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Hawaii Airport Grief, Runway Holds, Unending Delays | All For This?

We keep wondering what is going on with delays on Hawaii flights and when it will finally improve. This Sunday at Honolulu Airport, your editors found themselves there while well over 100 flights were delayed once again, as detailed below. In addition, there were 42 delayed flights at Maui, 24 at Kauai, 20 at Kona, and 17 at Hilo. In total, Sunday featured 212 being delayed at Hawaii’s airports.

At Honolulu, the delays broke down as follows:

  • Alaska Airlines 13
  • American Airlines 1
  • Delta Airlines 6
  • Hawaiian Airlines 43
  • Mokulele 6
  • Southwest Airlines 20
  • United Airlines 2
  • Other airlines (cargo and international) 38

Your editors got caught up in the fracas but felt lucky to escape with relatively short delays this time. But what became clear is just how much the airport continues to suffer.

Recently, we wrote about the Massive Honolulu Airport Closure To Wreak Havoc Into 2023. And since then, we’ve learned more.

Gate holds one of the aspects of these Hawaii flight delays.

On Friday, when traveling to Honolulu, your editor’s flight pulled away from the departure gate right on time. But then stopped after it cleared the gate. The captain announced that Honolulu had placed a gate hold on the flight. By pulling away from the gate, was the departure considered to be on time? In any event, we sat for about 15 minutes near the runway until HNL could release the plane for takeoff. HNL, it turns out, was simply not ready for the flight to arrive on time.

Being on time has given Hawaiian Airlines its decades-long reputation for the best performance in the industry. But, as a side note, they didn’t arrive at that reputation for punctuality easily. Until about 20 years ago, the Hawaiian Air acronym HAL was often used to mean “Hawaiian Always Late.”

What happened as our plane was taxiing for takeoff is just one example of the current airport problems. Furthermore, on approaching Honolulu, the flight circled over the ocean several times to hold back its arrival time even further prior to a delayed landing.

Runway 8L is completely out of commission until sometime in 2023. For what reason?

Honolulu Airport Runway Repairs

A massive $90M+ runway repair project is underway to widen one of two primary HNL runways (one of four in total). Airline pilot friend John estimated that this critical runway being out of commission represents more than a 50% overall capacity reduction. You’ll recall we previously contacted the Hawaii DOT-Airports and were told there is no completion date yet for the project.

The runway project is the largest of its type ever undertaken at HNL, except when the Reef Runway was added in 1977. This will add 50′ to the runway width, increasing the total width to 200′. And it comes right on the heels of the odd new Mauka Concourse being completed at the cost of more than a quarter-billion dollars.

“The principal goal is to allow unrestricted Aircraft Design Group VI aircraft operations on Runway 8L-26R.” That is according to the engineering firm Orion. Aircraft Design Group designation includes the following types of airliners:

  • III Boeing 737, Airbus A320
  • IV Boeing 767, Airbus A310
  • V Boeing 777 /787, Airbus A330
  • VI Boeing 747-8 and Airbus A380

The repair work underway has many elements, including surveys and investigations, pavement design, construction and rehabilitation, geometry layout, FAA compliance, airfield lighting, signage, and more.

Does that mean this enormous effort and disruption was to accommodate the A380/747-8?Korean Airlines 747-8

The work is clearly making an incredible mess at HNL. If it is being done solely for the accommodation of the limited number of A380 and 747-8, of which very few use HNL, does that make any sense?

It’s interesting to note that some locations are now banning these 4-engine aircraft.

Expensive accommodations done for just a few A380 aircraft at HNL aren’t new. About five years ago, the Hawaii DOT invested some $30 million to allow two gates to accommodate the aircraft.

Korean Air flies the 747-8 to Honolulu, while ANA flies the A380.

Bye-bye, four-engine airliners in any case.

Much-loved four-engine airliners are definitely fading away. Airbus has moved to the two-engine A350 as its wide body of choice. Fuel savings and maintenance costs are the primary reason given, with the manufacturer saying that A350 is 25% more fuel efficient than the next best plane. Not only that, but recently due to noise and air pollution considerations, Israel has banned all 4-engine plans from traveling there.

What can travelers do?

Plan on delays for flights arriving in or departing from Honolulu. The situation is worse for interisland flights. If you are traveling from the mainland, you may want to fly nonstop to the island of your choice if possible and not try for an interisland connection. Allow more time between arrival and departure for connecting flights. And it isn’t just Honolulu flights suffering, as this has a spillover effect that impacts all of Hawaii’s airports.



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7 thoughts on “Hawaii Airport Grief, Runway Holds, Unending Delays | All For This?”

  1. I’m very late to this discussion. But I have a good friend who’s a captain at HA. He said the 8L rehabilitation is because it was in terrible condition. In fact, if you glance at a Jeppesen chart from 2022 or prior, it lists 8L as “Fair – Poor Condition.” That is likely the main reason for the reconstruction, not a handful of jumbo flights.

  2. Aloha, Hello! We always read your newsletter & appreciate your reporting. Never done this before, but wanted to let you know that my husband & I visited just recently via Southwest Airline, traveled inter island, & flew home Sunday, December 4, 2022 without incident & no delays. With the help of your website, we came prepared, got there early, loaded up on snacks, and all went well. It was so helpful to get your perspective, experience and advice & we had a great flying experience.Thanks for your updates.

  3. Aloha Beat of Hawai’i. Just a few things to point out from your story:

    Runway 8R is open for all operations, arrivals and departures.

    Runway 8L is open but is limited to departures only and those departures are small aircraft or 717s, 737s and similar aircraft with reduced loads.

    8L and 8R, along with 4R can all handle CL VI aircraft. I have seen 744s 748s and A380s use all three. Maybe they are just improving what they had already but the only runways that those aircraft could not use were 4L, 4W/22W and 8W/26W.

  4. Hi guys, Well like you said, Avoid Honolulu at all cost. Fly nonstop to your island of choice. May cost a bit more but worth it in the long run. No headaches and waiting around when you could be lying on the beach with a cold one in your hand. Looks like it will be this way for quite awhile as we know how long construction and maintenance workers take to build/repair something. Hey I d take my time too if that was my job. Great pay, overtime, benefits and hangin’ loose in Hawaii. Sweet!!! Take care you two. Warmest regards as always.

  5. Tourism in Hawai’i revolves around the asian tourists…..which is a huge mistake! And it is horrible!They continue to cater to the Asian community who like during 9/11 and Covid19 were ghosts! Hawaii call themselves and International destination, yet, they probably mean, Asian International! And why is this? I believe this needs to change….

    1. Blatant asian racism needs to be called out. One of the many things that makes Hawaii truly special is the melting pot of people living and visiting here. Sadly, we have seen a downside to the recent explosion of mainland only tourism that has an ugly side to it. More people that want Hawaii to be just another mainland tourist destination like Florida or Las Vegas. I hope more people from around the world continue to discover Hawaii. The Aloha spirit doesn’t discriminate.

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