40 thoughts on “Have Ego-Driven Instagrammers Ruined Hawaii?”
Mike S
I totally understand being fed up with entitled tourists, being from Montana we get a ton of them at Yellowstone. But what exactly do you mean when they say respectful tourists? We have been to Hawaii 5 times and Love it, the land, people, and culture. With every visit that love and respect grows. I feel that you all should get together and do a video of the “does and don’ts”, give some cultural history and explain to the tourists who don’t know anything, what Aloha means. And make every airline play it on the flight over, you are stuck on that plane for hours. Educate the morons who don’t know how to be a respectful tourists and frankly wouldn’t be one no matter where they are going. Couldn’t hurt.
In previous posts What surprised me was the “Locals” touting that this is the Age Group/Generation that they prefer as Tourists. I immediately challenged this with Warnings. This type of Juvenile behavior should Never be encouraged or explained away, it Should Be Challenged and result in Arrest, Fines and Jail. Scour the internet and issue Summons and, or,Arrest Warrants. They won’t come back! Treat them As Adults and the Responsibilities that come with it. Enforcement Must be a part of the Solution, when Costly Fines are issued it will dissuade others. If someone is injured, or dies, Bill the Person Family or Estate for Associated Costs! Make it Painfully Clear, “None of Your BS is Wanted Here! Enough Excusing Bad and Illegal Behaviors.
Agree 100%. The more severe the punishment, the more of a deterrent it will be. The price to be paid must be high enough to truly change people’s behavior.
Think about how clean, safe and beautiful Japan is. Some of the main reasons are – they’ve never allowed outside influences to take hold in any meaningful way throughout the country, they do not tolerate disrespectful behavior, from birth, children are taught respect for others, one’s surroundings, etc. Some rush to call them a homogeneous society, but most other countries look at the behavior of their own citizens and think “This is why we can’t have nice things” – when was the last time you read about a Japanese citizen defacing a historical site? It all starts with the parents.
Those parroting the tired “ugly American” line must not get out much. Growing up on multiple islands, I personally witnessed hundreds, if not thousands of incidents of ridiculous behavior by . . . wait for it . . . non-Americans over the years. Europeans (who may be visually mistaken for Americans) can be particularly arrogant and disrespectful.
Read the news of the world once in a while, and you will see countless examples of non-Americans behaving in truly appalling ways across the globe (there are reasons why Japan has had to make many “cultural adjustments” regarding Chinese people arriving by the busload at historical sites).
Unfortunately, there is plenty of blame to go around, so don’t try to heap it all onto Americans.
What you have said is the truth, however, Americans do hold the record for really pushing the edge too far. Believing that they’ll be the next YouTube sensation and derive riches or attention they manage to Achieve the “Dumd Struck” Award even if they die. It’s the way many of Them were raised and allowed to do what they want without restrictions, restraints or any real consistent punishment. At “Supposed” adulthood they’re released upon society, why should We suffer their childish antics just because their parents did?
It absolutely comes from how they were raised, and much responsibility falls on the parents (though at “adulthood”, one must take responsibility for one’s own actions). This is a direct result of the soft, “participation trophy”, entitled, zero-discipline style of parenting. Has nothing to do with “boomers” ranting, and everything to do with young adults being released into the world without the proper social skills/respect for people, places and things.
The chase for that next dopamine “hit” via likes on Instagram, TikTok, etc. exposes the shallow, “me first” mentality that is driving this behavior.
Robert take a chill pill bro. Seriously. The best most attentive parent can turn out the most idiotic kids. A terrible parent the child can turn out responsible and good. Your comments are ridiculous broad brush of all.
“This is a direct result of the soft, “participation trophy”, entitled, zero-discipline style of parenting.” Bababab BS Those parents Buy the trophy for their spoiled kids. You seem to think its ok to point out losers vs winners.
I have seen all ages acting like idiots. Yes some boomers feel their money entitles them to act like morons.
Guess you haven’t seen California drivers who drive down the shoulder of the road going 85 while the rest of us are in the jammed lanes going 45 or the nut jobs who won’t wait at a red light and blast right thru or the crazy guy who is weaving in and out of traffic and nearly hitting every car. Your very lucky cuz all these cars have California plates on them.
I’ve lived in California for many years (unfortunately), so have seen all that and much, much more. Not sure how bad drivers apply to the topic being discussed, as they are found throughout the world as well.
These people who don’t follow rules or laws is what makes other countries really hate Americans. And I don’t blame them, we are guests in someone else’s home and we need to respect it. We all live somewhere and if a foreigner came here and threw trash; jumped over your fence or damaged your home or property, you would feel outraged and invaded.
I’ve been to many countries and I’ve always been accepted because I’ve treated people with respect and kindness. That has made my travels more memorable. I’ve also seen “ugly Americans” and how they complain at things that other countries do. And made me feel embarrassed and apologetic to my host. I guess the new phrase should be “entitled, ugly American”
That is the crux of the problem, only “some” do. Should there be a Litmus Test before parents can let their offspring into the world of Adults? If not then what amount of Troubles and Behaviors should be acceptable and tolerated before They “work it out of their system” and be Considered Grown Up?
At it’s heart, it’s the narcissist “All about me”, whether Selfie Sticks (talk about a self incriminatory)’ in the late ’90’s may have been worse, dodging 3′ wands on Kalakaua or Waikiki Beach! These are the same people who don’t get the ‘Space’ issue of staying in one’s own, the guy who decides on Pizza @ 0900 as he or she boards the plane sitting in ‘B’ or ‘E’, as if we all wanted to share the ghastly aroma, before our senses had awoken. We didn’t get the “Ugly American” moniker for nothing, sadly as the Family devolved, the Example of Decorum and Respect gave way to the lowest common denominator, that eliminates any questions as to “Act like you’ve done this before” telling all of the Madonna Syndrome that afflicts so many!
You cannot fix stupid. I stopped using social media 2 years ago after reading a psychologist study that it was detrimental to mental health during covid. It is a fad and will pass when some Millennials who have yet to grow up finally do. Best to ignore them and move on from social media to the real world.
Unfortunately, the social media generation is missing a sense of self-confidence, and seems to need being seen to feel important. Sadly, no one cares about them.
Hey old people long before InstaGrammers a magazine came out called Hawaii Revealed which was the forerunner to showing tourist how to trespass, find beaches that only locals knew about and pretty much unlock all secrets of Hawaii.
Fact is BOH not long ago you spoke about driving the back side of Maui which resulted in a 100 plus car traffic jam and 2 car loads of tourist needing recue trapped between 2 rivers overflowing the road.
For what reason there’s really no must see spots back there, but hey when you write your next article about charging tourist to get rescued remember you’re the ones who suggested driving the back side of Maui.
By the way it violates most rental car agreements to be back there.
I understand that those who are doing something to be seen on social media don’t understand that they instigate others to do grander stunts. Some of these have no regard to signage or rules, which is a shame.
As others have said, a photo and caption should be more than enough evidence to issue a fine. They fine people that post pictures of themselves grabbing turtles, so why not trespassing? 99.5% of tourists are wonderful, respectful guests. The other .5% is ruining it for all of us. They give tourists a bad name which causes resentment among the locals, and that ends up being a bad time for everyone. And if there are problem areas, post a cop or DLNR official there for a random day once a month with a big book of blank tickets and a grumpy attitude and see if that helps. I will contribute to the cost of enforcement if they post the looks on people’s faces when they get the ticket. That’s the only Instagram I’d make time for.
Aloha Rob & Jeff, and thank you for keeping this newsletter running!
It’s so sad, and this problem is global, with utter disrespect for other cultures & other lands.
People water skiing in the Venetian canals? Venice Italy has begun limiting the number of tourists
allowed in—not a bad idea—I hope Hawaii does the same. I began going to Kauai in 1978, and went
regularly over several decades. It’s changed so much—not sure if I’ll ever be back. There’s been such a
tourism explosion in the past 2 decades everywhere, it’s mind-blowing! Social media has completely destroyed
any hope for civility. So grateful I was able to see & experience Hawaii before this new culture took over.
Tik Tokkers are worse! I refuse to get on that platform for a ton of reasons, as I think it is far worse than FB or Insta. Social media has it’s positives, but IMO the negatives far outweigh them! It’s outrageous.
Narcissism is at an all time high in this Country….between the ego boost that social media provides and the perception
that some seem to think their “right” to do what they want trumps everything, we are definitely suffering as a society.
As others have stated Hawaii is not the only placed being “crammed” to death. In Washington we have the Enchantment Lakes. This past summer I had a young female offer to pay me to let her take a picture or two with my tent. This picture would serve as proof positive that she had attained one of the coveted lottery pick core permits. Sure go ahead take all you want was my response.
As a new subscriber, I’d say give these social misfits no publicity or credence but instead let’s start prosecuting them for trespassing and ill regard for laws and local culture!
I’m an old man of 69 but I was taught that you obey laws and rules, you don’t cause damage to property or persons Ever! There is no being entitled! I’m sick of the “well it’s ok” attitude! Life has rules and there are consequences if you don’t follow them. In the end we will all lose the ability to visit beautiful and serene places because of this behavior! Makes me sad and Angry all rolled into one!
Aloha Rob and Jeff. Well, once again the only remedy to stop this indulgence on “me” people is to locate them through their videos and then send them a hefty fine for disobeying the rules.Is that even a possibility to do? Now I really think that the person who needs to be rescued should pay full cost for their rescue.At least he didn’t fly his drone. But I am sure he will. Aloha and Mahalo for your updates. Looking forward to coming over next month for safe and legal activities.
Thank you. The state DLNR mentioned that when they post a comment requesting the trespassing images be taken down, that is often met by either disregard or their comment being deleted.
…Or we can just send them into space. Isn’t that the new frontier for travel? The best selfies can be taken there. And then let’s see if they can find their way back.
Uuuuumm YES and Facebook too they need to stop marketing our islands and start showing how visitors can contribute to the island in more ways than just money
Utah is also being loved to death. It breaks my heart to see how worn down the ‘hoodoos’ are getting at Goblin Valley State Park. Instagrammers and ‘mommy-bloggers’ with their selfies and maps have ruined access to many lakes, campgrounds, and trails. People seem to have little to no respect for the land and leave garbage, damaged facilities and natural resources. It is now necessary to have a reservation to visit Arches National Park. The local canyons are being over-run to the point that a gondola system is being considered for little cottonwood canyon to help mitigate the traffic snarl that ensues during the winter months. Sadly, more enforcement is needed to keep the trespassers and vandals in check. Let’s do better America.
My favorite selfie story occurred when we were at the Grand Canyon last year. A young lady decided to jump a barrier and go out on a cliff with a 500-foot dropoff to take a selfie. What’s more amusing was that she was donning a covid mask. A loss of balance would have resulted in her falling to her death. But hey, she had her mask on.
What’s really distressing about your story is that if one of these idiots gets injured or stranded, the first responders have to risk their lives to save them.
I was recently at Picture Rocks national park when someone broke their leg after climbing over a barrier and climbing down cliff. Multiple people had to repel down this cliff to get him.
We need a law that says if you break the law or trespass and get injured…you will bare the Full cost of rescue and rehabilitation of yourself and any damaged environment. First responder time and materials included.
I must be really, really old. My wife and I hardly ever get pictures of us on any trip; no proof we were actually there. We do share pictures on Facebook; fish, birds. turtles, whates, and stuff like that.
I totally understand being fed up with entitled tourists, being from Montana we get a ton of them at Yellowstone. But what exactly do you mean when they say respectful tourists? We have been to Hawaii 5 times and Love it, the land, people, and culture. With every visit that love and respect grows. I feel that you all should get together and do a video of the “does and don’ts”, give some cultural history and explain to the tourists who don’t know anything, what Aloha means. And make every airline play it on the flight over, you are stuck on that plane for hours. Educate the morons who don’t know how to be a respectful tourists and frankly wouldn’t be one no matter where they are going. Couldn’t hurt.
In previous posts What surprised me was the “Locals” touting that this is the Age Group/Generation that they prefer as Tourists. I immediately challenged this with Warnings. This type of Juvenile behavior should Never be encouraged or explained away, it Should Be Challenged and result in Arrest, Fines and Jail. Scour the internet and issue Summons and, or,Arrest Warrants. They won’t come back! Treat them As Adults and the Responsibilities that come with it. Enforcement Must be a part of the Solution, when Costly Fines are issued it will dissuade others. If someone is injured, or dies, Bill the Person Family or Estate for Associated Costs! Make it Painfully Clear, “None of Your BS is Wanted Here! Enough Excusing Bad and Illegal Behaviors.
Agree 100%. The more severe the punishment, the more of a deterrent it will be. The price to be paid must be high enough to truly change people’s behavior.
Think about how clean, safe and beautiful Japan is. Some of the main reasons are – they’ve never allowed outside influences to take hold in any meaningful way throughout the country, they do not tolerate disrespectful behavior, from birth, children are taught respect for others, one’s surroundings, etc. Some rush to call them a homogeneous society, but most other countries look at the behavior of their own citizens and think “This is why we can’t have nice things” – when was the last time you read about a Japanese citizen defacing a historical site? It all starts with the parents.
Those parroting the tired “ugly American” line must not get out much. Growing up on multiple islands, I personally witnessed hundreds, if not thousands of incidents of ridiculous behavior by . . . wait for it . . . non-Americans over the years. Europeans (who may be visually mistaken for Americans) can be particularly arrogant and disrespectful.
Read the news of the world once in a while, and you will see countless examples of non-Americans behaving in truly appalling ways across the globe (there are reasons why Japan has had to make many “cultural adjustments” regarding Chinese people arriving by the busload at historical sites).
Unfortunately, there is plenty of blame to go around, so don’t try to heap it all onto Americans.
What you have said is the truth, however, Americans do hold the record for really pushing the edge too far. Believing that they’ll be the next YouTube sensation and derive riches or attention they manage to Achieve the “Dumd Struck” Award even if they die. It’s the way many of Them were raised and allowed to do what they want without restrictions, restraints or any real consistent punishment. At “Supposed” adulthood they’re released upon society, why should We suffer their childish antics just because their parents did?
It absolutely comes from how they were raised, and much responsibility falls on the parents (though at “adulthood”, one must take responsibility for one’s own actions). This is a direct result of the soft, “participation trophy”, entitled, zero-discipline style of parenting. Has nothing to do with “boomers” ranting, and everything to do with young adults being released into the world without the proper social skills/respect for people, places and things.
The chase for that next dopamine “hit” via likes on Instagram, TikTok, etc. exposes the shallow, “me first” mentality that is driving this behavior.
Robert take a chill pill bro. Seriously. The best most attentive parent can turn out the most idiotic kids. A terrible parent the child can turn out responsible and good. Your comments are ridiculous broad brush of all.
“This is a direct result of the soft, “participation trophy”, entitled, zero-discipline style of parenting.” Bababab BS Those parents Buy the trophy for their spoiled kids. You seem to think its ok to point out losers vs winners.
I have seen all ages acting like idiots. Yes some boomers feel their money entitles them to act like morons.
Guess you haven’t seen California drivers who drive down the shoulder of the road going 85 while the rest of us are in the jammed lanes going 45 or the nut jobs who won’t wait at a red light and blast right thru or the crazy guy who is weaving in and out of traffic and nearly hitting every car. Your very lucky cuz all these cars have California plates on them.
I’ve lived in California for many years (unfortunately), so have seen all that and much, much more. Not sure how bad drivers apply to the topic being discussed, as they are found throughout the world as well.
These people who don’t follow rules or laws is what makes other countries really hate Americans. And I don’t blame them, we are guests in someone else’s home and we need to respect it. We all live somewhere and if a foreigner came here and threw trash; jumped over your fence or damaged your home or property, you would feel outraged and invaded.
I’ve been to many countries and I’ve always been accepted because I’ve treated people with respect and kindness. That has made my travels more memorable. I’ve also seen “ugly Americans” and how they complain at things that other countries do. And made me feel embarrassed and apologetic to my host. I guess the new phrase should be “entitled, ugly American”
At some point in life, some people actually grow up.
That is the crux of the problem, only “some” do. Should there be a Litmus Test before parents can let their offspring into the world of Adults? If not then what amount of Troubles and Behaviors should be acceptable and tolerated before They “work it out of their system” and be Considered Grown Up?
There should be litmus test to have children
At it’s heart, it’s the narcissist “All about me”, whether Selfie Sticks (talk about a self incriminatory)’ in the late ’90’s may have been worse, dodging 3′ wands on Kalakaua or Waikiki Beach! These are the same people who don’t get the ‘Space’ issue of staying in one’s own, the guy who decides on Pizza @ 0900 as he or she boards the plane sitting in ‘B’ or ‘E’, as if we all wanted to share the ghastly aroma, before our senses had awoken. We didn’t get the “Ugly American” moniker for nothing, sadly as the Family devolved, the Example of Decorum and Respect gave way to the lowest common denominator, that eliminates any questions as to “Act like you’ve done this before” telling all of the Madonna Syndrome that afflicts so many!
You cannot fix stupid. I stopped using social media 2 years ago after reading a psychologist study that it was detrimental to mental health during covid. It is a fad and will pass when some Millennials who have yet to grow up finally do. Best to ignore them and move on from social media to the real world.
Unfortunately, the social media generation is missing a sense of self-confidence, and seems to need being seen to feel important. Sadly, no one cares about them.
Hey old people long before InstaGrammers a magazine came out called Hawaii Revealed which was the forerunner to showing tourist how to trespass, find beaches that only locals knew about and pretty much unlock all secrets of Hawaii.
Fact is BOH not long ago you spoke about driving the back side of Maui which resulted in a 100 plus car traffic jam and 2 car loads of tourist needing recue trapped between 2 rivers overflowing the road.
For what reason there’s really no must see spots back there, but hey when you write your next article about charging tourist to get rescued remember you’re the ones who suggested driving the back side of Maui.
By the way it violates most rental car agreements to be back there.
I understand that those who are doing something to be seen on social media don’t understand that they instigate others to do grander stunts. Some of these have no regard to signage or rules, which is a shame.
As others have said, a photo and caption should be more than enough evidence to issue a fine. They fine people that post pictures of themselves grabbing turtles, so why not trespassing? 99.5% of tourists are wonderful, respectful guests. The other .5% is ruining it for all of us. They give tourists a bad name which causes resentment among the locals, and that ends up being a bad time for everyone. And if there are problem areas, post a cop or DLNR official there for a random day once a month with a big book of blank tickets and a grumpy attitude and see if that helps. I will contribute to the cost of enforcement if they post the looks on people’s faces when they get the ticket. That’s the only Instagram I’d make time for.
Aloha Rob & Jeff, and thank you for keeping this newsletter running!
It’s so sad, and this problem is global, with utter disrespect for other cultures & other lands.
People water skiing in the Venetian canals? Venice Italy has begun limiting the number of tourists
allowed in—not a bad idea—I hope Hawaii does the same. I began going to Kauai in 1978, and went
regularly over several decades. It’s changed so much—not sure if I’ll ever be back. There’s been such a
tourism explosion in the past 2 decades everywhere, it’s mind-blowing! Social media has completely destroyed
any hope for civility. So grateful I was able to see & experience Hawaii before this new culture took over.
Tik Tokkers are worse! I refuse to get on that platform for a ton of reasons, as I think it is far worse than FB or Insta. Social media has it’s positives, but IMO the negatives far outweigh them! It’s outrageous.
Narcissism is at an all time high in this Country….between the ego boost that social media provides and the perception
that some seem to think their “right” to do what they want trumps everything, we are definitely suffering as a society.
As others have stated Hawaii is not the only placed being “crammed” to death. In Washington we have the Enchantment Lakes. This past summer I had a young female offer to pay me to let her take a picture or two with my tent. This picture would serve as proof positive that she had attained one of the coveted lottery pick core permits. Sure go ahead take all you want was my response.
Yes.
As a new subscriber, I’d say give these social misfits no publicity or credence but instead let’s start prosecuting them for trespassing and ill regard for laws and local culture!
I’m an old man of 69 but I was taught that you obey laws and rules, you don’t cause damage to property or persons Ever! There is no being entitled! I’m sick of the “well it’s ok” attitude! Life has rules and there are consequences if you don’t follow them. In the end we will all lose the ability to visit beautiful and serene places because of this behavior! Makes me sad and Angry all rolled into one!
Aloha Rob and Jeff. Well, once again the only remedy to stop this indulgence on “me” people is to locate them through their videos and then send them a hefty fine for disobeying the rules.Is that even a possibility to do? Now I really think that the person who needs to be rescued should pay full cost for their rescue.At least he didn’t fly his drone. But I am sure he will. Aloha and Mahalo for your updates. Looking forward to coming over next month for safe and legal activities.
Hi Debra.
Thank you. The state DLNR mentioned that when they post a comment requesting the trespassing images be taken down, that is often met by either disregard or their comment being deleted.
Aloha.
I thinking tracking them down in social media and fining them is a great idea.
…Or we can just send them into space. Isn’t that the new frontier for travel? The best selfies can be taken there. And then let’s see if they can find their way back.
Hawaii isn’t the only place that has been ruined by the Insta crowd. The list is endless. What is wrong with those people?
Terrible parenting
Uuuuumm YES and Facebook too they need to stop marketing our islands and start showing how visitors can contribute to the island in more ways than just money
Utah is also being loved to death. It breaks my heart to see how worn down the ‘hoodoos’ are getting at Goblin Valley State Park. Instagrammers and ‘mommy-bloggers’ with their selfies and maps have ruined access to many lakes, campgrounds, and trails. People seem to have little to no respect for the land and leave garbage, damaged facilities and natural resources. It is now necessary to have a reservation to visit Arches National Park. The local canyons are being over-run to the point that a gondola system is being considered for little cottonwood canyon to help mitigate the traffic snarl that ensues during the winter months. Sadly, more enforcement is needed to keep the trespassers and vandals in check. Let’s do better America.
My favorite selfie story occurred when we were at the Grand Canyon last year. A young lady decided to jump a barrier and go out on a cliff with a 500-foot dropoff to take a selfie. What’s more amusing was that she was donning a covid mask. A loss of balance would have resulted in her falling to her death. But hey, she had her mask on.
What’s really distressing about your story is that if one of these idiots gets injured or stranded, the first responders have to risk their lives to save them.
Not only that, but they’ll probably try to sue the state for not employing more effective meawsures to protect them from their own stupidity.
I was recently at Picture Rocks national park when someone broke their leg after climbing over a barrier and climbing down cliff. Multiple people had to repel down this cliff to get him.
Not on Instagram and never will be. A complete waste as far as I’m concerned!!
We need a law that says if you break the law or trespass and get injured…you will bare the Full cost of rescue and rehabilitation of yourself and any damaged environment. First responder time and materials included.
I must be really, really old. My wife and I hardly ever get pictures of us on any trip; no proof we were actually there. We do share pictures on Facebook; fish, birds. turtles, whates, and stuff like that.
I’ve never seen a whate before… 😉