All sides of the issues addressed, on the return of Hawaii tourism, in today’s post.
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All sides of the issues addressed, on the return of Hawaii tourism, in today’s post.
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Thank you for your empathy. Realize that the people throughout the State of Hawaii applaud your kindness. We are not trying to be rude or disrespectful. We are all going through tough times because of this crisis. The warmth given will be t
Returned back in more ways than you can imagine. When it is safe, please return back and enjoy all that Hawaii has to offer. Mahalo nui loa.
Closing the beaches makes no sense. With such a low infection rate …there is no need for their draconian measure.
40% of the state unemployed. Politicians and bureaucrats are getting full salary. They have no regard for common people without jobs and food. There more deaths due to opioid and drunk driving in Hawaii but they have not stopped car driving on the road or prescription of hydtocorone.
Wake up Hawaii politicians. Use data analytics and stop the stupid things like closing the beaches, parks and demand quar antine.
“There more deaths due to opioid and drunk driving in Hawaii but they have not stopped car driving on the road or prescription of hydtocorone.”
Addicts can’t pass on their fatal addiction to others by being near them in a supermarket, etc.
Drunk drivers can’t infect others with drunk driving by driving near them or being near them in a supermarket, etc.
Major difference.
Everyone has been scared out of their Cotton Pickin gourds by all of this craziness. The same people are at greater risk for are at greater risk for the flu with the same consequences. Those same folks should be the ones taking the precautions to protect themselves, keep their distance, stay at home, Etc. Realistically, if things don’t open up and get moving economically again, everywhere, we are all sunk. We won’t have to worry about where we’re going to go on our next vacation. And pity an economy like that of Hawaii. No visitors, no jobs, nothing. That’s what we really should be in fear of. My 2 cents. I don’t mean to offend. Thanks to all for an interesting thread.
Colleen….you are right on. But Hawaii politicians don’t believe in logic or data analytics. They are hurting their own people
“The same people are at greater risk for are at greater risk for the flu with the same consequences.”
It’s sad to see people repeat this totally wrong idea.
The flu: unlike this, people with no symptoms don’t infect others.
The flu: unlike this, patients don’t end up on respirators for days or weeks, dying a horrible death.
this: does lasting damage to multiple organs, including lungs, heart, liver, kidneys and G-I tract. The flu does not.
this: death rate is at least TEN TIMES higher than the flu.
So please, learn the facts and repeat them.
I don’t think you read my post closely. I just mentioned that the SAME PEOPLE ARE AT RISK for dying of this as FOR the flu. There are a few (small percentage) of persons with no co morbidity issues who sicken and die but the vast majority are the elderly and those with secondary health issues. The flu can be just as deadly – therefore my comment that those at highest risk should take precautions to protect themselves. Others should help out by staying home when ill. And I realize that in both cases, this and flu – one does not always know when they are contagious.
I don’t think it makes sense to cripple the worlds economy when those most vulnerable can protect themselves by staying home away from people. My sister who has serious COPD has been doing this self isolation for years now. Everyone will learn from this experience. Even with the the push for flu shots, the incidence and death rates are still very high year after year.
I feel for those who have been sick and even more so for those who grieve for loss of family and friends to do this illness. But, as my mother used to say “sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.” I certainly hope not. Take care everyone and yes, we are playing by the rules. Going out only when needed, washing, disinfecting, wearing masks, staying home and away from people.
I realize that this debate will never end. So, I will exit this discussion now.
I am supporting the planet and the living beings that live on it. I am staying-in-place in California. I have left my house a handful of times to get groceries or take food to my mom. If anyone from my family needs to get out, we go hang out in the backyard or front yard. We aren’t protesting or crying. We are trying to do our part. This is a serious matter and it is sad and very concerning that some people don’t understand and think that this is a hoax. The problem is that many of the non-believers haven’t seen the effects first hand or don’t know anyone who has experience with it. Those are the people who will negate all of the stay-at-home efforts and will overwhelm the hospitals. This is not the time for selfishness or ignorance. All that is being asked of you is to stay home. Last year, when you were at work, how many times did you think “I wish I could be at home right now”? This time we have the opportunity to help our fellow man/woman. Power to the people. Everyday we have the power to help forge the way to a better future. As always, and now, more than ever, we need to be unified on the planet we share…our planet…Earth.
God bless the people of Hawaii. I have a time share on the big island and look forward to going there in December when things get better. Capt Mike in Ventura 🚓
I born raise in Honolulu I don’t care who comes here only God owns this island.and they have lots of Hawaii people live mainland to it’s both ways.
AMEN. ❤
To everyone both residents and out state visitors. There are no reasons why any one would want to violate laws and mandates from the State of Hawaii. If you think still of coming into Hawaii and its many communities, realize that it is selfish and feeling of entitlement. Start thinking and practicing kindness and respect for others. Anything else are sad excuses. Yes, Hawaii is called the Aloha* State. ALOHA has many definitions (look them up). Postpone your plans and we can all try to help one another. Travel Agencies should know better. Hawaii will ways be here. Thank you.
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This is another comment where the person needs to do the research about the particular issue and critically think.
1. Most people with the flu do not go to the hospital. It is something that can be managed at home. With this, if you are not put on a ventilator when it is needed, you will die.
2. The availability of ventilators and hospital beds has been what has kept our numbers down. However, look at pics in NYC or other places that are readily available from news sources. The emergency rooms are stuffed and people are dying in a chair in the hall waiting to be see.
3. The flu is not nearly contagious as this and the whole reason we have kept numbers down is the strict containment issues. You do not get the flu from walking down the street past someone or touching a door knob. The vi rus itself lives on many surfaces for a much longer period of time than the normal flu. When someone has the flu, they know it. Someone can have this and be a carrier and spread the disease with no symptoms.
4. If we didn’t do containment the hospitals would be overrun and there would not be enough beds or ventilators and then if people got it the chance of dying would be much, much worse.
5. In the USA we have had over 41,000 deaths in less than 3 months. If this rate continued or escalated due to lack of containment, we would have many more deaths than we have of flu. Our current rate has already passed the rate for regular flu last year.
6, The part you don’t get is that there is not containment, a huge number more people would die because of lack of equipment. In a place like Kauai with only about 12 ventilators and over 70,000 residents plus all the visitors we get each month (which in winter are over 100,000 a month), if you get sick, your chances of getting a ventilator would be next to none and you would die.
Please educate yourself. Ignorance will kill you.
They say it’s about saving lives? There have been 10 fatalities. You would probably get the same if it was the flu. 90% of those infected will have minor cold syptoms. Stop being hysterical. Look at the numbers. Less than 600 cases in the state. Out of 1.4; million people.
There have been only ten fatalities precisely because of the restrictions. Same for the relatively low number of cases overall.
Look at Sweden: they didn’t restrict people very much. Now their death rate per million people is much higher than the US, and over three times higher than some of their neighboring countries who took semi-lockdown measures. It’s kind of obvious: if you don’t get near someone who is carrying the disease, you don’t get the disease. And this isn’t like the flu; people who get a bad case end up with organ damage, amputations, etc. – if they survive.
If Hawai’i opened the floodgates to tourism like before, the result would be a disaster.
The good news is that a lot of people just don’t want to get on an airplane with a couple of hundred other people right now. Why risk your health or your life for a couple of weeks of sunshine? Just not worth it.
The big problem obviously is jobs, but if everyone starts getting sick those jobs aren’t going to be there anyway.
We were planning on coming back for a visit at the end of June. But, out of an abundance of caution for everyone, e are going to postpone for now. But, don’t worry, we will be back!