2,829 thoughts on “Hotels Require Hawaii Vaccination Passports + New Maui COVID Rules Detailed”
marc a.
“Your papers, please!!”. If Hawaii does this unconstitutional, illegal violation of my individual rights, they can kiss my tourism dollars goodbye. And I go to Hawaii often. And there are millions like me who still value privacy and freedom. Cancun, and the Carribean are looking better all the time ..
JohnW
Marc…and we value respect and the health and well being of all…. don’t you just love it when a win win scenario works out for everyone?
Angie T
I agree. I am planning to go next summer with the family to celebrate graduations, but no way will I go if vaccination is required.
JohnW
Like I said, Angie, Hawaii is not for you…and that’s OK. The old different strokes for different folks. Hawaii is a wonderful place, but for a lot of reasons, not real tolerant of behavior that smacks of “I care more about me then the people that live there”. The whole reason for requiring a vaccine is because of the simple fact that culturally we are an island, it tends to breed what has been called the Aloha spirit. Take care of each other. We also don’t have the hospital space that others enjoy so it’s not as easy to ignore the Covid deaths places like Florida can when they prioritize the economy over lives lost. If we had the per capita cases Florida did we would be a disaster area.
Like I said, the “I care about me over the people that live there” attitude has it’s roots way before the Pandemic hit, but the vaccine requirement is just one more example of how Hawaii will be dealing with people trying to get what they can out of the state with little regard for the consequences.
RegY
JohnW, I agree with you; not only is getting vaccinated important for your own health, it’s showing that you care about other people. God forbid that Angie has a family member get Covid to see the devastating effects that happen and the cost of the medical care or the long term effects. Just listen to the “long haul Covid survivors”.
Everyone needs to be responsible for their actions. For Hawaiians; which I understand, it’s about “ohana”….family and respect. That’s why the younger people call older people “uncle” and “auntie”, even if they are not related.
That’s the lessons that the mainland has forgotten and that’s unfortunate.
Angie T
I believe in the preciousness of others, that’s not the case. I cannot get the vaccine due to medical reasons. I have been to Hawaii twice when I was younger, and love it. I wanted to go again with my family.
BARBARA M
ANGIE T… I know it’s personal but if you had even so much as implied that earlier, your comments would not have been interpreted the way they were!
BARBARA M
JOHNW… AMEN!
J.T.
John W- Have you been to Florida? I have 3 times during the pandemic. There were more deaths, per capita in New York, Michigan and California than Florida. All states with strict lockdowns. Florida had far less suicides and there schools were open. Perhaps you didn’t know Florida has a high elderly population and to that population can be deadly. We are no longer in a state of emergency here in Hawaii. In fact on Kauai, we never had more than 2 people in the hospital due to covid. So please stop telling people what to do. We live in the USA and people are free to make choices. Stop your fear mongering and start examining the current data. By the way, we will never get to 70% vaccination rate!
BARBARA M
ANGIE… Your ignorance continues – you are obviously not aware that vaccinations are not required – testing is required if you are not vaccinated. Period. End of sentence! To echo JOHNW, it would appear that you wouldn’t get along very well in Hawaii anyway – ALOHA SPIRIT and all that jazz!
Debra B.
Hi. Do you have to be vaccinated to come to Hawaii for a visit from another state? If you want to go from Maui to Honolulu do you need to be vaccinated? Thankyou.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Debra.
You need to follow the state’s Safe Travels testing rules to visit from another state at this time. There is no requirement for testing or vaccination flying between islands.
Aloha.
Bridget K.
We plan on going to Hawaii July 13-18, 2021 to Oahu. Do you think by that time we won’t need to take the NAAT test before boarding Hawaiian airlines?
Andrea
Dear Bridget, I hope that you had a wonderful trip to Hawaii!! ❤🐢🐠🌺🍍🥥🌏🏖🛩🌈🌞 I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Hawaii next year!! ♡♡
Andrea
Dear Bridget, how was your trip? Hope you had a wonderful & fun time! 😊
Ann H.
Recently divorced and my ex-husband wants to take our two teenage sons to Hawaii. Neither of our sons is vaccinated, or have been tested. The requested vacation time to go to Hawaii is 6/25-7/5/21. Will my sons be allowed to go to Hawaii? I am not in favor of this vacation for many reasons, so are my sons, and am wondering if they are even able to travel to the Hawaiian islands at this time? They are 14 and 17 years old. Can you help answer this question for me?
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Ann.
Yes, they can visit Hawaii. They will need to comply with the state’s Safe Travels testing protocol. It needs to be followed exactly. Let us know if you have any questions. https://hawaiicovid19.com/travel/
Aloha.
BARBARA M
ANN H… As a business entity, the appropriate thing for BOH to do is refer you to the appropriate website. However, I’m a private citizen so I can offer this. At this time, they will have to be tested COvid negative within 72 hours of their flight departing for Hawaii. Those results will have to be printed out, saved as a pdf and uploaded to Hawaii Safe Travels. The test will have to be a PRC or Rapid Results Test done by a Hawaii Trusted Partner, one of which is sometimes not easy to find. (In our entire state, there is not a single Trusted Partner that does the Rapid Results test and the 72 hour test results can give anyone an anxiety attack!) Make sure their father understands all that before he considers taking them on the trip. The Rapid Results tests do cost $$$.
BARBARA M
ANN H… Just a thought. Apparently you are the custodial parent and I wonder if you would have to give permission for a minor child (children) to be tested? Just a thought. (Please don’t sue me!)
Angie T
I have never had a test, and don’t want to take one. I have traveled to several other states already without having to take a test. When will this not be required as o would like to bring my family June 2022?
Andrea
Dear Angie, as it stands right now for people who are unvaccanited they will need to test in order to go to Hawaii. Hope thus info helps. God bless you, Psalms 91:11❤
Rochelle B
When will passengers be able to utilize their vaccination record instead of testing to travel from mainland ?to Hawaii
Andrea
Dear Rochelle, as of July8th I think it was cdc vaccinated cards are accepted.
Lillibeth V.
Is it mandatory to have fully vaccinated prior travelling to Hawaii from Phils.?
Edsel
I am confused regarding the CommonPass Hawaii system for the vaccination passport. I understand how to use the site to upload test results and use an approved test partner since we are coming from USA – but it states the only airlines you can use are Hawaiian Air from Phoenix to Honolulu OR United between Denver & Honolulu, Kona or Maui.
So to arrive in Hawaii, negative test, logged in CommonPass – you MUST arrive on one of these airlines??
Thanks
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Edsel.
CommonPass Hawaii is in a beta mode only, so at this time it is extremely limited, as you see. That will change, but we don’t have details yet.
Aloha.
Kimberly T
Paul C;
The covid “vaccine” is not the “tried and true” approved flu vaccine. I am sure you are aware of this, so I don’t understand why you are using the vaccine to prove a point. If you really want to get technical, the high 2017/2018 flu pandemic numbers were in spite of the tried and true, approved flu vaccine, of which they run out of every flu season. So, clearly many get vaccinated.
Nancy D
Thank you so much kimberly …thank you !!!!!!!!
Kathleen R
Can you please tell me if non-vaccinated persons will be able to come to Hawaii after testing (of course) Will I need a statement from my doctor regarding the decision not to vaccinate? We have a vacation rental ready, however we are getting nervous about the July 4th turn of events.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Kathleen.
Yes the testing option will remain in effect. No letter from your doctor is needed. Just follow the rules exactly.
Aloha.
Macvickers W
BUT…Just what are the rules? If my party of 5 ALL vaccinated (including 2 teen-agers) arrive at OGG with our vaccination cards, do we need any other proof? What else do we need to have with us? Thank you in advance
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Macvickers.
I don’t think you are following the rules at all. There is no exemption for vaccination at this time. You need to follow the Safe Travels testing procedures exactly. https://hawaiicovid19.com/travel/
Aloha.
Macvickers W
I’m confused. How can you say that I have not followed the rules?
As a Californian, I have followed ALL the rules from Lockdown, limiting outings to the grocery while masked, got tested continually, and got vaccinated as soon as available.
I want to follow the rules on Maui as well when I take my family to celebrate various missed events. I just ask that I know clearly what the rules are from the most reliable source.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Macvickers.
What we are saying is that according to current rules, there are no exemptions for vaccinated travelers. You need to comply with the testing requirements set by the state found at https://hawaiicovid19.com/travel/.
Aloha.
Nanjo
Macvickers. As stated above by BOH the travel rules are very different in Hawaii than in California. Hopefully they will allow visitors vaccinated on the mainland to skip getting a COVID test before flying to Hawaii after July 4th, but this depends on vaccination rates of the people who live in Hawaii. Right now you need to plan to get ALL of you tested BEFORE travel. You must use only certain labs. Check on Hawaii Safe Travels website. Aloha.
BARBARA M
MACVICKERS W… You do need to upload your information to Safe Travels as stated in a previous post but I would suggest to upload your information to Safe Travels well before you become embroiled in your testing and your trip. Each adult will have to register separately on Safe Travels – children below age 18 can be registered as part of a parent’s registration but after anyone age 18 or older has to register under their own name. (Therefore, you may need 5 registrations.) Since you need flight numbers, accommodation addresses and phone numbers, etc., this is easier done at your leisure rather than when pressed for that information. Your entries will not expire. And do not forget – only PRC/NAAT/Rapid Results testing by a Hawaii Trusted Partner is acceptable – antibody or antigen tests are not. You are lucky – there are tons of Trusted Partner locations in California – far more than anywhere else!
Patrick G
Macvickers, you will still need to test in CA. Go to a trusted partner of Safe Travels Hawaii. Not sure where you are located, but you could go to Carbon Health or whoever is set up at your airport you are flying out of. We fly out of San Jose and they have a set up you can drive to and take the test. Takes 24-48 hours but they are fairly quick nowadays. Once you get your results, set up your trip details on Safe Travels and load your test results. I would print a copy to have with you as well. If you have any other questions would be happy to answer as I’ve been to Oahu/Maui/Kauai about 10 times in the last year.
BARBARA M
I love this site! I love Jeff and Rob! I love the information I get here! I love that many of you put thought and caring into the words that you post.
I DO NOT LOVE having to read tirade after tirade about the value (or not) of the vaccine. I DO NOT LOVE the quarrels and snide remarks between posters. I DO NOT LOVE having to open post after post after post just in case there MIGHT be some useful information and instead find yet another quarrel.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Barbara.
How’s everything going there? Thanks for your kindness and support of us. It means a lot. We hope to see you soon.
Aloha, R/J.
BARBARA M
Thanks BOH for asking – yesterday was the turning point – today (Day 13) almost no pain and what there is is very isolated to the incision and the muscles I’ve overused in attempts at walking. Ice for the first, heat for the second and I am indeed a new woman! DEFINITELY puts 07/16-08/06 on the map! Can’t wait to meet you and Muley! Question – any thoughts on fully vaccinated being the travel standard by July? Mahalo nui loa for all you do and post-covid hug to The Mule!
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Barbara.
Great news! You’re on the calendar. Hawaii has the intention to have this in effect around July 4. But can they actually do it? We don’t know. Fingers crossed.
Aloha.
Barney
Ditto! Thank you!
Andrea
Dear Barbara, yes I agree with everything you said in your May28th post!! Well said. God bless you, Psalms 91:11❤😇
Nancy D
Now being bias with Paul C on his side. You guys should be even.
Linda
How do I remove myself from a “comment feed?” Thank you
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Linda.
Thanks for asking. Each email you receive has the manage subscription link embedded. To make it easier, we just removed you from current subscriptions. You can always resubscribe if you wish.
Aloha.
Linda
Thank you. I was just overwhelmed with email responses from a comment I was interested in. Already resubscribed. Don’t want to ever miss Beat of Hawaii updates. They’re great!
Linda
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Linda.
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Thanks for that!
Aloha.
Pam L
I love the positive news you guys are giving to us mainland travelers!!! You have been my pipeline to what’s going on. 2 weeks from today we are scheduled to fly into Kauai. The news keeps getting better!! Mahalo abd bless you for being here for all of us!
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Pam.
Thanks! Have a great time on your Kauai travels.
Aloha.
Andrea
Dear Pam, I hope that you had a wonderful trip to Hawaii in June!😀 I can’t wait for my trip next year🌍✈🌈🌞🛩🏖❤🎉🎫🍍🥥
J.T.
Hello Authors of B.O.H.
I was a bit confused on your response to my comment.
Are you going to be able to post it?
Sincerely,
J.T.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi J.T.
We did post your comment and our reply. If there’s something else, please let us know.
Aloha.
J.T.
Aloha to all the people reading this and thank you for your ability to let people know whats going on. I’ve been a resident of Hawaii for 30 years and my husband born and raised here. We got our vaccine from the Kauai department of health. We also had a negative SARS-Cov-2-RT-PCR covid test, however, it wasn’t from a “Tested Partner” it was from a hospital. (There were no trusted partners in Iceland or the E.U. (There are 100 in Japan) Just to be very clear, We were ordered to a 10 day quarantine in our own home and if we break quarantine are subject to a $5,000 fine and/or 1 year in prison. How much sense does this make? The money trail is unquestionable. For those of you who are in denial, how can Kauai urge everyone to get free covid testing at the war memorial however that test is not accepted for travel? (Big sign that says so) These test are not a “Trusted Partner. So, does that mean we can’t trust the County of Kauai tests? Makes no sense whatsoever. If it’s not about money and control, what is this about? Answers please. I got my test because I wanted to continue traveling the world. We were treated with the utmost respect until we got home and were confronted by the National Guard and Police. They have been coming to our house, texting and emailing us several times a day to make sure we are in quarantine. Totally ridiculous. I would have never got that vaccine had I known. For all of the paranoid people, FYI, the County of Kauai are playing games that I don’t play.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi J.T
Thanks for your dozens of comments. We can’t speak to how the state and counties arrived at what they did in terms of testing, what kinds, and from where. Also, we are sad to learn the way that you have been treated. The rules are least clear in terms of what is and isn’t acceptable, and the unfortunate alternative of an unalterable 10-day quarantine.
Aloha.
Jeanne F
I appreciate and understand your situation. I had a problem with” Safe Travels” in October and had to quarrantine,despite a negative covid test. It was an incredibly intimidating experience,having the national guard check up on me ,in fatigues,driving a colossal hummer through my small neighborhood.i offered to retake the covid test at War Memorial but was denied. I am still upset about the way I was treated,I was polite but the national guard people were intimidating,macho and arrogant. It didn’t have to be that way.
terry d
The reason for these mandates was to stop a surge that would overhelm hospital capacity which has never happened in over a yr, and then that was bc a pol didn’t use the capacity offered by the federal govt. Also this started the do what ever the pols says and media will cancel your account for the sin of posting real peer reviewed research papers proving the opposite position. So I think it’s time we demand pol / health depts are required to provide real peer reviewed scieNce based facts for the loss of liberty. It would be nice if courts would do their jobs by demanding that the govt prove in court that what they’re asking is valid before any mandate is put into effect. So really we need the court not the pols / admin state to issue any mandate esp those that deny liberty. That said where’s the proof that masks do anything to stop the spread? If Ige can’t offer it up then we need the mandate removed immediately. From the real sci papers I’ve seen there is not enough stats evidence to support such a claim. We could have a great vaccine db run by the federal govt to register those vaccinated fo pennies on the dollar for what we have wasted on masks, privacy invading apps. We really need to shutdown the big tech fast buck artists, and open the economy now.
J.T.
Terry D. Totally agree with you. There is no “Emergency” and the fact that we are still under an Emergency proclamation is absolutely ludicrous. Fear=Control. 🙁
CF
I agree with Terry and JT. The saddest and most unacceptable thing is loss of liberties, not the relatively low amounts of sickness snd deaths in all states.
America and most of all hawaii in this case have not only gone off the rails but have essentially been committing treason against the usa and its citizens by emergency proclamations and mandates that are ongoing and not a true emergency to the nation. Each day is a violation of the most precious amendments in the bill of rights, which are guaranteed rights unless martial law is instated. Well there has been no martial law declared. So how is these mandates even possible? Im not sure 🤔
Paul C
CF 600,000 deaths due to Covid19 is NOT I repeat not an emergency to you?
Fear about oh say Illegal immigrants. Yeah that was ok right?
Fear about socialism. That was ok too right? As long as it falls in your political way of thinking and whom you support your totally ok with fear mongering.
A governor concerned about their citizens is NOT I repeat not fear mongering. Isnt there a florida site you could be whining on instead of coming here and trying to ruin it for all of us who are actually GOING to Hawaii?
J.T.
Paul C.
FYI, I’m a resident of Kauai and have been for over 30 years. There is no “Emergency” here. You would know that if you lived here. Do you have any idea how many suicides there have been due to the absurd restrictions that do NOT follow the “Science”? The suicide rate is 7 x more than the covid fatalities. We personally know police officers that reported 5 suicides in 1 week! Of course, that’s never reported on the daily Covid Facebook posting by our lame mayor? I continue to see people walking alone in the hot sun with their masks on. If they haven’t been psychologically affected by the fear mongering, then what is it?
JohnW
That pretty much says it all CF…you think Mask mandates and other precautions
that were taken are worse then the untold suffering by millions from Covid and all the lives that have been devastated by it….
You can certainly recover from a bad year for business or a missed vacation, not so much from death.
CF
John W, its not about what i want, its that hawaii in particular feels that you can change laws and what basically amounts to god given rights as a us citizen? How about a big NO to that 😀 Anyone that took history and civics should realize that the constitution and bill of rights is precious. In fact it states in that document to actually do what was done where congress was stormed in a citizen uprising. Why? They want those things, little things like not having to wear a turban in a public place.
Hawaiians complain that they were stolen by the usa. Well usa and hawaii itself are based on that foundation. What about respect for that? Its a two way street
JohnW
Yet you come across as someone who has no problem with the recent assault on Democracy our Country has experienced??
I’m old fashioned, I think things like democracy, honesty and integrity are important. I have no problem if faced with a national emergency we pull together and do what is most beneficial for all.
Simple fact is Hawaii’s Covid response, while not perfect, saved a lot of lives.
Kimberly T
CF;
You are absolutely correct. The governors who locked down their states have broken the law. It’s unfortunate so many people do not know their local or federal laws. Its for this reason they retort, “so 600,000 deaths isn’t a good reason?” The fact is, thats about how many people died fighting the civil war. But, I guess for some, those deaths don’t matter. Those men and women ‘gave’ their lives for the freedoms that were so quickly and without logical thought or reasoning given up this past year of which, maybe/probably will never be fully given back. That scares me far more than dying from a virus. I can easily control whether I get sick or not just by taking care of myself. Its far more difficult to get back freedoms lost. Its a proven fact.
Your logic and thinking are on the correct path.
James B
OMG. Have you literally gone down the rabbit hole? Your ignorance of the powers inherent in the fifty states belies your knowledge of the content of the 10th Amendment and various state laws that place public emergencies, disaster declarations and even martial law in the hands of the state legislatures and Governors.
As for your false equivalency of Civil War deaths, I am assuming that you are not an insurrectionist. Otherwise you would have realized that the 7, growing to 11 states and Indian territories that joined the previous insurrectionists accounted for ~255,000 of the ~600,000 deaths total in the war. If “giving one’s life for their freedoms” equates to insurrectionist rebels who fought to keep their slave-based “freedoms” is equivalent to folks like you who spread false equivalencies and outright falsehoods.
Sorry Kimberly, but your facts, logic, understanding of history and thought processes are sorely lacking.
Do I write this in hopes of influencing your behavior. Nope. But I cannot let your twisted view of the world go unaddressed.
CF
Thanks Kimberly. That is what was taught to me in class yes and what many in mainland usa generally felt for decades sbout the usa govt and individual rights. I havnt heard of what was stated by James B. James b, what you said about 10th amendment may, but probably does NOT override those basic bill of rights protections. It states only martial law can override. And thats at the point where there is citywide riots or immediate imminent danger to a majority of the population, not 1 percent or less from a virus. Staying home or going out in whatever is a right and a choice in usa. Hawaii seems to be more of the opposite.
Kimberly T
James B;
Please show me the verbiage in the 10th Amendment that says the government can issue a state if emergency indefinitely.
What an odd thing to ask; if I am an insurrectionist. Where in anything I said did I claim I am an insurrectionist? So do you automatically assume anyone who speaks of the civil war is claiming to be an insurrectionist? And which civil war are you talking about? I am referencing he civil war between the north and south where approx 620,000 soldiers died; 360,000 from the north and 258,000 from the south. The most deaths in any war to date. Did Indians fight in that war? Probably. However, I have no clue how it’s relevant to my point.
Paul C
yall are the only ones who seem to be living in fear. The rest of us are getting vaccinated doing our part to get things back to normal. Your excuse is what exactly?
Nancy D
Living in fear…. if you were not living in fear you would not have fear of the unvaccinated. You are vaccinated so don’t worry about mask and unvaccinated people. LIVE YOUR LIFE SIR. Don’t let that fresh air scare you.
Kimberly T
I hear you Nancy D. People have no idea that we had a flu pandemic in 2017/2018…. oh, and in 2009, because they were never told.
From the CDC: US ONLY numbers
“CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 45 million illnesses, 21 million medical visits, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. This burden was higher than any season since the 2009 pandemic and serves as a reminder of how severe seasonal influenza can be.”
Paul C
You forgot the next line Specifically, CDC estimates that influenza vaccination during the 2017–2018 influenza season prevented 6.2 million illnesses, 3.2 million medical visits, 91,000 hospitalizations and 5,700 deaths associated with influenza. This report underscores the benefits of the current vaccination program, but also highlights areas where improvements in vaccine uptake and vaccine effectiveness could deliver even greater benefits to the public’s health.
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Yes 61,000 is too many but that is a full 10% of what this pandemic has killed. So yes influenza is bad but no where near as bad as covid19.
Nancy D
Thank you !!!
Paul C
Where in any of my comments did I say I fear the unvaccinated? I didnt. I am not worried at all. I am fully vaccinated. Someone else wants to roll the dice and not be and possibly get covid thats on them not me. Stop putting words in my mouth that I never said.
PS interesting who you work for advocating the fake vaccine cards. Wonder if they know?
Nancy D
No fear Paul No Fear. Of course my work knows everything about me. It’s a huge medical center hospital. We even have one in Hawaii.
Paul C
I take it you dont think that 600,000 deaths basically in a years frame time is just no big deal right? Hawaii gets 10-20 million visitors annually and had they stayed open and allowed the virus to spread across Hawaii it would have absolutely devastated the islands.
Vaccines are allowing them to open back up and numbers are now dropping. IT was and is an emergency as long as one citizen is vulnerable to getting covid19.
“Also this started the do what ever the pols says and media will cancel your account for the sin of posting real peer reviewed research papers proving the opposite position” Lol only when you spread lies and misinformation that is politically motivated. Your freedoms are just fine. Stop whining. Your privilege is showing.
“So I think it’s time we demand pol / health depts are required to provide real peer reviewed scieNce based facts for the loss of liberty.” What does this even mean? You would come off much more credible if you used proper spelling. You have lost NO liberty. None.
Not a history major I see “It would be nice if courts would do their jobs by demanding that the govt prove in court that what they’re asking is valid before any mandate is put into effect. So really we need the court not the pols / admin state to issue any mandate esp those that deny liberty” the courts right up to the US Supreme court time after time have ruled that governors have every right to look out for the health of their citizens. SO nice try but history says your wrong.
“That said where’s the proof that masks do anything to stop the spread?” Do tell me please why do doctors and nurses wear masks if they dont work? Huh? you cant nor will you answer that.
Jim R.
For the Record:
Just under 10.4 million visitors is the record for Hawaii visitors, definitely not as you’ve claimed to have “10-20 million visitors annually”, which implies on a regular basis. Let’s make that fact perfectly clear.
It’s well known that 2020 had only around 2.7 million visitors, and the last time it was below 3 million was in 1975. Although 2021 will make a gain over 2020, it won’t even be close to 10 million, especially with what’s happening now. The fact is Hawaii had never broken 10 million visitors until 2019. They didn’t break 8 million until 2012, and the previous high before that was in 2006.
Sheryl B
I have been reading the comments on this and several other recent posts and it amazes me how many people are so paranoid about massive numbers of tourists with bogus vaccination cards. I am not naive and I know that there will be someone out there stupid enough to try it, but believe it or not, the overwhelming majority of people traveling to Hawaii are hard working, honest people who just want to have a relaxing vacation with family or friends, and they have zero interest in risking not only the money they spent on the trip, but their freedom, their reputation and their livelihoods by presenting fake vaccine records, which is a felony. This is just yet another example of how this entire Covid fiasco has programmed people to allow fear to rule their thoughts and their lives. No reasonable person thinks that thousands of people are going to be entering the state every day with fake cards. At some point, common sense and a trust that the overwhelming majority of people are honest and good must overrule the fear.
Lee S
Amen, Sheryl. Thank you.
Gerhard
No one knows what the final outcome will be. But, you can be sure, the CDC vaccination cards will not be accepted as proof of vaccination. There will be some other tool in place to make sure your info is correct. Probably some kind of App with a QR code connected to the health department of your state of residence.
Paul C
interesting how the vaccine card I still have from when I was a child was perfectly acceptable and now it isnt? There has to be a basic honesty and the honor system should be good enough. But according to Nancy everyone traveling has faked documents so you know
Joerg H.
Sheryl B,
Exactly! It’s all just a small but vocal minority of people who are fear-mongering. The best part is that the answer to the issues they raise about fake cards is having vaccine passports, which they ALSO don’t like. So in the end, it’s all just a lot of fear-mongering so that they can get what they really want, which is to pretend that there’s nothing going on and so that they don’t have to do anything to help protect Hawaii during a pandemic.
Paul C
I am always amazed at the very same people who claim when it comes to actually following rules and guidelines laid out they don’t ever want to have to follow any rules. They think freedom means never ever having to do anything they don’t want to do.
Andrea
Aloha Sheryl, very well said!! I am one of those hard working people who can’t wait to get to Hawaii!! I’ve been dreaming all my life of my trip to Oahu & now I’m making my dream come true for next year♡♡
Paulc
Thank you. Thank you thank you
JohnW
Well said Sheryl….simple fact is most people are not like Nancy…most people are in fact getting vaccinated…most people will be just fine.
Nothing will ever be 100 percent, the huge death toll and suffering is mostly behind us and what’s left is a lot of people doing the right thing and some going down the narcissism or conspiracy theory rabbit hole….we have to look forward like you obviously are.
Nancy D
Well since all you are getting vaccinated you should be protected so don’t worry about us that decide not to. You are protected that’s why you have chosen to get vaccinated.
JohnW
It’s not as simple as that Nancy, there are plenty of people that have medical issues that prevent them from getting vaccinated, protecting them is important too. Getting vaccinated is also about doing what’s best for society as whole as well as enhanced personal safety. I think you said you work in a hospital?
Being unvaccinated means you have a better chance of carrying the virus into a place that has patients that are more vulnerable and could die from Covid.
Getting vaccinated is also doing your part to get the economy going quicker.
NancyD
Yes I do work at a very large trauma center I wear my mask to work never take it off and I do protect my coworkers and patients. The flu kills people with low immune also. It’s contagious also and I have seen people on ventilators with the flu. I am responsible around where I am to be
JohnW
Good to know you are not an anti masker! 🙂
Paul C
and most people are honest, want to have a nice vacation and even the most ardent anti whatever if they really want to go they will do what is needed to get to Hawaii and not complain too much about it. Folks its not all about you. Its all about all of us as a whole.
Nancy D
OH WELL … Well think that way.
Barbara M
Paul C… thanks remainingvlevel
Headed and expressing yourself so well.
Nancy D.., please go away!
Paul C
Thank you Barbara! Much appreciated. I run several forums that have large numbers of posters. I get complained to all the time about the things I allow vs not. I am guessing BOH cuts quite a bit of crazy out before we see it! 🙂 Mahalo!
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Paul (and Barbara).
We say, “you should have seen the ones that got away.” About 60 comments have been deleted in the past 30 days (which isn’t bad considering the overall number). It’s a tough call. We try our best.
Aloha.
Ed. C
Aloha, BOH. I dare say the overwhelming majority of your subscribers will be so glad when this whole thing is behind us so we can get back to enjoying your posts about Hawaii instead of dreading opening another email filled with comments from about half of a dozen of commenters who do nothing to add to the conversation about the actual post. I don’t care if they are from Portland or Florida.
Mahalo.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Ed.
LOL. We’re with you on that and sure never expected this. Thanks for hanging in there. BTW, we appreciate your 80 comments to date!
Aloha.
Paulc
I do not envy you having to moderate all of this. Thank you though for all your work. I’d love to buy you guys a beer in Honolulu when I’m there! 6-4-14
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Paul.
Thanks. We’re based on Kauai, so if you head this way, please let us know. We appreciate your almost 500 comments to date!
Aloha.
Nancy D
Why should I go away when I am not threatening. Just reality facts I am stating.
So you can not accept that ?
Barbara M
Paul C… thanks for remaining level
headed and expressing yourself so well.
Nancy D.., please go away!
Roy H
Aloha Guys
Another part of the puzzle is falling into place, thank you.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Roy.
Thanks. We appreciate your frequent comments!
Aloha.
Paul C
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Questions regarding this PSA should be directed to your local FBI Field Office.
If You Make or Buy a Fake COVID-19 Vaccination Record Card, You Endanger Yourself and Those Around You, and You Are Breaking the Law
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Vaccination record cards are intended to provide recipients of the COVID-19 vaccine with information about the type of vaccine they received, and when they may be able to receive a second dose of the vaccine. If you did not receive the vaccine, do not buy fake vaccine cards, do not make your own vaccine cards, and do not fill-in blank vaccination record cards with false information. By misrepresenting yourself as vaccinated when entering schools, mass transit, workplaces, gyms, or places of worship, you put yourself and others around you at risk of contracting COVID-19. Additionally, the unauthorized use of an official government agency’s seal (such as HHS or the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)) is a crime, and may be punishable under Title 18 United States Code, Section 1017, and other applicable laws.
Because individuals may use fake vaccine cards to misrepresent themselves as vaccinated, we strongly encourage businesses, schools, places of worship, and government agencies to follow CDC guidance and continue to maintain social distancing and use personal protective equipment. If you did receive the vaccine, we recommend you do not post photos of your vaccine card to social media websites—your personal information could be stolen to commit fraud. For more inform
Nancy D
You trying to scare people? It won’t work.
Take a look all over the internet fake cards everywhere and there is no way they can control all them fake cards going on out there.
Of course it’s against the law. So are fake ID’s Fake drivers license. Fake money. All them gang bangers with guns. The FBI should be concentrated on them guys killing people with guns etc etc.
it’s wrong fake cards of course. But if you are on a plane or wherever and you have that fear of someone having a fake card wear your mask and / or stay home. You can protect yourself if you are paranoid.
Paul C
Not at all Nancy. By the way I spent a few hours researching this very issue and while yes there are some places you can find a card.
Anyone using them for any travel face serious consequences amd I’m sure will be easily caught. So my point is while it may get you into an event it will not get you into Hawaii
Nancy D
Come on PAUL C I was just in Kona and the guy was standing at the gate asking people to show there vaccination card and he just let them through to baggage claim right off the plane as passengers showed the card walking by him. I seen it with my own eyes. Shish
David B
Well, Nancy, who you gonna believe? Paul C, or your eyes?
Nancy D
My Eyes I was there … going again to.
Paul C must not have faith in his vaccine. Stay home you will be safe there Paul C
Paulc
Lmao sure you were just in Kona using your faked illegal vaccine card and your faked negative test.
Sheesh is right.
CF
And Paul C is at it again, lol
Paul c
and CF is still here spewing about Florida. Reminder this is Beat of Hawaii not Beat of Florida. GO elsewhere and advertise for your dear little island oh wait Florida is not an island.
Paul C
I will take a covid19 test
I will show my vaccine card
I will display a vaccine wrist band and button showing I am vaccinated.
I will not complain about having to wear a mask or follow the rules in Hawaii
I respect the Hawaiian people, its culture and will do everything in my power to do what is needed to get there and have a fantastic time and not complain about it.
I grow very weary of the conspiracy theorists, the fraudsters that claim they can easily forge a vaccine card.
That being said I will do what I need to do without complaining to get to Hawaii and spend tons of money on the local economy.
I for one am willing to follow what ever rules are set out and not complain about them.
Pam G.
Mahalo for voicing this. I get so tired of complaints and sarcasms being posted. Do what you must do to protect yourself and others and enjoy the Aloha in Hawaii!
Paulc
Thank you me too!
Andrea
Pam, well said. I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year & I’m getting very excited & can’t wait ♡♡ A very long time coming for me & I’m going to enjoy every second of my time in Beautiful Paradise because this most likely will be my only opportunity to come to Hawaii!!
Nancy D
Have faith in your vaccine then.
BARBARA M
PAUL C… It’s always so wonderful to read a voice of reason. Mahalo nui loa!
Tina
I’m a little confused. We still need a negative test even thou we had the vaccine? Thank you for your response.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Tina.
Yes, until further notice you do need to follow Hawaii’s testing procedures.
Aloha.
Mike E
Have there been any comments regarding testing changes for children under 12 traveling with vaccinated parents?
Kimberly T
Do you think we all still be talking about this 1 year from now? Just curious what others thoughts are.
JohnW
Yes Kimberly I think we will be talking about this time for years to come…..
Soon though I also think we will be entering a period of recovery and healing.
The vast majority of Americans are really sick of the name calling, the conspiracy theories, the far right, the far left, etc, etc, You don’t read about them in the news, but they are the norm, not the quackpots.
I’m an optimist, I think a renaissance of people just being being happy to connect in a positive way is on the horizon.
Simple fact is the vaccine is saving lives everyday and this metric is growing exponentially.
Cheers and Aloha
John S
Thank you so much for the updated info. We are planning on spending Thanksgiving near Waikoloa and we still like to read all of your updates regarding the vaccine passports. Once again, thanks so much. It is greatly appreciated. Mahalo.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi John.
Thanks for your first-time comment. We hope you have a great time on the Big Island and look forward to hearing from you again.
Aloha.
Andrea
Aloha John, Have a wonderful trip when you do go!! I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year & I’m getting very excited & can’t wait!!!♡♡♡
Andy M
I am a resident of Hawaii and I chose not to get the shot. Just follow the money (as a previous poster said). So there is this “pandemic” but all of a sudden we have no “flu”, its all Covid? Yeah, right. When 40% of the CDC employees won’t get vaccinated, that has to tell you something.As for comments that people are using fake vaccine cards to travel – you betcha. Every day people are arriving, I’ve run into multiple people who are traveling on fake cards. Its so simple, heavy card stock and all those people on Facebook stupidly showing their cards to show they got their shots…look at the people who work at the airport. Have you traveled anytime since 9/11? the TSA agents are buffoons. You show your “vax record” on your phone? really? Each state as it’s own program –geez, we can’t even get the “RealID” program off the ground to protect US Citizens and you think they have a coordinated system to verify everyone? The DMV doesn’t even have a coordinated system to check whether or not a vehicle has a washed title coming into another state. The government must think we are all sheep.
James B
Congrats Andy! Got it all figured out and in so little time. Have fun traveling in your alternate universe. As for 60% and rising Hawaii residents who believe in Ohana, you are thankfully in the minority. I hear that Parler is an excellent travel location for those who share your wavelength
Richard C
JAMES my man Andy is spot on….
In California it’s scam fest!
Our EDD sent thousands of unemployment debit cards to a single mailbox with no red flags. The only way the guy got busted was for wreaking his Lambo that they discovered was payed for with unemployment debit cards.
Over the past several years at the Ag. inspection stations at OGG half the time the guys are to busy BSing or sleeping to watch the monitor.
I’m 55 have white hair TSA waves me through airport security like a I’m senior. “That’s ok sir you don’t have to take your shoes off” I roll with it.
Also in California they just lowered the standard for you to get a Real ID drivers license. Again Andy was right.
JohnW
Andy, you have been duped about the CDC employees…it’s simply not true.
So much of our Country has been duped in the same way about so much, Chemtrails, Plandemic etc etc. As PT Barnum said “There’s a sucker born every minute”
It’s nothing new, but the internet sure has accelerated the problem……
Thanks for clearing this up for the relatively sane individuals who don’t need to wear tin foil hats. Actually, my fave Barnum-attributed quote is:
“No one ever died poor underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
As 2016 proved his observation, perhaps we can move on…after the investigation.
Nancy D
Yup I got mine fake vaccine card with a friends lot number and vaccine maker. I will prove to Hawaii they can not control me this way.
BARBARA M
NANCY D… PLEASE GO AWAY! If not, please identify yourself more clearly so we can now report you to the proper authorities. It boggles the mind that someone who has been so frequent and vocal about the dangers of fake vaccine cards has actually now admitted publicly they participated in that fraud! Get a grip!
Nancy D
Hey Barbara if I am doing something bad. Beat of Hawaii would do the proper thing.
Beat of Hawaii would bar me from commenting. Freedom of speech. I am no threat to anyone
BARBARA M
NANCY D… I would suspect they keep you on for entertainment sake.
Nancy D
That could be a good possibility Barbara 🤦♀️
Bryon B.
Yeah, you’ll show them all Nancy. I’m not sure your using your real name. If you are. You should be concerned about one of the 1000’s of people on here who might work for the airlines, or law enforcement, or TSA. They might just make the effort to keep an eye out for you coming through their airport. Best wishes.
Nancy D
Hey Bryon … I am crazy but not stupid 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉Thanks for being down to earth …cool …
BARBARA M
NANCY D… You really don’t recognize sarcasm do you??!?!?!?
Anonymouse
All of a sudden there is no flu. You really dont follow science much do you? Have any idea how flus are spread?
Show me any evidence that 40% of CDC employees wont get the vaccine lmao. What inside sources do you have?
You have run into Multiple people who are sharing with anti science Andy fake vaccine cards and they are using them to travel. And you are totally ok with that? You do realize that is FRAUD punishable up to a felony? Its so simple you say. Why in the world would someone who had just committed fraud admit to you IN Hawaii they were traveling on fake documents?
Yes I have traveled extensively since 911. Oh ok now your attacking TSA agents and calling them names. Do try and get more positive. Look on the good side of things for once
Yury
Are Canadian vaccination cards going to be accepted in Hawaii?
Tom W
Thanks for the information.
Look forward everyday for the updates.
Just wondering if you have the vaccine from Canada will that count, or just from the mainland?
Thanks again
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Tom.
We sure hope that Canada isn’t going to have to wait much longer for the same treatment.
Aloha.
Gerhard
Looks like at this time the vaccinations from Canada will not be accepted. Our Government discourages any travel and will not share any vaccine data until the Prime Minister lets us travel again. Bery frustrating, so we Canadians have no choice but use the testing route or get vaccinated in the US before traveling to Hawaii, if that vaccination passport actually gets off the ground.
Angie
Still WAY too much crapola and hoops to go through……much as I’d like to see Hawaii once more before I die …. forget it! Take your islands and shove it….
Anonymouse
Cannot accept there are a few rules to follow. My god we cannot inconvenience your white privilege can we. Grow up please. And thank GOD you wont be coming to Hawaii with that angry attitude.
Steve R
I hope that Common Pass is planning to make an iPad app. Not everyone uses a phone.
Wendy M.
Thank you for the update! I hope that the vaccination exemption is indeed coming soon. My main concern at this point, though, is the awful wait once you’ve de-planed in Honolulu. I’ve returned home to Hawaii twice during the pandemic – once on September 1st and the second time on May 14th. On 9/1, the wait to show my QR code was about 45 minutes, and I thought that was awful. On 5/14, the wait was 1 hour and 14 minutes! First, we waited in a hot, crowded jet bridge, with no social distancing and no ventilation. Then, we wound our way through the airport until finally checking in. I fear that even with a vaccination exemption, there won’t be any improvement in the wait times.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Wendy.
Thanks. Yes, we hear you. The state is aware of the problem, although we have not heard what they are doing to remediate it.
Aloha.
Wendy M
I can’t help but believe that if Gov Ige, Lt. Gov Green, and a handful of our politicians all had to wait in that crowded line for well over an hour, the state would somehow figure out a way to fix it…
CJ H
Got our tests thru Southwest in SMF, results in 18 hours. Boarding in SMF smooth, except the pre clear line was late opening & closed after 20 min, so many folks did not get to be precleared. At OGG, we got off, no one to guide us & when we got to baggage claim exit, we were sent back all the way to gate 23. Then a line of hundreds of people was waiting, but with our preclear we were let to go downstairs. Again a line, but a little sign that pointed for vaccinated persons to exit. Finally. Got to Budget & car was waiting & the car lot was full.CJ
Lindy
Thank you for this new info! It seems finally the governor is paying attention to the science! I’ll be ready to travel back to the beautiful state of Hawaii, and enjoy nature as it’s meant to be!
Andrea
Dear Lindy, I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year!! I’m getting very excited & can’t wait ♡♡
Annie T
Thank you for these updates! Very appreciated.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Annie.
Most welcome. Thanks for your first comment; hope to see you again.
Aloha.
Karin
Thank you! That was very useful
Gloria G
Barbara M, ALL insurance does not cover testing travel. The trusted partners do not take insurance or Medicare. I just had to pay on the mainland and am getting tested today on Maui @ $150 per test. Please tell me how I can get insurance to cover this?
Barbara M
Gloria… what I stated – correctly – is that the federal govt offers the test for free. If an entity wants to charge for their “service” thru can that’s why the pricing is all over the place.
Gloria G.
Barbara M: Yes, now I understand.
Nanjo
Barb. The government offers the test for free, but they do bill insurance if you have it. Medicare paid for ours several times. However, if you want a rapid you DO have to pay.
Terry d
My insurance carrier paid for the test but it took 2 months to get paid. Ive heard that govt rules say they have to pay for the test. Not sure if uw would bill for the test. Problem I had only 1 approved test taker could meet the 72 hrs window and that was $250 on thier time schedule. So submit a claim and fight it out.
I really don’t see the need for a passport as Tahiti Iceland Greece etc are all just fine with CDC vaccine card. I keep hearing horror stories abt IBM is selling your health data so really nothing electronic needed. CDC should have created a website to register your vaccine so governments and only governments with approved inquires would clear vaccine status requests.
I feel if hi goes over the deep end by using digital passports it could have the opposite effect of encouraging travel but ppl will fly col hrs more to where the CDC vac card gets you in no nasty health and other data sharing or show your digital passport to get in and the evil empire will hit you with tons of ads.
Ben W
Why would the state only allow the self-pay CVS tests? If someone has insurance and can get it covered through the no cost option, why disallow that for the “trusted travel partners?” Sounds like a scam.
BARBARA M
BEN W… Your post is very confusing. First, not only does insurance cover testing by all of the “Trusted Partners” but in some cases, it doesn’t even involve insurance. (The test itself is offered free by the Federal Govt – yes, some entities charge for service “over and above” but the test itself has to be offered at no charge. Our state offers FREE testing by Vault to any resident, travel or no travel, and Vault is a Trusted Partner. Perhaps the “trusted partners” charge for Rapid Results testing but Vault does Rapid Results and they don’t charge.
Scott C
If I got a vaccine in hawaii and am traveling to California for a trip and then returning home to hawaii does my vaccine “passport” work? Or do I need to take a negative covid test?
Nanjo
Sorry. Yes you are coming from the mainland so yes you need the test
Gloria G
Barbara M … too late. Did the Hawaiian partner in San Diego. Perfect back within 24 hours – easy and I was super stressed. It was only $90pp. (haha only) How much was it at Walgreens? We have to pay $150 ea on Maui before Kauai.
Gloria G.
Walgreens website states that they do not guarantee you will have in time for travel. When I phoned they said 3 – 5 days.
Bill T
Gloria G, Walgreens ID now is ready in 3 hours, of course they will not promise, who would. It works, go early and you have time to go back the next day if needed. it’s just amazing.
David B
I believe the goal is for Hawaii to be able independently verify someone arriving from anywhere else has been vaccinated, and not just take their word for it – correct?
I don’t see how this will be possible unless the vaccinating entities are in fact keeping detailed vaccination information about each individual that received it in their respective jurisdictions, going back six months now. And, of course, is given permission by the individual to disclose this information to “Common Pass.” All kinds of entities, from churches to drug stores to Hospitals and Dr. offices are jabbing people. The cards handed out were for the benefit of the person – initially at least mostly to remind them they had a follow up appointment and let the follow up jabbers see what/when of the first jab.
When flying to a country that requires a malaria or other type of vaccination not commonly provided in the US, how does someone prove it? With a piece of paper having colorful and official looking stamps?
Nancy D
Lots of fake cards with peoples friends lot number and what shot received. 🤣. If the governor wants to be in control like this. No way to verify after millions vaccinated just in lines and lines and one little white card. With a scribble of a health care workers signature and how will they ever be able to verify it. Never.
Barbara M
Nancy… so your suggestion is?
David B
Nancy made the same point I made, or at least tried to make. It is not possible to independently verify whether a person claiming to be vaccinated is in fact vaccinated, although a “32 digit code” sounds impressive.
Anonymouse
Lol go ahead and try to lie about it and see what happens
Nancy D
Ok sure. I will let ya know
Nancy D
There isn’t a suggestion just lots of vaccine cards that will be waived at getting off the airplane
James B
Ignorance of the process indicates that you are unvaccinated. The linking information from the fax cards to the VAMS website correlates to the information entered on the safe travels website. There you prove who you are, upload your physical fax card AND your VAMS confirmation.
If you are suggesting that people can switch/steal someone’s info, I would suggest that you don’t take your own advice.
Nancy D
Yup easy to do it. No way they can prove not …….
Ed. C
Never heard of VAMS website and didn’t use it for my vaccination, so I and MILLIONS of people who got the jabs would not have a VAMS confirmation. Where I live you don’t even need an appointment to get the jab, you just walk in and get it – there’s vaccination sites everywhere. Now what?
Not trying to be confrontational, just trying to understand why you think everyone has a VAMS confirmation to upload to the Safe Travels website. They don’t.
Ben W
I got both of my shots through a major academic medical center. I’m a doc and def haven’t heard of VAMS till I just googled it.
The state government reeks of corruption and seems more into under the table deals with corporations than science or CDC guidelines. Time to end this collusion of exclusive and expensive “trusted travel partner” testing.
David B
“Ignorance of the process indicates that you are unvaccinated.”
Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
Paul C
exactly and the fact that Nancy D states she works for a hospital and another person indicates they are a doctor and neither know about this is rather concerning if you ask me. Hopefully neither will be on my flights coming up
Lisa C
Paul C, why are you so worried if you are vaccinated? Why care who’s on your flight? Hmmmm….
David B
The opening paragraph of the VAMS website:
“Participation in VAMS is currently limited to jurisdictions, federal agencies, and organizations, that have enrolled in VAMS and to the individuals who live, work, or volunteer in those organizations and jurisdictions. VAMS is also available for use in traditional medical practices that do not have existing IT systems for COVID-19 vaccination clinic management.”
You can read it yourselves, but it is very clear that this is something optional, and no where do I see any statements that all vaccine providers are enrolled in VAMS or have been since the beginning.
Anonymouse
Hey @fbi apparently Nancy here will be forging vaccine ID cards. She doesn’t realize all the information is easily verifiable.
Nancy D
You just can’t accept that it’s happening.
Anonymouse
And you seem hell bent on trolling this site! Why?
Guess what you don’t just “flash” your card.
It’s uploaded on the safe travels site.
A record of your ssn, ID insurance etc are all entered when you get your vaccine which you obviously have not gotten or you wouldn’t be saying it’s easy to fake. It’s not.
I’m guessing you’ve never flown, never traveled outside the country. You have to show your “papers” everywhere you go. Try refusing when you attempt to enter any nation “gasp“ even to get back into the USA.
Nancy D
Well I work at a hospital and there is no way to trace every single person where they got the vaccine. It’s only by Lott number and what brand name.
Maybe I did get the vaccine. I work at a trauma center big one …. and just venting that there is no way it can be proven not until a bar scan etc etc.
Nancy D
I live in the SF Bay Area. I have been to Hawaii many times. I am not trolling. LOL. I am a citizen born in California. More than 50 years ago. Lol
Ed. C
Perhaps YOU had to give SS# and insurance when you got your jabs. I did not. Only thing I showed was a picture ID. The CDC card was handed to me with only the date and lot number filled out. Nothing else – I put my name and birthdate on it when I got home.
James B
Apparently you read my post with the same mental alacrity that refuses to recognize multiple checks on identity and accuracy + jail time and fines. Please employ your “freedoms” to try out your suppositions.
Nanjo
Nancy B. My vaccine card lists the pharmacy store # in addition to the make and lot number. So they can definitely track where and when I got it
Paul C
Nanjo
Nancy has been on here for a week or two now screaming every day how people will fake the card to go where they need to go. Apparently she has never heard of identity theft and fraud.
I say go ahead and let these people who want to cheat TRY and fake these vaccination cards. Scary how uneducated some of these supposedly medical professionals are.
Paul C
all I can do is clap and say well stated
Paul C
It is NOT happening. And if it is point me in the direction of who is doing it and I will have the FBI on their door today. You dont seem to realize working in the medical field that every thing is documented somewhere. Mine is actually registered with the CDC and VAMS. That happened when I got my first vaccine. Someone wants to try and steal my identity I dare you to. You nor they will get away with fraud.
It is pretty scary to think you and this doctor work in the medical profession and you dont seem to know much about your profession
NancyD
Well PAULC if you have faith in the vaccine and you got it. You should be protected right??? So don’t worry about getting infected if you had the vaccine. Have faith in it 🤣
Joerg H
David,
Each state, and in some cases each county has its own tracking system. Some of them utilize the CDC’s system. Also, the individual entities that gave you the shot often also keep track. So the information may actually be in more than one place. All this depends on where you live. For example, in my case, I live in California (LA), I got the shot at Walgreens, and they keep a vaccination record. That record also got sent to my healthcare provider, so it’s on my chart there. When I log into my Walgreens account, I can see it and I can see it on my chart when I log into my healthcare provider. BTW, since I also have a connection from the Health App on my iPhone to my health records, I can also see it there. However, since I live in California, this information is also sent to CAIR (California Immunization Registry). So, as I mentioned above, the info is in more than one place. Unfortunately, there is not currently any national database that tracks this info. It’s all handled locally and by the states. That makes creating some kind of verifiable system to confirm if you are vaccinated (ooh, scary, a vaccine passport) difficult. Or at least, it means that the system would need to connect to a LOT of other systems to gather that info. Again, your mileage may vary depending on where you live. But, trust me, the info is out there …
James B
Aloha David.
To answer your question: No, I was delivered by my mother standing up! It would be helpful if you and other complaining individuals would educate yourselves about the process for vaccination verification. If you would simply follow the process on the safe travels website for the Hawaii residents who wish to travel inter island with proof of vaccination, you would discover that indeed there are multiple layers of proving you are who your vax card says you are.
Larry W
I’m not sure if others feel the same way I do or if they have even thought of it, but the use of Trusted Partners for covid testing is really a pie in the sky event. I live in Indio, California. The nearest Trusted Testing Partner accepted by CommonPass is over 250 miles from me. I would use up my 72 hours getting there, getting tested, driving back, packing up, driving to Phoenix to fly to Honolulu with no guarantees my results would be ready. And, oh by the way, I’m 67 and have had both my shots. Why do I want to spend an extra $300 to $500 dollars on 2 covid tests??? I had hoped to come back to Hawaii this summer to buy a retirement home but it’s just not worth it. Maybe I’ll come back for a vacation some day. Hawaii hasn’t made it all that attractive though…
Jojo
Hi Larry,
Look at the number of “Trusted Partners” there are in Japan and Asia! Almost double the amount of the U.S. and of course, very little or none for the European Nations? I’m a resident and dealing with the National Guard and Police coming to my home because 14 months ago, our Governor made an “Emergency Declaration” in it is quarantine rules. I’ve been vaccinated since February and have a negative covid test but that’s not good enough for the Hawaii leadership. 🙁
Barbara M
Larry… on the same situation as you. I’ve always wondered about what $$$ have been exchanged to become a Trusted Partner!
Nita C
ALWAYS follow the $$$$$$
Andrea
Aloha Nita, I have turned one of my bedrooms into a beach room. I have real pictures of Hawaii (Oahu….mainly) hanging on my wall. I also painted one side of my wall a mint green color & that reminds me of the waters in Hawaii mixed with the light blue. The mint green is a very pretty color! So for now when I want to go to Hawaii I just come into my beach room♡♡ I thought it was a good idea to have a beach room:)
Joerg H
Larry,
Have you looked at Vault? They do it via the mail.
Paul C
Larry W you have CVS right in your city and they are on the approved Hawaii Travel testing list.
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“Your papers, please!!”. If Hawaii does this unconstitutional, illegal violation of my individual rights, they can kiss my tourism dollars goodbye. And I go to Hawaii often. And there are millions like me who still value privacy and freedom. Cancun, and the Carribean are looking better all the time ..
Marc…and we value respect and the health and well being of all…. don’t you just love it when a win win scenario works out for everyone?
I agree. I am planning to go next summer with the family to celebrate graduations, but no way will I go if vaccination is required.
Like I said, Angie, Hawaii is not for you…and that’s OK. The old different strokes for different folks. Hawaii is a wonderful place, but for a lot of reasons, not real tolerant of behavior that smacks of “I care more about me then the people that live there”. The whole reason for requiring a vaccine is because of the simple fact that culturally we are an island, it tends to breed what has been called the Aloha spirit. Take care of each other. We also don’t have the hospital space that others enjoy so it’s not as easy to ignore the Covid deaths places like Florida can when they prioritize the economy over lives lost. If we had the per capita cases Florida did we would be a disaster area.
Like I said, the “I care about me over the people that live there” attitude has it’s roots way before the Pandemic hit, but the vaccine requirement is just one more example of how Hawaii will be dealing with people trying to get what they can out of the state with little regard for the consequences.
JohnW, I agree with you; not only is getting vaccinated important for your own health, it’s showing that you care about other people. God forbid that Angie has a family member get Covid to see the devastating effects that happen and the cost of the medical care or the long term effects. Just listen to the “long haul Covid survivors”.
Everyone needs to be responsible for their actions. For Hawaiians; which I understand, it’s about “ohana”….family and respect. That’s why the younger people call older people “uncle” and “auntie”, even if they are not related.
That’s the lessons that the mainland has forgotten and that’s unfortunate.
I believe in the preciousness of others, that’s not the case. I cannot get the vaccine due to medical reasons. I have been to Hawaii twice when I was younger, and love it. I wanted to go again with my family.
ANGIE T… I know it’s personal but if you had even so much as implied that earlier, your comments would not have been interpreted the way they were!
JOHNW… AMEN!
John W- Have you been to Florida? I have 3 times during the pandemic. There were more deaths, per capita in New York, Michigan and California than Florida. All states with strict lockdowns. Florida had far less suicides and there schools were open. Perhaps you didn’t know Florida has a high elderly population and to that population can be deadly. We are no longer in a state of emergency here in Hawaii. In fact on Kauai, we never had more than 2 people in the hospital due to covid. So please stop telling people what to do. We live in the USA and people are free to make choices. Stop your fear mongering and start examining the current data. By the way, we will never get to 70% vaccination rate!
ANGIE… Your ignorance continues – you are obviously not aware that vaccinations are not required – testing is required if you are not vaccinated. Period. End of sentence! To echo JOHNW, it would appear that you wouldn’t get along very well in Hawaii anyway – ALOHA SPIRIT and all that jazz!
Hi. Do you have to be vaccinated to come to Hawaii for a visit from another state? If you want to go from Maui to Honolulu do you need to be vaccinated? Thankyou.
Hi Debra.
You need to follow the state’s Safe Travels testing rules to visit from another state at this time. There is no requirement for testing or vaccination flying between islands.
Aloha.
We plan on going to Hawaii July 13-18, 2021 to Oahu. Do you think by that time we won’t need to take the NAAT test before boarding Hawaiian airlines?
Dear Bridget, I hope that you had a wonderful trip to Hawaii!! ❤🐢🐠🌺🍍🥥🌏🏖🛩🌈🌞 I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Hawaii next year!! ♡♡
Dear Bridget, how was your trip? Hope you had a wonderful & fun time! 😊
Recently divorced and my ex-husband wants to take our two teenage sons to Hawaii. Neither of our sons is vaccinated, or have been tested. The requested vacation time to go to Hawaii is 6/25-7/5/21. Will my sons be allowed to go to Hawaii? I am not in favor of this vacation for many reasons, so are my sons, and am wondering if they are even able to travel to the Hawaiian islands at this time? They are 14 and 17 years old. Can you help answer this question for me?
Hi Ann.
Yes, they can visit Hawaii. They will need to comply with the state’s Safe Travels testing protocol. It needs to be followed exactly. Let us know if you have any questions. https://hawaiicovid19.com/travel/
Aloha.
ANN H… As a business entity, the appropriate thing for BOH to do is refer you to the appropriate website. However, I’m a private citizen so I can offer this. At this time, they will have to be tested COvid negative within 72 hours of their flight departing for Hawaii. Those results will have to be printed out, saved as a pdf and uploaded to Hawaii Safe Travels. The test will have to be a PRC or Rapid Results Test done by a Hawaii Trusted Partner, one of which is sometimes not easy to find. (In our entire state, there is not a single Trusted Partner that does the Rapid Results test and the 72 hour test results can give anyone an anxiety attack!) Make sure their father understands all that before he considers taking them on the trip. The Rapid Results tests do cost $$$.
ANN H… Just a thought. Apparently you are the custodial parent and I wonder if you would have to give permission for a minor child (children) to be tested? Just a thought. (Please don’t sue me!)
I have never had a test, and don’t want to take one. I have traveled to several other states already without having to take a test. When will this not be required as o would like to bring my family June 2022?
Dear Angie, as it stands right now for people who are unvaccanited they will need to test in order to go to Hawaii. Hope thus info helps. God bless you, Psalms 91:11❤
When will passengers be able to utilize their vaccination record instead of testing to travel from mainland ?to Hawaii
Dear Rochelle, as of July8th I think it was cdc vaccinated cards are accepted.
Is it mandatory to have fully vaccinated prior travelling to Hawaii from Phils.?
I am confused regarding the CommonPass Hawaii system for the vaccination passport. I understand how to use the site to upload test results and use an approved test partner since we are coming from USA – but it states the only airlines you can use are Hawaiian Air from Phoenix to Honolulu OR United between Denver & Honolulu, Kona or Maui.
So to arrive in Hawaii, negative test, logged in CommonPass – you MUST arrive on one of these airlines??
Thanks
Hi Edsel.
CommonPass Hawaii is in a beta mode only, so at this time it is extremely limited, as you see. That will change, but we don’t have details yet.
Aloha.
Paul C;
The covid “vaccine” is not the “tried and true” approved flu vaccine. I am sure you are aware of this, so I don’t understand why you are using the vaccine to prove a point. If you really want to get technical, the high 2017/2018 flu pandemic numbers were in spite of the tried and true, approved flu vaccine, of which they run out of every flu season. So, clearly many get vaccinated.
Thank you so much kimberly …thank you !!!!!!!!
Can you please tell me if non-vaccinated persons will be able to come to Hawaii after testing (of course) Will I need a statement from my doctor regarding the decision not to vaccinate? We have a vacation rental ready, however we are getting nervous about the July 4th turn of events.
Hi Kathleen.
Yes the testing option will remain in effect. No letter from your doctor is needed. Just follow the rules exactly.
Aloha.
BUT…Just what are the rules? If my party of 5 ALL vaccinated (including 2 teen-agers) arrive at OGG with our vaccination cards, do we need any other proof? What else do we need to have with us? Thank you in advance
Hi Macvickers.
I don’t think you are following the rules at all. There is no exemption for vaccination at this time. You need to follow the Safe Travels testing procedures exactly. https://hawaiicovid19.com/travel/
Aloha.
I’m confused. How can you say that I have not followed the rules?
As a Californian, I have followed ALL the rules from Lockdown, limiting outings to the grocery while masked, got tested continually, and got vaccinated as soon as available.
I want to follow the rules on Maui as well when I take my family to celebrate various missed events. I just ask that I know clearly what the rules are from the most reliable source.
Hi Macvickers.
What we are saying is that according to current rules, there are no exemptions for vaccinated travelers. You need to comply with the testing requirements set by the state found at https://hawaiicovid19.com/travel/.
Aloha.
Macvickers. As stated above by BOH the travel rules are very different in Hawaii than in California. Hopefully they will allow visitors vaccinated on the mainland to skip getting a COVID test before flying to Hawaii after July 4th, but this depends on vaccination rates of the people who live in Hawaii. Right now you need to plan to get ALL of you tested BEFORE travel. You must use only certain labs. Check on Hawaii Safe Travels website. Aloha.
MACVICKERS W… You do need to upload your information to Safe Travels as stated in a previous post but I would suggest to upload your information to Safe Travels well before you become embroiled in your testing and your trip. Each adult will have to register separately on Safe Travels – children below age 18 can be registered as part of a parent’s registration but after anyone age 18 or older has to register under their own name. (Therefore, you may need 5 registrations.) Since you need flight numbers, accommodation addresses and phone numbers, etc., this is easier done at your leisure rather than when pressed for that information. Your entries will not expire. And do not forget – only PRC/NAAT/Rapid Results testing by a Hawaii Trusted Partner is acceptable – antibody or antigen tests are not. You are lucky – there are tons of Trusted Partner locations in California – far more than anywhere else!
Macvickers, you will still need to test in CA. Go to a trusted partner of Safe Travels Hawaii. Not sure where you are located, but you could go to Carbon Health or whoever is set up at your airport you are flying out of. We fly out of San Jose and they have a set up you can drive to and take the test. Takes 24-48 hours but they are fairly quick nowadays. Once you get your results, set up your trip details on Safe Travels and load your test results. I would print a copy to have with you as well. If you have any other questions would be happy to answer as I’ve been to Oahu/Maui/Kauai about 10 times in the last year.
I love this site! I love Jeff and Rob! I love the information I get here! I love that many of you put thought and caring into the words that you post.
I DO NOT LOVE having to read tirade after tirade about the value (or not) of the vaccine. I DO NOT LOVE the quarrels and snide remarks between posters. I DO NOT LOVE having to open post after post after post just in case there MIGHT be some useful information and instead find yet another quarrel.
Hi Barbara.
How’s everything going there? Thanks for your kindness and support of us. It means a lot. We hope to see you soon.
Aloha, R/J.
Thanks BOH for asking – yesterday was the turning point – today (Day 13) almost no pain and what there is is very isolated to the incision and the muscles I’ve overused in attempts at walking. Ice for the first, heat for the second and I am indeed a new woman! DEFINITELY puts 07/16-08/06 on the map! Can’t wait to meet you and Muley! Question – any thoughts on fully vaccinated being the travel standard by July? Mahalo nui loa for all you do and post-covid hug to The Mule!
Hi Barbara.
Great news! You’re on the calendar. Hawaii has the intention to have this in effect around July 4. But can they actually do it? We don’t know. Fingers crossed.
Aloha.
Ditto! Thank you!
Dear Barbara, yes I agree with everything you said in your May28th post!! Well said. God bless you, Psalms 91:11❤😇
Now being bias with Paul C on his side. You guys should be even.
How do I remove myself from a “comment feed?” Thank you
Hi Linda.
Thanks for asking. Each email you receive has the manage subscription link embedded. To make it easier, we just removed you from current subscriptions. You can always resubscribe if you wish.
Aloha.
Thank you. I was just overwhelmed with email responses from a comment I was interested in. Already resubscribed. Don’t want to ever miss Beat of Hawaii updates. They’re great!
Linda
Hi Linda.
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Thanks for that!
Aloha.
I love the positive news you guys are giving to us mainland travelers!!! You have been my pipeline to what’s going on. 2 weeks from today we are scheduled to fly into Kauai. The news keeps getting better!! Mahalo abd bless you for being here for all of us!
Hi Pam.
Thanks! Have a great time on your Kauai travels.
Aloha.
Dear Pam, I hope that you had a wonderful trip to Hawaii in June!😀 I can’t wait for my trip next year🌍✈🌈🌞🛩🏖❤🎉🎫🍍🥥
Hello Authors of B.O.H.
I was a bit confused on your response to my comment.
Are you going to be able to post it?
Sincerely,
J.T.
Hi J.T.
We did post your comment and our reply. If there’s something else, please let us know.
Aloha.
Aloha to all the people reading this and thank you for your ability to let people know whats going on. I’ve been a resident of Hawaii for 30 years and my husband born and raised here. We got our vaccine from the Kauai department of health. We also had a negative SARS-Cov-2-RT-PCR covid test, however, it wasn’t from a “Tested Partner” it was from a hospital. (There were no trusted partners in Iceland or the E.U. (There are 100 in Japan) Just to be very clear, We were ordered to a 10 day quarantine in our own home and if we break quarantine are subject to a $5,000 fine and/or 1 year in prison. How much sense does this make? The money trail is unquestionable. For those of you who are in denial, how can Kauai urge everyone to get free covid testing at the war memorial however that test is not accepted for travel? (Big sign that says so) These test are not a “Trusted Partner. So, does that mean we can’t trust the County of Kauai tests? Makes no sense whatsoever. If it’s not about money and control, what is this about? Answers please. I got my test because I wanted to continue traveling the world. We were treated with the utmost respect until we got home and were confronted by the National Guard and Police. They have been coming to our house, texting and emailing us several times a day to make sure we are in quarantine. Totally ridiculous. I would have never got that vaccine had I known. For all of the paranoid people, FYI, the County of Kauai are playing games that I don’t play.
Hi J.T
Thanks for your dozens of comments. We can’t speak to how the state and counties arrived at what they did in terms of testing, what kinds, and from where. Also, we are sad to learn the way that you have been treated. The rules are least clear in terms of what is and isn’t acceptable, and the unfortunate alternative of an unalterable 10-day quarantine.
Aloha.
I appreciate and understand your situation. I had a problem with” Safe Travels” in October and had to quarrantine,despite a negative covid test. It was an incredibly intimidating experience,having the national guard check up on me ,in fatigues,driving a colossal hummer through my small neighborhood.i offered to retake the covid test at War Memorial but was denied. I am still upset about the way I was treated,I was polite but the national guard people were intimidating,macho and arrogant. It didn’t have to be that way.
The reason for these mandates was to stop a surge that would overhelm hospital capacity which has never happened in over a yr, and then that was bc a pol didn’t use the capacity offered by the federal govt. Also this started the do what ever the pols says and media will cancel your account for the sin of posting real peer reviewed research papers proving the opposite position. So I think it’s time we demand pol / health depts are required to provide real peer reviewed scieNce based facts for the loss of liberty. It would be nice if courts would do their jobs by demanding that the govt prove in court that what they’re asking is valid before any mandate is put into effect. So really we need the court not the pols / admin state to issue any mandate esp those that deny liberty. That said where’s the proof that masks do anything to stop the spread? If Ige can’t offer it up then we need the mandate removed immediately. From the real sci papers I’ve seen there is not enough stats evidence to support such a claim. We could have a great vaccine db run by the federal govt to register those vaccinated fo pennies on the dollar for what we have wasted on masks, privacy invading apps. We really need to shutdown the big tech fast buck artists, and open the economy now.
Terry D. Totally agree with you. There is no “Emergency” and the fact that we are still under an Emergency proclamation is absolutely ludicrous. Fear=Control. 🙁
I agree with Terry and JT. The saddest and most unacceptable thing is loss of liberties, not the relatively low amounts of sickness snd deaths in all states.
America and most of all hawaii in this case have not only gone off the rails but have essentially been committing treason against the usa and its citizens by emergency proclamations and mandates that are ongoing and not a true emergency to the nation. Each day is a violation of the most precious amendments in the bill of rights, which are guaranteed rights unless martial law is instated. Well there has been no martial law declared. So how is these mandates even possible? Im not sure 🤔
CF 600,000 deaths due to Covid19 is NOT I repeat not an emergency to you?
Fear about oh say Illegal immigrants. Yeah that was ok right?
Fear about socialism. That was ok too right? As long as it falls in your political way of thinking and whom you support your totally ok with fear mongering.
A governor concerned about their citizens is NOT I repeat not fear mongering. Isnt there a florida site you could be whining on instead of coming here and trying to ruin it for all of us who are actually GOING to Hawaii?
Paul C.
FYI, I’m a resident of Kauai and have been for over 30 years. There is no “Emergency” here. You would know that if you lived here. Do you have any idea how many suicides there have been due to the absurd restrictions that do NOT follow the “Science”? The suicide rate is 7 x more than the covid fatalities. We personally know police officers that reported 5 suicides in 1 week! Of course, that’s never reported on the daily Covid Facebook posting by our lame mayor? I continue to see people walking alone in the hot sun with their masks on. If they haven’t been psychologically affected by the fear mongering, then what is it?
That pretty much says it all CF…you think Mask mandates and other precautions
that were taken are worse then the untold suffering by millions from Covid and all the lives that have been devastated by it….
You can certainly recover from a bad year for business or a missed vacation, not so much from death.
John W, its not about what i want, its that hawaii in particular feels that you can change laws and what basically amounts to god given rights as a us citizen? How about a big NO to that 😀 Anyone that took history and civics should realize that the constitution and bill of rights is precious. In fact it states in that document to actually do what was done where congress was stormed in a citizen uprising. Why? They want those things, little things like not having to wear a turban in a public place.
Hawaiians complain that they were stolen by the usa. Well usa and hawaii itself are based on that foundation. What about respect for that? Its a two way street
Yet you come across as someone who has no problem with the recent assault on Democracy our Country has experienced??
I’m old fashioned, I think things like democracy, honesty and integrity are important. I have no problem if faced with a national emergency we pull together and do what is most beneficial for all.
Simple fact is Hawaii’s Covid response, while not perfect, saved a lot of lives.
CF;
You are absolutely correct. The governors who locked down their states have broken the law. It’s unfortunate so many people do not know their local or federal laws. Its for this reason they retort, “so 600,000 deaths isn’t a good reason?” The fact is, thats about how many people died fighting the civil war. But, I guess for some, those deaths don’t matter. Those men and women ‘gave’ their lives for the freedoms that were so quickly and without logical thought or reasoning given up this past year of which, maybe/probably will never be fully given back. That scares me far more than dying from a virus. I can easily control whether I get sick or not just by taking care of myself. Its far more difficult to get back freedoms lost. Its a proven fact.
Your logic and thinking are on the correct path.
OMG. Have you literally gone down the rabbit hole? Your ignorance of the powers inherent in the fifty states belies your knowledge of the content of the 10th Amendment and various state laws that place public emergencies, disaster declarations and even martial law in the hands of the state legislatures and Governors.
As for your false equivalency of Civil War deaths, I am assuming that you are not an insurrectionist. Otherwise you would have realized that the 7, growing to 11 states and Indian territories that joined the previous insurrectionists accounted for ~255,000 of the ~600,000 deaths total in the war. If “giving one’s life for their freedoms” equates to insurrectionist rebels who fought to keep their slave-based “freedoms” is equivalent to folks like you who spread false equivalencies and outright falsehoods.
Sorry Kimberly, but your facts, logic, understanding of history and thought processes are sorely lacking.
Do I write this in hopes of influencing your behavior. Nope. But I cannot let your twisted view of the world go unaddressed.
Thanks Kimberly. That is what was taught to me in class yes and what many in mainland usa generally felt for decades sbout the usa govt and individual rights. I havnt heard of what was stated by James B. James b, what you said about 10th amendment may, but probably does NOT override those basic bill of rights protections. It states only martial law can override. And thats at the point where there is citywide riots or immediate imminent danger to a majority of the population, not 1 percent or less from a virus. Staying home or going out in whatever is a right and a choice in usa. Hawaii seems to be more of the opposite.
James B;
Please show me the verbiage in the 10th Amendment that says the government can issue a state if emergency indefinitely.
What an odd thing to ask; if I am an insurrectionist. Where in anything I said did I claim I am an insurrectionist? So do you automatically assume anyone who speaks of the civil war is claiming to be an insurrectionist? And which civil war are you talking about? I am referencing he civil war between the north and south where approx 620,000 soldiers died; 360,000 from the north and 258,000 from the south. The most deaths in any war to date. Did Indians fight in that war? Probably. However, I have no clue how it’s relevant to my point.
yall are the only ones who seem to be living in fear. The rest of us are getting vaccinated doing our part to get things back to normal. Your excuse is what exactly?
Living in fear…. if you were not living in fear you would not have fear of the unvaccinated. You are vaccinated so don’t worry about mask and unvaccinated people. LIVE YOUR LIFE SIR. Don’t let that fresh air scare you.
I hear you Nancy D. People have no idea that we had a flu pandemic in 2017/2018…. oh, and in 2009, because they were never told.
From the CDC: US ONLY numbers
“CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 45 million illnesses, 21 million medical visits, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. This burden was higher than any season since the 2009 pandemic and serves as a reminder of how severe seasonal influenza can be.”
You forgot the next line Specifically, CDC estimates that influenza vaccination during the 2017–2018 influenza season prevented 6.2 million illnesses, 3.2 million medical visits, 91,000 hospitalizations and 5,700 deaths associated with influenza. This report underscores the benefits of the current vaccination program, but also highlights areas where improvements in vaccine uptake and vaccine effectiveness could deliver even greater benefits to the public’s health.
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Yes 61,000 is too many but that is a full 10% of what this pandemic has killed. So yes influenza is bad but no where near as bad as covid19.
Thank you !!!
Where in any of my comments did I say I fear the unvaccinated? I didnt. I am not worried at all. I am fully vaccinated. Someone else wants to roll the dice and not be and possibly get covid thats on them not me. Stop putting words in my mouth that I never said.
PS interesting who you work for advocating the fake vaccine cards. Wonder if they know?
No fear Paul No Fear. Of course my work knows everything about me. It’s a huge medical center hospital. We even have one in Hawaii.
I take it you dont think that 600,000 deaths basically in a years frame time is just no big deal right? Hawaii gets 10-20 million visitors annually and had they stayed open and allowed the virus to spread across Hawaii it would have absolutely devastated the islands.
Vaccines are allowing them to open back up and numbers are now dropping. IT was and is an emergency as long as one citizen is vulnerable to getting covid19.
“Also this started the do what ever the pols says and media will cancel your account for the sin of posting real peer reviewed research papers proving the opposite position” Lol only when you spread lies and misinformation that is politically motivated. Your freedoms are just fine. Stop whining. Your privilege is showing.
“So I think it’s time we demand pol / health depts are required to provide real peer reviewed scieNce based facts for the loss of liberty.” What does this even mean? You would come off much more credible if you used proper spelling. You have lost NO liberty. None.
Not a history major I see “It would be nice if courts would do their jobs by demanding that the govt prove in court that what they’re asking is valid before any mandate is put into effect. So really we need the court not the pols / admin state to issue any mandate esp those that deny liberty” the courts right up to the US Supreme court time after time have ruled that governors have every right to look out for the health of their citizens. SO nice try but history says your wrong.
“That said where’s the proof that masks do anything to stop the spread?” Do tell me please why do doctors and nurses wear masks if they dont work? Huh? you cant nor will you answer that.
For the Record:
Just under 10.4 million visitors is the record for Hawaii visitors, definitely not as you’ve claimed to have “10-20 million visitors annually”, which implies on a regular basis. Let’s make that fact perfectly clear.
It’s well known that 2020 had only around 2.7 million visitors, and the last time it was below 3 million was in 1975. Although 2021 will make a gain over 2020, it won’t even be close to 10 million, especially with what’s happening now. The fact is Hawaii had never broken 10 million visitors until 2019. They didn’t break 8 million until 2012, and the previous high before that was in 2006.
I have been reading the comments on this and several other recent posts and it amazes me how many people are so paranoid about massive numbers of tourists with bogus vaccination cards. I am not naive and I know that there will be someone out there stupid enough to try it, but believe it or not, the overwhelming majority of people traveling to Hawaii are hard working, honest people who just want to have a relaxing vacation with family or friends, and they have zero interest in risking not only the money they spent on the trip, but their freedom, their reputation and their livelihoods by presenting fake vaccine records, which is a felony. This is just yet another example of how this entire Covid fiasco has programmed people to allow fear to rule their thoughts and their lives. No reasonable person thinks that thousands of people are going to be entering the state every day with fake cards. At some point, common sense and a trust that the overwhelming majority of people are honest and good must overrule the fear.
Amen, Sheryl. Thank you.
No one knows what the final outcome will be. But, you can be sure, the CDC vaccination cards will not be accepted as proof of vaccination. There will be some other tool in place to make sure your info is correct. Probably some kind of App with a QR code connected to the health department of your state of residence.
interesting how the vaccine card I still have from when I was a child was perfectly acceptable and now it isnt? There has to be a basic honesty and the honor system should be good enough. But according to Nancy everyone traveling has faked documents so you know
Sheryl B,
Exactly! It’s all just a small but vocal minority of people who are fear-mongering. The best part is that the answer to the issues they raise about fake cards is having vaccine passports, which they ALSO don’t like. So in the end, it’s all just a lot of fear-mongering so that they can get what they really want, which is to pretend that there’s nothing going on and so that they don’t have to do anything to help protect Hawaii during a pandemic.
I am always amazed at the very same people who claim when it comes to actually following rules and guidelines laid out they don’t ever want to have to follow any rules. They think freedom means never ever having to do anything they don’t want to do.
Aloha Sheryl, very well said!! I am one of those hard working people who can’t wait to get to Hawaii!! I’ve been dreaming all my life of my trip to Oahu & now I’m making my dream come true for next year♡♡
Thank you. Thank you thank you
Well said Sheryl….simple fact is most people are not like Nancy…most people are in fact getting vaccinated…most people will be just fine.
Nothing will ever be 100 percent, the huge death toll and suffering is mostly behind us and what’s left is a lot of people doing the right thing and some going down the narcissism or conspiracy theory rabbit hole….we have to look forward like you obviously are.
Well since all you are getting vaccinated you should be protected so don’t worry about us that decide not to. You are protected that’s why you have chosen to get vaccinated.
It’s not as simple as that Nancy, there are plenty of people that have medical issues that prevent them from getting vaccinated, protecting them is important too. Getting vaccinated is also about doing what’s best for society as whole as well as enhanced personal safety. I think you said you work in a hospital?
Being unvaccinated means you have a better chance of carrying the virus into a place that has patients that are more vulnerable and could die from Covid.
Getting vaccinated is also doing your part to get the economy going quicker.
Yes I do work at a very large trauma center I wear my mask to work never take it off and I do protect my coworkers and patients. The flu kills people with low immune also. It’s contagious also and I have seen people on ventilators with the flu. I am responsible around where I am to be
Good to know you are not an anti masker! 🙂
and most people are honest, want to have a nice vacation and even the most ardent anti whatever if they really want to go they will do what is needed to get to Hawaii and not complain too much about it. Folks its not all about you. Its all about all of us as a whole.
OH WELL … Well think that way.
Paul C… thanks remainingvlevel
Headed and expressing yourself so well.
Nancy D.., please go away!
Thank you Barbara! Much appreciated. I run several forums that have large numbers of posters. I get complained to all the time about the things I allow vs not. I am guessing BOH cuts quite a bit of crazy out before we see it! 🙂 Mahalo!
Hi Paul (and Barbara).
We say, “you should have seen the ones that got away.” About 60 comments have been deleted in the past 30 days (which isn’t bad considering the overall number). It’s a tough call. We try our best.
Aloha.
Aloha, BOH. I dare say the overwhelming majority of your subscribers will be so glad when this whole thing is behind us so we can get back to enjoying your posts about Hawaii instead of dreading opening another email filled with comments from about half of a dozen of commenters who do nothing to add to the conversation about the actual post. I don’t care if they are from Portland or Florida.
Mahalo.
Hi Ed.
LOL. We’re with you on that and sure never expected this. Thanks for hanging in there. BTW, we appreciate your 80 comments to date!
Aloha.
I do not envy you having to moderate all of this. Thank you though for all your work. I’d love to buy you guys a beer in Honolulu when I’m there! 6-4-14
Hi Paul.
Thanks. We’re based on Kauai, so if you head this way, please let us know. We appreciate your almost 500 comments to date!
Aloha.
Why should I go away when I am not threatening. Just reality facts I am stating.
So you can not accept that ?
Paul C… thanks for remaining level
headed and expressing yourself so well.
Nancy D.., please go away!
Aloha Guys
Another part of the puzzle is falling into place, thank you.
Hi Roy.
Thanks. We appreciate your frequent comments!
Aloha.
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You trying to scare people? It won’t work.
Take a look all over the internet fake cards everywhere and there is no way they can control all them fake cards going on out there.
Of course it’s against the law. So are fake ID’s Fake drivers license. Fake money. All them gang bangers with guns. The FBI should be concentrated on them guys killing people with guns etc etc.
it’s wrong fake cards of course. But if you are on a plane or wherever and you have that fear of someone having a fake card wear your mask and / or stay home. You can protect yourself if you are paranoid.
Not at all Nancy. By the way I spent a few hours researching this very issue and while yes there are some places you can find a card.
Anyone using them for any travel face serious consequences amd I’m sure will be easily caught. So my point is while it may get you into an event it will not get you into Hawaii
Come on PAUL C I was just in Kona and the guy was standing at the gate asking people to show there vaccination card and he just let them through to baggage claim right off the plane as passengers showed the card walking by him. I seen it with my own eyes. Shish
Well, Nancy, who you gonna believe? Paul C, or your eyes?
My Eyes I was there … going again to.
Paul C must not have faith in his vaccine. Stay home you will be safe there Paul C
Lmao sure you were just in Kona using your faked illegal vaccine card and your faked negative test.
Sheesh is right.
And Paul C is at it again, lol
and CF is still here spewing about Florida. Reminder this is Beat of Hawaii not Beat of Florida. GO elsewhere and advertise for your dear little island oh wait Florida is not an island.
I will take a covid19 test
I will show my vaccine card
I will display a vaccine wrist band and button showing I am vaccinated.
I will not complain about having to wear a mask or follow the rules in Hawaii
I respect the Hawaiian people, its culture and will do everything in my power to do what is needed to get there and have a fantastic time and not complain about it.
I grow very weary of the conspiracy theorists, the fraudsters that claim they can easily forge a vaccine card.
That being said I will do what I need to do without complaining to get to Hawaii and spend tons of money on the local economy.
I for one am willing to follow what ever rules are set out and not complain about them.
Mahalo for voicing this. I get so tired of complaints and sarcasms being posted. Do what you must do to protect yourself and others and enjoy the Aloha in Hawaii!
Thank you me too!
Pam, well said. I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year & I’m getting very excited & can’t wait ♡♡ A very long time coming for me & I’m going to enjoy every second of my time in Beautiful Paradise because this most likely will be my only opportunity to come to Hawaii!!
Have faith in your vaccine then.
PAUL C… It’s always so wonderful to read a voice of reason. Mahalo nui loa!
I’m a little confused. We still need a negative test even thou we had the vaccine? Thank you for your response.
Hi Tina.
Yes, until further notice you do need to follow Hawaii’s testing procedures.
Aloha.
Have there been any comments regarding testing changes for children under 12 traveling with vaccinated parents?
Do you think we all still be talking about this 1 year from now? Just curious what others thoughts are.
Yes Kimberly I think we will be talking about this time for years to come…..
Soon though I also think we will be entering a period of recovery and healing.
The vast majority of Americans are really sick of the name calling, the conspiracy theories, the far right, the far left, etc, etc, You don’t read about them in the news, but they are the norm, not the quackpots.
I’m an optimist, I think a renaissance of people just being being happy to connect in a positive way is on the horizon.
Simple fact is the vaccine is saving lives everyday and this metric is growing exponentially.
Cheers and Aloha
Thank you so much for the updated info. We are planning on spending Thanksgiving near Waikoloa and we still like to read all of your updates regarding the vaccine passports. Once again, thanks so much. It is greatly appreciated. Mahalo.
Hi John.
Thanks for your first-time comment. We hope you have a great time on the Big Island and look forward to hearing from you again.
Aloha.
Aloha John, Have a wonderful trip when you do go!! I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year & I’m getting very excited & can’t wait!!!♡♡♡
I am a resident of Hawaii and I chose not to get the shot. Just follow the money (as a previous poster said). So there is this “pandemic” but all of a sudden we have no “flu”, its all Covid? Yeah, right. When 40% of the CDC employees won’t get vaccinated, that has to tell you something.As for comments that people are using fake vaccine cards to travel – you betcha. Every day people are arriving, I’ve run into multiple people who are traveling on fake cards. Its so simple, heavy card stock and all those people on Facebook stupidly showing their cards to show they got their shots…look at the people who work at the airport. Have you traveled anytime since 9/11? the TSA agents are buffoons. You show your “vax record” on your phone? really? Each state as it’s own program –geez, we can’t even get the “RealID” program off the ground to protect US Citizens and you think they have a coordinated system to verify everyone? The DMV doesn’t even have a coordinated system to check whether or not a vehicle has a washed title coming into another state. The government must think we are all sheep.
Congrats Andy! Got it all figured out and in so little time. Have fun traveling in your alternate universe. As for 60% and rising Hawaii residents who believe in Ohana, you are thankfully in the minority. I hear that Parler is an excellent travel location for those who share your wavelength
JAMES my man Andy is spot on….
In California it’s scam fest!
Our EDD sent thousands of unemployment debit cards to a single mailbox with no red flags. The only way the guy got busted was for wreaking his Lambo that they discovered was payed for with unemployment debit cards.
Over the past several years at the Ag. inspection stations at OGG half the time the guys are to busy BSing or sleeping to watch the monitor.
I’m 55 have white hair TSA waves me through airport security like a I’m senior. “That’s ok sir you don’t have to take your shoes off” I roll with it.
Also in California they just lowered the standard for you to get a Real ID drivers license. Again Andy was right.
Andy, you have been duped about the CDC employees…it’s simply not true.
So much of our Country has been duped in the same way about so much, Chemtrails, Plandemic etc etc. As PT Barnum said “There’s a sucker born every minute”
It’s nothing new, but the internet sure has accelerated the problem……
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/scicheck-posts-distort-testimony-of-federal-health-officials-on-employee-vaccinations/
Thanks for clearing this up for the relatively sane individuals who don’t need to wear tin foil hats. Actually, my fave Barnum-attributed quote is:
“No one ever died poor underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
As 2016 proved his observation, perhaps we can move on…after the investigation.
Yup I got mine fake vaccine card with a friends lot number and vaccine maker. I will prove to Hawaii they can not control me this way.
NANCY D… PLEASE GO AWAY! If not, please identify yourself more clearly so we can now report you to the proper authorities. It boggles the mind that someone who has been so frequent and vocal about the dangers of fake vaccine cards has actually now admitted publicly they participated in that fraud! Get a grip!
Hey Barbara if I am doing something bad. Beat of Hawaii would do the proper thing.
Beat of Hawaii would bar me from commenting. Freedom of speech. I am no threat to anyone
NANCY D… I would suspect they keep you on for entertainment sake.
That could be a good possibility Barbara 🤦♀️
Yeah, you’ll show them all Nancy. I’m not sure your using your real name. If you are. You should be concerned about one of the 1000’s of people on here who might work for the airlines, or law enforcement, or TSA. They might just make the effort to keep an eye out for you coming through their airport. Best wishes.
Hey Bryon … I am crazy but not stupid 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉Thanks for being down to earth …cool …
NANCY D… You really don’t recognize sarcasm do you??!?!?!?
All of a sudden there is no flu. You really dont follow science much do you? Have any idea how flus are spread?
Show me any evidence that 40% of CDC employees wont get the vaccine lmao. What inside sources do you have?
You have run into Multiple people who are sharing with anti science Andy fake vaccine cards and they are using them to travel. And you are totally ok with that? You do realize that is FRAUD punishable up to a felony? Its so simple you say. Why in the world would someone who had just committed fraud admit to you IN Hawaii they were traveling on fake documents?
Yes I have traveled extensively since 911. Oh ok now your attacking TSA agents and calling them names. Do try and get more positive. Look on the good side of things for once
Are Canadian vaccination cards going to be accepted in Hawaii?
Thanks for the information.
Look forward everyday for the updates.
Just wondering if you have the vaccine from Canada will that count, or just from the mainland?
Thanks again
Hi Tom.
We sure hope that Canada isn’t going to have to wait much longer for the same treatment.
Aloha.
Looks like at this time the vaccinations from Canada will not be accepted. Our Government discourages any travel and will not share any vaccine data until the Prime Minister lets us travel again. Bery frustrating, so we Canadians have no choice but use the testing route or get vaccinated in the US before traveling to Hawaii, if that vaccination passport actually gets off the ground.
Still WAY too much crapola and hoops to go through……much as I’d like to see Hawaii once more before I die …. forget it! Take your islands and shove it….
Cannot accept there are a few rules to follow. My god we cannot inconvenience your white privilege can we. Grow up please. And thank GOD you wont be coming to Hawaii with that angry attitude.
I hope that Common Pass is planning to make an iPad app. Not everyone uses a phone.
Thank you for the update! I hope that the vaccination exemption is indeed coming soon. My main concern at this point, though, is the awful wait once you’ve de-planed in Honolulu. I’ve returned home to Hawaii twice during the pandemic – once on September 1st and the second time on May 14th. On 9/1, the wait to show my QR code was about 45 minutes, and I thought that was awful. On 5/14, the wait was 1 hour and 14 minutes! First, we waited in a hot, crowded jet bridge, with no social distancing and no ventilation. Then, we wound our way through the airport until finally checking in. I fear that even with a vaccination exemption, there won’t be any improvement in the wait times.
Hi Wendy.
Thanks. Yes, we hear you. The state is aware of the problem, although we have not heard what they are doing to remediate it.
Aloha.
I can’t help but believe that if Gov Ige, Lt. Gov Green, and a handful of our politicians all had to wait in that crowded line for well over an hour, the state would somehow figure out a way to fix it…
Got our tests thru Southwest in SMF, results in 18 hours. Boarding in SMF smooth, except the pre clear line was late opening & closed after 20 min, so many folks did not get to be precleared. At OGG, we got off, no one to guide us & when we got to baggage claim exit, we were sent back all the way to gate 23. Then a line of hundreds of people was waiting, but with our preclear we were let to go downstairs. Again a line, but a little sign that pointed for vaccinated persons to exit. Finally. Got to Budget & car was waiting & the car lot was full.CJ
Thank you for this new info! It seems finally the governor is paying attention to the science! I’ll be ready to travel back to the beautiful state of Hawaii, and enjoy nature as it’s meant to be!
Dear Lindy, I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year!! I’m getting very excited & can’t wait ♡♡
Thank you for these updates! Very appreciated.
Hi Annie.
Most welcome. Thanks for your first comment; hope to see you again.
Aloha.
Thank you! That was very useful
Barbara M, ALL insurance does not cover testing travel. The trusted partners do not take insurance or Medicare. I just had to pay on the mainland and am getting tested today on Maui @ $150 per test. Please tell me how I can get insurance to cover this?
Gloria… what I stated – correctly – is that the federal govt offers the test for free. If an entity wants to charge for their “service” thru can that’s why the pricing is all over the place.
Barbara M: Yes, now I understand.
Barb. The government offers the test for free, but they do bill insurance if you have it. Medicare paid for ours several times. However, if you want a rapid you DO have to pay.
My insurance carrier paid for the test but it took 2 months to get paid. Ive heard that govt rules say they have to pay for the test. Not sure if uw would bill for the test. Problem I had only 1 approved test taker could meet the 72 hrs window and that was $250 on thier time schedule. So submit a claim and fight it out.
I really don’t see the need for a passport as Tahiti Iceland Greece etc are all just fine with CDC vaccine card. I keep hearing horror stories abt IBM is selling your health data so really nothing electronic needed. CDC should have created a website to register your vaccine so governments and only governments with approved inquires would clear vaccine status requests.
I feel if hi goes over the deep end by using digital passports it could have the opposite effect of encouraging travel but ppl will fly col hrs more to where the CDC vac card gets you in no nasty health and other data sharing or show your digital passport to get in and the evil empire will hit you with tons of ads.
Why would the state only allow the self-pay CVS tests? If someone has insurance and can get it covered through the no cost option, why disallow that for the “trusted travel partners?” Sounds like a scam.
BEN W… Your post is very confusing. First, not only does insurance cover testing by all of the “Trusted Partners” but in some cases, it doesn’t even involve insurance. (The test itself is offered free by the Federal Govt – yes, some entities charge for service “over and above” but the test itself has to be offered at no charge. Our state offers FREE testing by Vault to any resident, travel or no travel, and Vault is a Trusted Partner. Perhaps the “trusted partners” charge for Rapid Results testing but Vault does Rapid Results and they don’t charge.
If I got a vaccine in hawaii and am traveling to California for a trip and then returning home to hawaii does my vaccine “passport” work? Or do I need to take a negative covid test?
Sorry. Yes you are coming from the mainland so yes you need the test
Barbara M … too late. Did the Hawaiian partner in San Diego. Perfect back within 24 hours – easy and I was super stressed. It was only $90pp. (haha only) How much was it at Walgreens? We have to pay $150 ea on Maui before Kauai.
Walgreens website states that they do not guarantee you will have in time for travel. When I phoned they said 3 – 5 days.
Gloria G, Walgreens ID now is ready in 3 hours, of course they will not promise, who would. It works, go early and you have time to go back the next day if needed. it’s just amazing.
I believe the goal is for Hawaii to be able independently verify someone arriving from anywhere else has been vaccinated, and not just take their word for it – correct?
I don’t see how this will be possible unless the vaccinating entities are in fact keeping detailed vaccination information about each individual that received it in their respective jurisdictions, going back six months now. And, of course, is given permission by the individual to disclose this information to “Common Pass.” All kinds of entities, from churches to drug stores to Hospitals and Dr. offices are jabbing people. The cards handed out were for the benefit of the person – initially at least mostly to remind them they had a follow up appointment and let the follow up jabbers see what/when of the first jab.
When flying to a country that requires a malaria or other type of vaccination not commonly provided in the US, how does someone prove it? With a piece of paper having colorful and official looking stamps?
Lots of fake cards with peoples friends lot number and what shot received. 🤣. If the governor wants to be in control like this. No way to verify after millions vaccinated just in lines and lines and one little white card. With a scribble of a health care workers signature and how will they ever be able to verify it. Never.
Nancy… so your suggestion is?
Nancy made the same point I made, or at least tried to make. It is not possible to independently verify whether a person claiming to be vaccinated is in fact vaccinated, although a “32 digit code” sounds impressive.
Lol go ahead and try to lie about it and see what happens
Ok sure. I will let ya know
There isn’t a suggestion just lots of vaccine cards that will be waived at getting off the airplane
Ignorance of the process indicates that you are unvaccinated. The linking information from the fax cards to the VAMS website correlates to the information entered on the safe travels website. There you prove who you are, upload your physical fax card AND your VAMS confirmation.
If you are suggesting that people can switch/steal someone’s info, I would suggest that you don’t take your own advice.
Yup easy to do it. No way they can prove not …….
Never heard of VAMS website and didn’t use it for my vaccination, so I and MILLIONS of people who got the jabs would not have a VAMS confirmation. Where I live you don’t even need an appointment to get the jab, you just walk in and get it – there’s vaccination sites everywhere. Now what?
Not trying to be confrontational, just trying to understand why you think everyone has a VAMS confirmation to upload to the Safe Travels website. They don’t.
I got both of my shots through a major academic medical center. I’m a doc and def haven’t heard of VAMS till I just googled it.
The state government reeks of corruption and seems more into under the table deals with corporations than science or CDC guidelines. Time to end this collusion of exclusive and expensive “trusted travel partner” testing.
“Ignorance of the process indicates that you are unvaccinated.”
Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
exactly and the fact that Nancy D states she works for a hospital and another person indicates they are a doctor and neither know about this is rather concerning if you ask me. Hopefully neither will be on my flights coming up
Paul C, why are you so worried if you are vaccinated? Why care who’s on your flight? Hmmmm….
The opening paragraph of the VAMS website:
“Participation in VAMS is currently limited to jurisdictions, federal agencies, and organizations, that have enrolled in VAMS and to the individuals who live, work, or volunteer in those organizations and jurisdictions. VAMS is also available for use in traditional medical practices that do not have existing IT systems for COVID-19 vaccination clinic management.”
You can read it yourselves, but it is very clear that this is something optional, and no where do I see any statements that all vaccine providers are enrolled in VAMS or have been since the beginning.
Hey @fbi apparently Nancy here will be forging vaccine ID cards. She doesn’t realize all the information is easily verifiable.
You just can’t accept that it’s happening.
And you seem hell bent on trolling this site! Why?
Guess what you don’t just “flash” your card.
It’s uploaded on the safe travels site.
A record of your ssn, ID insurance etc are all entered when you get your vaccine which you obviously have not gotten or you wouldn’t be saying it’s easy to fake. It’s not.
I’m guessing you’ve never flown, never traveled outside the country. You have to show your “papers” everywhere you go. Try refusing when you attempt to enter any nation “gasp“ even to get back into the USA.
Well I work at a hospital and there is no way to trace every single person where they got the vaccine. It’s only by Lott number and what brand name.
Maybe I did get the vaccine. I work at a trauma center big one …. and just venting that there is no way it can be proven not until a bar scan etc etc.
I live in the SF Bay Area. I have been to Hawaii many times. I am not trolling. LOL. I am a citizen born in California. More than 50 years ago. Lol
Perhaps YOU had to give SS# and insurance when you got your jabs. I did not. Only thing I showed was a picture ID. The CDC card was handed to me with only the date and lot number filled out. Nothing else – I put my name and birthdate on it when I got home.
Apparently you read my post with the same mental alacrity that refuses to recognize multiple checks on identity and accuracy + jail time and fines. Please employ your “freedoms” to try out your suppositions.
Nancy B. My vaccine card lists the pharmacy store # in addition to the make and lot number. So they can definitely track where and when I got it
Nanjo
Nancy has been on here for a week or two now screaming every day how people will fake the card to go where they need to go. Apparently she has never heard of identity theft and fraud.
I say go ahead and let these people who want to cheat TRY and fake these vaccination cards. Scary how uneducated some of these supposedly medical professionals are.
all I can do is clap and say well stated
It is NOT happening. And if it is point me in the direction of who is doing it and I will have the FBI on their door today. You dont seem to realize working in the medical field that every thing is documented somewhere. Mine is actually registered with the CDC and VAMS. That happened when I got my first vaccine. Someone wants to try and steal my identity I dare you to. You nor they will get away with fraud.
It is pretty scary to think you and this doctor work in the medical profession and you dont seem to know much about your profession
Well PAULC if you have faith in the vaccine and you got it. You should be protected right??? So don’t worry about getting infected if you had the vaccine. Have faith in it 🤣
David,
Each state, and in some cases each county has its own tracking system. Some of them utilize the CDC’s system. Also, the individual entities that gave you the shot often also keep track. So the information may actually be in more than one place. All this depends on where you live. For example, in my case, I live in California (LA), I got the shot at Walgreens, and they keep a vaccination record. That record also got sent to my healthcare provider, so it’s on my chart there. When I log into my Walgreens account, I can see it and I can see it on my chart when I log into my healthcare provider. BTW, since I also have a connection from the Health App on my iPhone to my health records, I can also see it there. However, since I live in California, this information is also sent to CAIR (California Immunization Registry). So, as I mentioned above, the info is in more than one place. Unfortunately, there is not currently any national database that tracks this info. It’s all handled locally and by the states. That makes creating some kind of verifiable system to confirm if you are vaccinated (ooh, scary, a vaccine passport) difficult. Or at least, it means that the system would need to connect to a LOT of other systems to gather that info. Again, your mileage may vary depending on where you live. But, trust me, the info is out there …
Aloha David.
To answer your question: No, I was delivered by my mother standing up! It would be helpful if you and other complaining individuals would educate yourselves about the process for vaccination verification. If you would simply follow the process on the safe travels website for the Hawaii residents who wish to travel inter island with proof of vaccination, you would discover that indeed there are multiple layers of proving you are who your vax card says you are.
I’m not sure if others feel the same way I do or if they have even thought of it, but the use of Trusted Partners for covid testing is really a pie in the sky event. I live in Indio, California. The nearest Trusted Testing Partner accepted by CommonPass is over 250 miles from me. I would use up my 72 hours getting there, getting tested, driving back, packing up, driving to Phoenix to fly to Honolulu with no guarantees my results would be ready. And, oh by the way, I’m 67 and have had both my shots. Why do I want to spend an extra $300 to $500 dollars on 2 covid tests??? I had hoped to come back to Hawaii this summer to buy a retirement home but it’s just not worth it. Maybe I’ll come back for a vacation some day. Hawaii hasn’t made it all that attractive though…
Hi Larry,
Look at the number of “Trusted Partners” there are in Japan and Asia! Almost double the amount of the U.S. and of course, very little or none for the European Nations? I’m a resident and dealing with the National Guard and Police coming to my home because 14 months ago, our Governor made an “Emergency Declaration” in it is quarantine rules. I’ve been vaccinated since February and have a negative covid test but that’s not good enough for the Hawaii leadership. 🙁
Larry… on the same situation as you. I’ve always wondered about what $$$ have been exchanged to become a Trusted Partner!
ALWAYS follow the $$$$$$
Aloha Nita, I have turned one of my bedrooms into a beach room. I have real pictures of Hawaii (Oahu….mainly) hanging on my wall. I also painted one side of my wall a mint green color & that reminds me of the waters in Hawaii mixed with the light blue. The mint green is a very pretty color! So for now when I want to go to Hawaii I just come into my beach room♡♡ I thought it was a good idea to have a beach room:)
Larry,
Have you looked at Vault? They do it via the mail.
Larry W you have CVS right in your city and they are on the approved Hawaii Travel testing list.