Hawaii Air Rage Was Inevitable. Then It Happened. So What’s Ahead?

With a chilling video. Two events yesterday raised new concerns about Hawaii air rage.

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  1. By simple definition, this event was not really “Air Rage” in the contemporary sense if it was truly an “unprovoked incident” (unlikely) and “not triggered by non-compliance with mask wearing policies”. It certainly could have simply been a mental health incident… or an alcohol-related incident–both of which have been happening on flights as long as there have been airlines.

    In terms of preventing the former, short of requiring some sort of mental health exam and certification from all passengers–pre-flight–there’s not much that can be done about those. In terms of preventing the latter, the airlines stopped serving alcohol–and the number of incidents either remained pretty constant or increased–so clearly that’s not the solution. And as a frequently flyer who often has a beer or two on flights–without attacking the flight crew–I’m annoyed and frankly insulted that the beverage service in general has been eliminated or greatly diminished on most flights. The reality is that 99.8576835% of passengers–if not more–are able to have a beer or two… or a glass of wine… or a vodka and soda–and not lose on the plane. So they should not be punished for the bad behavior of the .14% of passengers that cannot. A small percentage of drivers on the road are also impaired… and they kill poeple sometimes… and that sucks. But you don’t hear any (serious) talk about not selling alcohol anymore… or closing down all the bars.

    And what’s with turning the flight around and going back to Honolulu? The flight time from Hilo to Honolulu is like 50 minutes… so that’s maybe 20 to 30 minutes in the air at most. Why turn around and go back to where you started from when you be at your final destination point in about the same time–if not less? That just screws over everyone on the plane for no good reason.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: There should be federal flight bans for any passengers convicted for this kind of chicanery.

    1. Like the ability to get to destination you paid hard earned money to get to because an infantile wanker believes wearing a mask is in some way a violation of their freedom? Utter nonsense.

  2. The FAA & airlines should implement all 3 suggestions. The level of selfish entitlement by these passengers is out of control & puts everyone else on their plane at risk. Not only from Covid-19 but a potentially distracted or injured crew as we are hurtling thru the air 500mph+ at 30,000ft. Enough! Ban them, better yet jail time.Flight attendants deserve a safe work environment & the rest of us, some peace & health when we fly. Thank you BOH

  3. This saddens me to know that we as people are not following basic rules of behavior. Follow the rules and be kind in your responses to others. Don’t fly if you are not willing to obey the simplest of rules.

  4. This truly can be a horrifying experience. I’ve worked security in prison (now retired) and have been assaulted “out of the blue”. Most of the time, you know it’s going to happen, but sometimes I didn’t see it coming. Of course I was trained to defend myself and my back-up came.
    Airline workers (most of them) are NOT security. Plus, where is back-up going to come from to help an Attendant subdue the assailant.
    You are ALL in my thoughts and prayers.
    Much Aloha for doing what you do for those of us flying.

  5. The pandemic has made travel difficult at best. Travelers should please remember that it’s not the flight attendants who make the rules but they do have to enforce them. I choose not to travel so I don’t have to put up with the ridiculousness of some of these rules. The choice is pretty clear.

  6. It befuddles me as to why this type of behavior and the aforementioned policing falls upon an individual airlines’ no-fly list. Physical assaults of this nature is terrorism, pure and simple. Those guilty of such action should be put on federal no-fly lists and never make it through an airport TSA checkpoint no matter what airline they were able cajole a ticket from. Problem solved (at least a second occurrence and hopefully provides other deterrence’s).

  7. I don’t understand the rage in our society right now. Road rage and flight passenger rage. Do I like to wear a mask? What I prefer to fly without wearing a mask? Does it really matter? If I choose to fly and know what requires wearing a mask, I accept that responsibility. Adults are acting like 2-year-olds throwing temper tantrums. Are we going to have to resort to psychological testing before we can fly? I feel very sorry for flight attendants. I am also concerned about the safety of other passengers. Do we need to resort to flight Marshalls being on each plane? What will that do to airline fares? I have no answer but these are things we really need to think about seriously. Aloha.

  8. Great idea that will benefit both the airline employees and the flying public.
    If a passenger can’t follow the very few rules of flying, you deserve to be banned from flying on any airline. You have no right to put a plane load of innocent peoples lives at risk because of your bad behavior. There is plenty of documentation in the form of videos to prove each and every occurrence.
    Want to bet the problem will nearly take care of itself when real consequences are enforced? Do it!


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