With a chilling video. Two events yesterday raised new concerns about Hawaii air rage.
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This is ridiculous. There should be an international registry of all airlines of passengers who have been barred from flying on an airline. They are a danger to everyone on a plane. And they should be banned, for life. Period
The flight crews should never have to deal with the mask issues. Unfortunately, all those in DC who mandate mask wearing, refuse to follow their own rules. We see the rich and famous, politicians, all of them, party maskless. Governors going to weddings, rock concerts, restaurants and sending kids to private schools w/no mask policies while lying about it, ( to us here in California), There is no excuse for misbehavior on flights, but Americans are fed up with the hypocrisy and frankly, questionable science surrounding masks.
Aloha, I have been wondering why it has taken so long for the airline industry to get together and ban anyone from flying with this type of behavior on any airline. If it’s a medical issues that determination can change the end result, that’s my thought anyway.
Thank you
I haven’t flown really since these incidents have begun. It is unacceptable and inexcusable behavior. Fines should be increased and enforced. Disruptors should be on no fly lists that airlines should share. I think tolerance should be given to young children (under age 10????), because they do cry and will fuss on such a long flight. I’ve read stories where parents were escorted off the plane because of two year olds having trouble masking.
All airports, especially at the gates should have warnings in bold signage that disruptive behavior will result in removal from the plane (with no reimbursement), fines and if really bad (assault is never acceptable) jail time.
It’s still a pandemic, COVID is spear by droplets; children should be required to wear masks. If they can’t then they shouldn’t be flying.
The pilot of our SWA flight read everyone the riot act over a loudspeaker before we boarded this past Wednesday 23rd. That was LIH airport around 2:00 pm, the same day as the two HA incidents. Probably not a coincidence!
Our flight was nearly empty and very quiet. The flight attendants mostly sat in their seats and read stuff from what I observed. There’s very little in flight service, so they had nothing much to do to occupy their time on a 4+ hour flight.
I can’t speak for all, but it’s very uncomfortable for me (and I am not alone) to wear a mask for many hours in a row. Except when flying, I normally only have to wear one for a few minutes at a time, maybe once or twice a day (e.g., walking in and out of a restaurant or store visits. People like me (I am not alone) figure out how to sip or nibble on something off and on throughout the flight to make it more bearable. I bring a bag of pistachios, and can nurse a can of soda at least two hours. I was never nagged/scolded by any flight attendant who happened by when I did not have it on. There were several rows of empty seats around us, FWIW.
No matter how pointless you may believe the rule to be, there is no reason/justification to get nasty at flight attendants, or restaurant workers, or anyone else stuck being the mask Karen. They don’t make the rules, and most of them do not enjoy being mask/vaccine enforcers. IMO, people behaving poorly, rudely and violently is a sign of our times.
Yes all of this is the sign of The Times for sure
If you disrupt the safety of all the other passengers and crew, and there is typically plenty of video evidence, it shouldn’t be a slap on the wrist. Absolutely share the no-fly lists, or put them on a national registry. That should have been automatic. 10 years without so much as a parking ticket before you can apply to be taken off the list. I don’t know what the current penalties are, but they should start at $50k AND 5 years. There should be zero tolerance. And bite the concessionaire’s complaint bullet and halt alcohol sales in the airport and on planes. They are the ones apparently overserving. For those that drink responsibly, yes, they are being punished for other’s bad behavior, but the safety of the rest of us shouldn’t be less important than someone’s mai tai.
And the next time you fly somewhere, anywhere, thank the flight attendants for keeping you safe. And the gate agents, and the sky caps, and the people at the check-in counter for making your trip possible. I’d bet my own money they don’t get the thanks and appreciation they deserve.
Mahalo Jeff and Rob! I want to apologize to all airline service providers for all they’re going through to help us all get where we’re going.
I cannot imagine how terrifying that would be.
Whatever the reason this guy did what he did, he should be grounded for TWO LIFETIMES!!
I’m so sick of people abusing others.
I have a couple of suggestions.
#1 Compact cattle prod
#2 Duct tape
Just sayin.
As a person who actually had to grab onto an electric fence to make sure it was working, the cattle prod works the same way.
After applying #1, carefully wrap with #2.
Repeat as necessary.
Aloha Beat of Hawaii, until we meet again. Stay safe.
Hi Pam.
Good to have you here again, and hope to see you again soon. Until then, our best regards.
Aloha.
I like the idea of a national “NO fly” list. Just hope it works better than the national
“do not call list”.
Absolutely the violence on airplanes IA affecting service. I have flown to/from/ and between the Hawaiian Islands several times in the last two months. Flight attendants are making as few trips down the plane as possible.
I got 1 cup of coffee during a 5 hour flight.
I do think things might be a bit smoother if the crew didn’t announce 3 times that we should reposition the mask between “bites and sips”.
That is no excuse for the terrible behavior of bad passengers.
I think sharing banned passengers lists is a good idea. We don’t need these brutes on our flights. No alcohol also curbs stupid behavior. Finally arrest more of these criminals.. Perp walk them through the airport and publically imbarras them as much as possible before jailing and fining them heavily. Maybe delayed passengers can sue these offenders for lost time. Money and endangerment..
Then maybe the crew can provide the service they are trained to give to the 99.9% of passengers who know how to behave civilly.
I really hope these violent people will be placed on a National no fly list. They need to learn how to behave and live in a polite society.
This makes me sad. Why can’t everyone just be kind to each other, we’re in this together.
So you had covid and list a family member? If not, you are not in this with me…