134 thoughts on “Are You The Tourist Hawaii Wants? New Study.”
Ernie S.
Hi Rich, I must be one of the Few People who listened to John Kerry’s speech, interview, recently. If you had you wouldn’t have bothered mentioning tiki torches. Seems that the “Climate Change Scientists” have decided that Co2 was never the Offender that they Claimed. They have now chosen to abandon That in Favor of Eliminating Methane! This should help you sleep better at night. Methane, so Everything that Decays is now a Target. Maybe in 2 decades it will be Radon. I get the feeling that the Lies will keep on coming.
Ernie, just to be clear, you can hear or read into anything you want about climate change and god knows it’s been politicized and used by cable news to enhance viewership…..but the simple fact is the overwhelming majority of scientists who could care less about politics and have spent their lives studying the actual data are pretty much unanimous that global warming is a very serious and immediate problem. It may not effect you much but it certainly is important to the next generation.
Ed, it appears you think something as complex as environmental science can be debated in a couple paragraphs and settled? Might explain why you believe Internet “facts” over the work of unbiased experts with way more experience and education in the field then you or I. There’s a lot of people making money out there by spreading misinformation on the Internet as well as big money that resists anything that could effect their bottom line. I go with the experts over the special interest folks on this. Don’t know about you but I have kids whose future I care deeply about.
Hey JohnW, I go with the experts as well and there are just as many “experts” that say Climate change is a hoax! So you keep believing your “experts” and I will keep believing mine. The same goes for you, my point of view can not be explained away, or discounted, any more than yours can. This debate will last forever. You know like: What came first, the Chicken, or the Egg? Have a great rest of your day JohnW!
Here you get Ed, if you want to listen to the 3% that’s your choice. But your choices are your legacy.
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Ed.D.
3 percent? Not hardly. I suppose that you believed Al Gore when he said the world was going to end due to global warming back in the 80’s. Here we are in 2022 and we are all still here. He supposedly was parroting the “experts” even then. But again, here we are!
Kerry and Gore travel around the world in their luxury jets while the rest of us are fighting just to survive.
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JohnW
Ed, you didn’t read my link, it was NASA stating that 97% of published climate scientists agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change. So not my opinion, just putting out what NASA says.
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Ed D.
NASA is a space agency, not exactly the end all when it comes to global warming. Also the 97% of “published climate scientists” is not 97% of “all” scientists. Is the climate changing? No doubt! Has climate changed since the beginning of time? Yes! Will climate continue to change until the end of time? Yes! Has human existence caused climate change? We might have contributed some but it still would have changed anyway.
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DavidPasstheHeinzKetchup B
You listed to a John Kerry speech?? Why not just hit yourself in the forehead over and over with a hammer? Would be over sooner, and not hurt as much.
That’s it Ernie! Now you’ve done it! You told the truth about the “climate change Pushers” and now you will probably end up on their list! Keep up the good work!
Where do I begin?
I am 78 years old with a wife who is also 78. We have owned a timeshare and enjoyed its benefits for over forty years.
Before there was even a word for it, we and our young children picked up trash as we climbed up to the top of Diamondhead.
Do I want to do that or anything close to that? NO!
Furthermore, my son and his children in their correspondigly early fifties and late twenties, would probably have a similar opinion.
A vacation is a vacation not simply a change in work venue.
Hawaii has over the years benefited from tourism. If current social and political trends aim to destroy that I feel it is only end in a very tragic state of fairs for Hawaiians and tourists alike!
Just saw an email that shows a post by Pat that describes the same thing I am experiencing. Large numbers of responses are not showing up when the story is opened.
Can’t see if anyone took my attempt at humor on this one seriously!
I think it is a great idea. My wife and I have been to Maui 4 times and we took our sons to the Big Island last year. We would love to give back by cleaning beaches or such. Really what is one day out of a 2 week vacation. Great opportunity to connect with locals, I love the idea of helping keep Hawaii beautiful and Hawaiian!
Another solution looking for a problem. Mandated work details would be impossible to implement and enforce. It will do nothing to eliminate crowding and congestion. How about using carrots instead of always dreaming up new sticks to beat tourists with? Why not put equal intellectual horsepower towards ways to incentivize tourist behaviors through financial and community benefits (free transit rides, restaurant discounts, rebates, cultural awareness and education, etc.). Stop trying to punish the many for the sins of the few. Catch the offenders and make them clean up the beaches.
I agree with you 100% Randy! How about fining our gov. for disposing 53 Million Gallons of Wastewater into our Ocean ona daily basis? Our Gov and Military facilities should be used to help eliminate waste and Pollution. Instead of blamimg tourists and expecting them to take care of our problems, Let’s start with our Government! Maybe we need to charge tourists a “waste tax”? Everything else is taxed, why not waste?
I think all of the ads displaying in your site might be screwing up the display of your comments, at least on IOS. It says there are 58 comments right now, but I only see 3-10, even when I select the “older comments” link. Can you fix this?
Thanks!
I noticed this issue earlier as well, but thought it may have something to do with the browser I was using on my phone (ABP). But in accessing your website via a Mac Mini using Firefox, I noticed the same behaviour. The first page would list a number of comments and indicate older comments existed so when I clicked on the older comments link, the next page only had a small number of comments (3 – 5) but that page also had the older comments link as well. Clicking on that older comments link took me back to the first page of the article and I saw the Leave a Comment link (as if no comments had been posted). Does that help?
Thank you too. We appreciate you guys all jumping in to help. We believe the problem has been fixed. It resulted from a performance upgrade we did. As we said, technology is wonderful, but only when it is. ugg.
As a frequent visitor to Kauai, I have noticed that far less is done to change to electric vehicles both for rentals and island residents when compared to Honolulu. Perhaps this is an area where Kauai could improve?
Totally unrelated, how good for the environment are all the tiki torches burning away every night? Is there a carbon neutral fuel that could be used for those?
I live in BI and I enjoy travelling to the mainland. If there was a network I could join to travel and work to learn about other climates and regional regenerative efforts I would be very interested. Obviously, I don’t expect to be doing anything back breaking or dangerous, however, some tree planting or stream restoration would be an excellent way to meet like minded folks. Accommodation should be appropriate to my comfort level and cleanliness.
I prefer to stay in small mountain towns. I can only sit by the pool for so long and hiking doesn’t always appeal. I would be happy to help out with local projects just to learn. A system of guest ratings similar to AIRBNB so project leaders can award me with good stars.
There is nothing wrong with Eco-tourism per se. But it should be the choice of the tourist not a dictate of the government. If the business has a business model that works with an interested clientele, it will thrive. If not, it is a type of authoritarian social scoring or marxism.
Social Scoring System – definition:
“The social credit system is an extension of the risk assessment credit rating systems that were introduced in China in the 1980s. Proponents argue that it will help eliminate problems such as food safety issues, intellectual property theft, violation of labor law, financial infidelity, and counterfeit goods.”
…or in this case travel only by the right kind of “regenerative” people.
Mark P, I am totally surprised that there is anyone that would be okay with this nonsense. But yet, here we are, there are several on here that would go along with it. What’s next? If they are creating a program for volunteers, that is one thing. But if they attempt to make it mandatory, that is a totally different issue. It will never fly legally!
Here’s something we agree on Ed! Just gave you a thumbs up. I don’t see any possible rational that could justify making it a mandate. Seems ludicrous to me and I have to question if we are making much ado about nothing. Perhaps the proposal is to simply make eco tourism more attractive and a viable option, that’s great, but forcing it on people is absurd and self defeating to the need to get everyone appreciative of the importance of taking care of the planet. It would just divide us further and hurt the economy that provides the resources needed for supporting the environment.
Glad to see we agree on that. As I said above, I can not believe that anyone would view this as a positive proposal. Unless of course, it is voluntary. Oh well, it takes all kinds of people to make a World.
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Hi Rich, I must be one of the Few People who listened to John Kerry’s speech, interview, recently. If you had you wouldn’t have bothered mentioning tiki torches. Seems that the “Climate Change Scientists” have decided that Co2 was never the Offender that they Claimed. They have now chosen to abandon That in Favor of Eliminating Methane! This should help you sleep better at night. Methane, so Everything that Decays is now a Target. Maybe in 2 decades it will be Radon. I get the feeling that the Lies will keep on coming.
Ernie, just to be clear, you can hear or read into anything you want about climate change and god knows it’s been politicized and used by cable news to enhance viewership…..but the simple fact is the overwhelming majority of scientists who could care less about politics and have spent their lives studying the actual data are pretty much unanimous that global warming is a very serious and immediate problem. It may not effect you much but it certainly is important to the next generation.
Yeah Johnw, the Oceans will rise 1/10th of an inch over the next 100 Years. Prove different?
Ed, it appears you think something as complex as environmental science can be debated in a couple paragraphs and settled? Might explain why you believe Internet “facts” over the work of unbiased experts with way more experience and education in the field then you or I. There’s a lot of people making money out there by spreading misinformation on the Internet as well as big money that resists anything that could effect their bottom line. I go with the experts over the special interest folks on this. Don’t know about you but I have kids whose future I care deeply about.
Hey JohnW, I go with the experts as well and there are just as many “experts” that say Climate change is a hoax! So you keep believing your “experts” and I will keep believing mine. The same goes for you, my point of view can not be explained away, or discounted, any more than yours can. This debate will last forever. You know like: What came first, the Chicken, or the Egg? Have a great rest of your day JohnW!
climate.nasa.gov/faq/17/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/
Here you get Ed, if you want to listen to the 3% that’s your choice. But your choices are your legacy.
3 percent? Not hardly. I suppose that you believed Al Gore when he said the world was going to end due to global warming back in the 80’s. Here we are in 2022 and we are all still here. He supposedly was parroting the “experts” even then. But again, here we are!
Kerry and Gore travel around the world in their luxury jets while the rest of us are fighting just to survive.
Ed, you didn’t read my link, it was NASA stating that 97% of published climate scientists agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change. So not my opinion, just putting out what NASA says.
NASA is a space agency, not exactly the end all when it comes to global warming. Also the 97% of “published climate scientists” is not 97% of “all” scientists. Is the climate changing? No doubt! Has climate changed since the beginning of time? Yes! Will climate continue to change until the end of time? Yes! Has human existence caused climate change? We might have contributed some but it still would have changed anyway.
You listed to a John Kerry speech?? Why not just hit yourself in the forehead over and over with a hammer? Would be over sooner, and not hurt as much.
That’s it Ernie! Now you’ve done it! You told the truth about the “climate change Pushers” and now you will probably end up on their list! Keep up the good work!
Do you have a reference for this assertion?
Where do I begin?
I am 78 years old with a wife who is also 78. We have owned a timeshare and enjoyed its benefits for over forty years.
Before there was even a word for it, we and our young children picked up trash as we climbed up to the top of Diamondhead.
Do I want to do that or anything close to that? NO!
Furthermore, my son and his children in their correspondigly early fifties and late twenties, would probably have a similar opinion.
A vacation is a vacation not simply a change in work venue.
Hawaii has over the years benefited from tourism. If current social and political trends aim to destroy that I feel it is only end in a very tragic state of fairs for Hawaiians and tourists alike!
FWIW, what I just posted did in fact show more responses while it was in “waiting for moderation” mode….. seems to be an intermittent issue.
Hi John.
Thanks. Yes, we made some changes this week for faster performance, and this seems to be a related issue.
ALoha.
Working now!
Hi John.
Thanks so much for your help with this. It’s a long story, but technology is great when it works. Leave it at that.
Aloha.
Thanks for fixing it so fast.
Just saw an email that shows a post by Pat that describes the same thing I am experiencing. Large numbers of responses are not showing up when the story is opened.
Can’t see if anyone took my attempt at humor on this one seriously!
I think it is a great idea. My wife and I have been to Maui 4 times and we took our sons to the Big Island last year. We would love to give back by cleaning beaches or such. Really what is one day out of a 2 week vacation. Great opportunity to connect with locals, I love the idea of helping keep Hawaii beautiful and Hawaiian!
Another solution looking for a problem. Mandated work details would be impossible to implement and enforce. It will do nothing to eliminate crowding and congestion. How about using carrots instead of always dreaming up new sticks to beat tourists with? Why not put equal intellectual horsepower towards ways to incentivize tourist behaviors through financial and community benefits (free transit rides, restaurant discounts, rebates, cultural awareness and education, etc.). Stop trying to punish the many for the sins of the few. Catch the offenders and make them clean up the beaches.
I agree with you 100% Randy! How about fining our gov. for disposing 53 Million Gallons of Wastewater into our Ocean ona daily basis? Our Gov and Military facilities should be used to help eliminate waste and Pollution. Instead of blamimg tourists and expecting them to take care of our problems, Let’s start with our Government! Maybe we need to charge tourists a “waste tax”? Everything else is taxed, why not waste?
To BOH:
I think all of the ads displaying in your site might be screwing up the display of your comments, at least on IOS. It says there are 58 comments right now, but I only see 3-10, even when I select the “older comments” link. Can you fix this?
Thanks!
Hi Pat.
Thanks! We will check.
Aloha.
PatG and BOH,
I noticed this issue earlier as well, but thought it may have something to do with the browser I was using on my phone (ABP). But in accessing your website via a Mac Mini using Firefox, I noticed the same behaviour. The first page would list a number of comments and indicate older comments existed so when I clicked on the older comments link, the next page only had a small number of comments (3 – 5) but that page also had the older comments link as well. Clicking on that older comments link took me back to the first page of the article and I saw the Leave a Comment link (as if no comments had been posted). Does that help?
Hi Warren.
Thank you too. We appreciate you guys all jumping in to help. We believe the problem has been fixed. It resulted from a performance upgrade we did. As we said, technology is wonderful, but only when it is. ugg.
Aloha.
BOH,
All seems to be back to normal in this thread – mahalo for the updates!
Hello BOH, I have printed a few comments but none of them are showing. Am I in “time out”, or something like it?
Hi Ed.
There is a technical issue with comments at the moment that we will resolve as quickly as possible.
Aloha.
As a frequent visitor to Kauai, I have noticed that far less is done to change to electric vehicles both for rentals and island residents when compared to Honolulu. Perhaps this is an area where Kauai could improve?
Totally unrelated, how good for the environment are all the tiki torches burning away every night? Is there a carbon neutral fuel that could be used for those?
I live in BI and I enjoy travelling to the mainland. If there was a network I could join to travel and work to learn about other climates and regional regenerative efforts I would be very interested. Obviously, I don’t expect to be doing anything back breaking or dangerous, however, some tree planting or stream restoration would be an excellent way to meet like minded folks. Accommodation should be appropriate to my comfort level and cleanliness.
I prefer to stay in small mountain towns. I can only sit by the pool for so long and hiking doesn’t always appeal. I would be happy to help out with local projects just to learn. A system of guest ratings similar to AIRBNB so project leaders can award me with good stars.
Why not?
There is nothing wrong with Eco-tourism per se. But it should be the choice of the tourist not a dictate of the government. If the business has a business model that works with an interested clientele, it will thrive. If not, it is a type of authoritarian social scoring or marxism.
Social Scoring System – definition:
“The social credit system is an extension of the risk assessment credit rating systems that were introduced in China in the 1980s. Proponents argue that it will help eliminate problems such as food safety issues, intellectual property theft, violation of labor law, financial infidelity, and counterfeit goods.”
…or in this case travel only by the right kind of “regenerative” people.
Mark P, I am totally surprised that there is anyone that would be okay with this nonsense. But yet, here we are, there are several on here that would go along with it. What’s next? If they are creating a program for volunteers, that is one thing. But if they attempt to make it mandatory, that is a totally different issue. It will never fly legally!
Here’s something we agree on Ed! Just gave you a thumbs up. I don’t see any possible rational that could justify making it a mandate. Seems ludicrous to me and I have to question if we are making much ado about nothing. Perhaps the proposal is to simply make eco tourism more attractive and a viable option, that’s great, but forcing it on people is absurd and self defeating to the need to get everyone appreciative of the importance of taking care of the planet. It would just divide us further and hurt the economy that provides the resources needed for supporting the environment.
Glad to see we agree on that. As I said above, I can not believe that anyone would view this as a positive proposal. Unless of course, it is voluntary. Oh well, it takes all kinds of people to make a World.