33 thoughts on “Vanishing Two-Across Seating. Flights To Hawaii. What To Do?”
David C
Dear BoH,
Have you or your readers had issues with trying to book seats on codeshare flights?
I booked Tokyo-Honolulu return tickets through Hawaiian Airlines and the outbound flight on Hawaiian was no issue.
However both Hawaiian and JAL (who operate the return flight under a codeshare agreement) tell me that the other party is responsible for seat reservations on the return leg.
I’ve spoken to both sides at least 3 times and also have written responses.
Any thoughts on how to make sense of this?
Thanks,
David
I couldn’t be more disappointed in Hawaiian Airlines to abandon the 2-4-2 seating as they upgrade to the 787. I made an all-in move to Hawaiian specifically for the 2-4-2 seating, signed up for their credit card, and have been consistently flying Hawaiian for our annual visit to Hawaii.
Dropping the 2-seat layout option is a deal braker to be honest. Time to move on even if it means a new vacation venue.
Hawaiian Airlines’ Boeing 767 was phased out years ago. For interisland travel there’s the Boeing 717. While appreciated, the suggestions made to avoid 3-3-3 seating configurations seem like a lot of work (and probably expense) to avoid the possibility of having a stranger seated next to you for a few hours. And then there’s always the chance someone will want your seat anyway and ask you if they can swap seats and have it.
Without knowing many costs associated, it is difficult for most of us to figure out what a premium economy cabin in 2-4-2 would would cost as opposed to the 3-3-3 section. On Hawaiian, up until late 2018 or early 2019, in addition to to the extra 5 inches of legroom there were a few other little perks, one being that IFE was free while regular economy paid a small fee. I really think Hawaiian and other carriers are missing an opportunity. They charge more now, add another $25 and begin to give customers a true premium economy experience.
I could fly nonstop to Maui ( from
Phx) but because of the 2-4-2 seating on Hawaiian I go with them.
When that isn’t an option then I’m definitely flying nonstop !
Dear BoH,
Have you or your readers had issues with trying to book seats on codeshare flights?
I booked Tokyo-Honolulu return tickets through Hawaiian Airlines and the outbound flight on Hawaiian was no issue.
However both Hawaiian and JAL (who operate the return flight under a codeshare agreement) tell me that the other party is responsible for seat reservations on the return leg.
I’ve spoken to both sides at least 3 times and also have written responses.
Any thoughts on how to make sense of this?
Thanks,
David
Hi David.
In our experience it is the carrier that’s actually operating the code share flight that is responsible for seat assignments.
Aloha.
I couldn’t be more disappointed in Hawaiian Airlines to abandon the 2-4-2 seating as they upgrade to the 787. I made an all-in move to Hawaiian specifically for the 2-4-2 seating, signed up for their credit card, and have been consistently flying Hawaiian for our annual visit to Hawaii.
Dropping the 2-seat layout option is a deal braker to be honest. Time to move on even if it means a new vacation venue.
Hawaiian Airlines’ Boeing 767 was phased out years ago. For interisland travel there’s the Boeing 717. While appreciated, the suggestions made to avoid 3-3-3 seating configurations seem like a lot of work (and probably expense) to avoid the possibility of having a stranger seated next to you for a few hours. And then there’s always the chance someone will want your seat anyway and ask you if they can swap seats and have it.
Without knowing many costs associated, it is difficult for most of us to figure out what a premium economy cabin in 2-4-2 would would cost as opposed to the 3-3-3 section. On Hawaiian, up until late 2018 or early 2019, in addition to to the extra 5 inches of legroom there were a few other little perks, one being that IFE was free while regular economy paid a small fee. I really think Hawaiian and other carriers are missing an opportunity. They charge more now, add another $25 and begin to give customers a true premium economy experience.
Delta still flies 2-3-2 767s to Hawaii…
There is a typo. Hawaiian has no more 767s…
Hi DM.
Thanks. That was supposed to read 787 and it has been corrected.
Aloha.
What ALL Airlines need to do is Stop All seats from reclining. No one wants the person in front of them in their lap!
Also, AA 777s are 3-4-3, not 3-3-3 in Economy.
Hi Dave.
Thanks. We corected that.
Aloha.
I could fly nonstop to Maui ( from
Phx) but because of the 2-4-2 seating on Hawaiian I go with them.
When that isn’t an option then I’m definitely flying nonstop !
Delta 767’s are 2-3-2 and their A330’s are 2-4-2.