87 thoughts on “Next Wave of Intended Hawaii Residents Fleeing Big Cities”

  1. Aloha,
    I absolutely would if I had the means. I’m determined to do this someday. I’m just not sure which Island would be the one for me, as I have only been to Maui so far, and Oahu for about 10 hours.
    I want to be able to garden, and I want to always be warm, this I know!

    Mahalo

  2. I have been planning on moving to the Big Island for about five years. My plan was to put my house in Colorado on the market in June and move once it sells. That is still my plan although I realize that the timing may be pushed back a bit.

  3. Aloha Beat of Hawaii friends 🙂 While my mom was a Librarian in Lihui in the late 1930’s & the islands feel like home when we visit, we feel as if the islands are under stress culturally & environmentally & need a break and some love. We’ll visit from time-to-time, tread lightly while we are there, and support island environmental and cultural conservation efforts.

    Much Aloha, and Mahalo for the Beat of Hawaii 🙂

    Peter L. CA

  4. Aloha and thank you for your valuable information. We own a vacation rental on Kauai, and fully endorse the Mayor’s proclamation, even though it means significant lost revenue. The other islands should adopt this policy as well, ASAP. The health and welfare of the of the local people are paramount, and we want to be able to be welcomed back to the Island when the time is right.
    Mahalo nui loa.

  5. So if you own a vacation rental that is empty and are a resident on the island you are not allowed to visit or stay in you own vacation home?

    1. Difficult situation, Helen. My friend is a board member of a large condo complex where many absentee mainland owners operate AirBnBs. When this first hit, quite a few of them started moving into their own units. This created a lot of tension, because the locals didn’t know their faces and – in a situation like this – the perception among true residents is that any unknown face poses a potential danger, possibly mortal danger. It didn’t help that some of the returning owners got caught partying at the community pool. After a short amount of time, legal threats were flying around, the pool was closed, and the whole community was in disarray. Sure, you can use your own condo any time, but please be very mindful in how you resettle. And keep in mind that the explosion of absentee owned AirBnBs has been unpopular among local communities long before this crisis hit, so you might attract extra scrutiny.

  6. Interesting that Hawaii is clamping down so hard, to the point of monitoring the # of passengers coming in on flights, where they are going, yanking the rug out from under the owners of Airbnb’s, etc. I get that this is in order to stop the vi rus but it seems EXTREMELY heavy handed. As an example, I live in a town of 70K residents in Northern CA. We have been on lockdown for almost a month now. We have a grand total of 13 people with the vi rus. And the thing is that we have people arriving and departing every day, plenty of cars are out and about, many/most businesses are still open, etc. The lesson I have learned is that you don’t HAVE to go draconian (as Hawaii seems to be doing) in order to contain the vi rus.

    This whole experience has left me with the realization that with this type of a knee-jerk reaction Hawaii might not be the place for me, other than a week-long vacation.

    1. Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately Hawai’i does not have near the medical resources that the mainland does. We cannot “outsource” patients easily to another location if all our ICU beds are filled; people will die if there is a shortage. For that reason, the seemingly harsh restrictions can be well-understood. Sorry if it is “inconvenient” for some; but it is life and death here. Given the historical perspective of native Hawaiians being decimated by introduced disease (80%? of native population died), I do not believe this is an over reaction. And it IS temporary, so “stand by for further instructions”… Mahalo for your understanding…

    2. Each person or family fill out a declaration before disembarking. This has been required as long as I can remember. This vi rus mitigation will be particularly difficult for Hawaii as the economy is overweighted to hospitality.

      Be sure to support local business

    3. Hi Bob, I too, live in Northern California. The situation is not at all the same on any island for the reason already explained by another commenter. In addition, if you read some Hawaiian history you might understand a bit better.

      The concept of “Pono” is an important one for anyone contemplating a move to Hawaii, and especially critical now!

      1. To be clear, I am not bemoaning the apparent “closure” of the state to visitors. The reasoning behind the limited hospital beds and prior experience with outbreaks absolutely makes sense. What DOES turn me off is the apparent heavy hand with which the state government has wielded their authority.

        The question that was asked was whether I would make a move to Hawaii now (or in the future) if I had the resources (which I do BTW). And after this experience my answer was (and remains) “No, because the beauty of Hawaii is not worth having to live under such a heavy hand for a long period of time”. But then again, that would also explain why I would hate living in a community with CC&R’s. There is a place for those that want the order that both CC&R’s and an “active” state government bring. I am not one of those people.

    4. Seems to me New York downplayed the seriousness of the situation too. My prayers are with you.

    5. Aloha, Bob L.,
      “We have been on lockdown for almost a month now. We have a grand total of 13 people with the vi rus.”
      (1) You don’t know that, unless everyone in town has been tested twice (because there are many false negatives).
      (2) Even if that is true, why do you suppose that is? Answer: because of the lockdown.
      You sound like a rather libertarian individual. So are many of us, but there are times when the protection of everyone (including the libertarians) requires some imposition of restrictions.

  7. We love Kauai and visit every year, except this year. We live in Lincoln Ca. and love it here. It keeps Kauai special just to visit for 2 to 3 weeks a year.
    Regards,
    Mark

  8. No. We are happy with our Indiana homestead and want to keep Maui as that very special place to visit.

    1. Norma

      We lived in northern Indiana for 50+ years and we are very happy that we moved to Maui. Not sure if we could move back to Indiana given that Indiana penalizes their seniors. Hawaii does not tax our Federal and State pensions. Hawaii’s sales tax is 4.16% compared to Indiana’s 7%. Northern Indiana’s property tax is hovering around 1% of the assessed values. If we sold our $700,000 condo and purchased the same priced condo near Notre Dame (and yes that’s a typical condo price near ND), we would be paying over $7,000 a year. We’re paying $1,500 (one thousand five) here on Maui and that’s no joke. Indiana needs to give retirees a reason to stay and it’s no wonder why retirees are moving out of Indiana. Wake up Indiana.

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