Beat of Hawaii editors had the opportunity to fly three times recently on new planes Delta received from Airbus late last year. It would have been stellar if we had written our review after the first flight. But Delta botched it with how they handled the next two flights, which were somewhat new lows in Hawaii air travel for us.
The plane we flew is their new A321neo narrow-body. This is primarily the replacement for other planes Delta previously used for Hawaii, including the old Boeing 757. It is the only single aisle plane Delta flies to Hawaii, so unless you catch a widebody from one of their further afield cities, this review is on the plane you will be traveling on.
We had the opportunity to fly three times on the aircraft; the first segment was in their first class, the second was in economy, and the third segment was again in their first class. The results were surprising even to us, as these reviews frequently are.
Note: We paid for our own way on each of these flights, as is always the case.
Delta A321neo economy review (75/80).
The economy segment was from Nashville to Seattle where we connected to their Lihue flight. That flight was 3.5 hours in duration.
Check-in online (10/10) . This worked perfectly and the Delta app was robust and easy to use.
Airport check-in (10/10): We used the outdoor porter in Nashville when checking in and again, it was flawless and let us skip what looked like a significant line indoors.
Baggage handling (10/10): The baggage handling notification works great on the Delta app. They text you when your luggage has been loaded on the plane and removed. Getting the luggage on the plane was great, but as you’ll see below, getting it off was another matter.
Boarding (10/10): The process was orderly and problem-free. The agents were fast and professional. And since we paid for extra legroom, we were in one of the early boarding groups.
Seating (8/10): We were in the first row of what Delta calls extra comfort, row 10. There are 42 such seats. There is no difference in the seats other than the additional legroom. There are 132 economy seats in a 3-3 configuration. While on board, Jeff tried a regular economy seat to contrast the big difference in legroom.
Rob on the other hand who is tall, found it hard to work from his seat. Because it was bulkhead, the tray table was in the armrest. When he lifted it into position, the tray table was neither level nor wide enough for his small laptop and the tray did not extend forward for him to see what was on his screen.
Service on-board (8/10). Nothing stood out, either good or bad, regarding the service provided or the flight attendants.
Food and beverage (9/10): We were provided drinks and minimal snacks (chip/cookie choice). Several rounds of beverages were offered.
Wi-Fi/Entertainment (10/10). The free WiFi started working while we were still at the gate. It was slightly tricky to figure it out, but once we did, it worked fine. So that you know, this was our connecting flight leading to the flight to Hawaii. When you read the next flight segment, you’ll see that WiFi still needs to be fixed on the Delta A321neo flights to Hawaii. The entertainment is on seat-back screens with Bluetooth connectivity.
Delta A321neo first class reviews – two flights (62/80).
We had two experiences recently in First Class. Once was in May when we flew from Seattle to Lihue when returning from the United Kingdom where we reflected on the British influence on Hawaii during the coronation. The next flight was also from Seattle to Lihue. This one was in June, and our connecting flight from Nashville.
Check-in online (10/10). On our first flight, that went great. On our second flight, since we’d already checked in for the connecting flight, there was no additional check-in.
Airport check-in (10/10): In Seattle we reclaimed our luggage from another airline’s international flight and then went to the Delta check-in counter. Since we were in first class, there was no wait. On the next trip from Nashville, the luggage was transferred since we were flying Delta all the way.
Lounge access (no rating): Delta does not provide lounge access, even for paid domestic first-class passengers like we were. That is available only for their lounge members or if you have one of the qualifying Delta American Express or Centurion cards.
Baggage handling (8/10): Good and bad experiences here. The baggage handling notification works well on the Delta app, with notifications of when the luggage is taken from you, when it is on-boarded to the aircraft, and when it is removed from the plane. Having lost luggage on Delta previously, it was very reassuring to get these notifications.
Unfortunately, when our first flight arrived at Lihue, Kauai, there was more than 40 minutes delay before the bags were delivered. If you have ever flown into Lihue, you’ll wonder why it was delayed at a small airport as we did. Delta did provide an immediate 2,500 point credit for the delay, although we’d have preferred to have gotten our luggage timely than receive the points. When we flew their flight in June, the luggage was released timely.
Boarding (7/10): The first flight was organized, professional and timely. The second flight, however, the process could have been far better. The only announcement was for pre-boarding. After that, nothing was announced, and while those in the separate first-class line boarded early, it became a free-for-all, and everyone rushed forward to the boarding door.
Seating (9/10): We were both seated in the second row of the plane. The twenty new Recaro-brand first-class seats, in a 2-2 configuration, are, for a narrow-body aircraft, the nicest we’ve experienced in all but one way. The cushioning is, for the most part, adequate, so it doesn’t feel like you’re sitting on a board. The location of the power and USB outlets is convenient, and there’s a handy storage nook on the side of the seat. Recline is adequate, and the comfort is surprisingly good. We also liked the privacy provided by the wing headrests.
Now for what we don’t like enough to show you a photo of it. Due largely to the seat design the amount of space provided for the window passenger to get out is only 9 inches, or the width of Rob’s hand. Jeff was in the window seat and he is rather tall and thin. So it wasn’t a severe problem, albeit weird. For anyone larger, this could present a real problem both getting into and out of the window seat. We’ve not encountered such a strange issue on any plane in any class.
Service on-board (7/10): The service was, to say the least, uninspired. Our flight attendant’s name was Eisha, and the lead attendant was Dylan. When taking pre-departure drink orders, Eisha completely overlooked some passengers, including us, while serving some passengers. They never introduce themselves or called passengers by name, which again, in first class, is a nice and frequent touch-point. Both provided the required modicum of service and nothing more. If you wanted water, you needed to keep calling them over. Strangely too, Dylan told passengers in the 1st row to watch out for people getting locked in the forward lavatory. He said it has a magnetic lock that sometimes will lock itself with someone stuck inside. Dylan suggested that the people keep an eye out for anyone who appears to have been in the lavatory too long.
The first flight was great in terms of greeting. The second flight was entirely different. While we don’t expect to be greeted in economy, we do when paying extra for first class, where that is a long-standing tradition on all airlines. There was no greeting at all. In fact, there was no flight attendant to be seen at the entrance or in first-class at all. In all of our years flying, that’s the first time it’s happened.
Honestly, the economy service on other airlines we’ve recently reviewed was superior to even the first-class service on the second Delta flight. That in spite of a great hard product. The flight attendants were so much worse than what we’ve experienced on Alaska Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines, and Southwest Airlines, and that was both surprising and disappointing. We admit this is highly subjective. On a prior flight on the same route, the first-class flight attendant, whose name was coincidentally Jeff, provided superb service throughout the flight. He was exemplary of good airline service. The lack of consistency, however, remains concerning, and will definitely impact our own future use of Delta Hawaii flights.
Food/Beverage (5/10): Having already experienced Delta’s sub-par first-class food on a prior A321neo Hawaii flight (pictured below), we opted to pre-select meals. No menus are provided, and since there is no WiFi, the flight attendant took a screenshot of the menu and passed around his cell phone. Pre-select special meals are to us somewhat better than the in-flight options that Delta provides. Their standard food choices, typically three, are highly-caloric and dated. They are, as editor Jeff said, something akin to “old-fashioned diner food” in a mediocre restaurant. We’d suggest they take a lesson from Alaska Airlines, that is a standout when it comes to airline food. This is, overall, an area where huge improvement is possible for Delta. In addition, Delta offered no pre-ordering of regular meals for the A321neo flights to Hawaii.
In the photo above, you’ll see that the flight attendants did not know how to serve the meal. They should have emptied those containers onto the plate before serving us. We think they needed to understand better how the entree was to look on the plate; so they gave us the metal and paper containers instead to deal with. More training on first-class service is our suggestion.
Wi-Fi/Entertainment (6/10). As stated above, the free WiFi still needs to be fixed between the U.S. mainland and Hawaii on the A321neo fleet. That is said to be from a lack of satellite coverage on the WiFi system used on that fleet. The other aircraft Delta uses to Hawaii has a different WiFi system, and that does work to and from Hawaii.
The entertainment is provided in first class with a lovely articulating screen with Bluetooth connectivity for wireless headsets. Nice touch. The entertainment options themselves are vast and impressive. The “Delta Studio” says it offers “1,000+ hours of free entertainment. Some of that, however, like their ” including up to 18 channels of live satellite TV,” aren’t yet available due to the lack of connectivity on the A321neo fleet over the Pacific.
Delta does not tell passengers that there is no WiFi on their Hawaii (A321neo) flights. That offering may or may not be coming to those flights later this summer. But Delta has made clear that free WiFi is a universal domestic offering and thus it is an intrinsic part of Delta’s contract with its customers.
Summary: Delta has a great hard product (the seats, new plane, and fresh cabin’s appearance). However, the soft product, which is incredibly important in any airline’s premium offerings, is not nearly as good or as consistent and could be far better. In addition, Delta is a technology-forward company that scores highly in entertainment, WiFi (when it works), baggage handling/notifications, and its app.
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Flew American A321neo since Lihue cant handle bigger planes. It is not comfortable at all. Flew DFW to LAX. LAX is a terrible airport. Luckily OGG can handle big planes as we get the wonderful 787 direct. Much better plane and product. Will be on island in Sept. Aloha nui loa.
Your comment about the discrepant level of service on-board your 2 flights in the front cabin does not surprise me.
I have long held the belief that service on-board varies depending on the senior flight attendant. I can speak only about UA and HA. On a morning UA flight SFO/HNL, we were offered a pre-takeoff beverage. On the return flight HNL/SFO on UA several days later, the flight attendants stood around but no effort to offer a beverage before takeoff. Both flights were on widebody planes. From our experience on HA, meal service also varies. On some HNL/SFO flights, the entire meal, including dessert, is brought out at once. On other flights, the flight attendant serves dessert after clearing your meal tray. On rare occasions, at the close of meal service, the beverage cart is wheeled around containing a selection of after dinner drinks, including coffee. All flights were on wide body planes.
When I flew to Salt Lake City on Delta roundtrip in May, I flew (unwittingly) 1st Class on a DeltaOne route (there are only 5). Wide-body, extremely comfortable, great food, and comped Sky Lounge prior to boarding. Unknowingly I booked roundtrip 1st Class on Delta again in July to LA: not a DeltaOne route! My Hawaii to LA segment in seat 5A on an A321Neo was absolutely the most uncomfortable aircraft seat I’ve ever flown in, and my first experience was on a 12-hour flight on the USS Mars out of Keehi Lagoon in 1951! I’ve even flown right-seat for many years in a Cessna 150 . . . even these seats were more comfortable than 5A on the A321! Oh, and let’s not forget the oversize packet with blanket and pillow and absolutely no place to stow with no way to access the overhead bin from the window seat without disturbing the passenger in the aisle seat.
Otherwise, I completely agree with the BOH editors that the flight service, food, and beverage were deplorable! Oh, and it would have been nice if some instruction (a one-page plastic How-To?)on where and how to use seat amenities was provided in the absence of adequate flight service.
Fortunately for me, my return flight was the tail-end of a SLC to Hawaii DeltaOne segment on a comfortable wide-body . . . but my pre-ordered chicken Caesar salad was totally unpalatable! Ditto the sides! The service, however, was impeccable. Mahalo to the cabin attendants.
The picture at the beginning is not a A321… It’s an A220.
That is most certainly an Airbus A321
I am flying American on Neo and very concerned as we dont have money for upgrades and I am 6’2 tall woman. I have a window seat and sounds like its gonna be a bear for the long long flight to ogg. I just cant add 100 $more to the trip. That would be a good grocery shopping day. I’m glad the planes help to save fuel for the world, but the misery for it is a tough one to swallow. If anyone has recommendations on better main seats, please post.
Just flew R/T on the Delta A321neo. Waste of money. The room to the seat in front was almost claustrophobic. On the first trans-Pacific flight they owned up to the neo not having wifi for the flight and on the second, they said something like “as you know, there is no wifi available over the Pacific”. Service on our domestic leg, SEA-IAD was superb, otherwise not memorable. Don’t plan to fly them again on this route.
Picture is of an A220.
Thank you for your comprehensive reviews on the Delta flights. These days we’re used to mediocre service on planes, but, when it comes to first class, that’s another thing. Back in the day, Airlines would assign their most seasoned attendants to serve in first. You would be greeted by name and certainly there would someone to greet you at the doorway. No excuses. A pre flight beverage would also be offered.
Mahalo!
Hi Maleka.
Thanks. We’re glad the reviews were useful!
Aloha.
The new A321 Neo is a Much quieter aircraft than the old 757… but the first class seats are hard as rocks.
Hi Reid.
This is of course the same plane that both American and Hawaiian use. And yes it is much quieter than the 757 that it replaced at both American and Delta.
Aloha.
Hi Guys
Our A321 flight on Delta last week from LAX to Lihue was a reasonable OK “plain vanilla” as Delta goes. Full disclosure: I am a Lifetime Gold Medallion just short of 4-million miles and looking forward to Lifetime Platinum. Thus, I am a Western Airlines “leftover”.
We also enjoyed the new rooftop LAX Sky Club since we both are Lifetime Sky Club Executive members that were acquired as a Delta perk when DL acquired Western Airlines. Service in Comfort Class was acceptable. The only downside is that the 321s are not yet equipped with wi-fi even though Preflight emails touted that service. Let’s hope Delta works out the glitches!
Jim E, Santa Barbara
Excellent review. Thanks!
Thank you for the great review. You definitely covered all the bases, and, as usual, with accurate, unbiased reporting.
Great info. We are flying next Febuary to Kona on American on their 321neo. Any idea on their wifi service?
Hi Ken.
Thanks. We aren’t sure about those flights, but hopefully someone else can give us a hand. We have both United Airlines and American Airlines flights to Hawaii and reviews coming up soon. United reviews start in fact next month.
Aloha.
If you are flying on a 321neo from phx or lax, the wifi will cut out past conus
I tend to agree…its the personnel. flew first class round to Detroit from sac, so yes connection. sometimes service great. other times adequate I probably wouldn’t fly them to hnl or liz etc
thanks for your reviews
Mary m
Hi Mary.
Thank you! It’s been ten years since you started commenting on Beat of Hawaii. Wow. We are most appreciative.
Aloha.
Would love for Hawaiian airlines to add flights from Atlanta to honolulu direct, current there are e only from New York and Boston. Flights from Orlando have been suspended.
Hawaiaan would gain high profits from this sector.
MIriam