We’re happy you’ll be returning to Kauai soon, and we appreciate the semi-levity.
Aloha.
Keep increasing fees to vacationers and you”ll chase them away.
FACT: keep it up and the millions collected in TAT tax collection will drastically be reduced however government mismanaged spending will not. Guess where the lost TAT tax revenue will have to come from?
Heres a hint, you locals!!! Your politicians know this and they know they will get their tax money one way or the other.
DO YOU REALLY NOT GET THAT?
Your political leaders prostituted your state to tourism years ago. It was easy money and created jobs but none of you had the sense to understand it came with tourists. You want, you need their money but it comes with strings attached and you are all to far down that road to change it now. Its just a question of how much you all are going to pay.
So be very careful what you ask for.
A tax is a tax is a tax. You can call it anything you want–a fee, a surcharge, a parking or traffic ticket, etc–but it’s still just a tax and it all goes into the same giant government bank account. And Hawaii’s model already is–and always will be–a giant “tax the tourists” system–to pay for their own local expenses and projects–because the islands produce no other significant products or resources other than tourism. And considering how the state and county governments of Hawaii willingly and knowingly drove their own economies straight off a cliff in 2020–blaming it on COVID–costing themselves–and the citizens–untold BILLIONS in taxes and sales revenues–no to mention unemployment payments and the permanent failure of countless businesses–it is no surprise to anyone that their first step in the “recovery” would be to raise existing taxes and / or add new taxes–to pay for their complete mismanagement of the pandemic. The state was $10,000,000,000+ in debt BEFORE the pandemic… I can’t even imagine how much deeper that hole of incompetence has gotten in the past year. It was already a huge burden to the local citizens that will never, ever be resolved–not with the clowns we have running the state and counties at the moment–not the system they have created to keep themselves employed for life regardless of their incompetence.
But there is no question that places like the Road to Hana are a complete cluster f*ck due to years of neglect and mismanagement by the state and county. For decades, millions and millions of tourists have come to Maui and paid billions and billions in hotel, rental car, food and beverage taxes–and very little of that money ever made its way into improving the Road to Hana–or any other tourist attraction on Maui. (It was, instead, squandered on hand-outs to locals in the form of EBT, a huge government bureaucracy, health care, etc.) So now, Maui is saying “we need to tax the tourists even MORE–to pay for all of these
Obviously you don’t live here and haven’t seen the impact first hand.
I totally agree. I’m fortunate enough to be a resident and we lived here for 7 years. We love the tourists and please keep coming. It’s because of the tourists that I pay ridiculous low property taxes. Hey Californians and New Yorkers, guess what we’re paying for property taxes. You’re not going to believe this. Our condo is assessed at $702 K and we’re paying $1500 per year. Repeat, that’s One Thousand five hundred for the entire year. Yes I know, property is expensive as well as the food. However there’s additional benefits such as, local sales taxes are 4.166% and Hawaii doesn’t tax my federal pension nor my wife’s state pension!! So you retirees out there should consider relocating to Hawaii. Keep coming tourists the Islands need the revenues. Mahalo
Hawaii does not tax government pensions, BUT they do tax private pensions (eg., a distribution from your 401K). That was a deal they long ago gave to their public employee unions. That’s one reason there are a lot of retired fire-police personnel that move there. Is a good place to be on a disability pension, as well.
All pensions are equal, but some pensions are more equal than other pensions..
Having just got home to Kansas from Maui on 6/19/21, after a 10 day stay on Maui, at Hona Kai, I think this is significant over reaction. You are assuming the level of tourism will remain at this level. What you are seeing is the increase of travel after no one traveled for over a year. If all things continue to go up in price, as they have been recently, rent, food, gas, housing prices, etc…people will not have the extra money to travel, let alone fees.
We were here 4 years ago, and see a few improvements in the road into Lahaina and a few others… we also went to Haleakala and paid our $30 fee, but we got to use it for 3 days, which only makes it $10 a day if used. We drove the road to Hana as well, and didn’t find it as chaotic as before & felt like the signs worked for the most part.
I say all this to say, some fees make work, but if the funds are not put back into Maui tourism improvements to the airport, roads, etc, people will find other places to go for a lot less money plus and skip the 5 hour flight from CA.
And then Hawaii will be back where it was with the Covid pandemic! No people and no funds. So look at your government spending first!
I love Maui..Have never set out to destroy it’s natural beauty just as I respect the state I live in. But I will change back to visiting the continental USA if they proceed this direction.
I personally don’t have a problem with the islands charging a fee to visit there if they will be used wisely to help the economy recover from the tragic losses they had to endure in the past year. I want the islands to become open to frequent visits and also to see the local population thrive. It’s tragic what they had to endure through all this and any way we can help them recover is a good thing.
I think the fees are a good idea IF the purpose is to maintain the integrity of the island. I’ve seen people and their children have no respect for the beauty that exists. Its not disneyland…
I took a few girls a couple years ago and was astounded about the attitude of my dear friends sisters attitude re reef safe sun screen and recycling…she could have cared less. I live in the high desert of NM and am very conscious of my “footprint’ but she proudly said she left a huge footprint and didn’t care..not inviting her again. We need to preserve the integrity of the islands and the sea life
The fees, fines, and signage on Hana Hwy are not enough. The real problem is too many cars. Also, this article understates how many cars we have to deal with daily…some days it is much much more than 600. It feels like a slap in the face…we see tourists move cones, steal no parking signs, drive down our driveways and private roads to turn around, trespass, litter, use our neighborhoods to relieve themselves, and scream at us about “no aloha” when we ask them to move on. Yes, we know Hana Highway receives federal funds, blah, blah, blah. Perhaps our lawmakers could have it designated as a Unesco world site needing preservation so that you can limit the number of cars before traffic congestion causes a tragedy here. Maybe a hop-on, hop-off bus system for non-residents would also help.
Aloha, I would be so upset if I lived in Hana, that’s disgusting. In 36 years of traveling to Maui, I’ve been to Hana once and took a tour van to get there. It was very beautiful and I enjoyed it immensely, It just doesn’t seem fair to invade the space of people who live there.
We have a condo in West Maui and I simply cannot believe how full the building will way in to 2022. There are simply no vacancies and I just can’t imagine how crazy it will be.
Mahalo BOH for all the information. I forward your newsletter to people all the time.
Lanel
Hi Lanell.
Thanks. And we look forward to hearing from you as well!
Aloha.