As FAA “Zero Tolerance” policy goes into effect, two Honolulu flight diversions bring focus to security.
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As FAA “Zero Tolerance” policy goes into effect, two Honolulu flight diversions bring focus to security.
this better not ever happen in front of me. What happened to air marshalls? We need better protection in the skies and each and every person should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Letting one slide gives others license to do the same. I have flown a number of times recently and never one issue.
If unruly passengers suffer little or no consequence, they will continue to behave in this manner. This kind of behavior places the lives of everyone onboard in jeopardy. We never saw this kind of behavior in years past. Everyone was respectful of other passengers on their flights.
In the article it stated to ask to speak to the “first officer”. There isn’t a U.S. air carrier that you can speak to the “first officer” in flight. Also, on the ground a first officer will not have anything to do with unruly behavior other than calling for assistance. As one of your readers ‘Roy’ pointed out, alcohol is a huge contributor and also pills to relax. Then the combination only creates more problems. As your TSA reader pointed “it’s swept under the rug”. It’s terrible to go to work and see flight crew get beaten down (and I am mean verbally). Finally, passengers are more in the know over delays then flight crew. While I am not saying it’s enough info, and maybe there should be more communication inflight crews are not withhold
“not detained by authorities”
Old people did you take notice that both were very long haul flights that there’s a good chance a mental health issue was to blame. Might explain why the individuals were not detained.
I did see an earlier comment about this possibility, but as usual lets jump on the booze was involved bandwagon. Not saying it wasn’t just a good idea to wait to get the facts before bashing the 2 individuals.
Also Zero Tolerance has been proven to be a badly abused by policy by authorities.
Zero tolerance means no excuses. If you aren’t fit to fly, you shouldn’t. Long haul, short flight, delay or on time doesn’t matter.
While I agree with the comments made to date in this thread, the airlines need to step up their effort when it comes to providing accurate and useful information in situations where delays are occurring. A more proactive approach on the part of the airline with respect to information might well stem some of this behaviour before it occurs.
At the risk of repeating myself, but for the sake of clarity, a lack of information does not condone unruly behaviour but when issues are brought to the attention of the airline via their preferred feedback methods, airlines should be doing more to address the underlying causes of unruly behaviour before it ever begins. It is a two way street.
In all probability, it has become time to keep track of how much booze someone has consumed on a flight.
Aloha
From what I’ve observed, getting pickled on a flight is a very expensive undertaking!
While we were enroute yesterday we stuck to the water, soda & coffee, waiting until we were at the hotel before indulging. The flight was OK although long, & we are really happy to be here now! Your state is beautiful! ❤
These incidents needs to be brought to public attention and they all and need to be arrest and prosecuted. And at the very least put on No Fly list for All airlines. As a fellow passenger, I want my crew and flight protected.
Please people. It’s only a flight. Be nice for Gods sake.
But I will say, I once had a flight attendant so rude to a vet with a k-9 I wanted to slap her. Full flight. Big guy with a big German Shepard. She demanded that he have the dog sit in his lap the entire 5 hour flight.
She should be ashamed of herself! No excuse to treat someone like that, especially a veteran.
Aloha!
It would be of interest if you can update on the recent situations where the passengers were NOY detained, and why?
Mahalo always for your continued and timely informationm
Hi Lynn.
Thanks. Yes, if we learn more, we will update.
Aloha.