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Today’s heaflines;
“Current COVID vaccines could be ineffective by next year”
This is not news. Its already been stated since the beginning that the vaccine could need to be a yearly booster like the flu shot. And creating these vaccines in the early onset of the illness, there are always mutations and factors that need to be taken in as time moves forward and scientists understand more.
My friend is a pharmacist in research for drug companies- he says a booster is needed every 4 months…Ps my friends healthy 89 year old mom died of a massive stroke within 48 hours of Covid vaccine & my sister’s best friend’s daughter miscarried her 7 month baby within 24 hours of Covid vaccine …less than 1% of side effects for any vaccine are reported. See data at CDC or vaccine injury US gov. Website.
Science 101 … correlation does not necessarily imply causality. It suggests avenues of exploration, but your post suggests a causal relationship that has not been proven. Obviously, your intent is to frighten people and prevent them from taking the vaccine.
Joerg H,
While your response is intended to frighten people into taking the vaccine. People have a mind. They can disseminate information and decide for themselves, if it is right for them or not! Everyone does not have to agree with your conclusions!
Ed,
I think you missed my point. This whole idea of people “making up their own minds”, and “getting their own information” has led to a lot of misinformation leading to wrong conclusions. There’s a reason that there are Dr’s that specialize in infectious diseases and people who have degrees in Public Health. If anyone could “figure it out for themselves” we wouldn’t need those folks. Bottom line is that I’m not trying to scare anyone into taking the vaccine, or NOT taking the vaccine. What I am trying to do is point out the fact that folks like you are using unscientific methods to come to incorrect conclusions (see my post where I talk about correlation not implying causality). Even that’s OK with me. If you decide that some fat teenager sitting in his mother’s basement sucking on a big gulp is a better source of information than the CDC, and based on that you decide to not take the vaccine sure, go ahead, that’s up to you. Where I have a problem is then you post that kind of misinformation on a site like this in an obvious attempt to scare people away from taking a potentially life-saving vaccine. Personally, I’ve been vaccinated, and am looking forward to my trip to Hawaii this summer, where I, and I suspect the rest of the folks in Hawaii, won’t miss folks like you.
Amen
Well Joerg H, I won’t miss you either. Nothing the CDC has done is supported by science. Wear a mask! Don’t wear a mask! Wear a double mask! I live in Florida and our so-called covid rate is not out of line for our population, when compared to States that have locked down and basically ruined people lives and livelihood! You, or the cdc, can not prove to me, or anyone else that the vaccine is effective, or that you can’t still get it, or pass ir on to others after you have it! Prove me wrong!
Do you have any updated information on children traveling to Hawaii? There currently isn’t a vaccine for them
Vaccination travel passports are illegal in this country.
Besides, the shots you are getting are not vaccines.
Why do I say that?
Because there isn’t a shred of Covid viral matter in the shot ingredients, and that’s what defines a vaccine. There must be viral material in the shot, That’s how your immune system builds up the antibodies to defend your body from the virus at a later date.
Now, if it were in fact a vaccine, then why do you have to continue to wear a face mask, social distance, wash your hands, and the usual hygiene protocols.
These shots that are being given to you human guinea pigs without informed consent are using experimental human genome altering mRNA technology using the CRYSPR techniques. CRYSPR is used in gene research and DNA manipulation techniques to split the DNA sequence to allow another fake gene to be inserted or to remove out a specific gene or set of genes. Do you really want to be a test subject for this transhumanistic program?
Remember, that the Nuremberg Trials sentenced to death and some to a lifetime in prison for doing research like this on their human prisoners. Now you’re allowing yourself to be a human test subject of your own free will. You have been gaslighted. And that’s a sad thing.
The Hawaii tourist industry will continue to hurt and not get back to the greatness that it once was until the state fully opens up travel without restrictions, passports or shots.
Covid-19 is not what you’ve been told it is.
It is a hearty form of the common cold, as we all have Covid viruses in our bodies already, it’s just that there are times when the virus gets out of hand.
Whatever happened to the flu numbers?
Greg K. You are definitely onto something. They allow just
enough negative information out to cover “informed consent”. Its pretty sick.
None of this is factual. You also didn’t spell CRISPR correctly. Do not spread false information during this time on this website. I hope that those who run this site will remove your comment.
Thanks,
Your friendly Microbiology PhD
TO: J L
So I guess you are now the Grammar police? Who are you to tell someone that they should have their comment removed from the site? Give us a rest. Just because you claim to be a Microbiologist, doesn’t make you one! Why don’t you quit spreading misinformation. Covid is just one more man made Chemical that was released from a Lab in Wuhan and intentionally, sent to the World. Greg K. is correct to ask: “Whatever happened to the flu numbers?”
Stop trying to be the man on here. It isn’t working!
Who said you could be the spelling police?
You know I’m right but won’t admit it that I’m right.
Right on Greg. Even is you misspelled a word, you’ve got the big picture!!!
Greg K,
It’s okay for the tourism industry be hurt and never fully recover – we’re okay with this. 10 million (plus) tourists a year is NOT greatness. It’s unlivable. Let’s never go back to this, ever.
Johnny B: Without a robust tourist industry, Hawaii will be taken over by the Hawaiian Heritage Movement, and that will be disastrous for the wonderful people of Hawaii, including my family who has lived on Kauai since the 1890s when the Portugues missionaries and plantation managers were coming over in the sailing ships. Yes, the US military provides a lot of income to the state, but the tourist industry is the big kahuna. Otherwise, the state will make the growing and selling of marijuana legal, and then that industry will take over. Oahu will be covered in a shroud of smoke. And I’m not talking about the burning of excess sugarcane or pineapple plants. 😂
My friend is a pharmacist in research for drug companies- he says a booster is needed every 4 months…Ps my friends healthy 89 year old mom died of a massive stroke within 48 hours of Covid vaccine & my sister’s best friend’s daughter miscarried her 7 month baby within 24 hours of Covid vaccine …less than 1% of side effects for any vaccine are reported. See data at CDC or vaccine injury US gov. Website.
I’m not sure how they are going to build a National vaccination database since pharmacists are not required to record the names of the people they vaccinate. They record numbers but not names- I just checked with the pharmacy.
I also think the problem of forged CDC cards for travel
Is overblown- just my opinion. We travel in June- hope Gov. Ige can make up his mind before then. If not, we’ll test, but we won’t like the expense!
Thanks for your prompt updates on these issues.
Hi Lee.
Thanks for your input on vaccine travel.
Aloha.
So if we are Vaccinated are we still required to download a covid test before vacation which we will be coming April 16th?
Yes
We’re still on track for our April 21st trip and will be happy to get a COVID-19 NAAT test (Walgreens) on April 19 (72 hours before our final departure on 4/22). We had our 2nd COVID Vaccine (Pfizer) today and feeling great!! We will do WHATEVER it takes to fly to Paradise! This will probably be our last trip to Hawaii (we’re getting older) and want to make it our best one yet. For those who are refusing to follow the science, you are welcomed to stay home, or vacation in Florida, where they don’t care if you get sick and die from the virus!
Mahalo to BOH for keeping us Mainlanders up-to-date.
Hi Steven.
Thanks. Glad you are heading this way later this month! We appreciate your 50 comments to date.
Aloha.
Couldn’t agree more. We are scheduled to come in August, and I’m just waiting patiently to see how it all shakes out by then. Just got my first Pfizer shot, and should get the second on 5/2. But whatever the requirements are in August, that’s what I’ll do. I don’t get why people make such a big deal about this, it’s not the end of the world to get a test, or a shot, or whatever. Thanks to BOH for keeping us up to date on the latest developments, I’ll be following carefully in the coming months to see what we need to do. Oh, and ignoring all the armchair quarterbacks that have an opinion on vaccines, tests, the economy in Hawaii, etc.
Hi Joerg.
Thanks. Glad you can head to Hawaii this summer. We appreciate your 70 comments to date.
Aloha.
You’re a jerk…we all have our own minds and can make our own decisions!!!!!!!!! Thanks
One of the main concerns about vaccination cards remains the possibility of forged cards. This is a real issue.
I’ll take my chances with a card risk vs. having my personal information and health data hacked by some third world (or China, Russia, Iran, NorKo) thug.
I’ve lost track. Is this season two or three of the comical soap opera call As the Hawaiian Economy Burns?
What a joke of a governor and government.
Has there been any indication what will become of that 3 month cutoff for people who have been vaccinated if and when a travel card or passport becomes available? Also, if the US does not adopt a vaccine passport will it be legal for Hawaii to require one ? Sure would be nice if just once the Gov. would cover more of the common concerns and questions people have when giving an update. It would certainly make pushing the “purchase” button on airline tickets much less stressful.
The leadership by the President would certainly aid the adoption of standards for recognition of tests, vaccinations status and medical fitness to travel however the 9th and 10th amendments to the Constitution as held by SCOTUS do not require Federal Rules in the field of Health and Safety of Citizens and specifically allow States to retain those rights and duties not expressly restricted to and governed by the Federal Government. Indeed attending to the health and welfare of those citizens in a state is a duty of the State Government.
Whilst the President is reticent to commit to any specific proposal and the Governor is also. playing a very political game it should be recognized that the political fall out of some folks losing their vacation of choice would be far less than a decision which led to multiple directly attributable fatalities, hence no one wants to put a stake in the ground. This has been exacerbated by the Democrats and Republicans Politicizing Covid as they did with the border. The President now finds himself in difficulties over the border through policies adopted, he will rightly be very cautious of taking actions on Covid 2 and the pandemic which could hand ammunition to his opponents, be they in the opposition party or within his own. Does not help us travelers though.
Still I think we are through the worst of it and assuming vaccination levels it 70-80% we could return to a distanced form of normality by the summer. Christmas was very quiet but things are really picking up in the islands so with a bit of luck, people will get jobs again, the state will start to get tax revenues and we can all return hopefully a bit wiser and a bit kinder then before.