One airline had two flights with the same issue on Friday as unruly passenger behavior on Hawaii flights is soaring. What’s concerning about incidents like this one that resulted in a 19-hour delay.
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Stop serving alcohol of any kind on airline flights. And if a passenger appears to have had to much alcohol to drink at boarding do not let them board. It is obvious most problems are caused by passengers who have been drinking.
Why should those of us who are responsible and don’t act like an idiot have to pay the price for the stupidity of a few?
I was on the flight to Phoenix also. I totally agree with the other passenger that the disruptive drunk passenger should have been taken off when he boarded. He was acting up as soon as he boarded. It caused everyone and that woukd be about 195 passengers so much unnecessary trouble . It was a nightmare and it took two additional days to get home. There was no reason that they could not address that passenger In Phoenix. We were told that local law enforcement coukd not arrest him as it was a federal offense issue and it would have to be filed with FBI. They did not do anything to that man but walk him out and he sat there or danced around without being handcuffed or anything else. Walked away with law enforcement and his wife.
Phoenix used to have deputized Federal Marshall’s. They no longer do.. I have had to deal with this myself after a husband punched his wife in the head out of HNL. They arrested him in PHX, but let him go because the wife would not press charges. If they still had the Marshall’s they could have pressed charges themselves. It being over International waters makes the difference. He Went Free, and he was a Lawyer.
Not letting inebriated, highly agitated or extremely rude people onto the plane to begin with would be helpful, I think.
Any inebriated passenger should be kept off the flight. Make these crimes a felony, they are endangering lives and finances. Training and vigilance will eliminate these problems up front. Not confident to fly American these days.
Eliminate alcohol at airports and on flights. It is absolutely unnecessary, is dehydrating and clearly causes issues. Give flight attendants the ability to say if you don’t follow rules you will never be allowed to fly again. And Ban those who are disruptive from flying anymore! Courtesy over selfishness is necessary for safety.
Um no. I should be able to have a beer while I wait for my flight. Many people don’t have a problem with it or act like morons. No reason why the actions of a select few numbuts should be taken out on the majority of responsible people
Like I said, before, your privilege of imbibing alcohol does not trump my right to a secure flight. In a civilized society, we all have to make certain sacrifices for the greater good. Otherwise anarchy ensues.
If you think your “beer at the airport” is more important than keeping air travel safe and operational, you are mistaken.
People are just awful and that includes antagonistic airline employees who sometimes create drama where none exists. I’m not saying that’s the cause of these recent Hawaii diversions, but airline employees do sometimes like to poke the bear.
Or maybe they are doing their job?
That was not the case here, I can tell you. And I’ve never seen a flight attendant create drama “out of nothing.” They want to arrive on time and get home. Just like 99.9% of passengers.
Agreed Dave, I was right behind first class.
It’s not passenger drama but here is our story flying Hawaiian today (Sunday) from PDX to HNL. Flight at 7:25am. Everyone on board at 7. Around 8 they said something wrong. At 9 they deplaned us. At 10 they said new departure time would be 10:30pm, so in 12hrs. Came back to airport, everyone on plane, this time pulled back from terminal and everything seemed good until it wasn’t again and back to the gate we go. New departure time says 12am.
Sounds more like some of these people were drunk prior to getting on the plane, maybe making adults do a breathalyzer test prior to boarding would work. Why bring the hammer down on everyone when it’s a few people who probably started drinking hours before their flight? Just a thought.
The penalty for disrupting a flight should include reimbursing not just the airline cost but all the passengers airfare as well as losses (missing my $5000 cruise). Could easily top $1M per flight
Perhaps we need Air Marshalls on every flight with a Hawaii route.
The feds are taking away Air Marshals and sending them to the S. border.
I was on flight 697 and was actually asked by one of the flight attendants to stand by to assist with this passenger, if necessary. I can say without hesitation that the gate agent in Lihue had ample indication that this particular passenger was going to be trouble, as he arrived at the gate inebriated and was already being very disruptive before ever boarding the aircraft. If a passenger is behaving that way in the terminal, one can correctly conclude that their behavior will worsen, not improve, once the flight is in the air. There is no excuse for this kind of behavior, but even less excusable is American Airlines’ complete failure to train their personnel in assessing passengers as they board, and empower them to take action.