56 thoughts on “Nine Hawaii Flight Diversions Led To National No-Fly Plan”
moondriver
You act like an idiot on a flight, you never fly again. Americans are going to have to grow up and follow the rules, even when it comes to temper tantrums. There is no excuse for morons who act up on an airplanes.
In regards to a National No-Fly list, my answer is an unequivocally, unforgiving, Absolutely!!
There’s no excuse for bad behavior on a plane!
Ban those individuals for life. After all they’re risking everyone’s life by assault on anyone on a flight.
I promise that a person trying to cause an incident with any flight attendant, will be swiftly dealt with by my ohana or myself.
This behavior is unacceptable.
Enforcement is an entirely different situation.
Mahalo Nui Loa Beat of Hawaii.
Much Aloha always
My initial reaction was no, but it has become so commonplace now we need to do something. I’d support such a law with a sunset clause. I also believe a public shame awareness board and the suspension would be for minimum 1 year to maximum 10 years.
If people choose to misbehave on a flight, endangering the crew and the rest of the passengers, they are free to take a train, or bus, or hitchhike, whichever they choose. Ground ’em!!
yes I think there should be clear cut definitions And evidence-phone videos etc. and then yes banned. or banned for a year for example. there just be consequences for this behavior.
They should be banned for life, required to pay for the extra cost of diverting the flight and serve some “hard time” in solitary confinement in a federal prison (at the least).
We don’t need people like these yahoo’s on any flight.
I support it 100%. There seems to be a due process element, at least in the proposal. If you’re gonna act the fool on the plane then you don’t deserve to fly.
That being said I do agree with the ACLU that the airlines need to also focus on making flying a lot less miserable an experience unless one fly business class or first class or even an economy plus type class
I’d guess that most instances are more related to alcohol. Perhaps a ‘blood alcohol level’ test at the gate would be more helpful. Some drink before the airport, then again while waiting in lounges or bars. So a breathalyzer test at the gate would weed out potential troublemakers.
I’m for a no-fly list for those convicted of violent acts.
Definitely in favor of an unruly passenger no fly list. The comment by the ACLU is laughable, if not downright absurd. All airline passengers should be thankful that all airlines do not handle security the way the Israeli airlines do, although, that is probably coming, if these type of events continue.
A Hawaii trip is a dream trip for most people who have to save money a long time to be able to afford such an expensive vacation. Yes I approve of a no fly list. I hope it would encourage people to act civil on a flights. Hotels have these lists so that anybody who disrespects other guests right to enjoy their stay will not be booked by them again. The airlines should follow this same policy. Also, some of these interruptions are a danger to everybody on a plane. We should no longer tolerate it. There should be a recourse for people for people who think they were put on a No Fly list unfairly.
I agree with the no fly list there should be a no exceptions policy to unlawful behavior endangering passengers and crew. Tell them to “take the boat”. The ship will have a capable crew and brig to take care of business.
I agree with the no fly list there should be a no exceptions policy to unlawful behavior endangering passengers and crew. tTell them to “take the boat”. The ship will have a capable crew and brig to take care of business.
1. No more alcohol served on flights.
2. All passengers 21 yrs old and over must take breathalyzer test at boarding gate: blow over the legal limit and you forfeit your ticket, or maybe are allowed to board a later flight if seats are available.
I’m not against drinking alcohol per se, but intoxicated passengers in a pressurized aluminum tube flying at near supersonic speeds at 35,000 feet are a hazard to all passengers and crew. Their rights to public intoxication ends where my right to basic safety begins. Cheers!
I think a No-Fly list along with heavy fines is a great idea. The issue is that how will it be managed? it can’t be the gate or ticketing agent informing the potential passenger otherwise those agents will have to deal with an unruly individual and it could be a safety issue. There needs to be more screening of information on a passenger ticket at the time of purchase. But what if the purchase is at the ticket counter? then what? What if the person is mid-travel and become a problem and is placed on the no-fly list? So many potential problems can arise.
The first step towards a solution is affirmative action agains the passenger – arrest, detainment, steep fines, etc. Right now, there is no accountability.
You act like an idiot on a flight, you never fly again. Americans are going to have to grow up and follow the rules, even when it comes to temper tantrums. There is no excuse for morons who act up on an airplanes.
In regards to a National No-Fly list, my answer is an unequivocally, unforgiving, Absolutely!!
There’s no excuse for bad behavior on a plane!
Ban those individuals for life. After all they’re risking everyone’s life by assault on anyone on a flight.
I promise that a person trying to cause an incident with any flight attendant, will be swiftly dealt with by my ohana or myself.
This behavior is unacceptable.
Enforcement is an entirely different situation.
Mahalo Nui Loa Beat of Hawaii.
Much Aloha always
My initial reaction was no, but it has become so commonplace now we need to do something. I’d support such a law with a sunset clause. I also believe a public shame awareness board and the suspension would be for minimum 1 year to maximum 10 years.
If people choose to misbehave on a flight, endangering the crew and the rest of the passengers, they are free to take a train, or bus, or hitchhike, whichever they choose. Ground ’em!!
I’m OK with it as long as the list is transparent. Everyone involved knows they are on it.
Also – there must be an arbitration hearing first before someone goes on it as well as a mechanism to appeal.
I would also like to see a time limit of 2 years.
yes I think there should be clear cut definitions And evidence-phone videos etc. and then yes banned. or banned for a year for example. there just be consequences for this behavior.
Mary m
A Question: Why does TSA etc take away nail clippers, small pen knives and the like but let 1st class have metal utensils including knives???
American has plastic forks and knives in first/business class.
Nail clippers are fine, just took them through on my carry ons three days ago.
Separate from the FBI list
Appeal process
Not permanent
Possible term limit
Seems like a good idea. There has to be a real penalty process for bad behavior.
They should be banned for life, required to pay for the extra cost of diverting the flight and serve some “hard time” in solitary confinement in a federal prison (at the least).
We don’t need people like these yahoo’s on any flight.
I support it 100%. There seems to be a due process element, at least in the proposal. If you’re gonna act the fool on the plane then you don’t deserve to fly.
That being said I do agree with the ACLU that the airlines need to also focus on making flying a lot less miserable an experience unless one fly business class or first class or even an economy plus type class
I am not sure it’s needed but the airport bars need to stop over serving. I think that would help more.
I’d guess that most instances are more related to alcohol. Perhaps a ‘blood alcohol level’ test at the gate would be more helpful. Some drink before the airport, then again while waiting in lounges or bars. So a breathalyzer test at the gate would weed out potential troublemakers.
I’m for a no-fly list for those convicted of violent acts.
Definitely in favor of an unruly passenger no fly list. The comment by the ACLU is laughable, if not downright absurd. All airline passengers should be thankful that all airlines do not handle security the way the Israeli airlines do, although, that is probably coming, if these type of events continue.
The ACLU is on the right track.
A Hawaii trip is a dream trip for most people who have to save money a long time to be able to afford such an expensive vacation. Yes I approve of a no fly list. I hope it would encourage people to act civil on a flights. Hotels have these lists so that anybody who disrespects other guests right to enjoy their stay will not be booked by them again. The airlines should follow this same policy. Also, some of these interruptions are a danger to everybody on a plane. We should no longer tolerate it. There should be a recourse for people for people who think they were put on a No Fly list unfairly.
I agree with the no fly list there should be a no exceptions policy to unlawful behavior endangering passengers and crew. Tell them to “take the boat”. The ship will have a capable crew and brig to take care of business.
I agree with the no fly list there should be a no exceptions policy to unlawful behavior endangering passengers and crew. tTell them to “take the boat”. The ship will have a capable crew and brig to take care of business.
1. No more alcohol served on flights.
2. All passengers 21 yrs old and over must take breathalyzer test at boarding gate: blow over the legal limit and you forfeit your ticket, or maybe are allowed to board a later flight if seats are available.
I’m not against drinking alcohol per se, but intoxicated passengers in a pressurized aluminum tube flying at near supersonic speeds at 35,000 feet are a hazard to all passengers and crew. Their rights to public intoxication ends where my right to basic safety begins. Cheers!
I am all for the No Fly list; keep trouble makers out of the airlines!
Not only should there be a no-fly list, but troublemakers should also be forced to bear the cost of a flight diversion caused by their actions.
I think a No-Fly list along with heavy fines is a great idea. The issue is that how will it be managed? it can’t be the gate or ticketing agent informing the potential passenger otherwise those agents will have to deal with an unruly individual and it could be a safety issue. There needs to be more screening of information on a passenger ticket at the time of purchase. But what if the purchase is at the ticket counter? then what? What if the person is mid-travel and become a problem and is placed on the no-fly list? So many potential problems can arise.
The first step towards a solution is affirmative action agains the passenger – arrest, detainment, steep fines, etc. Right now, there is no accountability.