101 thoughts on “As Heads Roll + No Hawaii Travel In Sight, Now What?”
Bill S
Wow, and I thought we had a mess in California. Hope someone takes charge soon, or as one comment said, we may not see travel well into 2021.
Take Care all
Aloha
Bill
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Bill.
Thanks.
Aloha.
Phillip
Like most of us on this site we cancelled our 2020 plans…at this point I have diminishing confidence that travel in 2021 would be realistic…hope for the best but Hawaiian government officials seem to be “slow walking” any reopening plans (are there any plans in the pipeline?) well into 2021…then it will take months for the island to ramp up and manage the new arrival restrictions (whatever they may be)…bottom-line, things look grim for Hawaii travel well into 2021…I hope I’m wrong and pray that the good people of Hawaii will survive this economic calamity. Aloha.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Phillip.
Thanks for your comments.
Aloha.
Pam P
Given that Hawaii has a huge percentage of the population supported by tourism – how have they been managing financially in general since most everything is shut down? I would imagine that there are a lot of people with bills building up, not much to do, and overwhelming frustration with no end in sight. The emotional toll must be so difficult…
Gene J
Here is the issue… shutting down does not work! It has been proven over and over again with this Covid19. Is there a state that didn’t have an ‘outbreak” after reopening? It’s a virus, it does exactly what all viruses do! Open up or deal with financial ruin… safeguard the elderly and those at risk and move on…open!
Renee C.
The lack of a clear plan and inconsistent execution will put the state of Hawaii back 50 years. The absurd and just stupid government decisions are just another example of how inept Hawaii’s leaders are
Paul C
the lack of a clear plan from the top is ruining our entire nation
Randy D
My son lives on Oahu. If I visit on 10/03 can I stay at his house for my 14 day quarantine?
Thanks for answers
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Randy.
Yes, you can quarantine at his house.
Aloha.
Debby J
As in Oklahoma? Big change from Hawaii.
Dayna R.
Aloha Jeff and Rob, and Mahalo for keeping us informed about the progress (or lack thereof) of tourism in Hawaii.
Unfortunately, until the airlines begin to take a greater interest in making sure air travel is safe, tourism anywhere
is risky for the general public. In order to ensure that someone is negative for the virus (nCOVID19), not only would
we need a negative test to enter Hawaii, but the airlines would need to demand that anyone entering the cabin has
proof that they are negative as well. No point in testing negative, then getting on a plane with even one COVID19 carrier.
Again, Mahalo for your time and information.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Dayna.
Thank you.
Aloha.
Cuz'n Bill
Blame the folks who are selfish and inconsiderate of the rest of us. You can pick them out of a crowd. No masks, no social distancing.
Rob M
Hawai’i is in trouble now, and it will get much worse if tourism doesn’t open up soon. Thanks to the idiots in charge Maui Memorial Hospital is the single biggest cluster of COVID on Maui. Tax revenues are way down but no government employees have been furloughed. Insane. There are COVID-trained bomb-sniffing dogs that are over 95% accurate even in people with no symptoms. Test everyone for COVID and send all infected to Oahu. Screen all incoming passengers. Maui, Kaui and Big Island become premium vacation destinations for all US citizens. Otherwise all of this State goes broke.
Joerg H
Great, idea, unfortunately COVID sniffing dogs aren’t ready for prime time yet. I think that the rapid tests that are begoming available might be a better solution for testing people as they arrive.
Dave R
Any source for that claim about COVID-sniffing dogs for people with no symptoms?
Here’s the reality:
First, a *few* dogs (very few, maybe a dozen or so) have actually been trained worldwide. But they do NOT detect COVID itself. The dogs recognize the smells that people with the illness make, not the virus itself, which doesn’t have a smell. As your body works to fight the virus, it releases what researchers call “volatile organic compounds”—and smells differ depending on the specific ailment. So if your body hasn’t yet ramped up to fight the disease, the dogs won’t detect it.
Second, it’s quite the process to train dogs to sniff out cases of COVID-19, and it’s basically impossible to do unless you have a research lab and considerable equipment at your disposal. To train dogs, researchers must first safely collect samples from people—their saliva, sweat, or urine—and test them for COVID-19. Then, researchers treat samples to render the virus inactive to make sure no dogs are exposed. Samples are then placed in special containers for the dog to sniff. (Source: Slate, Aug. 6. No big breakthroughs have been reported since then).
So no, there aren’t many dogs available and no, they can’t just smell people as they get off the plane and have any chance at all of high accuracy.
People are really getting desperate looking for magic bullets and the sad fact is that there aren’t any.
Jeanne M.
My husband volunteered to come as an RN when the word came out more help was needed. We come from NY LI, where virus rates are low.
We never received a call to come and help. FyI.
And we have come annually anyway for 30 years, so this was by no means a way to vacation in Hawaii. It was a gesture of help and support for the locals who have been fabulous to us for years.
No call!
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Wow, and I thought we had a mess in California. Hope someone takes charge soon, or as one comment said, we may not see travel well into 2021.
Take Care all
Aloha
Bill
Hi Bill.
Thanks.
Aloha.
Like most of us on this site we cancelled our 2020 plans…at this point I have diminishing confidence that travel in 2021 would be realistic…hope for the best but Hawaiian government officials seem to be “slow walking” any reopening plans (are there any plans in the pipeline?) well into 2021…then it will take months for the island to ramp up and manage the new arrival restrictions (whatever they may be)…bottom-line, things look grim for Hawaii travel well into 2021…I hope I’m wrong and pray that the good people of Hawaii will survive this economic calamity. Aloha.
Hi Phillip.
Thanks for your comments.
Aloha.
Given that Hawaii has a huge percentage of the population supported by tourism – how have they been managing financially in general since most everything is shut down? I would imagine that there are a lot of people with bills building up, not much to do, and overwhelming frustration with no end in sight. The emotional toll must be so difficult…
Here is the issue… shutting down does not work! It has been proven over and over again with this Covid19. Is there a state that didn’t have an ‘outbreak” after reopening? It’s a virus, it does exactly what all viruses do! Open up or deal with financial ruin… safeguard the elderly and those at risk and move on…open!
The lack of a clear plan and inconsistent execution will put the state of Hawaii back 50 years. The absurd and just stupid government decisions are just another example of how inept Hawaii’s leaders are
the lack of a clear plan from the top is ruining our entire nation
My son lives on Oahu. If I visit on 10/03 can I stay at his house for my 14 day quarantine?
Thanks for answers
Hi Randy.
Yes, you can quarantine at his house.
Aloha.
As in Oklahoma? Big change from Hawaii.
Aloha Jeff and Rob, and Mahalo for keeping us informed about the progress (or lack thereof) of tourism in Hawaii.
Unfortunately, until the airlines begin to take a greater interest in making sure air travel is safe, tourism anywhere
is risky for the general public. In order to ensure that someone is negative for the virus (nCOVID19), not only would
we need a negative test to enter Hawaii, but the airlines would need to demand that anyone entering the cabin has
proof that they are negative as well. No point in testing negative, then getting on a plane with even one COVID19 carrier.
Again, Mahalo for your time and information.
Hi Dayna.
Thank you.
Aloha.
Blame the folks who are selfish and inconsiderate of the rest of us. You can pick them out of a crowd. No masks, no social distancing.
Hawai’i is in trouble now, and it will get much worse if tourism doesn’t open up soon. Thanks to the idiots in charge Maui Memorial Hospital is the single biggest cluster of COVID on Maui. Tax revenues are way down but no government employees have been furloughed. Insane. There are COVID-trained bomb-sniffing dogs that are over 95% accurate even in people with no symptoms. Test everyone for COVID and send all infected to Oahu. Screen all incoming passengers. Maui, Kaui and Big Island become premium vacation destinations for all US citizens. Otherwise all of this State goes broke.
Great, idea, unfortunately COVID sniffing dogs aren’t ready for prime time yet. I think that the rapid tests that are begoming available might be a better solution for testing people as they arrive.
Any source for that claim about COVID-sniffing dogs for people with no symptoms?
Here’s the reality:
First, a *few* dogs (very few, maybe a dozen or so) have actually been trained worldwide. But they do NOT detect COVID itself. The dogs recognize the smells that people with the illness make, not the virus itself, which doesn’t have a smell. As your body works to fight the virus, it releases what researchers call “volatile organic compounds”—and smells differ depending on the specific ailment. So if your body hasn’t yet ramped up to fight the disease, the dogs won’t detect it.
Second, it’s quite the process to train dogs to sniff out cases of COVID-19, and it’s basically impossible to do unless you have a research lab and considerable equipment at your disposal. To train dogs, researchers must first safely collect samples from people—their saliva, sweat, or urine—and test them for COVID-19. Then, researchers treat samples to render the virus inactive to make sure no dogs are exposed. Samples are then placed in special containers for the dog to sniff. (Source: Slate, Aug. 6. No big breakthroughs have been reported since then).
So no, there aren’t many dogs available and no, they can’t just smell people as they get off the plane and have any chance at all of high accuracy.
People are really getting desperate looking for magic bullets and the sad fact is that there aren’t any.
My husband volunteered to come as an RN when the word came out more help was needed. We come from NY LI, where virus rates are low.
We never received a call to come and help. FyI.
And we have come annually anyway for 30 years, so this was by no means a way to vacation in Hawaii. It was a gesture of help and support for the locals who have been fabulous to us for years.
No call!