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Unblievable! The passport needs to be in place!
It is a fact that this vaccine (which is legally not a vaccine at all – it is an experimental gene therapy) – is NOT shown to stop you from getting covid – or ‘spreadin’ covid….
These are not my opinions. do your own research.
also as an FYI – another fact – more people have already died of the covid injection in the last three months (almost two thousand now) than the entire last decade…..
I wish you all well.
WPC – I have constantly been “doing my own research” and fact checking. Here is March 29, 2021 news from the Director of CDC: businessinsider.com/cdc-director-data-vaccinated-people-do-not-carry-covid-19-2021-3.
If these tested vaccinated people do not carry the virus, how exactly, in your learned scientific opinion, can they transmit a virus they are not carrying?
You said: “It is a fact that this vaccine (which is legally not a vaccine at all – it is an experimental gene therapy) – is NOT shown to stop you from getting covid – or ‘spreadin’ covid….”
You could have stopped at “It is a fact”. The mRNA vaccine (Pfizer/Bion/Moderna) is NOT a gene therapy. It has nothing to do with DNA. The M(messenger)RNA is a chemical that, in this case, detects the spike protein on the virus and alerts our natural antibodies of the invader so that said antibodies can be dispatched and targeted to the spike protein. mRNA technology has been around for at least three decades and applied to rabies, influenza, cytomegalovirus, and Zika
Also, the jury is still out on whether the vaccine prevents infections, though a study of ~4,000 medical professionals vaccinated did discover that the prevention rate was effective for 80% after the first jab, rising to 90% after the second. The CDC study comes weeks after real-world data from Israel suggested that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was 94% effective in preventing asymptomatic infections.
Not sure what you meant about “more people died…than the entire last decade”, but here’s the data from the CDC:
You may have been relying on a report from The Epoch Times or Newsweek, but it is false to say that COVID vaccines have caused 966 deaths, because the VAERS database is not designed to give this information. For example, in the dataset published by The Epoch Times, one of the people who died after getting a vaccine had also been injured in a car crash between getting the jab and the date of their death, but the case was still included in the dataset.
Note that even your numbers (“almost 2,000) are off by half, even if you believe the 966 number. That, by the way, is .001% of the 90 million doses administered. 965 estimated deaths compared with ~550,000 confirmed deaths? Hmmm.
I have done extensive research on this and I would love to see your sources for the supposed 2000 that have died from the injection. I will wait. anxiously because well its simply not true.
Thank you, we booked out flight for May 16-26. Hoping that Hawaii will let us in with our fully vaccinated card not going through pre-test requirements.
Dear Thelma, I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year & I’m getting very excited!! I can’t wait ♡♡ I’m also waiting on the vaccine passport. I’m a teacher & I’m fully vaccinated now.
Waiting for vaccine passport!
Please by May1st!
Thank you
I have a lot of time for the Lt Governor. As a medical man he makes a lot more sense than the professional politicians. My concern is that all discussions so far focus solely on US residents. There is no mention of how Foreign nationals will be accommodated if at all. The current Testing requirement is onerous as it often requires a break of journey for 2-3 days if one’s airline does not have a rapid test provision at the airport of connection. Given that Hawaii is a very expensive choice from Europe and indeed Asia and thus attracts visitors who spend appreciably more in hospitality, shopping and ancillary tourist businesses, it might make sense for the State to a) pick a testing partner or so in the UK and Europe as has been done in Japan and perhaps accommodate the vaccine procedures too. The yellow fever booklets which record all travel mandated vaccinations are being used for this purpose, the UK issues a vaccination card which is primarily a reminder but lists vaccine type, manufacturer, batch, date of inoculation and by whom almost identical to the CDC one. Additionally for travel one can obtain a letter from the primary care physician giving the vaccination details. It would be a mistake to look for a US only system or indeed one that only key states like California adopt based on %age of visitors.
what about people that have been vacinnated back in February- we travel in June??
There is uncertainty about the level of protection and when it starts to decline. Several countries have chosen 3 months as a first guess. I am in the UK at present, Here they started vaccinations early in 2021 and the most vulnerable are being lined up for boosters in October. What is unclear at present is whether this is primarily to renew protection or whether it is to include protection from the plethora of new strains that are being discovered in the UK, Brazil, South Africa, California etc etc. The major issue here is that the experts are in new territory and using mRNA technology is not something with years of track record. If you received your second shot in February as a first responder or vulnerable person, you might want to talk to your primary care physician about boosters and what the plans are for the vaccine that you received.
We are with you Sean. Heading to Key West for 2 weeks! We went to Maui for 22 years straight. Not going to deal with all the BS with trying to get to Maui this year. To be honest I don’t think the Hawaiians want the tourists back. We have so many beautiful beaches on the East coast and gulf coasts to visit. We can Get on a plane and not worry about any COVID tests being back in time before traveling.
What few out West know is Florida’s beaches, especially the Gulf Coast, are absolutely amazing. Pristine beaches, clear blue water, marine life, as well as a ton of tropical birds.
No tourist price gouging, and no fake smiles pretending to be ” Aloha”. Also, in today’s world, nobody yelling at you for standing up with a beer in your hand vs. sitting down 6″ lower on a stool.
West coasters and out here have lost their minds with the masks. They work marginally well, but they’re not stopping anything 100%. If they did, our 95% mask rate would have had our cases at zero long ago.
With all due respect. Have fun in covid filled mask free environment of Florida and STOP commenting on a Hawaii site, where most of us are willing to do what we need to do to respect not only the Hawaiian islands but the people! Don’t ever come back! Those of us who are willing to make a tiny sacrifice to visit Hawaii thank you for staying away and allowing some of us who don’t see the Hawaiians as our slaves to do our bidding. I am so sick and tired of you naysayers spreading your BS all over this forum.
Don’t like the rules stay away but stop bitching about it here!
We are going in June, just confirmed flights etc and we are MORE than willing to do what ever it takes to be there.
I never understand why you all are here anyway.
In true fashion, why don’t you write a strongly worded email to the BeatofHawaii people and attempt to cancel me… After all, different opinions are no longer welcome. And since I live in Hawaii, and have for a long time, commenting on a Hawaii site seems kind of appropriate.
its not that opinions are not welcome nor valid here. You seem to be a troll that as of yet I have to see one comment than you might be planning a trip to Hawaii so why exactly are you here besides to troll people? Nah BOH does a great job and its up to them to decide who should and should not post. You seem to think you can post any BS you want and that no one should even try to challenge your right wing talking points. Sorry aint happening.
PS its you not anyone else getting personal
Great, Sean. YOu live in HI? So you plan to enter the wild west of FL where anti-mask and anti-vaccine government runs wild and then return HERE to our HI home. Maybe take a staycation on your own island here instead, and do more to protect all residents that way.
enjoy showing your proof of vaccination everywhere you go out here and on the West Coast.
Follow Cuomo’s lead. That sounds like a great idea, he is doing so well these days.
I’ll be sipping drinks on the beach in Florida, maskless. Free to do as I please like we should be.
Maui- 13% unemployment. I’m gonna have a good laugh at the impending economic doom coming for the people out here, and those that support this crap.
Aloha Sean. To be consistent, wouldn’t it be logical to withhold expensive treatment for those who believe that the pandemic is a “bunch of crap”?
Not saying the virus is fake etc.. But the overreach is ridiculous.
Take for example the groups of people who are most susceptible to Covid.. The elderly, or older aged with comorbidities… Most, and soon all will have the vaccine available to them soon. They are theoretically “protected” from getting seriously ill. Great.
Kids and younger, healthy adults have very slight repercussions from Covid. Most hardly know they have it. And in the case of kids, the flu is more deadly.. (or if y’all remember H1N1 back in 2009, that virus attacked primarily kids and teenagers, yet no gov’t overreach or vaccines for kids)
Preliminary studies suggest that it is entirely possible to still catch “the Vid” even with the vaccine. Just won’t have serious consequences.
Here is the point of my book here:
If the older aged group is protected from DEATH, younger healthy group is 99.9997% unlikely to incur DEATH, and the vaccine doesn’t prevent spread like we think, what does a passport do for us? All age groups are basically protected from DEATH through either vaccines, or age and health.
And before the usual crowd attacks the “flu” comment…. it is a statistical fact the flu kills more kids than Covid. And it is also a statistical fact that H1N1 killed more kids and teens than Covid.
@sean,
See, this is the reason that “I did my own research” just doens’t work. I leave it up to people with letters like MD, MPH, and the like, after their name to process all the infomration, and make public health recommendations. One good place for that to be communicated to us is the websites from places like, Johns Hopkins, and our local public heath department, etc. So, if you look at those sources for understanding, you’ll see things like hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-and-covid-19-younger-adults-are-at-risk-too That explains why the fact that just because youg people don’t get AS sick doesn’t mean that they can’t be, and actually ARE, vectors for the spread of a highly contagious virus. But setting all that aside, the public health experts and the goverment of the state of Hawaii has decided on certain measure to try and protect it’s residents from illness and death. You are free to agree or disagree, and you are certainly free to take your vacation dollars elsewhere. However, I think that trying to convince other people that the measures that the state of Hawai have put into place are “wrong”, well, until you have MD, MPH after your name, I’m sorry, but I’m just not interested in your opinions, and I think that you do a diservice to the people of Hawaii by making your “opinions” known.
In that case, the CDC says travel should be avoided, so does that make all the vacationers who are happy about the passport and adhere to CDC guidelines, hypocrites?
Paul C. wants to come here in June, maybe in June the CDC will still ask people to avoid travel? Should he cancel?
Also, for every pound a passenger weighs, that is that much more fuel a airplane burns per minute. That much more CO2 released into the air. For all the Global Warming West Coasters who want everything Green, maybe they shouldn’t travel seeing how they are increasing carbon emissions.
This is for Hawaii and its pretty obvious your just here as a troll. I am coming regardless so suck it up butter cup.
So, that means if you contract Covid and need treatment, to be consistent with your philosophy, you will pay for your own treatment?
You said: Kids and younger, healthy adults have very slight repercussions from Covid. Most hardly know they have it. And in the case of kids, the flu is more deadly.
From WebMd: “The good news is that the rates of hospitalization, ICU admission and need for mechanical ventilation were not statistically worse than for young people with the flu,” said Grosso, who directs pediatrics at Huntington Hospital in Huntington, N.Y.” So, you are correct that CV-19 and the common flu are equal in effects on children, but flu is more deadly? Hmm.
Your post seems to overlook more than 500,000 U.S. deaths (most likely and under count). It seems to overlook the fact that the U.S. leads the world in infections, deaths, and hospitalizations. It doesn’t mention that CV-19 is now the third leading cause of death behind heart disease and cancer. You seem to also miss the unknowns of long-term health effects from the previously infected.
Your “move on” tone belies the fact that we are now in the midst of a new surge in at least 27 states.
I hate to clog this site with off-topic comments, but hubris needs a check.
overreach. Ok really? Its well within the purview of not only the states but the nation to look out for and protect its citizens. In fact one could argue this is one of the few things that is Precisely why we have government. I know you think that we should just fling all the doors wide open so you can exercise your privilege. Good look in Florida. The place is blowing up with new covid cases I sincerely hope you are not one of them. That being said Enjoy Covid filled Florida wo your mask and with all due respect choose a different forum to complain in. Those of us here are actually interested in news from Hawaii and what we need to do to be able to go visit and enjoy the atmosphere.
NY, NJ, MI.. They are blowing up with Covid…
TX and FL are either remaining level, or in TX’s case have reduced greatly over the last 3 weeks. Same with MS.
cooked numbers for your states. Nice try though.
Let’s look at yesterday’s numbers. In terms of total new cases yesterday, New York, indeed, leads the list. Followed by Michigan, Florida, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and TEXAS at #6. My guess is that based on what we have seen in Floria with spring break, their numbers are about to go WAY up. Bottom line is that if you listen to the experts and follow the science, that “opening up” too quickly (like Texas, Florida,, and other red states) isn’t a good idea. That DOESN’T mean keeping everything completely locked down is a good idea either. But the most important thing is that we continue to wear our masks, social distance, and wash our hands. So, those states dropping their mask mandates are flying against the science, and, I suspect, will pay a price.
We are doing great in most of Texas. We live in a rural area and haven’t worn masks in months. The larger cities may still require masks in some cases but if you’ve ever been to Texas, you would know that it is very large and most of the land mass is rural and having no issues with COVID. I have also visited Hawaii and will be going again in a few weeks. I have every intention of following the guidelines that are set. It is important to remember that a state as large as Texas can not be compared to the Islands of Hawaii.
Not sure about expensive medical treatment?
Should we withhold expensive treatment for smokers, people that live off of fast food? How about drug addicts who OD on Fentynal?
We could play that game all day. That is how silly your comment reduces the conversation to.
your comment is the silly comment of the day IMHO. Smokers DO pay more as do the morbidly obese so considering this is a something that is preventable and your choosing NOT to follow the science and be vaccinated you should give up all rights to have your healthcare costs covered if you refuse the vaccine.
I thought you live on Maui! Sure sounds like you live in Florida, or why would you be rooting for residents of the island where you live to lose their jobs?
If the CDC states that vaccinated prior can still contract and spread the virus then isn’t this just special treatment for people who obey?
Yes, it is. And this is just the beginning.
exactly
lmao special treatment. NO its not giving special treatment to those who refuse to believe science and choose to protect not only themselves but those around them.
Hi,
I will be fully vaccinated in April and have a trip coming in June. Will be need to quarantine upon arrival or test before traveling into Oahu?
Thank you!
Hi Maria.
We don’t know yet. That will depend on what the state decides.
Aloha.
currently you still have to provide a negative covid test and as I understand it at least currently as long as you provide a negative test result you will not have to quarantine
Not sure how the rest of the state and country are doing it but L.A County, in addition to the paper card, is entering it into a database and you get an email from partner company Healthvana that allows you to sign up for an account with an electronic record.
This is unconstitutional and I refuse this experimental antibodies shot that is unnecessary.. there are three meds that doctors use to successfully treat covid patients with zero deaths. The truth is coming out about the fraud behind covid, masks that do not prevent it and who is behind it.
This is talked about in the Bible and it is evil.
Oh please stop! Not all of us believe in your fairy tail you can stay home
David K… you assume everyone believes in the Bible and that everyone is governed by it. That is an incorrect assumption and had no business here!
@David K
Wow. My wife is a devoted Christian and an educator. She was flipping for joy when she received her second Pfizer shot.
Geesus, this is just like the flu shot, why are you acting like such a wuss? The vaccine is highly contagious, masks work, and so far, the best medical research this country has says the vaccines work at keeping people like you and I out of the hospital with serious COVID symptoms.
If you want, feel free to go maskless and join the fools down in Texas and Florida (referring to the young ones on spring break). See you in two months, let us know if you contracted COVID and am in the hospital or not.
I meant “the virus is highly contagious…”
Thank you for the information.
We have a trip planned for July 2021. We have our first shot already done and second scheduled for mid April… they gave us a paper card .. how do we find out if we are registered on the site for safe travel??
@LYNZ, the way you phrased your question makes me think you are asking how your history of two vaccination shots are “registered on the site for safe travel.” My answer, after traveling to Oahu in December 2020 and February 2021, is: the Safe Travel Hawaii web site is CURRENTLY (3/21/202) designed to store trip information and COVID-19 test results in an account you create with your own username+password. It is not CURRENTLY designed to accept any vaccination records; we are all waiting for a future announcement whether the site will be modified to accept vaccination record information that you upload into your account. I know of no system yet announced to “register” any of your vaccination history into Safe Travel Hawaii by your vaccination provider, or by using your paper vaccination record. i hope this answers your question. Aloha!
3months for the vaccine is not realistic. I have had my 2nd shot in feb. I have reservations for maui in dec. So your telling me I need to be vaccinated again b4 I go
New York State just started digital proof of vaccination and tests. It is in effect for 30 days and then you can renew it. It’s to help open NY events showing proof of Vaccination through a NY App,it doesn’t list travel, but I don’t see why it couldn’t be used for it at some time(It’s new and just started yesterday).It was easy to do through a NY State website. Maybe Hawaii can see if something like this works for them. I now have something like a a QR code entered on the App as proof, through NY State, that I was vaccinated.
I was vaccinated in Oregon with the Pfizer variety second shot given February 21 – will the 72 hour quarantine upon arrival on Kauai still be mandatory?
Thank you Lt. Governor Josh Green for all you are doing to open Hawaii for tourism again.
I know like all state and especially Hawaii are trying to open their doors to get the economy moving again. There are 4 of us, all “vaccinated both doses”, 65 and older , have twice postponed our trip to the Islands. I have spent a considerable amount of time on Oahu, Big Island, and Kauai and have been wanting to bring my friends to experience the magic and it looks like this time, 6-31 May we will be able to make it. Thank you KHON2 News and Victoria at GoUS Hawaii for keeping us informed.
My final thought- 4 of us traveling “again, we are all both dose vaccinated,” with the trusted pre-test safe travel costing $120 each “which Hawaii does not see a penny” that will be almost $500 that will come out of our travel budget instead of having a that amount going to the Hawaiian economy. $120 time the number of daily travelers to Hawaii. Looking forward to the vaccination passport and having a nice meal down town helping supporting your economy.
Thank for listening
Pete
Dear Pete, I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year!!! I’m getting very excited ♡♡ I’m also waiting on the vaccine passport because I’m a teacher & now fully vaccinated. I’m dreaming about the day when I will be sitting on the airplane traveling to Hawaii:)
OMG!! People please read the guide lines. We all need a negative COVID test to travel Even if vaccinated, or Quarantine. Hopefully this will change as more get vaccinated. Hopefully!!
Aloha Sharon- (& all) Hopefully these rules will NOT change. Do you think the people working at these resorts want to be there risking getting the virus when they don’t know where you’ve been or if you’ve masked after your 72 hour test? Plus-you could get it traveling. Come on, would you want a bunch of strangers coming into your home hoping the rules change for them to use said home as a vacation land? Do you know how long we, the people of Hawaii (ESPECIALLY Kauai), have followed rules; stayed home, masked, social distanced, no school in session, SAVED the lives of our people? We have had ONE death for a reason, the RULES. If you’re going to travel during a global pandemic when there is still very little information on the vaccine (we are phase 3 of the trial, come on, stop the whining people, we aren’t your testing ground), then follow the rules and stop complaining and hoping they change. If you want to go on vacation with no restrictions, take your money and attitude elsewhere (Mexico is great). We know we “need” tourism (my family works in it, but definitely wants out now that they’ve experienced people not caring and yelling at them for asking visitors to just wear a mask and getting an f-you in response), but we also have made serious sacrifices to save lives. Our own people (the majority, anyway) aren’t even traveling inter-island. So, if you’re going to come here, follow the rule and be humble that you’re even being allowed in. Just because someone has come here off and on for 30 years or just once, it is still OUR HOME. This feeling has been bubbling long before Covid. Be grateful to even come and follow the rules. Mahalo!
LANI… Mahalo for making us all feel so welcome! That’s the Aloha Spirit in action!
I thought the same thing, I was thinking how rude
Michelle and Barbara…I felt the same! Chastising people who express a “hope” that things would get back to normal is NOT putting anyone in harm’s way. Have we not all said that we wish things would change? Lani, I am thankful that we have people who still have hope, and are not spreading gloom and doom. I’m betting you are too.
Lani, I hope everyone reads your post!!! I fully understand and support your position. Personally I continue to favor the PCR Test not older than 72 hours and I do not support the demands by vaccinated people. They still can contract the virus and can infect others. All the vaccine does is keep you out of the hospital if you get infected by the virus. I am pretty sure that all who got the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine need a booster shot, too.
GERHARD… It was announced today that the vaccines protect you 80%-90% from getting the virus. If you can’t get the virus, you can’t infect others! You need to keep on top of the CDC’s reporting or your posts can be providing outdated information
Barbara. You need to actually read the CDC guidance on vaccinated individuals. This from March 23:
“COVID-19 vaccines are effective at protecting you from getting SICK (my emphasis). Based on what we know about COVID-19 vaccines, people who have been fully vaccinated can start to do some things that they had stopped doing because of the pandemic.
We’re still learning how vaccines will affect the spread of COVID-19. After you’ve been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, you should keep taking precautions in public places like wearing a mask, staying 6 feet apart from others, and avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces until we know more.
James B… I’m just quoting what was on the news today, March 29, so it appears your news may be 6 days in arrears. Besides… this is a site regarding travel to Hawaii NOT (my emphasis) a debate site regarding covid vaccination!
Then Barbara, you should read your news more carefully. Indeed the new study was heartening, but there were enough qualifiers (unsure about variants, transmission between vaxed people, etc.) to clog a vacuum cleaner. Social distance, avoid crowds, masks were still indicated. Also this was a single study of medical professionals.
oh, if you want to keep ones comments to travel, then it seems curious that you brought up the partial truth post about the study.
Also unvaccinated people are 99.98% survival rate if they contact the virus. People get sick all the time and will for the rest of time.
Absolutely unproven. This is just an attempt by the State to get people vaccinated, esp. the hesitant ones.
Gerhard, not sure where your information is coming from on the vaccines and if you have a medical background. I’m including a link with good information about how the vaccines work.
It is a personal choice whether you want to get a vaccine or not, but it is also important that people understand how the vaccines work.
healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20210326/messenger-rna-vaccines-lower-risk-for-asymptomatic-infection-study-finds
Mahalo
Thank you for explaining what the people of Kaua’i feel. People that don’t wear a mask or wear it on their chin need to stay home or as you said go to Mexico where anything goes and the poor workers there pay the price. Keep Kaua’i and the Hawaiian Islands safe.
@Lani.
When we visit Hawaii, or anywhere for that matter, we are guests. We teach our kids the same since we have been visiting for years now since they were young.
It just irks me that people can be so selfish, ignorant or love to be so anti-establishment, that they feel they have the right to endanger others. These people should just stay home and leave the rest of us alone.
See you guys very soon ! Aloha
I could not agree more! See you soon Aloha!
As long as Common Pass or other vaccines passports doesn’t become overly complicated, I think it will work.
Aloha Guys
Thank you for the alerts on Alaska quitting the Oakland airport. I was able to change to San Jose. Also thank you for the rental car story. I usually wait until my trip is closer, but after your alert, I decided to book it right away. I am avidly following the vaccination passport with you because we got the J&J vaccine. It will be over 3 months when we go on our trip…. Mahalo
Hi Mary.
Good to hear from you and glad you were able to switch over to SJC.
Aloha.
Dear Mary, I’m also waiting for the vaccine passport & I’m a teacher so I’m fully vaccinated. I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year! I’m getting very excited ♡♡♡ I can’t wait!!:)
So they don’t even know how often people need a vaccine. One official said it might be once a year. So they want us to have to time it so we get it three months before going to Hawaii?
Dear Debra, we will just have to wait until the vaccine passport is out & what it all includes.
Once again, more uncertainties than answers. I still do not understand what “science” the state is following that says the shots are not effective longer than 3 months. In my opinion, requiring people to be tested within 72 hours or risk quarantine after having had the 2 doses of vaccine is discouraging anyone who plans to travel later in the year from getting the shots now…which in essence defeats the goal of getting this virus under control and our lives back to normal. All we are hearing in these posts are what Lt. Green wants and hopes to do, yet when has anything he has proposed regarding the Covid lockdown actually been put in to place? Until he and the Gov. get on the same page and take control over the state (including the individual counties) this whole issue will continue to get nothing but worse.
Vaccination within three months of travel? That is so frustrating for me as I was vaccinated in February and am planning a trip in June.
There is no way I’m showing “my papers“. No vaccine passport for me. This is just one more step to control the population.
Yeah, don’t show your driver’s license at the airport check-in either! I bet you don’t think you should show an ID to vote.
Hard yes on this.
Hi Andy M
You are correct. I think people are reading the wrong books. There is more going on than Covid.
I might suggest “The Gulag Archipelago” by Solzhenitsyn.
Good background read. Will get you closer to the truth.
Thanks everyone.
So you probably travel within 3 months of your vaccination!? That speaks volumes about a vaccine that only has a 90 day effectiveness and THAT’S what you’re going to use as your key to getting into Hawaii!? Just how damnstupid does the governor and LG think everyone is? Oh wait, they have demonstrated that for over a year already! Funny how at no time did Hawaii ever worry about travelers during flu season which is just as contagious even with a vaccine.
My husband is really set on visiting Kauai this summer. Is 2021 realistic, or would 2021 be better – because of all the covid restrictions & uncertainties?
I’m thankful for your newsletters. Hawaii can’t seem to figure travel. It’s frustrating.
Just trying to convince myself that it’s worth the hassle & expense,
Thanks!
Hi Kim.
It sure looks like everything is aligning for it to be a great summer for visitors here. That barring anything unforeseen.
Aloha.
Dear Kim, I’m waiting for the vaccine passport myself! I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year! I’m getting very excited!!♡♡ Personally I’m waiting for the passport because for my that would be too much stress on my worrying about getting my test result back in time. I will only be able to visit Hawaii for a week. Plus too I’m waiting on my travel partner to save $$.
We are traveling to Honolulu 4/5/21 and then leaving 4/9/21 about noon for Kauai, and will be on Kauai for 7 days. We have been vaccinated (2X Pfiser) and will have met Hawaii Safe Travels testing to get to Honolulu. I have heard some requirements will be changing again April 5 for Kauai as they re-join Safe Travels.
Will we need to have another COVID-19 test after 3 days in Honolulu and within 3 days of traveling inter-island to Kauai? And, if so, will we need the NAAT test or will a rapid test suffice?
Yes, you will need to be tested by one of the trusted partners before coming to Kauai. The Kidney Foundation has a testing site at the Honolulu Airport and in Waikiki. I would strongly suggest that you make an appointment. Results have been coming back within 6 hours but no guarantee.
Thanks !!
Hawaii is moving towards creating a third world country, not part of the USA with the regs they are trying to impose. With the hassles why does anyone go now? And going in th e future, for me at least may be put off for a long time. Sad as we used to visit every couple of years.
Please give us ALL a break and never come to Hawaii again! We STOLE this island paradise from the Hawaiians maybe we should give it back
Paul C… And totally destroy the Hawaiian economy which is still at this point in time tourist dependent. A bit short sighted it seems to me.
@Bob B. If our health officials outlines protocols to keep others safe, I am all for it. Hawaii has made the choice to do what it has to keep its people safe – ok by me. Vaccine passport, testing, PIA for sure, but not too hard to do either to enjoy the Islands, IMO.
Keep me updated if
The vaccine passport for mainland travel starts may 15
Thank you
What’s written here is no different than what was written in the last 2-3 BOH articles on the topic of vaccination. “If Lt Gov Grenn gets his way?” Is this a kids game? Waiting for CDC “guidelines” is waiting for hell to freeze over; CDC is never going to state that there’s 100% certainty a vaccinated person cannot transmit. What IS certainis a vaccinated person is the closest thing to 100% “safe” as anyone can get. I know BOH just wants to keep communication lines open, but we dont want to hear “may do this, may do that.” Just tell us when its finalized and concrete. Thanks!
Hi Tracy.
There were many changes since we last wrote about this. These include progress and issues that have arisen with both the proposed passports and with the paper certificates, the federal government’s role in vaccination travel and how that may work, and the state’s contingency planning with and without passports.
Aloha.
It still remains Hawaii “may” do this and then they “may” do that. While the verbiage in these posts may be different, the overall message is still the same. Hawaii cannot move forward on something so simple: If you can show you’ve been fully vaccinated, you can bypass the pre-travel testing. Period. Does Hawaii really think there will be folks who try and “forge” the vaccination cards? C’mon now …
Hi Tracy.
https://blog.checkpoint.com/2021/03/22/a-passport-to-freedom-fake-covid-19-test-results-and-vaccination-certificates-offered-on-darknet-and-hacking-forums/.
Aloha.
NO we will all be vaccinated when we come in June. I believe this vaccine passport to be a good thing. Anyone without should have to stay at home.
So if one is unable to take C19 vaccines, they are not allowed to travel? A bit harsh, Paul
I hope that the CDC can prove that the vaccine’s ability to prevent Covid will be longer than three months.
I’m an essential /emergency worker for a city government; in my work group we had two people contract Covid. Various others within our corporate yard had coronavirus, also. I received my first shot in early March with the second at the end of the month.
My family and I had cancelled our Oahu vacation from last year and rescheduled to the end of November of this year.
So if there is a requirement that vaccination be within three months of travel, would my family and I have to get the shots again in August?
Thanks for all the info that you give, BOH is my “go-to” for info on the islands.
Hi Reg
Thanks. We appreciate your many comments. It seems hard to imagine CDC will say only 3 months for validity. That’s a key sticking point right now. Everyone will be in the same mess and we’ll all be back to testing. At least pre-clearance is becoming standard to simplify the travel process.
Aloha.
Mahalo for the latest news! We are getting excited for our Maui trip. We’ll be fully vaccinated on April 6, with a departure date of April 22. Sadly, we’ll still need our pre-test from Walgreens (we live in NJ) ahead of time because it appears that whatever happens with these Vaccination Passes, it won’t happen until May, when we are back home.
Hi Steve.
You’re right about it not being in time for your trip, unfortunately. Have a great time on Maui!
Aloha.
OMG People. Vaccination passports, really? This is the purest form of ridiculing and marking people. What’s next? There is e huge difference in leading cause of death for white and black people, hypertension and diabetes caused by poor diets for the latter group (I’m black so I know). Will there be a passport to enter Popeyes Fried Chicken because there is a risk it will drain the healthcare resources? This is going nowhere people, wake up!
The majority of people getting Covid experience NO symptoms, NADA. Only 0.1% dies, but they would have died anyway in 6 months or less. If you are old or have health risks, get vaccinated. But leave the rest of the 98% live in peace. People are getting vaccinated by the millions, but expensive testing, masks and social distancing is still there.
Give me a break, vaccination passports. Pff.
Donald, agree with you 100%.
I refuse to be controlled by any Government as to where I can or can’t go because of a vaccination/vac passport. I am glad I got to see Maui in 2015. I will never return as long as this ridiculous vaccination passport is the requirement and i know of many like me. Good luck Hawaii.
ahahahahahahaha
Do you have a drivers license? A medical card? DO you use any government for anything? You refuse to be controlled. OK! Well guess what you may have to just stay home forever because we the people IE our government have set rules in place to continue to be a civilized society. Do you drive drunk? I am hoping not but thats a rule. Do you wear a seat belt?
Freedom of movement within and between states is Constitutionally protected.
Couldn’t have said it better, Paul. These Libertarians who think that there shouldn’t be any rules about anything are ridiculous.
BTW, the reason that the CDC said 3 months a few months ago was that was all of the time they had to check the general population. Now that people have had the vaccine for longer expect new numbers from the CDC. Also, the pharma companies are saying 1-3 years, but since it’s not been around that long, that a guess on their part.
Personally, I’m hoping to get it in the next few weeks and have a trip to the Big Island planned for August, so I’m hoping all this gets worked out. The key here is that once I’m vaccinated, I’ll feel safe to travel, irrespective of the rules, which I’ll simply obey, wh at ever they are at the time.
Precisely! If you feel you are too entitled to follow rules and guidelines,stay home!! We don’t need you on Kauai!
Hello Danielle, the vaccine isn’t a requirement to travel to Hawaii. It is the person’s choice to be vaccinated. Hawaii will still have testing & quarantine as an option for those who don’t get vaccinated.
ANY type of so called ‘health passport” is literally medical fascism. unless we as a collective absolutely reject this – we are setting a dangerous precedent. What next – the need to share our private medical records with airlines? I don’t think so. THINK about this – really deeply think about this….
LOL do you use a passport if you travel internationally? Does it give anyone any personal information other than the basics? NO If you have a vaccine passport all that will indicate is that you are indeed vaccinated. That is not an invasion of your personal information in any way. Nor is it fascist communist or any other thing you want to attach to it. Do you want to get on a plane with someone sitting next to you that is contagious? I dont.
you are still contagious even though you are vaccinated!!!
Says who?
Gerhard
More laws are going to shut down Hawaii’s island vacation business if the local government continues to issue fake rules and regulations to stifle economic growth. There are many people who refuse to be injected with the experimental human genome altering mRNA injections.
Exactly correct. I have seen too much on the side affects in the VAERS data as well as deaths. I have also seen videos of people showing such evidence. I believe we will see more by Fall of this year. This vaccine is NOT FDA approved, says it on their own web pages but was released for emergency use. We are the guinea pigs, no thank you.
Agree. I have said all along that this is a lab experiment and I decline to participate.
That’s not completely true. While an mRNA vaccine has never been on the market anywhere in the world, mRNA vaccines have been tested in humans before, for at least four infectious diseases: rabies, influenza, cytomegalovirus, and Zika.
Please have your opinions and decisions based on what you believe, but please stop inventing opinions as facts. There is a difference
Check it out.
cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mRNA.html
@Lyn n H
So, I take it you do not use a smartphone and any free app?
The vaccines do not alter your DNA. You know what DOES alter your DNA? Covid-19.
This science can be confusing. Look at the RNA/DNA difference this way. DNA determines what characteristics you were born with (blue eyes). RNA is a chemical that carries instructions about how your body reacts to these m (messenger)RNA “messengers”. The Pfizer and Moderna versions target the spike protein on the surface of the virus particles sending the message to natural antibodies that this is the invader to neutralize.
If you are unsure, you can always choose J&J. That traditional method inserts a dead virus that alerts your antibodies, but poses no risk at inoculation, since the virus is moribund.
Hi, our family of eleven(11) has a trip planned to Maui from June 11-25th. We are greatly concerned that one or some of us will not get our Covid test results back in time for us to travel. 72 hours does not seem like a lot of time, especially since, at this point in time, the approved testing sites will not guarantee results by the time of our flight. All 11 of us are on the same American non-stop flight from Phx. to Maui. What would we do, should that happen?!? (I’m feeling pretty stressed out about it all!)
Vault works very well. I have used it with great success multiple times
I would suggest Vault . I have used it multiple times. You can put several tests in the return envelope. Also mark the envelope with Covid Stat (multiple places) and put your departure date and time on the outside of the UPS envelope and the inside envelope. I bump up departure time a little on the envelope an hour or two just to be safe . When they first started back in October they had some kinks to work out, but now their turn around is much quicker than 72 hours . Good luck
JERI M… Thanks for the reassurance on Vault. Our plan is to use them and in case they don’t return in time, we have Rapid Test appointments at our departure airport the day before we leave. We can do them the courtesy of cancelling if Vault comes through. (At one point Xprescheck’s phone numbers weren’t answered nor could you leave a message!). ONE IMPORTANT THING… If you are Medicare, state that you are not or Vault will not test you.
We used Vault last November, and had no problems, despite our lab work being done on election day. Wyoming continues to pay for Vault tests out of CARES $$, so we recently ordered up a couple more, and they are sitting on a counter top for next Hawaii travel if vaccinations still not good enough to bypass quarantine. Wyoming is vaccinating down to age 50, and I believe going to open up to general public soon. Seems they are not getting enough people interested or they have more vaccines than needed for small population? IDK but all manner of available appointments on the web page.
FWIW, we were not asked if we were on Medicare when ordering the Vault tests, either time. Perhaps depends on what state you live in, but that doesn’t make sense to me, Medicare being a federal thing. Insurance did not matter, either.
David B… All I know is repeatedly Vault stated they could not offer a test in our state. Someone posted here to just say “no” to Medicare and it worked. Has mugging TLC do with our state but Medicare regulations on getting paid. That was a few months ago so perhaps they changed their questions.
How about “nothing to do with our state”! No glasses on plus small keyboard on phone plus one Manhattan equals booboos!
My husband and I are receiving our second shot in the next few weeks. Our girls will have to do a test. We are to vacation the middle of June. Looking at testing sites for our girls we are looking at Walgreens test. Is this a good one?
Aloha
Thank you, Jeri, I have never heard of Vault! I will research it!
Kandy R…. Vault was one of the first Trusted Partners and is one of the testing labs a number of states have now made available to their citizens FOR FREE! So check with your state and see if that is available for you. In our state, no reason is needed to order a test. Just make sure you follow the directions on the packaging and on this site – Noting on the return packaging that the test(s) is for travel to Hawaii will give it preferential treatment in turn around. (Someone may have mentioned that but I’m too lazy to look!)
KANDY R… Since you’ve never heard of Vault, apologies for not explaining it. You can order you kit on line at any time. Make sure to place a different order for each person as their test will be associated with an email. When you are ready, you schedule a “meeting” with their rep and they will call you via Zoom and watch as you do the swab test. That keeps the test from being inappropriately used. Then you send it back in the packaging they have sent you. Make sure you tell the rep it is for travel to Hawaii and they will give you special instructions on what to put on the package so it will be expedited.
I have twice successfully used Vault Health to travel Sacramento to Oahu with Thursday departures each time. I was originally scheduled to leave on Tuesdays for both trips but discovered Vault Health could not provide lab results within Hawaii’s 72-hour window, so I changed my departures to Thursday.
I sampled on Monday mornings and had results by Tuesday afternoon on the first trip and by late Wednesday evening on the second trip (the freeze that shut down the central U.S. mainland a couple of weeks ago disrupted the UPS deliveries to New Jersey on the second trip).
Vault is not a good choice if your final mainland-to-Hawaii flight departs on a Monday or Tuesday, because UPS, Vault’s Next Day Air service to their New Jersey lab, does not operate on Sundays. Vault Health warns about this on their website.
Good News, Bad News… Good News = You can make appointments months in advance (I made ours for July) at Xprescheck at the Phoenix Airport. Appointments every 1/2 hour. Bad News = If you need Rapid Testing (i.e., leave there with paperwork in hand!), the cost is $200 per person. Caveats = You didn’t indicate where home was and it could mean spending an extra day in Phoenix. Also, at one point, they were only open 5 days a week but you can check on their website. Xprescheck.com.
One option is for those who do not get the tests back time, just go and do the quarantine in Hawaii with the rest of the group? Unsure if that is acceptable for you or not.
Thanks for your response, JWI. From what I understand, “quarantine” in HI means staying at a location other than the place you have booked to stay…and possibly at one’s own expense). I could be wrong, but that is what I was told. Has anyone heard anything definitive about that?
Kandy R… First, the quarantine requirement will be lifted as of April 5, 2021 and at that time going forward, the only requirement will be the no-more-than-72-hour in advance negative test. Second, “quarantine” meant staying at a “resort bubble” location which actually could be where you are staying. (We stay at the Marriott Kauai Beach Club on Kauai and that is/was a “resort bubble”.) But that is all old news at this point unless things change yet again.
Quarantine in Hawaii (if you do not have a residence here) means 10 full days locked in a hotel room at your own expense with no services, and you better have suitcase full of food or you will need to have same delivered at expensive prices. You must go straight from airport to the hotel at which you are being locked in a room.
I don’t see how this is a “reasonable” alternative for someone going on two week vacation. If you want to be locked in a room for ten days, you can do that in the comfort of your own home.
I don’t know the make up of your 11 family members, but anyone not getting their negative results from an approved test provider w/i 72 hours, plus the QR code, etc., should stay behind.
If you have an American Family Care Urgent Care near you, some of the locations offer a rapid test. We located one about 90 minutes from us but it was worth the drive to get the results 72 hours ahead of time and it was also covered by insuance. My husband tested positive with no symptoms and we were glad that we found out days before our travel with time to reschedule easily. They aren’t located in every state but I wanted to let everyone know that some locations offer the rapid test if there are any within driving distance. You do have to call to ask if they offer the rapid test and schedule an appointment.
K L… I just checked and Walgreens will still only allow you to make an appointment 48 hours in advance (and I checked both our area and PHoenix) so even if Walgreens does offer Rapid Test in your area, you are praying that you can get an appointment on one of those two days. They do seem to be numerous appointments available but it isn’t travel season yet.
Go to Walgreens.com Look for a location with a RED DOT. They guarantee 24 hour results. I have used them twice and had my negative results within 33 minutes the first time and 2 hours the second time. Trust me it works, and it is FREE!!!!
K L… Absolutely correct but don’t depend on it!!! There isn’t a single Red Dot in our entire state!
We went to Walgreens. Sunday was a blizzard that shut everything down so we went Monday for a Wednesday flight. Had 2 tests back in 2 hours, the other in 4 hours. Not sure if I will get a bill but wasn’t charged there. Pretty easy if you have one nearby that offers the rapid test.
ERIN W… That’s the key “near you”!!! We have to drive 7 hours to find one!
I just pulled up the Walgreens sites in Phoenix. There are at least 8 of them that do the rapid tests that are approved by Hawaii Safe Travels. My wife and I have been to Hawaii 5 times sense Octobers opening and have used them the without issue.
TREY B… Boggles the mind that there are 8 Rapid Test Walgreens in Phoenix but not one in the entire state of New Mexico! I know we don’t like Texans but we do love Arizona!
Dear Kandy,I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year! I’m getting very excited! !♡♡ I’m waiting on the vaccine passport because I’m a teacher & fully vaccinated. Another reason why I’m waiting is because I don’t want to be in your situation being stressed out about the test results coming back in time.
You can travel with a negative rapid test as long as it’s the correct test from a trusted partner.
Aloha, Hawaii resident here . Are they seriously only considering a 3 month window after vaccination? We just got our JJ vaccine this week, so unless we take a trip off the island before the later part of June, we are back to pre-travel testing . That makes no sense. Hopefully this window gets changed to a year . Ugh! I love my island life, but with that said, I am ready to spread my wings a bit.
Mahalo BOH
Hi Jeri.
We don’t think 3 months will be the recommendation, but that is awaiting CDC guidance from everything we know, and per the governor.
Aloha.
How do we know what Hawaii considers an “essential” worker? I’m a pharmacist and on the front lines as well received both vaccinations months ago.
We have a group of 9 with accommodations booked on a fully refundable basis in August on Kauai and the Big Island, and all have been or will be vaccinated – but without some clarity around the 3 month issue, can’t see booking flights from different parts of the mainland. Hopefully with all adults being eligible by May 1st, there will be more definitive guidance soon. Everything from the vaccine manufacturers indicates a high degree of confidence that at least six months’ protection will be afforded against at least the original strain.
Bill, the worst-case scenario is that you will need to test before you go. Not a terrible heavy lift in my opinion. But you’ll still be safe from gett terribly ill because you’ve been vaccinated.
Dear Jeri, I’m planning my life long dream vacation trip to Oahu next year! !!♡♡ I’m getting very excited ♡♡ My Grandfather was in the Navy & he survived Pearl Harbor. I’ve always wanted to go to PH to pay my respects!I’m waiting on the vaccine passport because I’m a teacher & fully vaccinated now. I’m going to be the best & most respectable visitor to come to Hawaii! I already gave my itinerary completed & now I’m starting my hotel research. Aloha, Andrea:) God bless & stay safe & healthy!