In preparation for the inevitability of SST flights to Hawaii, the test aircraft moves west and prepares to fly.
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In preparation for the inevitability of SST flights to Hawaii, the test aircraft moves west and prepares to fly.
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BTDT up through ground school on the Concorde before the interchange program w/ BA and Air France got cancelled just prior to going to France for flight simulator training. The fall of the Shah, high(er) interest rates, a contracting money supply, residual effects of the Middle East oil boycotts, and a general downturn in the economy all came together to crush what was a “fun” SST concept. Sound familiar? We started falling backwards; not moving – or flying – forward. It was a bad idea when “we” tried it w/ BA and Air France and it’s a bad idea now IMO.
SST commercial flights = costs in the extreme — targeted passengers are mostly high-end business/first class pax– limited or no supersonic flights over the USA — noise, and more noise in and around airports requiring $$$ for much larger “noise zones” — much higher fuel consumption than “regular jet transports” — government subsidies WILL be required at some point and the expected return on their investment (sometimes up to 80% on the Concorde) sucked the life out of any expected profitability for the airlines …
I think BOOM is expecting gov’t subsidies — they just don’t say it – yet. Think what would happen to the EV “market” w/out gov’t subsidies and incentives … same-o, same-o.
So it didn’t work then, and based upon that experience and the current state of affairs — don’t see any other outcome anytime soon.
Don’t want to burst anyone’s bubbles … just sayin’. Aloha
Hi Dickie_D.
Thanks very much for that. So you were originally going to fly Concorde! Fascinating.
Aloha.
What is the normal cruising height for these planes?
Until they fix the sonic boom problem, Supersonic travel will never be useful to the masses. If they want to tackle a real problem, set term and age limits on politicians and CEO’s. Old and bad ideas are ruining our economy not to mention the health of our planet and it’s inhumane population.
I am all for Supersonic Hawaii Travel. I was on the concord when it was in Edmonton years ago. The flight was something else. The only thing that was a little scary was when we broke the sound barrier we could smell fuel in the plane. Flying supersonic is the way of the future but I would not be able to afford the price of a ticket.
I sure would I’d rather do that then fly 8 hours from Sacramento to Hawaii when it be done in two
How long ago did you fly to Hawai’i from Sacramento that it took eight hours, please?! On our last flight to the mainland, the pilot made it in just under five!
Definitely better than taking the train.
The competition is subsonic business class. SF to SYD $7500 for 7 hours in a seat vs. $3500 for 16 hours in a lie flat business class bed seat. Many would choose the bed even if the prices were equal. You get there 9 hours later but with 8 hours of it sleeping. The numbers don’t favor Boom.
Price isn’t right. You can get 2 first class r/t tickets from LAX for $2,200. Not worth the time difference, plus I’m sure you’ll be cramped up for those 2.25 hours.
Wonder what it would cost to HNL flying out of Atlanta? Heck yes! I’d give it a try! WAAAY Mo Bedda than the whole day I spend flying home now.
Wow !
NY to London will be quicker than driving from
Newcastle to Brighton.
The engines are once again under the wing behind the gear. Have we learned nothing from the Concorde disaster?
Let us hope that it will be configured with a less cramped interior than concorde.
Mahalo for this exciting and informative article. I’d definitely give it a try if I could afford it, but the cost will keep SST available to only the very well-to-do for years to come.
Go for it , we need that kind of business in hawaii ,we would use it, waiting to see if it will happen, we will keep all our leaders updated. Aloha and Mahalo
The crazies with no skin in the game will find every reason to kill it.
The fuel has me a bit worried – too much, too fast?
Would I fly it to Hawaii from LA, absolutely, especially if it didn’t fly out of LAX. To avoid the LAX nightmare, I now fly to HNL from Ontario. Worse plane, higher fare, but easy in and out.
Too expensive for me.
Fascinating article. Will definitely buy a ticket to get to Hawaii at super sonic speed. Beautiful aircraft
Hawaii people will still complain how much it costs. Supersonic travel is for business, not for leisure travel. Plus, United pulled out of the HNL to Japan market. It’s more cost effective to have airlines fly slower planes to leisure markets.
This would be great to see!
I don’t see it flying between Hawaii and Australia. Due to time zone differences, there would be limited times the aircraft could depart one city in order to arrive at a decent time at the other city.
Potential prices way too high. Don’t know at what point I would consider it. Unless I win the lottery.
Wow – we would love to fly supersonic to Hawaii- Hawaiian Airlines from SMF to HNL would be terrific- 2 1/4 hour flight time is great – hopefully the airport infrastructure will be able to handle this aircraft with ease and pilots and crew would be available too.
Sydney is too far away from Hawaii. Over 5,000 miles. It would be nice to know the length of runway needed to land and takeoff.
Since i live in california two hours to hawaii. I would try that flight if it happened……
I had no idea of this at all until this article! OMG, 2 hours to Hawaii would be so awesome 😎