We weren’t particularly happy to have to get up at 6:00am to catch our 8:10am flight last Friday (08/05) but now it appears it was a blessing. We were the only ones on the TSA Pre line and there were only two groups in the “regular line” when we went thru at 6:45am! Guess that’s the answer! Get up with the chickens!
Aloha and for anybody who has been through our quaint, welcoming and usually calm Kauai airport, reports of arrests are alarming. But no should be surprised. My interactions with visitors leads me to believe such “emotional” behavior is the new normal throughout The mainland. Everyone is on edge. That’s why the world needs Kaua’i and Kaua’i needs the world. People come here, in part, for the aloha Hawaii offers. Lucky live Kaua’i!
We were delighted to see a trio of musicians and a dancer at the Kauai airport while we waited to board our flight back to the mainland. Music soothes the soul and it was a welcome reminder of our relaxing trip and the quiet pace of Kauai.
When we visited Hawaii the first 2 times we were greeted by Hula Dancers and a Trio of Musicians, alas no more, but it was very nice. Recently we flew down to the Dominican Republic and as always we were greeted by Musicians and a welcoming trio of grass skirted young women, same thing when flying in to Antigua’s Bird International. It tends to make you feel as if you’re actually wanted and it’s fun. Aloha from foreign countries, not from Hawaii though, interesting debacle!
I Agree with you that You are lucky to be living there, as long as you are able to afford it. The mainland world, for as much as I see, isn’t uptight which makes me wonder if what you are experiencing is from the same areas of the country that were always “Edgy” to begin with, only now multiplied by 296! That, to me, would make sense of what is happening. If people are flying to Hawaii for rest and relaxation then they should leave their attitudes at home, if not then don’t come!
No excuse for bad behavior. This makes the case to get Global Entry or TSA Precheck. Even if there is only one TSA checkpoint open, those with Precheck go thru every other passenger. Plus quicker from there on since you keep your shoes on, etc. Bad news is I’ve heard it’s hard to get an interview due to backlog. My Global Entry renewal went through smoothly last year thank goodness with no need to interview again.
I have TSA preCheck and found that it didn’t make much difference time-wise when leaving Kauai on our last flight. My husband stood in the “regular” line and actually finished scanning before I did. My preCheck line agent was in charge of flight crew members, too, and they had priority over us preCheckers.
GlobalEntry or Precheck doesn’t make anything better except for you, particularly if there is one kiosk open. Ahead of the line just makes others wait longer. And madder.
There needs to be a better solution, spacing out the flights more consistently? As more employees is not achievable, dedicated, spaced out time windows for each flight….not 3- 4 hours before and everyone arrives at once. Triaging of sorts.
Kauai, wasn’t that the Airport that was going to be expanding a couple of gates to help with the process of getting passengers out quicker until Protesters backed by Ige decided not to? I guess that the Airport Board knows what is Needed despite others insistence otherwise. At the same time What was going through the heads of these people? They did get through the lines quicker, I hope that they enjoyed the ride to the police station, their moment before the Judge and posting bail, 1 @ $2000 and 1@ $20! Patience and a level head could have kept this from happening, why make things worse for everyone? Floor Shows are supposed to be Entertaining and done in an appropriate place. Rethink the Expansion and help the Travelers!
If the state goes ahead with expanding LIH it will mean the airlines will schedule more flights and result in more congestion. Exactly why the Mayor and council voted down the enlarging of the airport. There’s a point where one has to say STOP. Kauai also had the strictest controls during the pandemic.
Increasing TSA Checking lines will not increase the traffic in and out of LIH. Increasing the Airport itself, would increase the traffic. The increase in TSA Lines would only help to facilitate the traffic that is already coming through the Airport.
Airlines do need to seek approval for new and additional flights, it’s not just a matter of showing up and demanding to land. It is a controllable situation that can be handled effectively. If suddenly more flights begin to land, look at your Airport Comptroller and Board, they caved in to the money.
Sad. Of course none of these reports revealed the what set these persons off. But Imagine a first time visitor to the Islands. In high anticipation of all the great things they heard from others about Hawaii. Only to witness one of those incidents as described. What impression will it give that person about the kind of people they might encounter on the Islands?
It’s called the “SWA effect”….they jump into a market with a lot of flight and temporary discount fares to attract new customers, then gradually raise their fares over time. Wait till their inter island expansion starts. Boycot SWA.
Tourists should be honored .grateful and happy to be in paradise .
Even if leaving its still paradise at the airport.
I would be happy to stand in line for 3 hours etc to be there right now.
Why go in busy season. If you can’t stand crowds.
Go some where else.
Aloha. I can see that in the future over-tourism won’t be a problem. The airports are difficult to get through and long hot lines. Couple that with the airlines seemingly trying to get the other guys nickel by cancelling flights and destinations causing people to be unsure about their arrival and departure, I can see their dollars going elsewhere. Rejoice Islanders! You will have the beaches to yourselves.
It’s not just the tourists. We live here and flying to Oahu for a day trip medical appointment anytime other than the early early AM is a nightmare. Sometimes 3 hours in a TSA line. That’s 3 hours for a 45 min. flight. When you’re old this hurts. Then, they always pull me out for additional body check even though I tell them upfront about my TKR, pacemaker etc. etc. Have decided to forego the scan and routinely ask for a body check (as I will be subjected to one anyway). Spare myself extra radiation and upset – controlling the triggers because I always feel persecuted when they pull me out. Start profiling already!
Right up until the Japanese Flights begin bringing Tourists and then will begin the Tourism from the Asian Countries. How long before the Flights from India and Pakistan begin to arrive? It shouldn’t get too lonely for very long, enjoy your temporary solitude if it comes!
I just discovered the cultural garden at HNL and enjoyed it by myself during a long layover.
We weren’t particularly happy to have to get up at 6:00am to catch our 8:10am flight last Friday (08/05) but now it appears it was a blessing. We were the only ones on the TSA Pre line and there were only two groups in the “regular line” when we went thru at 6:45am! Guess that’s the answer! Get up with the chickens!
Aloha and for anybody who has been through our quaint, welcoming and usually calm Kauai airport, reports of arrests are alarming. But no should be surprised. My interactions with visitors leads me to believe such “emotional” behavior is the new normal throughout The mainland. Everyone is on edge. That’s why the world needs Kaua’i and Kaua’i needs the world. People come here, in part, for the aloha Hawaii offers. Lucky live Kaua’i!
We were delighted to see a trio of musicians and a dancer at the Kauai airport while we waited to board our flight back to the mainland. Music soothes the soul and it was a welcome reminder of our relaxing trip and the quiet pace of Kauai.
When we visited Hawaii the first 2 times we were greeted by Hula Dancers and a Trio of Musicians, alas no more, but it was very nice. Recently we flew down to the Dominican Republic and as always we were greeted by Musicians and a welcoming trio of grass skirted young women, same thing when flying in to Antigua’s Bird International. It tends to make you feel as if you’re actually wanted and it’s fun. Aloha from foreign countries, not from Hawaii though, interesting debacle!
I Agree with you that You are lucky to be living there, as long as you are able to afford it. The mainland world, for as much as I see, isn’t uptight which makes me wonder if what you are experiencing is from the same areas of the country that were always “Edgy” to begin with, only now multiplied by 296! That, to me, would make sense of what is happening. If people are flying to Hawaii for rest and relaxation then they should leave their attitudes at home, if not then don’t come!
No excuse for bad behavior. This makes the case to get Global Entry or TSA Precheck. Even if there is only one TSA checkpoint open, those with Precheck go thru every other passenger. Plus quicker from there on since you keep your shoes on, etc. Bad news is I’ve heard it’s hard to get an interview due to backlog. My Global Entry renewal went through smoothly last year thank goodness with no need to interview again.
I have TSA preCheck and found that it didn’t make much difference time-wise when leaving Kauai on our last flight. My husband stood in the “regular” line and actually finished scanning before I did. My preCheck line agent was in charge of flight crew members, too, and they had priority over us preCheckers.
GlobalEntry or Precheck doesn’t make anything better except for you, particularly if there is one kiosk open. Ahead of the line just makes others wait longer. And madder.
There needs to be a better solution, spacing out the flights more consistently? As more employees is not achievable, dedicated, spaced out time windows for each flight….not 3- 4 hours before and everyone arrives at once. Triaging of sorts.
This was Preventable. Changing scanners during peak tourist travel was just plain dumb.
You tax dollars at work!
Or Not at work.
Kauai, wasn’t that the Airport that was going to be expanding a couple of gates to help with the process of getting passengers out quicker until Protesters backed by Ige decided not to? I guess that the Airport Board knows what is Needed despite others insistence otherwise. At the same time What was going through the heads of these people? They did get through the lines quicker, I hope that they enjoyed the ride to the police station, their moment before the Judge and posting bail, 1 @ $2000 and 1@ $20! Patience and a level head could have kept this from happening, why make things worse for everyone? Floor Shows are supposed to be Entertaining and done in an appropriate place. Rethink the Expansion and help the Travelers!
If the state goes ahead with expanding LIH it will mean the airlines will schedule more flights and result in more congestion. Exactly why the Mayor and council voted down the enlarging of the airport. There’s a point where one has to say STOP. Kauai also had the strictest controls during the pandemic.
Increasing TSA Checking lines will not increase the traffic in and out of LIH. Increasing the Airport itself, would increase the traffic. The increase in TSA Lines would only help to facilitate the traffic that is already coming through the Airport.
Airlines do need to seek approval for new and additional flights, it’s not just a matter of showing up and demanding to land. It is a controllable situation that can be handled effectively. If suddenly more flights begin to land, look at your Airport Comptroller and Board, they caved in to the money.
Sad. Of course none of these reports revealed the what set these persons off. But Imagine a first time visitor to the Islands. In high anticipation of all the great things they heard from others about Hawaii. Only to witness one of those incidents as described. What impression will it give that person about the kind of people they might encounter on the Islands?
It’s called the “SWA effect”….they jump into a market with a lot of flight and temporary discount fares to attract new customers, then gradually raise their fares over time. Wait till their inter island expansion starts. Boycot SWA.
Tourists should be honored .grateful and happy to be in paradise .
Even if leaving its still paradise at the airport.
I would be happy to stand in line for 3 hours etc to be there right now.
Why go in busy season. If you can’t stand crowds.
Go some where else.
According to the story it was also a local that was arrested.
Aloha. I can see that in the future over-tourism won’t be a problem. The airports are difficult to get through and long hot lines. Couple that with the airlines seemingly trying to get the other guys nickel by cancelling flights and destinations causing people to be unsure about their arrival and departure, I can see their dollars going elsewhere. Rejoice Islanders! You will have the beaches to yourselves.
It’s not just the tourists. We live here and flying to Oahu for a day trip medical appointment anytime other than the early early AM is a nightmare. Sometimes 3 hours in a TSA line. That’s 3 hours for a 45 min. flight. When you’re old this hurts. Then, they always pull me out for additional body check even though I tell them upfront about my TKR, pacemaker etc. etc. Have decided to forego the scan and routinely ask for a body check (as I will be subjected to one anyway). Spare myself extra radiation and upset – controlling the triggers because I always feel persecuted when they pull me out. Start profiling already!
Right up until the Japanese Flights begin bringing Tourists and then will begin the Tourism from the Asian Countries. How long before the Flights from India and Pakistan begin to arrive? It shouldn’t get too lonely for very long, enjoy your temporary solitude if it comes!