This caused us to revisit Hawaii airline safety since you are over the Pacific, you are all alone.
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This caused us to revisit Hawaii airline safety since you are over the Pacific, you are all alone.
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Aloha,
Please correct the spelling of Faa’a.
Mahalo,
Charlotte
PS- I am so grateful that UA328, along with its passengers and crew, returned safely to DEN yesterday. It was a bit disconcerting while it was happening and the debris was dropping so close to home. A huge thank you to the crew!
Hi Charlotte.
Thanks for that correction on the name of an airport we both know very well.
Aloha.
Mahalo for the interesting history lesson.
Aloha Guys.
Hi Roy.
Thanks. We either didn’t know of or had forgotten some of these ourselves. And the comments helped with the ones we missed.
Aloha.
My family was on an AA 767 leaving HNL that was turned around after about an hours flying time while over the Pacific. All we were advised is that an indicator light came on and they didn’t want to continue. When we arrived back at HNL, we were met by several fire trucks and towed. I admit, it was more than a little frightening. I can’t imagine how terrified these passengers were. We were well taken care of by AA and put up at the Hilton Hawaiian Village and given a food allowance until they could get everyone booked on another flight. In our case, that was 3 days.
Fortunately, aircraft can operate on one engine. That said, I wouldn’t want to be over the Pacific when that happened! The crew is to be complimented!
Do not forget that there was another uncontained engine in Maastricht on a 747 yesterday also. Both the 747 and the 777 were using Pratt & Whitney engines. Not saying the issues are the same or related, but to have TWO similar incidents happen on the same day…what are the chances?
As long as it doesn’t happen on the same two-engined airplane, which ETOPS is intended to render nearly statistically impossible, the passengers and cargo will be fine on both ships.
ETOPS = Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim
Or
Engines Turn Or Plane Sinks
Barring the funny remarks, if the plane is ETOPS certified it shouldn’t matter if the engine failure happened over land or ocean…..it should be able to make it the 2 1/2 hours on just 1 engine (would probably take longer though with just the 1 engine) either back to the mainland or on to Hawaii.
The woman that was sitting right in front of the wing said that she really didn’t notice anything until she looked out and saw the engine wiggling around and the flames at the back of the engine. Other than that, people were calmly reading and did not seem concerned as well they should be as that aircraft can fly quite well on one engine. They were not going to make it to Hawaii that way so basically no harm, except to maybe some overreacting people’s underwear, no foul and they were put on other planes to get to Honolulu.
What do you expect from boeing airplanes anyway other than “boeing down”???
Really. Come on
The ongoing, cultural, racial discrimination, anti American sentiments, logistical, financial, governmental issues with Hawaii are proving to be irreconcilable and unforgiving.
Without commenting on whether you are right or wrong, What does your statement have to do with this particular incident?
This incident just serves as another reminder that Hawaii comes with many challenges whether you are visiting or living there.
You are completely reliant on airplanes for travel,even interisland. And then having to deal with pandemic and other issues that might arise.
Mat
This person finds it entertaining to make negative comments about Hawaii in general.
Uncertain why, been posting negativity for months from what ive noticed.
It looks like water was being sprayed on the engine. Is that an automatic safety procedure that somehow happens? Just wondering how that works. Thanks for any information you could offer.
Hi Rita.
Maybe someone more knowledgeable can lend a hand. There are a lot of aviation types around.
Aloha.
That is not water spraying into the engine. Each engine has 2 internal chemical fire bottles. What you’re seeing is a reflection of light on the camera lens.
I believe the last incident involving a PA stratocruiser is incorrect. There was a water landing in the Pacific but it took place in the early 50’s. That flight was bound for SF from HNL. The pilots realized they would have to ditch but were able to wait until dawn so rescuers would have an easier time rescuing the crew and passengers. They were in constant contact with a US Naval ship. (These ships were stationed at the halfway point during those years for radio purposes.) They finally landed in the water…all were rescued. Excellent outcome in what could have been a tragedy. Beyond the halfway mark, they would call it “the point of no return”.
Hi Maleko.
We believe the information in the post is correct. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_7.
Aloha.
No one survived the crash in the provided link. I believe it is much more likely the incident described was https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_6.
This was the other Pan American incident I was referring to. Your description was correct.
http://airlinesafety.com/editorials/DitchingOfPanAmFlight6.html
Hi Maleko.
Got it and added the other incident. Thanks.
Aloha.