Reading this and reading the comments brought back memories of my first trip to Hawaii. There were about 200 of us from our high school graduating class that took a trip to Waikiki. It was a week long trip and we were staying in a high rise about 4 blocks from the beach. After we landed and were getting ready to leave the plane, the tour guides sat us down in our seats and very explicitly told us that if were going to be out and about after dark, that we needed to travel in pairs, but, preferably, in a group of 4 or more. Needless to say, before our week was up, a couple of our classmates were beaten up and robbed. This was in 1978. Seems nothing has changed and appears to have gotten worse. To this day, I won’t go back to Waikiki.
i dont know about crime indexes keith, but in four years on oahu, i have had a catalytic converter stolen, a van stolen, an attempted theft of a flatbed truck, a mailbox broken into, tresspassing at my home, and a smash and grab of my briefcase with a laptop and irreplacable personal belongings.
Anyone with two eyes and a brain can see crime is way up in Hawaii, and petty thieves eventually become felons and violent felons as thier appetite for the spoils of others labor increases and they continue to feed thier own bad habits. We pay major taxes and endure incredibly burdensome bureacratic hassles to live here! our leaders should do better and we should settle for nothing less than safe streets and homes, rather than arguing stats.
How about mandatory jail time of thirty days for all car burglary (what this crime really is). This will accomplish 2 things. It will act as a detterent and will keep these slugs (burglars) off the street. The tolerance for this type of crimes endangers the public at large and provides incentives and training for bigger and more violent crime! Until we vote differently or lay down the law (pun intended) for those elected to protect and to serve the law abiding, tax paying citizens, we will see more of the same. There is No Aloha in damaging vehicles and stealing valuable personal belongings. Eventually tourist will go elsewhere to spend thier hard earned money, just look at San Francisco for example.
“The Lord helps those who help themselves…” Simple, Don’t leave yur Stuff in da rental vehicle! Everyone Knows which one’s da Rental! It’s like parking in “Sherwood Forest” with all your stuff on da front seat n a sign that says help yourselves
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So if we follow that logic, it is the law abiding persons responsibility to keep thieves from stealing stuff, correct? Maybe we should take all our valuables out of our home when we leave to go on a hike or out of town so our home wont get robbed! but wait, then all our stuff will be in our cars for thieves to take there. Terrible logic. Put em in jail and make them pay restitution. Zero tolerance for those too lazy to earn an honest living! There are plenty of jobs availalbe and there is no excuse for stealing someone elses property!
We can rationalize all we want, but reality is reality, if you leave things of value in a rental vehicle you are just asking for it to grow legs and walk. The best defense against theft is a proactive stance by the owner.
You can equivocate all you want about how things “should be”, but that will get you nothing vs the reality of the situation. Personal responsibility has to come first. I repeat my advice as a local “Don’t leave yur stuff in da car”! I’ve never been broken into in all my 62 years both growing up there and visiting following this advice.
Sadly after all these years, the news in print and television does not report how these crimes negatively impacts the tourist industry. These young adults & teenagers are so brazen even when the public is watching. Teenagers are active tagging, vandalism, and breaking into cars during holidays; that’s when police and police volunteers show be active too. While you see police cars parked at the Kuhio Beach station, you rarely see an obvious present walking in the Waikiki area or monitoring the parking at the zoo. I always lock my car, no valuables and don’t go to the beach on visits.
The crime index in Hawaii is 116 vs. 108 and 109 for Texas and Florida. Hawaii’s economy is generated by tourism. That being said , just give your wise leaders some time. They are just not as efficient at destroying a state as their buddies in California. Remember once it’s gone it’s not coming back anytime soon (Detroit 1968 anybody?) The model is a two tiered society of an unarmed lower class that serves an upper class of rich elites who can afford armed security.
I’m a native Texan. Relatively long Hawaii resident. I was visiting in Texas a few weeks ago.
The figures seem realistic and they are very close to each other.
The primary element of Adam’s comment that is important will be the poorest of state, county, and city government officials “on the take” and just making friends with the wealthy.
Tulsi Gabbard recognized this part of Hawaii and hopefully can help this state not fail like California.
And he’s correct that the fees, parking, and other tariffs on visitors will make our income go down and many more young people with some Hawaiin heritage move to the mainland.
All that visitors money along with federal aid go to the politicians and land owners in the state.
As a Maui resident, it is apparent that police and government leaders are much more concerned a out protecting the prefire druggie homeless and criminals than residents.
These homeless have moved from the streets of Lahaina to Kaanapali and northward. Fairway Shops and Whalers Village now have groups of ten and more gathering to use drugs and to sell and buy them. Auto thefts are daily, with almost never an arrest. Even when police are provided photos and names of offenders. It is a sad day for Maui.
Does anyone have a suggestion on what authority to contact regarding the ring of thrives operating at the Honolulu Airport Parking facility??
Hi Paul.
We’d suggest either the police or the Department of Transportation.
Aloha.
Anything left unattended for 5 minutes in Hawaii will dissappear. Thievery is a major obsession of locals. It’s crazy.
Reading this and reading the comments brought back memories of my first trip to Hawaii. There were about 200 of us from our high school graduating class that took a trip to Waikiki. It was a week long trip and we were staying in a high rise about 4 blocks from the beach. After we landed and were getting ready to leave the plane, the tour guides sat us down in our seats and very explicitly told us that if were going to be out and about after dark, that we needed to travel in pairs, but, preferably, in a group of 4 or more. Needless to say, before our week was up, a couple of our classmates were beaten up and robbed. This was in 1978. Seems nothing has changed and appears to have gotten worse. To this day, I won’t go back to Waikiki.
i dont know about crime indexes keith, but in four years on oahu, i have had a catalytic converter stolen, a van stolen, an attempted theft of a flatbed truck, a mailbox broken into, tresspassing at my home, and a smash and grab of my briefcase with a laptop and irreplacable personal belongings.
Anyone with two eyes and a brain can see crime is way up in Hawaii, and petty thieves eventually become felons and violent felons as thier appetite for the spoils of others labor increases and they continue to feed thier own bad habits. We pay major taxes and endure incredibly burdensome bureacratic hassles to live here! our leaders should do better and we should settle for nothing less than safe streets and homes, rather than arguing stats.
How about mandatory jail time of thirty days for all car burglary (what this crime really is). This will accomplish 2 things. It will act as a detterent and will keep these slugs (burglars) off the street. The tolerance for this type of crimes endangers the public at large and provides incentives and training for bigger and more violent crime! Until we vote differently or lay down the law (pun intended) for those elected to protect and to serve the law abiding, tax paying citizens, we will see more of the same. There is No Aloha in damaging vehicles and stealing valuable personal belongings. Eventually tourist will go elsewhere to spend thier hard earned money, just look at San Francisco for example.
“The Lord helps those who help themselves…” Simple, Don’t leave yur Stuff in da rental vehicle! Everyone Knows which one’s da Rental! It’s like parking in “Sherwood Forest” with all your stuff on da front seat n a sign that says help yourselves
….
Best Regards – A Local…,
So if we follow that logic, it is the law abiding persons responsibility to keep thieves from stealing stuff, correct? Maybe we should take all our valuables out of our home when we leave to go on a hike or out of town so our home wont get robbed! but wait, then all our stuff will be in our cars for thieves to take there. Terrible logic. Put em in jail and make them pay restitution. Zero tolerance for those too lazy to earn an honest living! There are plenty of jobs availalbe and there is no excuse for stealing someone elses property!
We can rationalize all we want, but reality is reality, if you leave things of value in a rental vehicle you are just asking for it to grow legs and walk. The best defense against theft is a proactive stance by the owner.
You can equivocate all you want about how things “should be”, but that will get you nothing vs the reality of the situation. Personal responsibility has to come first. I repeat my advice as a local “Don’t leave yur stuff in da car”! I’ve never been broken into in all my 62 years both growing up there and visiting following this advice.
Best Regards.
Does “personal responsibility” apply to the thieves as well?
So what you are saying it’s a cultural thing. And that the victims are at fault. Very progressive thinking 🤔
Sadly after all these years, the news in print and television does not report how these crimes negatively impacts the tourist industry. These young adults & teenagers are so brazen even when the public is watching. Teenagers are active tagging, vandalism, and breaking into cars during holidays; that’s when police and police volunteers show be active too. While you see police cars parked at the Kuhio Beach station, you rarely see an obvious present walking in the Waikiki area or monitoring the parking at the zoo. I always lock my car, no valuables and don’t go to the beach on visits.
The crime index in Hawaii is 116 vs. 108 and 109 for Texas and Florida. Hawaii’s economy is generated by tourism. That being said , just give your wise leaders some time. They are just not as efficient at destroying a state as their buddies in California. Remember once it’s gone it’s not coming back anytime soon (Detroit 1968 anybody?) The model is a two tiered society of an unarmed lower class that serves an upper class of rich elites who can afford armed security.
The crime index huh? What propaganda website did you pull those figures from? I see much different numbers on actual government agency sites.
I’m a native Texan. Relatively long Hawaii resident. I was visiting in Texas a few weeks ago.
The figures seem realistic and they are very close to each other.
The primary element of Adam’s comment that is important will be the poorest of state, county, and city government officials “on the take” and just making friends with the wealthy.
Tulsi Gabbard recognized this part of Hawaii and hopefully can help this state not fail like California.
And he’s correct that the fees, parking, and other tariffs on visitors will make our income go down and many more young people with some Hawaiin heritage move to the mainland.
All that visitors money along with federal aid go to the politicians and land owners in the state.
As a Maui resident, it is apparent that police and government leaders are much more concerned a out protecting the prefire druggie homeless and criminals than residents.
These homeless have moved from the streets of Lahaina to Kaanapali and northward. Fairway Shops and Whalers Village now have groups of ten and more gathering to use drugs and to sell and buy them. Auto thefts are daily, with almost never an arrest. Even when police are provided photos and names of offenders. It is a sad day for Maui.
And that doesn’t include all the homeless that moved from Lahaina to Kihei. It’s a mess too.
As long as persons from this party are elected here, the “systems” for our state and counties will continue to decline.
detroit actually came back swinging. in last 10 years the downtown area has been conpletely revitalized and RE values are up all around there.