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Would you be grateful if someone saved your life in Hawaii? Not everyone is.
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Over the years many of the beautiful areas traditionally enjoyed by residents have been purchased by wealthy individuals who then restrict access. Trespassing is certainly a serious issue, but one has to wonder what happens when only the wealthy have access to the areas once enjoyed by the local community. One of the greatest things about growing up is being able to explore your surrounding environment, not having to get in a car and driving miles to an overcrowded hiking trails. This really isn’t such a black and white issue.
Aloha,. Someone suggested signs with cost of rescue it should be noted on the signs that the cost is also putting rescuers lives at risk. Perhaps statistics like how many rescues have been done at site. Also I hate to say this but we have seen in society that no one seems to be held accountable anymore. Internet bloggers love to sell clicks about these beautiful places but fail in mentioning these spots are dangerous or restricted. Everyone should have to sign up on entering Hawaii they accept responsibility for their actions!
Yes, agree the violator should pay for those services if they are so unfortunate to require rescue. Their blatant disregard for their safety send first responders away from others who need services, especially now with the post pandemic staffing shortages. Auwe!
I believe the trespasser should be charged 100 percent. I am 80 years old and am so tired of paying for the stupid mistakes that individuals do, right down to getting pregnant and then needing us to feed and clothe them because they are not smart enough to use birth control. If you ever want to have Beat of Hawaii with an Aloha heart beat, instead of all the bashing of visitors, start making visitors or any purportrators (sp) pay for their own mistakes.
Just this past Thanksgiving, my family and I were on Oahu. One day we decided to go for a nature hike (my wife’s idea) so we went to one place in the Manoa valley, paid for the access and started our hike. My wife and daughter got to tired and stopped about 1/4 mile from the falls. I continued and got to the pool and falls. There was signage that told people not to enter the pool. Nope, there were lots of people standing in the water; climbing the falls and splashing around. I felt like yelling at them to get out.
Some people just don’t care about rules. There should be fines or fees for rescuing these entitled people and signage to show how much it cost, minimum of $5000 for first offense, maybe.
What a shame. These idiots that feel rules don’t apply to them are multiplying like rabbits. Not are they only endangering themselves but the lives of first responders as well(& the unappreciated locals). Our society, especially these younger generations simply have no respect for anyone nor anything. Not just the trespassing but total disregard of the islands beaches and the wildlife. We fell in love with Hawaii and are simply awestruck every visit. It’s an amazing privilege to just be able to visit. Like IZ sang in Hele On To Kaua’i …”The people there know they got it all”…”When I was young, not too smart I left my home, looking for a brand new start, To find a place that’s better still, Now I know, I know I never will.”
Aloha Rob and Jeff. Re: Bob B. The property owner would not be liable for a lawsuit because the violater was breaking the law.He chose to ignore the fence/gate,the padlock,and the sign. The barbwire is a definite visual sign that a violater is not welcome to enter.I was going to suggest jail, but that would fall on the taxpayers which isn’t fair just like the rescues are not their responsibility either.
Good luck on not being sued people will sue for anything, criminals injured while committing a crime sue the property owner and win, it really depends on which state/city the crime is committed in.
I was informed by a resident in one state all you have to do is post “NO Trespassing” signs on your property fence every 200 yrds. I personally know of a county where you just have to publish the NO Trespassing Information in the local newspaper for 30 days. I was also told and don’t know if true, that in either of these areas the property owner has the legal right to shoot the Trespasser.
When I was much younger working on a 1600-acre dairy, we dealt with trespassers frequently they were armed we never were.
Agree that all, including residents of the islands, should be fined and pay the cost of rescue when trespassing or entering a restricted area.
Signs do not stop any one willing to take the risk of a fine when entering a restricted area. Last week on BI I witnessed this over and over again where a sign clearly stated that the beach was closed to humans for turtle protection, yet people including locals net fishing entered the beach right next to to where the sign was posted.
I own commercial property that’s had trespassing issues from day one. No amount of barbed wire or fencing has been able to stop the problem.
The only full proof way of dealing with these issues is to turn Hawaii into a police state. Is that what you really want?
My take from this story is that all of Hawaii should become a National Park for all to enjoy. I have been to several of the places described before they were limited to locals only. When entitled Hawaiians go around those no trespassing signs and need to be rescued (don’t say it doesn’t happen) it doesn’t make the local news or biased articles like this.
So the solution is to eminent domain all of the islands and make it a national park so that everyone can enjoy All of the magnificence, not just the dwindling number of spot the local folk begrudgingly share.
Illegal trespassing is unlawful, a crime being committed in all honesty. And having to be rescued due to a person’s illegal activities punishable by law right? Paying for preventable and illegal excursions and placing first responders in jeopardy of losing their lives must have consequences.The state of Hawaii has every right to be reimbursed for the people who insist upon entering areas that are dangerous or beyond the scope of physical activities people can’t safety handle. Hitting people in their wallets sends a message understandable for even the most foolhardy will eventually understand. Stay safe.
Hit them in their wallets!
Pass the law. Towing and fines are international languages.
The story talks about legislative bills but what are (were) the numbers (HBxxx or SBxxx).
I believe the Hawaii legislature has ended 2022 sessions and not heard that passed any “Search and Rescue” bill.
I have no problem with making violators weather visitors or locals pay for their transgressions. A full fare helicopter rescue would probably mean a second mortgage.
As for raising airfares to $1000, that’s a two way street. Many islanders like to travel to the ninth island and I don’t see the airlines cutting special deals just for them.
A simple Med flight will run about $50,000 (mainland prices), ask me how I know, been there done that 3 times.
Let these idiots pay for their own stupidity! Period. Way too many of them here and acting like they deserve it. If they knowingly and willfully walk,jump,cross any designated private property, dangerous areas,,make them pay.!! And ban them from coming back.
Absolutely agree that those who ignore restricted area signs and end up having to be rescued by emergency personnel, they should not only pay 100% of the cost associated with emergency personnel but they should also slapped with a fine to boot!
Each no trespassing sign should include the cost of rescue from that area.
Aloha Jeff and Rob. I suggest zipper barb wire on top of all fences to keep people OUT of dangerous areas. I guarantee that would put an end to these “idiots”. If they succeed in getting over and need rescue, then charge them full price. That video showed how the wind currents were dangerous for the rescue copter. What do you think of my idea?
Hi Debra.
Interesting idea. Not sure if any of the no trespassing locations have that kind of wire or not. Also an interesting idea posted about listing the fine amount on the no trespassing sign.
Aloha.
Good idea but razor wire would leave the property owner open to a lawsuit. Regular barbed wire less so but also so less effective.
Again, Hawaii is not Disneyland! When one ignores signs and barricades, one is risking one’s life and therefore shall and will pay out of their own pocket if a rescue of said person(s) becomes a reality.
Mahalo (I think…)
I submitted a comment earlier & saw it “awaiting moderation” for a while, & now don’t see it. ?? It wasn’t an “off”
Comment, I simply agreed with most that these kind of incidents are a travesty, & endanger the lives of first responders often.
To borrow a phrase from one of our favorite Hawaii based TV shows “Bill ’em, Dano!”
Back country skiers have to pay for rescues. And they aren’t (mostly) acting negligent. Why should HI be any different? You trespass. You pay.
Why it has taken this long to hold trespassers accountable is beyond me. But we have tour guides who sell taking people down to the Wailua falls pool.outrageous! If you trespass and get hurt expect to pay, not the Hawaiian taxpayer. Doesn’t work in Disneyland shouldn’t work here either. Add a responsibility clause to the ag declaration. Goes for wildlife selfies too. Respect. Go home and act the fool.
These kind of incidents make me both sick, & furious. As one who truly loves Hawai’i, it’s people and the Aina, I’ve spent months on the islands. Trespassing is breaking the law, on vacation or not. Warning signs are to be heeded. To endanger oneself is stupid. To endanger first responders, helpful locals, etc.? Reprehensible. I like the idea of the insurance option, but if visitor breaks the law and gets in trouble, he/she should be fined big time if no insurance to cover their foolish expenses.
As a frequent visitor, I firmly believe that anyone trespassing or otherwise participating in behavior specifically forbidden – both visitors and guests – should be held financially responsible for the cost of their rescue. If you don’t want to follow the rules, fine, but the cost of your ignorance shouldn’t fall on the shoulders of Hawaii taxpayers.
It’s pretty easy. If you are trespassing, you are breaking the law. Therefore if you are dumb enough to get hurt, the cost of the rescue and recovery should be on you and you alone. Can’t pay? Well then you have a lein placed on any property you own. If we have learned anything (especially over the last 2 1/2 years) is that many people act like they are entitled and don’t need to abide by laws, rules or regulations. Start holding these numb nuts accountable and things will change. Also, if someone jumps over a fence like what happened at Akaka Falls and they slip, let them fall. It will help thin the herd
Last part of that comment was uncalled for. Shame on you.
Boo hoo
If trespassing requires a rescue I agree with a law to seek reimbursement. I do not agree with the more general law of disregard for safety…who decides? If I’m hiking and I twist my ankle or break it am I responsible because I wasn’t wearing hiking boots? This law is left too open for interpretation and would lead to problems down the road
I agree the trespasser should be financially responsible for any costs incurred for their rescue and treatment. Trouble will be collecting the funds, maybe put a lien on their property?
Many years ago when I was in EMS at Lake Tahoe we got a call for a “leg injury” on a slope leading up to Heavenly Valley Ski area. So we arrive on scene and see a person up an ice covered slope laying on the ground. So we grab a breakaway litter and med kit and hike up to him. So as I’m bandaging his knee which had bones protruding through the skin I asked him how he got injured. “Oh I hit that sign post with my leg”. I looked up read the sign and said you mean the one in VERY large letters “NO SNOW PLAY, NO TRESSPASSING?” He said, “oh yeah that’s it”.
I agree with Gerhard, today’s Hawaii airfares are way too low. What is it with the crazy airlines? It often costs less to fly to Hawaii today than it did 10 years ago.
I have a friend that wanted to book a round trip flight from Springfield , MO to Sacramento, CA
Cost? $1700 !!!
Old saying “No accounting for stupid”. HI should pass a law with big-time fines for rescues of those who put 1st responders’ lives in danger by trespassing, being stupid, etc. Make fines big enough so the perps will never, ever return. Talking to my son who’s visiting on Kauai now. He told me of the Queens Bath rescue. Last time I visited we witnessed visitors going through an unlocked (why) gate @ the Waimea Canyon Kalalau Overlook. That earth is soft from much rain & if they slipped they’d be falling for a LONG time.
Aloha Rob & Jeff!
Again, that ever increasing sense of entitlement we’re seeing everywhere–except that Hawaii has
so many more opportunities for this attitude to be illustrated in unflattering and dangerous ways.
I imagine rescues in Hawaii in the past 2-3 decades have increased and correspond to over-tourism.
I don’t recall hearing about nearly as many rescue operations when I used to visit Hawaii frequently in late 70s–late 90s.
Based on our 40+ years of ownership and use of a 2nd home on the Big Island, your analysis of visitor trespassing, idiocy and ingratitude is too limited. There have also been multiple rescues at the Volcano, for which reimbursement (to say nothing of gratitude) should be required.
To solve all those problems including over tourism, which I experienced recently, it is best to raise the air fares to $1000. Problem solved.
Wealthy people do stupid things also. Some seem a little on the arrogant side & feel entitled.
They have been $1000 for years; heading even higher
he totally has a point ruins it for the rest of us who love and respect the island state
How is that fair or right to the people who go to Hawaii and are respectful of the aina, the people and the culture?