16 thoughts on “Do These Bad Passenger Behaviors On Hawaii Flights Rankle You?”
Victoria B
Many years ago the storage bin above Your seat was yours. I don’t know when this stopped being the case but it would sure stop a lot of frustration if this was true today. Every seat has a overhead bin so why is it people don’t use them instead of using someone else’s space. As far as alcohol use I think a two drink limit is reasonable…most people drink responsibly but it only takes one to disrupt an entire flight because of too many drinks.
I fly a lot for business, and I see all of those things, and worse. People just don’t care about anyone but themselves these days, take a look at the comments below from Eldo R. as an example with his extensive use if “I” and his dismissal of “you”. But the airlines don’t really help the situation either. For example, the boarding issue. The other airline’s could adopt the Southwest way of lining people up at the gate. They could set up separate lines for each boarding group, for example, that don’t block the “entrance” to the jetway. I’ve seen that in a few places, but it’s rare. They could also provide headsets that work with phones, for example. Some actually do, but again, it’s rare. But mostly, it’s just being considerate.
I just recently flew SW to Oahu on 8/30 and returned home on 9/5. As I sat next to the window the person in the middle seat took her shoes off for the entire flight and appeared oblivious that it was disturbing to myself and then feigned asleep for the whole flight with them off. As for all of those with bulky bags – that too was an issue. Perhaps what the airlines need to do is to say anything that appears to look like a suitcase needs to be with checked baggage under the plane to avoid people dragging their whole trip on board the aircraft. We even had one family try to bring a stroller on board that had a fit that they couldn’t keep it on the plane with them. Really airlines – just limit carry on baggage to a carry on bag not a suitcase!
So glad I’m not alone. After a recent Southwest flight I sat across the aisle from two boys playing games on their cell phones. The kind of shooting games with many loud shots and explosions etc. I was at first relieved when the flight attendant almost immediately asked them to turn the volume down or use headphones. Of course they ignored her as did the mother. The attendant made no less than three more requests to no avail. Then I became frustrated that apparently there is no recourse from ignoring the attendant. I wish there was something more that could be done. FYI, another peeve is when people crowd the luggage carousel leaving no room for others to maneuver to their bags. Why not just stand back a couple steps?
Ah – the days when you used to get “dressed up” to get on a plane! These behaviors simply reflect what society has become these days – me, me, me and then me!
Get used to it (at least in the U.S.A.) We have become a society of entitled “all about me” individuals. It has now impacted the sky. There is a rule or at a minimum accepted courtesy involved in each example provided. If you are reading the listed examples and don’t see an issue, well the issue is probably You. Societal rules are created for a reason. If you feel your opinion isn’t winning, than you have to convince society that they too want it your way. Remember airlines are not Burger King! If they feel they want your crap silenced no matter what their reasoning is, your option is to go elsewhere. If people spent more time trying to fit in and get along, we would all function better and get along better.
#2B and #3, are controllable in the Pre-Board Area, Announcements as to Boarding Priorities 30 minutes prior, as well as # and Size of Bags, handled best at the Counter, Passenger’s enter the Queu when their Group is called. Over-sized bags those larger then 22x14x8 and more then one Personal item (Briefcase, Purse, Laptop Bag), anything (Brown Bag) in one container that will not fit under the Seat in front of One (see their Space). Once aboard, Flight Attendants Announce the parameters for #1 and #2A, if Seatbacks didn’t work w/o Adaptors, that would solve the problem, as to Phone, suggesting courteous behavior using your Headphones, or those Provided, or simply “Phones should remain in the off position during Flight”. Then pets!
My pet peeve is after landing to pick up luggage at the carousel. If everyone would stand 3 feet from the carousel, everyone could see their bag and move forward and safely remove it. Having to ask people to move, who have been crowding the rail and then not hit anyone when you have to awkwardly twist your bag off as to not hurt anyone, is a pain.
There used to be a yellow line around our local airport luggage carousels that helped remind people to stand back.
Don’t forget people bringing their child right up to the carousel so they can touch the bags as they go by.
It’s like people check their brain along with their bags.
Some observations:
1. Rich peoples’ problems.
2. Taking shoes off isn’t gross; leaving them on is. Do you wear your shoes to bed? Do you store your shoes on your table? No? Didn’t think so. I’d prefer people removed their shoes (a little shoe bag for everyone would be a nice gesture from the airlines) on entering the plane, like most civilized societies do when entering their homes.
3. I wont close my window shade just so that you can watch some movie on your phone. You can watch that stuff any time you want later; I’m only going to be on a plane for a few hours and the view is incredible.
Mahalo for your kokua.
My wife’s pet peeve is all the people jamming themselves at the front of the line making you have to weave your way through a very tight mess. On the newer Max aircraft there just isn’t much of a recline in the seats. My pet peeve is men falling asleep with their legs/feet out in the aisle. That can get pretty nasty around the restrooms. And of course, that problem is much more noticeable on the narrow body aircraft. I agree with you about the headphone issue. A lot of this behavior is magnified by the narrow body aircraft. I can’t imagine what the Max 10 will be like with so many more people on board. Glamorous it ain’t. Narrow bodied aircraft will be common with flights off the west coast.
Many years ago the storage bin above Your seat was yours. I don’t know when this stopped being the case but it would sure stop a lot of frustration if this was true today. Every seat has a overhead bin so why is it people don’t use them instead of using someone else’s space. As far as alcohol use I think a two drink limit is reasonable…most people drink responsibly but it only takes one to disrupt an entire flight because of too many drinks.
I fly a lot for business, and I see all of those things, and worse. People just don’t care about anyone but themselves these days, take a look at the comments below from Eldo R. as an example with his extensive use if “I” and his dismissal of “you”. But the airlines don’t really help the situation either. For example, the boarding issue. The other airline’s could adopt the Southwest way of lining people up at the gate. They could set up separate lines for each boarding group, for example, that don’t block the “entrance” to the jetway. I’ve seen that in a few places, but it’s rare. They could also provide headsets that work with phones, for example. Some actually do, but again, it’s rare. But mostly, it’s just being considerate.
I just recently flew SW to Oahu on 8/30 and returned home on 9/5. As I sat next to the window the person in the middle seat took her shoes off for the entire flight and appeared oblivious that it was disturbing to myself and then feigned asleep for the whole flight with them off. As for all of those with bulky bags – that too was an issue. Perhaps what the airlines need to do is to say anything that appears to look like a suitcase needs to be with checked baggage under the plane to avoid people dragging their whole trip on board the aircraft. We even had one family try to bring a stroller on board that had a fit that they couldn’t keep it on the plane with them. Really airlines – just limit carry on baggage to a carry on bag not a suitcase!
So glad I’m not alone. After a recent Southwest flight I sat across the aisle from two boys playing games on their cell phones. The kind of shooting games with many loud shots and explosions etc. I was at first relieved when the flight attendant almost immediately asked them to turn the volume down or use headphones. Of course they ignored her as did the mother. The attendant made no less than three more requests to no avail. Then I became frustrated that apparently there is no recourse from ignoring the attendant. I wish there was something more that could be done. FYI, another peeve is when people crowd the luggage carousel leaving no room for others to maneuver to their bags. Why not just stand back a couple steps?
Ah – the days when you used to get “dressed up” to get on a plane! These behaviors simply reflect what society has become these days – me, me, me and then me!
Get used to it (at least in the U.S.A.) We have become a society of entitled “all about me” individuals. It has now impacted the sky. There is a rule or at a minimum accepted courtesy involved in each example provided. If you are reading the listed examples and don’t see an issue, well the issue is probably You. Societal rules are created for a reason. If you feel your opinion isn’t winning, than you have to convince society that they too want it your way. Remember airlines are not Burger King! If they feel they want your crap silenced no matter what their reasoning is, your option is to go elsewhere. If people spent more time trying to fit in and get along, we would all function better and get along better.
#2B and #3, are controllable in the Pre-Board Area, Announcements as to Boarding Priorities 30 minutes prior, as well as # and Size of Bags, handled best at the Counter, Passenger’s enter the Queu when their Group is called. Over-sized bags those larger then 22x14x8 and more then one Personal item (Briefcase, Purse, Laptop Bag), anything (Brown Bag) in one container that will not fit under the Seat in front of One (see their Space). Once aboard, Flight Attendants Announce the parameters for #1 and #2A, if Seatbacks didn’t work w/o Adaptors, that would solve the problem, as to Phone, suggesting courteous behavior using your Headphones, or those Provided, or simply “Phones should remain in the off position during Flight”. Then pets!
My pet peeve is after landing to pick up luggage at the carousel. If everyone would stand 3 feet from the carousel, everyone could see their bag and move forward and safely remove it. Having to ask people to move, who have been crowding the rail and then not hit anyone when you have to awkwardly twist your bag off as to not hurt anyone, is a pain.
There used to be a yellow line around our local airport luggage carousels that helped remind people to stand back.
Don’t forget people bringing their child right up to the carousel so they can touch the bags as they go by.
It’s like people check their brain along with their bags.
Some observations:
1. Rich peoples’ problems.
2. Taking shoes off isn’t gross; leaving them on is. Do you wear your shoes to bed? Do you store your shoes on your table? No? Didn’t think so. I’d prefer people removed their shoes (a little shoe bag for everyone would be a nice gesture from the airlines) on entering the plane, like most civilized societies do when entering their homes.
3. I wont close my window shade just so that you can watch some movie on your phone. You can watch that stuff any time you want later; I’m only going to be on a plane for a few hours and the view is incredible.
Mahalo for your kokua.
My wife’s pet peeve is all the people jamming themselves at the front of the line making you have to weave your way through a very tight mess. On the newer Max aircraft there just isn’t much of a recline in the seats. My pet peeve is men falling asleep with their legs/feet out in the aisle. That can get pretty nasty around the restrooms. And of course, that problem is much more noticeable on the narrow body aircraft. I agree with you about the headphone issue. A lot of this behavior is magnified by the narrow body aircraft. I can’t imagine what the Max 10 will be like with so many more people on board. Glamorous it ain’t. Narrow bodied aircraft will be common with flights off the west coast.