It just takes one person to wreck it for others. With some ugly details.
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It just takes one person to wreck it for others. With some ugly details.
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people that vacation in Hawaii that disrespect,think they are entitled to something and break rules and laws should be sent home and are not welcome back.
People who live in Hawaii that disrespect, think they are entitled to something and break rules and laws should be kicked out of Hawaii and are not welcome back.
This is so sad, it brings tears to my eyes. The local people are so much a part of the special culture and beauty of the Hawaiian islands! How can anyone come to someone’s “home” and treat it so rudely and disrespectfully?!!!
I am surprised by the overreacting of many people to what I see as bad knowledge and expectations of what a Hawaii vacation can be. In days past Fodders and other guides helped those really wanting a little insight into Hawaii to learn how to act and what to seek out.
The entire time we lived there and on all our many returns we know where all hula shows were and where our favorite artists were playing.
The concept of who “deserves” or is “entitled” to what is nothing but a character defect, which exists in locals and tourists alike. I think making it a Hawaii thing exclusively is unrealistic. Go to Disney World (especially Epcot) at closing time and watch certain Drunk parents get into their rental cars with their Kids! Hawaii issues?
Judging from these comments, there are some that think Hawaii should be as cheap as possible for as many people as possible and somehow think that equates to economic growth for the State. They seem to think the more entry level service jobs the better, after all they are there to serve them. Living here I see that perspective as very bad for the quality of life for all, tourist and resident. Something has to be done before it’s too late. What’s special about Hawaii can be preserved.
AMEN.
So sick of people complaining they cannot afford to vacation here. I cannot afford to vacation in Tahiti or France, but I don’t go to tourist sites run by residents of those places and complain about the locals and prices. I keep them on my bucket list and go where I can afford to go.
I live here. We who live here do not solely exist to serve as minimum wage slaves to serve tourists..I have seen suggestions here of housing workers like on cruise ships. Do those suggesting realize that you are saying people should have no life out of work? Because one cannot raise a family in a hotel room.
If Hawaii is now not attractive for whatever, please do not come and do not complain, and lord knows, stop telling us how to solve our problems.
Spoken like a true non-native.
How so? I am not Native Hawaiian but I am a Kama’aina.
@Diana…”I have seen suggestions here of housing workers like on cruise ships.” Could you point me to that post? I’d be very interested in seeing that.
Thanks
It was here in this thread somewhere. You can find it if you look. Someone wanted to house workers in hotel rooms.
Hi Diana,
Well said seems some here think that Hawaiians are their little slaves to do with as they wish. I wish the boys who run this would block more of these negative nellies.
Right on target!
People, People, People. Do we really want to start talking about censorship due to point of view?
I think these things will work themselves out without going to this extreme. B of H moderators do just that: Moderate, not censor. I wouldn’t read this forum if it were one sided.
Good work, guys.
More specific to your article, someone on here boasted that SWA was the first airline to drop mask requirements.That says something about the corporate attitude in a State that wearing a mask was about caring for others and demonstrating Aloha. The anti mask crowd was all about “personal choice” You could make a case that the “angry personal choice crowd” have helped create a different attitude in the tourism industry here.
Just a small factor, you can’t stereotype SWA pax’s but they did flood the market with new clientele and some would certainly fit the mold you are describing.
I’m a bit blown away that people are actually trying to make a case that Hawaii should focus only on an industry that creates low paying service jobs so they can keep coming here. The reason the State needs to diversify is to create a wider range of jobs for the people that live here and be able to create a livable situation for everyone. To continue trying to pump as many tourists here as possible as cheaply as possible simply destroys destroys the quality of life for here for everyone , visitors and residents. Tourists are more than welcome, just not the ones that don’t respect the big picture.
amen to this.
It would be nice if Hawaii could pivot away from Tourism but at this point, I haven’t seen anyone mention any viable option. So it’s a nice thought but is it practical?
Good question Patrick, first step is managing tourism though. Keeping a balance between mainland and international tourism is crucial. The proposed fees could help keep the entire state from being overrun by people trying to get as much out of Hawaii as they can with minimal return to the state economy. Once managed perhaps doors would open for other opportunities. Business opportunities that connect the East with West. Centers for Eastern and Western medicine, agriculture etc etc
“The proposed fees could help keep the entire state from being overrun by people trying to get as much out of Hawaii as they can with minimal return to the state economy.“
I really don’t understand this attitude. How is there “minimal return to the state economy”? Tourists coming and spending money in restaurants, condos, grocery stores, activities, taxes and now parking fees *is* the economy! I understand that we need to diversify, but to say that tourists don’t contribute to the economy is the opposite of what is actually happening.
Right on target!
Thank you for stating this. I have been coming to Hawaii for the past 50 years. Until recently tourists were appreciated. We tourists pour a lot of money into Hawaii when we visit.
I couldn’t have said it better JohnW! Add to this the growth of “budget tourists” which drive down the income of Hawaii the only solution that some people see is More More more when it comes tourists. What they don’t recognizes is that that kind of tourist growth is a death spiral. It can’t continue forever, and eventually it will hit bottom because it will have destroyed the very reasons that people want to come to Hawaii. It’s a real issue, but of course Big Tourism in Hawaii is against any kind of change that will stop that said same death spiral and they have significant “influence” within the halls of power.
The real money is in manufacturing, and that ain’t coming.
Better to take the winner (tourism) and up its appeal than to go chasing windmills.
There’s a major disconnect from reality, in Hawaii, for 30 years Japan drove the economy, with Stateside Tourism #2, and Canada, then Australia coming to Hawaii. Japan collapsed in the late 1990’s, DFS, as we know vacated their Kalakaua Building that had becomes the Market Dominant Retailer in Waikiki, Yokohama Okadaya a 10 Door Chain found in every Japanese market Hotel dropped to a few doors, this is where the real consumption was, with Kinoshitaya (Palm Tree House), Paul’s, Royal Hawaiian Gem, Louis Vuitton capturing the rest. The Chinese began to fill the void, but CCP intervention controlled the spend. It’s not hard to believe Bureaucrats are agnostic to the truth, but instead blaming fellow Americans for spending here!
It’s not us vs them. All airlines have squeezed the seating areas so close. When you can’t recline on a flight even the airline executives would get aggravated!
As said elsewhere, it’s the “SWA effect”, not a few extra seats on the airplanes (although that is a different issue that should be addressed). SWA enters new markets by flooding the destination with cheap seats. Once they have done that they gradually raise their fares. Works for them in places like Las Vegas and Orlando, it’s been very bad for Hawaii’s infrastructure. Next time you spend an hour in TSA you can thank SWA and how they time their flights. They have preyed on Hawaii, with their business model.
Oregon shares a similar laid-back attitude as Hawaii. I am a regular visitor to the islands and my husband worked there for a short time. I don’t know how familiar readers are with the violent and dangerous cultural events and decline of living conditions that have taken place in Portland in the last years, but you can easily find media reports online. Because of this and my study of Hawaii’s history, I commiserate with Hawaii residents. I would like to point out that Oregon’s degradation started decades ago with an influx of out-of-staters moving here to take advantage of our wonderful way of life and thus brought with them the exact thing they were fleeing, ruining Oregon. Be thankful it’s just visitors and not new residents in HI!
I don’t understand. What dangerous cultural events?
It’s both. I have seen more out of state plates in the last two years alone than I ever have in my entire life.
Aloha
Colorado has been ruined by the same problems as OR the influx of tourists and their lack of respect for the outdoors. People leaving trash and dog excrement all over the trails. The EMS system is breaking to rescue those who get too high on edibles caused accidents to go sky high. Denver is a disaster shootings daily, homeless camps and Fentanyl are rampant
Get out Denver baby Go!
I’ve traveled wrote a few places and pick up trash everywhere I go. Must recently, Walt Disney World, where I paid for the pleasure of doing so.
Hawaii isn’t exempt nor more prone to rudeness or inconsiderate behavior. It’s part of the decline in morals, values and people’s lack of care for others or even themselves.
Look at the bright side, you’re not getting looted and windows smashed out of your vehicles every few seconds like say, lovely San Francisco.
People are voting for this.