112 thoughts on “Why Airlines Just Pressed Pause on Hawaii Deals and Ramp-Up”
Susan M.
We are a family of 7 coming August 7th. It would be very expensive for all of us to be tested. We all have to get a referral from our primary doctor so can’t come in a group. I am waiting for a referral. I don’t know yet how long it will take to get the results. Why isn’t taking our temperature sufficient?
Alfred H.
We are homeowners at the Beach Villas at Ko Olina and we’ve gone from paying around $500 a week in GE/TA taxes to $0 because our guests have all cancelled during the 14-day quarvantine. Even if it cost the State of Hawaii say a discounted cost via a bulk contract to $100, their return would be the difference of $400. It would seem prudent to remove as many pain points for guests as possible while keeping everyone safe as is reasonably possible.
David K
Why didn’t the state come up with a more definitive course of action given the time they had to do so? Throughout this pandemic one thing is clear and that is we lack leadership in our elected officials. These leaders are making reactionary decisions that change like the wind. This short term decision making is a big reason why our numbers are still on the rise, people have little faith and aren’t willing to do what the leadership is mandating.
Lynn S.
Because you could be asymptomatic and spread it.
Keith G
We aren’t arriving until February so hopefully things will be ironed out by then. Right now it is impossible to get a test unless you have symptoms at CVS or anywhere else. I understand Maui’s desire to protect its citizens, but as it stands now it isn’t feasible to attempt to travel to Hawaii. There’s only a little over 3 weeks left to come up with a solution.
Tammy W
Well, we already had our trip canceled in May and at the time we were forced to rebook (no refunds were being issued) so we doubled down for October 28th with 1 week on the big island and 1 week on Maui. I’ve been white knuckling this trip since March. I used miles for the inter island flight, I have 2 different timeshares booked (Airbnb and iTrip) at this point a lot of money involved and the logistics of having to deal with another round of spin the refund wheel has me stressed out. We are definitely willing to pay for testing as long as it guarantees no quarantine but if everything is closed and locked down it would definitely be a weird trip. What’s the vibe like where you’re at BOH? Are the tourists welcome or being hassled? Are the beaches open? I live in San Diego and it’s a struggle here at home knowing what’s open or closed or what’s allowed or locked down. How come there isn’t a dedicated Hawaii website with all this info?? I watch Big Island video news on YouTube which is a good news source but it’s all still confusing and all over the place. I have 8.5 weeks of riding this wave out. The other thing I want to mention is that the people of Hawaii put pressure on the government to close the islands and now that it’s been awhile it seems they are all freaking out about reopening. Why not take a vote or at least involve the community in the decision on reopening? People need to work and provide for their families. This whole situation worldwide seems so disorganized and indecisive. It’s really hard to navigate all these hard rules soft rules and maybe maybe not rules lol. Thanks for the update BOH, please continue helping us and stay safe everyone. Fingers crossed that we’ll finally get back in the islands soon! Aloha🌺💕
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Tammy.
Check back after August 1 for how things are here on the ground. At the moment, the only regular travel is interisland. Beaches are certainly open and wonderful. Restaurants are starting to open, but until there is a wider opening, there isn’t economy of scale in opening much more.
Thanks for all of your comments.
Aloha.
Fran G
Aloha,
I find it really quite depressing that everyone is blaming Hawaii for trying to keep their citizens safe and healthy. What really concerns me, is hearing that it is not possible to get test results in 3 days. The advice for controlling this virus is that results should be available within 24 hours and that all contacts of the infectious person are traced. If you’re not getting results for a week, how many of the people that the first infected are walking around spreading the virus. It spreads prior to symptoms developing, assuming that symptoms ever develop.
Really everyone needs to be lobbying their states and governors to ramp up testing and processing so that results are available within 24 hours. This is for your own health!
But equally with regards to the testing and quarantine, I do like the approach being taken by Iceland. They need their tourists back. So as a tourist, I would pay for the test at the airport (reduced price for prebooking) and at the moment, I see that as part of the cost of the vacation. The guarantee results within 24 hours, they should be within 12 hours if you’ve entered by air (they’re giving themselves a bit of time as the ferry port is on the wrong side of the island from the only city). If you test positive, they pay for the treatment. If you test negative, no quar antine. If you’re unfortunate enough to have been sat next to someone who tests positive, you can either stay at the government’s expense in a facility, or self isolate wherever you’re staying. This seems like quite a fair deal so I’m actually considering if for a summer vacation this year. And I’m only thinking about it, as the UK has finally got the numbers down low enough I think the odds of me sitting next to the positive person on the plane is sufficiently low that I’ll take the gamble.
But really the message needs to be TEST, TEST, TEST. And if you’re local area isn’t testing, I’d ask them why.
I look forward to the time when it’s safe enough for me to fly to Hawaii, but in the mean time I enjoy reading the updates. Mahalo.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Fran.
Thanks.
Aloha.
Linda T
So much uncertainty- impossible to plan a trip, just too many moving parts. I can understand that they need to stay safe though, so waiting for a vaccine is the way we’ll go.
We will return once we know that we will be safe and welcomed.
Kimberly T.
Maybe this will for the most, part be gone by then. Its already weakened a lot. Only 8% of all hospital beds in California are occupied. I think that’s telling. I’m not sure if the decision makers will admit to that, but regardless, it’s good news. I’ll be praying for a miracle, so that life in America can begin again. Miracles do happen.
Catherine l.
Taking temps isn’t really reliabe because if soe passenget took a tylenal or motrin a coyple of hours beroire landing it would mask a temperature
David M
So many issues need to be worked out. Not sure if they do it in the next 3 weeks given the rise of Covid in the west coast states especially CA. Hope things can shake out before my visit in Oct. Thanks to BofH for all of the info. You don’t get this info collected elsewhere!
Beat of Hawaii
Hi David.
Thank you!
Aloha.
Maxine
Finally a real breakthrough in science. A breakthrough from politics.
It is again confirmed hydroxychloroquine cuts mortality by 1/2 during hospitalization and if used in high risk patients prior to infection, dramatic results as well. Noting that the risk proved minimal. The study was released today 7/6/2020.
Lets get going.
Kulani A
I just want to say mahalo for the clarity in your updates! We’ve been planning to take a trip in late August to Oahu as a family to visit family and friends before our eldest leaves for college. We were hopeful as we watched the Governor’s news conference announcing the August 1 opening date. We’ve grown worried, however, as the state’s shown an apparent lack of foresight on some key testing issues. Add to that an inability to find one source of reliable info (skimming the Governor,Lt. Governor websites and the web aren’t providing many answers) and we’re much less hopeful that our trip will happen. We’re SO hoping Hawaii gets us answers quickly so we can go! But we’re really glad we can depend on your emails for RELIABLE info! Keep up the good work!
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Kulani.
Thank you! We too are hoping for more clarification soon.
Aloha.
Tony M.
Excellent summary of the current situation.
Thailand’s main international airport unveiled rapid coronavirus tests last Friday for some overseas arrivals. Why aren’t Hawaiian officials observing the effectiveness of the Thai Program? At the very least they can have online consultations with Thai Airport officials. Where’s the sense of urgency in light of a fast-approaching deadline.
Hawaii’s stated desire to restart the Tourism Machine is not in harmony with a realistic protocol to make it happen. Stakeholders will not be in a rush to venture on a fool’s errand of murky procedures and broken promises.
There are at current several models to avoid or emulate. Pick one and modify it for Hawaii’s unique situation.
I feel bad for the people of Hawaii. It’s a “Company” town and Management isn’t doing so well these days.
Cuz'n Bill
Governor Ige is a lame duck. He is term limited. This gives him quite a bit of freedom from pressure groups. He is not going to be removed from office. He will make decisions based on what he thinks is best. He alone makes decisions in Hawaii regarding the return of visitors.
Getting C0vid-19 test results is not the same everywhere. It may not even be possible to get a test without symptoms in places where the virus is raging out of control. If you live in one of places, you may have to quar antine for 14 days.
If you are an American, the places you can go for a vacation are becoming fewer everyday. For whatever reason, some Americans do not want to follow te rules. Where I live in Hawaii, everyone is wearing their face cloth when they are shopping in town. Social distancing is an accepted way of our life. We don’t have any cases on our island.
I’m not sure I would want to fly 5 hours or more in an airplane to get here. Currently 13 Hawaiian Air flight attendants have C0vid-19. 60 more are quarantining.
So, come, quar antine if necessary and enjoy Hawaii
Dawn
What are your thoughts on whether or not restaurants and activities will be available to travelers in mid August if they test negative? Currently everything seems to be closed at the Marriott we are scheduled to stay at – will this all magically open on 8/1?
MP
Just think … Hawaii is stuck with Gov. Ige for another 2.5 yrs … ugh! Even his top-ranking officials said (anonymously) to Civil Beat that “he’s above his head” with the C0VID-19 stuff and “he’s “indecisive” as well as the fact that, “he’s not a leader.” Need we say more?
Pam L
I have no problem paying for a c0vid test and I would not want Hawaii to foot the bill either. My family and I take precautions and have all of the items necessary to keep us healthy as well as the awesome people that live on the island and other tourists safe. None of us knows what the future holds and I just want to experience a special bond with my husband and girls in the most beautiful place on earth. 5 days for a c0vid test would work out well for us. I called my doctors office, which they said they are not advertising travel tests but are doing them. You guys might want to call your doctor office too. My issue is it takes 4 days. They also said it takes 4 days for us because we are considered a rural area. If you are in an urban area it may not take as long.
Thank you for keeping us informed Beat of Hawaii!!
Aloha, Pam
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Pam.
Thanks!
Aloha.
Linda B.
Thank you for this update. We are hopefully flying direct from Canada to Maui in November. 🍍🍍🍍
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Linda.
Thanks.
Aloha.
Carol S.
As long as the 14-day quar antine is in effect based upon test results for the virus, we cannot return to Hawaii. According to our doctors, we are both healthy, which makes us ineligible for virus testing in our state. If we could get tested, results are taking 5-7 days, sometimes longer. And even if we did get test results in time for our flight, there is still the possibility that our temperature reading at the departure airport is off (what if I’m having a hot flash?). We can’t risk losing the $$$$ in travel expenses for airline, hotel and car rental. We are so anxious to get back to our place of birth, but under the current restrictions it won’t happen anytime soon.
Donald K.
So basically NOTHING has changed as to the way camp chaos is being managed or in this case, really isn’t. The old phrase, “crap or get ofc the pot” certainly seems appropriate at this point! Things keep going lije they are and Hawaii will indeed become a pauper state, which somehow seems to keep paying their “do nothing but lip service” politicians! Ah, the benefits of electing the people you have.
Jamey H.
I’m sure hoping they change the 72 hour thing to 5 – 7 days. Our flight leaves on a monday. I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t get our results in time over the weekend. Ugh. We fly out of Seattle aug 24th
Cindy
I would like to thank you for being so clear in your explanations in addressing our concerns. I’m sure all of us love Hawaii and want to keep it safe but we also want to have our vacations there as well. Just keep the updates coming and we will have to work with them.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Cindy.
Thank you!
Aloha.
Debbie W
I think that visitors need to stay away unless they want to totally overwhelm Hawaii’s small infrastructure. We all love Hawaii and want to go. We need to understand that what we love about Hawaii would be totally destroyed if several million people suddenly showed up with C0VID and inundated the hospitals. Hawaiian hospitals would not be able to accommodate such a catastrophe. They are not designed for the kind of volume that would occur if C0VID cases increased dramatically. Better to respect the Governors wishes which are for the protection of the place we love and stay home until a vaccine is developed, or be prepared to isolate for 14 days if you must go. We need to be understanding and patient.
Dave R
You are right, but too many people won’t exercise patience or self-control. We just got a dose of that this holiday weekend in San Diego. Beaches were closed in Orange County and LA County, because people there had refused to follow guidelines or respect others. So what happened? Huge numbers of “refugees” poured down into San Diego, plus more from Arizona (another hot spot). Beaches and parks were full of people from OC and LA and AZ (how could we tell? From license plates and license plate holders, plus total lack of local knowledge. They refused to wear masks, and they refused to keep physical distance. Now we will be facing a surge here in another couple of weeks. It’s sad, but there are simply too many people who don’t care. They help ruin things in their own area, then go elsewhere when the rules tighten up (due in part to their own behavior).
I feel for the people in Hawai’i who have/had tourism-related jobs but just letting people in isn’t the answer. Many other posters have noted the scientific impossibility of really knowing whether an arriving visitor is a carrier or not. Too many variables.
Maybe there needs to be some thinking outside the box. For example, Hyatt Hotels cash on hand for the quarter ending March 31, 2020 was $1.280 BILLION, a 104.8% increase year-over-year. Hilton Worldwide Holdings cash on hand for the quarter ending March 31, 2020 was $1.805B, a 291.54% increase year-over-year. Maybe these corporations, and others like them, could use some of those billions to help their loyal, underpaid employees who are now jobless through no fault of their own.
MP
Aloha Debbie,
The “Governors wishes” are imploding our economy!!! How are other states who rely heavily on tourism handling it? I believe we can apply safety measures AND greet tourists at the same time. It just takes good leadership strategies working closely with qualified medical experts.
Dave R
Hello, MP,
The factor you didn’t mention is compliance by tourists. The sad fact is, as we are seeing on the mainland, is that too many people think the rules don’t apply to them, or they just can’t be bothered. Result: no distancing, no masks, more cases of C-19, more hospitalizations, more deaths. This is one reason why medical experts are mostly recommending caution. You can’t blame the governor for that. And his “wish” (like all of us) would be to have everything normal. Unfortunately, C-19 doesn’t operate on wishes.
Phyllis C
Aloha and hopefully we can welcome all of you/ My kids have been hre visiting from California. They got tests from Kaiser beore they left. results the next day, no questions asked, no symptoms. After being here for a week, my daughter in law thought she was getting some symptoms, andthe local Kaiseer tested her. She got her (negative) result the next day. So, tests are available, you just needto find out where in your area. I think most of our visitors would be willing to pay for a rapid test, which would be cheaperthan 14 days quar antine, and would allow those with less available vacation time to actually have their Hawaii vacation. As an artist whose inclome from local galleries has dropped to essentially zero, I personally hope that we can get healthy clinets back to buy art. My friends in the hospitality business are eqully hopeful.
Si
Maybe in your state but not mine!
AW
Thank you Beat of Hawaii for keeping us up to date about the travel situation and earlier about how life on Kauai has been.
This whole thing sounds like it will turn into a mess. Requiring a test 72 hours before departure seems risky enough since it still gives a few days to become infected. Extending it to 7 days would seem to be almost useless unless there was also a requirement for strict quar antine between test and travel time. And add to that the fact that you will have visitors that have followed the rules and have had a recent negative test against those visitors who haven’t and then are required to quarantine. How will anyone (such as car rental agencies) know whom to allow a car and whom not to allow a car?
I would think that ultimately the only real answer to keep residents safe would be the requirement of a recent negative test as a condition for staying on the island, say every three or four days. So as long as you’ve had a negative test within 72 to 96 hours you can be out and about. If not then you need to quarantine until you get a new negative test. After 2 or 3 weeks of negative tests then you no longer need to keep getting more tests. I suppose this would not be reasonable since people would balk at this and local test resources are scarce. I really hope that Hawaii doesn’t end up with a runaway epidemic come October.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi AW.
Thanks. Yes many questions remain.
Aloha.
Donna C
Thank you for all the Information and updates. Sadly It is to complicated to fly to Maui or any of the islands at this time even if they change the testing time to five days prior to arrival. I was told
A “Rapid’ test in California could take as much as ten days!! So much for rapid.
With that in mind I cancelled my two week August 19th reservations for Maui this morning. 😥 Hopefully by next summer none of the restrictions will be in place.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Donna.
Thanks.
Aloha.
Glen P.
Wow. Complicated to say the least
Don
My question is what happens if you test positive on arrival? Where do you go? How long will you be there? Who will pay for it all? I can’t imagine any airline would transport you back to the mainland.
Dave R
You have hit the nail on the head. People are so eager to try to get back to “normal” that they aren’t really thinking things through in detail. One rule of life (Murphy’s law): if something can go wrong, it will.
Tom K
Aloha and mahaloh for your Hawaii blog. I think most of your readers/comments have been primarily from Californians (which makes sense, since they’re a big part of your vacationers). But what about folks like my wife and I traveling from the East Coast. Typically, we take 1 day to travel to CA, stay overnight and then fly Hawaii Air the next day non-stop to Lihue, Kauai. How would the timing of a C0VID-19 test work for us? Be tested on the East Coast and hope for results before leaving CA?
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Tom.
Thanks for your many comments. Your concerns make sense. If the period is extended from 3 to 5 or 7 days, that would help in your situation.
Aloha,
KevinC
So in order to come to Hawaii and spend money / boost the economy / make memories and have fun, visitors are required to show results of a test. This is the misguided view of the State which is unfortunately only hurting the people of Hawaii.
If you arrive without a test, you get sent back or you quarantine until you can prove you are clear. Both actions raise the risks of blowing a vacation out of the water.
Placing pre-travel or arrival restrictions on visitors is never going to work, no matter how much the State tries to get folks to accept it. No one wants to gamble with their vacations.
Add to that, the number of people in your party increases both the risk and cost of traveling to Hawaii. It’s already not cheap, but now add $160 or more per person to the cost? No thanks.
It only takes one person in your party to fail their test to ruin a long anticipated trip to the islands. False positives are not uncommon. Who wants to take that chance?
Folks on the mainland have choices. We can drive to another state – no test required! We can even fly between states – still no test required!
Better to not spend any money in Hawaii until the State concedes that travel restrictions have to be dropped completely. Only then will airlines and travelers have the confidence to return.
Dave R
Facts:
In Alaska and Maine, visitors are required to present a recent negative C0VID-19 test.
Fifteen states, meanwhile, require self-quarantines for incoming travelers: Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Nebraska, North Dakota, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island.
In addition, there are state and local rules about masks and distancing, which many visitors selfishly choose to ignore. Living as I do in a tourist area, I’d rather not see people come here to are just trying to avoid restrictions.
And no, people don’t do tourism to boost the economy; they do it for themselves. In any tourist area, that is painfully obvious.
James B
Here’s the biggest elephant that nobody has mentioned. The mainland now has infection rates higher than in the initial pre-shutdown. Western states, with higher visitor counts, are especially impacted. Arizona has an astounding 25% positive test rate and hospitals reaching capacity.
My business (vacation rentals) has been shut down since March, so a revived influx of visitors should be of the highest priority. It isn’t. I realize that introducing the irresponsibility of Governors who re-opened too soon and without a plan would exact the same results in Hawaii.
Tests and temp. checks are a great idea on paper, but with a five hour minimum flight, there’s no guarantee that infections happen enroute and symptoms not appearing for several days.
Dave R
Many people agree with you. And as long as each area is free to set their own rules, we’ll be playing ‘whack a mole’ with C19 forever.
Michelle W
Mahalo!
Maybe we up here in Canada can “bubble” with Hawaii? We have kept things pretty flat here and god knows we need somewhere to travel to that’s equally flat!
Stay safe over there so we can come back and visit soon.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Michelle.
Oh yeah – the travel bubbles. Thank you.
Aloha.
Curtis C.
I would feel the same way too if I had to live in Canada for 12 months a year!
Mike K
Not a surprise. No Hawaii trips this year. Perhaps next year but not making plans yet.
PamM
I too spoke to CVS pharmacies which at this time are literally closing several stores. They deny any “deal” with Hawai’i.
The current testing times are getting longer as do the list of people needing the test.
Most places doing testing will actually laugh at you if you say it’s for travelling to Hawai’i.
This isn’t a laughing matter.
Governor Ige is playing with fire on so many levels.
Here’s to hoping that things get better soon for everyone involved.
Much Aloha to everyone out there and much mahalo to Beat of Hawai’i.
You guys are simply amazing!!🌺
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Pam.
Thanks very much! And we appreciate your many comments.
Aloha.
Ann
I sure hope the state gets their act together soon. We have reservations for the end of next month. I’d like to know what we need to do and what exactly will be open before we depart. If they can’t get it together we’ll have to start thinking about changing our plans. Unfortunately not in Hawaii
James B
Please read articles about Florida’s getting their “act together”. In other words “live (or die) with it.” Good luck on your chosen destination. We wish you health and a trip to the most beautiful place on earth in the safe future.
Scott
Don’t hold your breath….change your plans.
Kalina
I don’t think our state is any worse than other states as many commenters imply about our leaders. Why come here if we’re so disorganized? Ah yes, because our case count is low and you love our beaches. Our leaders have no crystal ball and the vast majority of our residents are satisfied at how things are going here…even those who are out of work. No one has past experience with pandemics to draw up a concrete plan because look what’s happening on the Mainland.
I too had to cancel a long-awaited vacation to Japan–my very first trip to my ancestral country. Disappointing, but I just accepted this and not whining about it. Not grumbling about Japan banning foreign visitors. Just being patient DURING THIS UNPRECEDENTED PANDEMIC.
Ask yourself what’s best for EVERYONE, not just for your own pleasure. In the long run you will hopefully realize your stressing about a VACATION is utterly trivial.
P.S. Yes we are suffering financially, but the consensus here is better that then dealing with an explosion of disease. Please cancel your plans for now and let’s all be patient. Thank you.
Tony M.
Aloha Kalina,
I am being critical of politicians, not the good people of Hawaii. You are quite correct that the United States’ response to this Pandemic is not going to make the highlight reel at the annual UN Ball.
I deal with businesses small and large, and the worse thing for business is uncertainty. That is my main concern. It’s not enough for the Governor to make vague promises that may not hold up in August. In the end, Government and Business have to work together. There needs to be leadership issuing clear and realistic guidelines that businesses can rely upon when investing resources. Otherwise, the outcome in August may be disappointing to all.
Finally, I hope you get to come to Japan. Japan is opening up and we are seeing hotspots as people are hitting the bars and clubs. One nice thing is that most people are wearing masks. Forget Social Distancing, it’s a polite fiction and impossible in public places. Japanese are staying home this year.
I’m an American living with my family in Ehime, Japan and have family in California, Texas, East Coast, and Puerto Rico. So I’m covering a lot of bases!
Wishing you the best!
Dave R
“Japan is opening up and we are seeing hotspots as people are hitting the bars and clubs.” This doesn’t seem like an attraction for visitors. We’ve been looking at a lot of Japanese sites from Honshu to Amami. They all have prominent travel restrictions notifications on their first page. There’s no reason to fly around during this worldwide critical situation. Travelers can get C19, they can spread C19, and the entire experience is just too different. In addition, the last thing Japan needs is more breaking the rules. Because that is what they will do.
Dave R
What would you define as ‘getting their act together?” Opening up so that they can get the terrible results of states like Arizona, California, Florida and others that are experiencing serious surges?
Jenny C
My concern would be if you tested positive, would that be too late to receive any refunds for airfare, car rental, condo rentals, etc….. We are planning a 3 week stay in October, we are first time visitors but has been on our bucket list for a long time and we have already rescheduled from our planned May trip this year.
Thank you so much for the information you give as it is the most useful information we have found.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Jenny.
Thank you. Good question. What we know is that airlines will refund if you have a temperature. We have not heard a word about refunds regarding test results.
Aloha.
JC
I’m curious as to how many folks here are trying to get to the islands as soon as possible and how many are waiting for more concrete news (vaccine, reduced rates on the mainland etc.)?
Tom K
JC – My wife and I had a 3-week vacation planned for Kauai in May to view condos, as we plan to retire in Kauai. Obviously, that didn’t happen. Right now I suspect we will “wait it out” until there is a vaccine. Since we’re both in our mid-60’s the risk just doesn’t make sense, especially since we’re coming from the East Coast. Ironically, my wife is a Level 1 ER/Trauma Manager and has been in the front lines of this. God Bless Her.
Debbie W
Mahalo for your wisdom in waiting it out. Your consideration is appreciated. Your wife no doubt understands that this is not a little flu. With over 3 million people infected on the mainland USA, Hawaii is doing its best to protect its people and its health care facilities from thousands of new incidents that are completely avoidable if people weren’t so self centered. There is more at stake than their vacation. Aloha!
NikiS.
We have reservations for 8/8 and eagerly waiting for more specifics on testing prior to departure.
Jill R
We also have reservations for Aug. 8. Waiting to hear more news about what to plan on!
Lo
After holding out for several months, today, my family canceled our trip to Kauai at the end of August. Our concern is the required testing, which is not available in our area unless a doctor orders it. We’re planning on going to the U.S. Virgin Islands instead. We appreciate all the information from Beat of Hawaii. It’s helped keep us informed on what is going on in our favorite vacation spot.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Lo.
Thank you.
Aloha.
Kim T.
I very much appreciate your updates. It’s a trying time. Who would have thought when I purchased my airline tickets for Aug 6 that this pandemic would have still been an issue? I really thought it was going to bre in the rearview by now. I’m torn between canceling and traveling, learning toward canceling for obvious reasons.
Thank you for all the good info!
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Kim.
Thank you. We definitely relate to the uncertainty. It isn’t all that clear even being here in the ground. That’s the new world to a large degree it seems. Once there is the next update from the state, stakeholders may feel more certain. That should translate to more things reopening.
Aloha.
Tracey C.
We are trying to get to Maui “as soon as possible.” So far, we have rebooked our original trip in May to July, and now mid-August. Our daughter and her husband live there and I usually go twice a year to visit. It’s difficult for this momma to go much more than 6 months without seeing the kids.
Dave R
It looks like you’re asking for responses, so here’s ours:
We had our ‘trip of a lifetime’ to Hawai’i planned for May 2020 (the entire month). Obviously we did not go. We’re not even thinking about plans for a re-schedule. There’s no point; everything is too unsettled. Hawai’i will still be there no matter what. And we’re not making alternative plans, either. We have no need or desire to travel, just for the sake of travel. There are plenty of productive ways to spend free time near home. In addition, this isn’t the best time to spend thousands of dollars on travel. That money might come in handy for a variety of reasons.
How confident would you be in a trip to Kaui, then Maui that was scheduled in December for August 2, 2020 ? We live in California and have a C0vid-19 test date for all 6 of us from Kaiser Healthcare on July 30, 2020. They claim their test results would be ready digitally in 24-36 hours ? We have reservations in Timeshares we own, will the locals be ready for a few visitors ?
Glen P.
What form of test results will airlines accept?
Probably not an electronic form. Easily forged.
Kim T.
Glen P., I read that an email notification was adequate within the stated timeframe.
Michael
I look forward to visiting Hawai’i again… after there’s a vaccine. In the meantime, air travel is a no-go and I’ll be buying gift certificates to all my favorite Hawai’i destinations.
JC
That’s a good idea. It helps to off load the costs on the front end while supporting local businesses. I’ll look into that as well.
Sheryl B
Michael. you may want to be very careful about buying those gift certificates just yet. I have a feeling Hawaii we have all come to know and love will look very different by the time things actually start to open up. It would not surprise me if many of those favorite destinations never open back up. I know a couple of our favorites are already gone for good. It is happening all over the mainland, so I can only imagine how devastating this shutdown has been for the local businesses.
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We are a family of 7 coming August 7th. It would be very expensive for all of us to be tested. We all have to get a referral from our primary doctor so can’t come in a group. I am waiting for a referral. I don’t know yet how long it will take to get the results. Why isn’t taking our temperature sufficient?
We are homeowners at the Beach Villas at Ko Olina and we’ve gone from paying around $500 a week in GE/TA taxes to $0 because our guests have all cancelled during the 14-day quarvantine. Even if it cost the State of Hawaii say a discounted cost via a bulk contract to $100, their return would be the difference of $400. It would seem prudent to remove as many pain points for guests as possible while keeping everyone safe as is reasonably possible.
Why didn’t the state come up with a more definitive course of action given the time they had to do so? Throughout this pandemic one thing is clear and that is we lack leadership in our elected officials. These leaders are making reactionary decisions that change like the wind. This short term decision making is a big reason why our numbers are still on the rise, people have little faith and aren’t willing to do what the leadership is mandating.
Because you could be asymptomatic and spread it.
We aren’t arriving until February so hopefully things will be ironed out by then. Right now it is impossible to get a test unless you have symptoms at CVS or anywhere else. I understand Maui’s desire to protect its citizens, but as it stands now it isn’t feasible to attempt to travel to Hawaii. There’s only a little over 3 weeks left to come up with a solution.
Well, we already had our trip canceled in May and at the time we were forced to rebook (no refunds were being issued) so we doubled down for October 28th with 1 week on the big island and 1 week on Maui. I’ve been white knuckling this trip since March. I used miles for the inter island flight, I have 2 different timeshares booked (Airbnb and iTrip) at this point a lot of money involved and the logistics of having to deal with another round of spin the refund wheel has me stressed out. We are definitely willing to pay for testing as long as it guarantees no quarantine but if everything is closed and locked down it would definitely be a weird trip. What’s the vibe like where you’re at BOH? Are the tourists welcome or being hassled? Are the beaches open? I live in San Diego and it’s a struggle here at home knowing what’s open or closed or what’s allowed or locked down. How come there isn’t a dedicated Hawaii website with all this info?? I watch Big Island video news on YouTube which is a good news source but it’s all still confusing and all over the place. I have 8.5 weeks of riding this wave out. The other thing I want to mention is that the people of Hawaii put pressure on the government to close the islands and now that it’s been awhile it seems they are all freaking out about reopening. Why not take a vote or at least involve the community in the decision on reopening? People need to work and provide for their families. This whole situation worldwide seems so disorganized and indecisive. It’s really hard to navigate all these hard rules soft rules and maybe maybe not rules lol. Thanks for the update BOH, please continue helping us and stay safe everyone. Fingers crossed that we’ll finally get back in the islands soon! Aloha🌺💕
Hi Tammy.
Check back after August 1 for how things are here on the ground. At the moment, the only regular travel is interisland. Beaches are certainly open and wonderful. Restaurants are starting to open, but until there is a wider opening, there isn’t economy of scale in opening much more.
Thanks for all of your comments.
Aloha.
Aloha,
I find it really quite depressing that everyone is blaming Hawaii for trying to keep their citizens safe and healthy. What really concerns me, is hearing that it is not possible to get test results in 3 days. The advice for controlling this virus is that results should be available within 24 hours and that all contacts of the infectious person are traced. If you’re not getting results for a week, how many of the people that the first infected are walking around spreading the virus. It spreads prior to symptoms developing, assuming that symptoms ever develop.
Really everyone needs to be lobbying their states and governors to ramp up testing and processing so that results are available within 24 hours. This is for your own health!
But equally with regards to the testing and quarantine, I do like the approach being taken by Iceland. They need their tourists back. So as a tourist, I would pay for the test at the airport (reduced price for prebooking) and at the moment, I see that as part of the cost of the vacation. The guarantee results within 24 hours, they should be within 12 hours if you’ve entered by air (they’re giving themselves a bit of time as the ferry port is on the wrong side of the island from the only city). If you test positive, they pay for the treatment. If you test negative, no quar antine. If you’re unfortunate enough to have been sat next to someone who tests positive, you can either stay at the government’s expense in a facility, or self isolate wherever you’re staying. This seems like quite a fair deal so I’m actually considering if for a summer vacation this year. And I’m only thinking about it, as the UK has finally got the numbers down low enough I think the odds of me sitting next to the positive person on the plane is sufficiently low that I’ll take the gamble.
But really the message needs to be TEST, TEST, TEST. And if you’re local area isn’t testing, I’d ask them why.
I look forward to the time when it’s safe enough for me to fly to Hawaii, but in the mean time I enjoy reading the updates. Mahalo.
Hi Fran.
Thanks.
Aloha.
So much uncertainty- impossible to plan a trip, just too many moving parts. I can understand that they need to stay safe though, so waiting for a vaccine is the way we’ll go.
We will return once we know that we will be safe and welcomed.
Maybe this will for the most, part be gone by then. Its already weakened a lot. Only 8% of all hospital beds in California are occupied. I think that’s telling. I’m not sure if the decision makers will admit to that, but regardless, it’s good news. I’ll be praying for a miracle, so that life in America can begin again. Miracles do happen.
Taking temps isn’t really reliabe because if soe passenget took a tylenal or motrin a coyple of hours beroire landing it would mask a temperature
So many issues need to be worked out. Not sure if they do it in the next 3 weeks given the rise of Covid in the west coast states especially CA. Hope things can shake out before my visit in Oct. Thanks to BofH for all of the info. You don’t get this info collected elsewhere!
Hi David.
Thank you!
Aloha.
Finally a real breakthrough in science. A breakthrough from politics.
It is again confirmed hydroxychloroquine cuts mortality by 1/2 during hospitalization and if used in high risk patients prior to infection, dramatic results as well. Noting that the risk proved minimal. The study was released today 7/6/2020.
Lets get going.
I just want to say mahalo for the clarity in your updates! We’ve been planning to take a trip in late August to Oahu as a family to visit family and friends before our eldest leaves for college. We were hopeful as we watched the Governor’s news conference announcing the August 1 opening date. We’ve grown worried, however, as the state’s shown an apparent lack of foresight on some key testing issues. Add to that an inability to find one source of reliable info (skimming the Governor,Lt. Governor websites and the web aren’t providing many answers) and we’re much less hopeful that our trip will happen. We’re SO hoping Hawaii gets us answers quickly so we can go! But we’re really glad we can depend on your emails for RELIABLE info! Keep up the good work!
Hi Kulani.
Thank you! We too are hoping for more clarification soon.
Aloha.
Excellent summary of the current situation.
Thailand’s main international airport unveiled rapid coronavirus tests last Friday for some overseas arrivals. Why aren’t Hawaiian officials observing the effectiveness of the Thai Program? At the very least they can have online consultations with Thai Airport officials. Where’s the sense of urgency in light of a fast-approaching deadline.
Hawaii’s stated desire to restart the Tourism Machine is not in harmony with a realistic protocol to make it happen. Stakeholders will not be in a rush to venture on a fool’s errand of murky procedures and broken promises.
There are at current several models to avoid or emulate. Pick one and modify it for Hawaii’s unique situation.
I feel bad for the people of Hawaii. It’s a “Company” town and Management isn’t doing so well these days.
Governor Ige is a lame duck. He is term limited. This gives him quite a bit of freedom from pressure groups. He is not going to be removed from office. He will make decisions based on what he thinks is best. He alone makes decisions in Hawaii regarding the return of visitors.
Getting C0vid-19 test results is not the same everywhere. It may not even be possible to get a test without symptoms in places where the virus is raging out of control. If you live in one of places, you may have to quar antine for 14 days.
If you are an American, the places you can go for a vacation are becoming fewer everyday. For whatever reason, some Americans do not want to follow te rules. Where I live in Hawaii, everyone is wearing their face cloth when they are shopping in town. Social distancing is an accepted way of our life. We don’t have any cases on our island.
I’m not sure I would want to fly 5 hours or more in an airplane to get here. Currently 13 Hawaiian Air flight attendants have C0vid-19. 60 more are quarantining.
So, come, quar antine if necessary and enjoy Hawaii
What are your thoughts on whether or not restaurants and activities will be available to travelers in mid August if they test negative? Currently everything seems to be closed at the Marriott we are scheduled to stay at – will this all magically open on 8/1?
Just think … Hawaii is stuck with Gov. Ige for another 2.5 yrs … ugh! Even his top-ranking officials said (anonymously) to Civil Beat that “he’s above his head” with the C0VID-19 stuff and “he’s “indecisive” as well as the fact that, “he’s not a leader.” Need we say more?
I have no problem paying for a c0vid test and I would not want Hawaii to foot the bill either. My family and I take precautions and have all of the items necessary to keep us healthy as well as the awesome people that live on the island and other tourists safe. None of us knows what the future holds and I just want to experience a special bond with my husband and girls in the most beautiful place on earth. 5 days for a c0vid test would work out well for us. I called my doctors office, which they said they are not advertising travel tests but are doing them. You guys might want to call your doctor office too. My issue is it takes 4 days. They also said it takes 4 days for us because we are considered a rural area. If you are in an urban area it may not take as long.
Thank you for keeping us informed Beat of Hawaii!!
Aloha, Pam
Hi Pam.
Thanks!
Aloha.
Thank you for this update. We are hopefully flying direct from Canada to Maui in November. 🍍🍍🍍
Hi Linda.
Thanks.
Aloha.
As long as the 14-day quar antine is in effect based upon test results for the virus, we cannot return to Hawaii. According to our doctors, we are both healthy, which makes us ineligible for virus testing in our state. If we could get tested, results are taking 5-7 days, sometimes longer. And even if we did get test results in time for our flight, there is still the possibility that our temperature reading at the departure airport is off (what if I’m having a hot flash?). We can’t risk losing the $$$$ in travel expenses for airline, hotel and car rental. We are so anxious to get back to our place of birth, but under the current restrictions it won’t happen anytime soon.
So basically NOTHING has changed as to the way camp chaos is being managed or in this case, really isn’t. The old phrase, “crap or get ofc the pot” certainly seems appropriate at this point! Things keep going lije they are and Hawaii will indeed become a pauper state, which somehow seems to keep paying their “do nothing but lip service” politicians! Ah, the benefits of electing the people you have.
I’m sure hoping they change the 72 hour thing to 5 – 7 days. Our flight leaves on a monday. I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t get our results in time over the weekend. Ugh. We fly out of Seattle aug 24th
I would like to thank you for being so clear in your explanations in addressing our concerns. I’m sure all of us love Hawaii and want to keep it safe but we also want to have our vacations there as well. Just keep the updates coming and we will have to work with them.
Hi Cindy.
Thank you!
Aloha.
I think that visitors need to stay away unless they want to totally overwhelm Hawaii’s small infrastructure. We all love Hawaii and want to go. We need to understand that what we love about Hawaii would be totally destroyed if several million people suddenly showed up with C0VID and inundated the hospitals. Hawaiian hospitals would not be able to accommodate such a catastrophe. They are not designed for the kind of volume that would occur if C0VID cases increased dramatically. Better to respect the Governors wishes which are for the protection of the place we love and stay home until a vaccine is developed, or be prepared to isolate for 14 days if you must go. We need to be understanding and patient.
You are right, but too many people won’t exercise patience or self-control. We just got a dose of that this holiday weekend in San Diego. Beaches were closed in Orange County and LA County, because people there had refused to follow guidelines or respect others. So what happened? Huge numbers of “refugees” poured down into San Diego, plus more from Arizona (another hot spot). Beaches and parks were full of people from OC and LA and AZ (how could we tell? From license plates and license plate holders, plus total lack of local knowledge. They refused to wear masks, and they refused to keep physical distance. Now we will be facing a surge here in another couple of weeks. It’s sad, but there are simply too many people who don’t care. They help ruin things in their own area, then go elsewhere when the rules tighten up (due in part to their own behavior).
I feel for the people in Hawai’i who have/had tourism-related jobs but just letting people in isn’t the answer. Many other posters have noted the scientific impossibility of really knowing whether an arriving visitor is a carrier or not. Too many variables.
Maybe there needs to be some thinking outside the box. For example, Hyatt Hotels cash on hand for the quarter ending March 31, 2020 was $1.280 BILLION, a 104.8% increase year-over-year. Hilton Worldwide Holdings cash on hand for the quarter ending March 31, 2020 was $1.805B, a 291.54% increase year-over-year. Maybe these corporations, and others like them, could use some of those billions to help their loyal, underpaid employees who are now jobless through no fault of their own.
Aloha Debbie,
The “Governors wishes” are imploding our economy!!! How are other states who rely heavily on tourism handling it? I believe we can apply safety measures AND greet tourists at the same time. It just takes good leadership strategies working closely with qualified medical experts.
Hello, MP,
The factor you didn’t mention is compliance by tourists. The sad fact is, as we are seeing on the mainland, is that too many people think the rules don’t apply to them, or they just can’t be bothered. Result: no distancing, no masks, more cases of C-19, more hospitalizations, more deaths. This is one reason why medical experts are mostly recommending caution. You can’t blame the governor for that. And his “wish” (like all of us) would be to have everything normal. Unfortunately, C-19 doesn’t operate on wishes.
Aloha and hopefully we can welcome all of you/ My kids have been hre visiting from California. They got tests from Kaiser beore they left. results the next day, no questions asked, no symptoms. After being here for a week, my daughter in law thought she was getting some symptoms, andthe local Kaiseer tested her. She got her (negative) result the next day. So, tests are available, you just needto find out where in your area. I think most of our visitors would be willing to pay for a rapid test, which would be cheaperthan 14 days quar antine, and would allow those with less available vacation time to actually have their Hawaii vacation. As an artist whose inclome from local galleries has dropped to essentially zero, I personally hope that we can get healthy clinets back to buy art. My friends in the hospitality business are eqully hopeful.
Maybe in your state but not mine!
Thank you Beat of Hawaii for keeping us up to date about the travel situation and earlier about how life on Kauai has been.
This whole thing sounds like it will turn into a mess. Requiring a test 72 hours before departure seems risky enough since it still gives a few days to become infected. Extending it to 7 days would seem to be almost useless unless there was also a requirement for strict quar antine between test and travel time. And add to that the fact that you will have visitors that have followed the rules and have had a recent negative test against those visitors who haven’t and then are required to quarantine. How will anyone (such as car rental agencies) know whom to allow a car and whom not to allow a car?
I would think that ultimately the only real answer to keep residents safe would be the requirement of a recent negative test as a condition for staying on the island, say every three or four days. So as long as you’ve had a negative test within 72 to 96 hours you can be out and about. If not then you need to quarantine until you get a new negative test. After 2 or 3 weeks of negative tests then you no longer need to keep getting more tests. I suppose this would not be reasonable since people would balk at this and local test resources are scarce. I really hope that Hawaii doesn’t end up with a runaway epidemic come October.
Hi AW.
Thanks. Yes many questions remain.
Aloha.
Thank you for all the Information and updates. Sadly It is to complicated to fly to Maui or any of the islands at this time even if they change the testing time to five days prior to arrival. I was told
A “Rapid’ test in California could take as much as ten days!! So much for rapid.
With that in mind I cancelled my two week August 19th reservations for Maui this morning. 😥 Hopefully by next summer none of the restrictions will be in place.
Hi Donna.
Thanks.
Aloha.
Wow. Complicated to say the least
My question is what happens if you test positive on arrival? Where do you go? How long will you be there? Who will pay for it all? I can’t imagine any airline would transport you back to the mainland.
You have hit the nail on the head. People are so eager to try to get back to “normal” that they aren’t really thinking things through in detail. One rule of life (Murphy’s law): if something can go wrong, it will.
Aloha and mahaloh for your Hawaii blog. I think most of your readers/comments have been primarily from Californians (which makes sense, since they’re a big part of your vacationers). But what about folks like my wife and I traveling from the East Coast. Typically, we take 1 day to travel to CA, stay overnight and then fly Hawaii Air the next day non-stop to Lihue, Kauai. How would the timing of a C0VID-19 test work for us? Be tested on the East Coast and hope for results before leaving CA?
Hi Tom.
Thanks for your many comments. Your concerns make sense. If the period is extended from 3 to 5 or 7 days, that would help in your situation.
Aloha,
So in order to come to Hawaii and spend money / boost the economy / make memories and have fun, visitors are required to show results of a test. This is the misguided view of the State which is unfortunately only hurting the people of Hawaii.
If you arrive without a test, you get sent back or you quarantine until you can prove you are clear. Both actions raise the risks of blowing a vacation out of the water.
Placing pre-travel or arrival restrictions on visitors is never going to work, no matter how much the State tries to get folks to accept it. No one wants to gamble with their vacations.
Add to that, the number of people in your party increases both the risk and cost of traveling to Hawaii. It’s already not cheap, but now add $160 or more per person to the cost? No thanks.
It only takes one person in your party to fail their test to ruin a long anticipated trip to the islands. False positives are not uncommon. Who wants to take that chance?
Folks on the mainland have choices. We can drive to another state – no test required! We can even fly between states – still no test required!
Better to not spend any money in Hawaii until the State concedes that travel restrictions have to be dropped completely. Only then will airlines and travelers have the confidence to return.
Facts:
In Alaska and Maine, visitors are required to present a recent negative C0VID-19 test.
Fifteen states, meanwhile, require self-quarantines for incoming travelers: Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Nebraska, North Dakota, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island.
In addition, there are state and local rules about masks and distancing, which many visitors selfishly choose to ignore. Living as I do in a tourist area, I’d rather not see people come here to are just trying to avoid restrictions.
And no, people don’t do tourism to boost the economy; they do it for themselves. In any tourist area, that is painfully obvious.
Here’s the biggest elephant that nobody has mentioned. The mainland now has infection rates higher than in the initial pre-shutdown. Western states, with higher visitor counts, are especially impacted. Arizona has an astounding 25% positive test rate and hospitals reaching capacity.
My business (vacation rentals) has been shut down since March, so a revived influx of visitors should be of the highest priority. It isn’t. I realize that introducing the irresponsibility of Governors who re-opened too soon and without a plan would exact the same results in Hawaii.
Tests and temp. checks are a great idea on paper, but with a five hour minimum flight, there’s no guarantee that infections happen enroute and symptoms not appearing for several days.
Many people agree with you. And as long as each area is free to set their own rules, we’ll be playing ‘whack a mole’ with C19 forever.
Mahalo!
Maybe we up here in Canada can “bubble” with Hawaii? We have kept things pretty flat here and god knows we need somewhere to travel to that’s equally flat!
Stay safe over there so we can come back and visit soon.
Hi Michelle.
Oh yeah – the travel bubbles. Thank you.
Aloha.
I would feel the same way too if I had to live in Canada for 12 months a year!
Not a surprise. No Hawaii trips this year. Perhaps next year but not making plans yet.
I too spoke to CVS pharmacies which at this time are literally closing several stores. They deny any “deal” with Hawai’i.
The current testing times are getting longer as do the list of people needing the test.
Most places doing testing will actually laugh at you if you say it’s for travelling to Hawai’i.
This isn’t a laughing matter.
Governor Ige is playing with fire on so many levels.
Here’s to hoping that things get better soon for everyone involved.
Much Aloha to everyone out there and much mahalo to Beat of Hawai’i.
You guys are simply amazing!!🌺
Hi Pam.
Thanks very much! And we appreciate your many comments.
Aloha.
I sure hope the state gets their act together soon. We have reservations for the end of next month. I’d like to know what we need to do and what exactly will be open before we depart. If they can’t get it together we’ll have to start thinking about changing our plans. Unfortunately not in Hawaii
Please read articles about Florida’s getting their “act together”. In other words “live (or die) with it.” Good luck on your chosen destination. We wish you health and a trip to the most beautiful place on earth in the safe future.
Don’t hold your breath….change your plans.
I don’t think our state is any worse than other states as many commenters imply about our leaders. Why come here if we’re so disorganized? Ah yes, because our case count is low and you love our beaches. Our leaders have no crystal ball and the vast majority of our residents are satisfied at how things are going here…even those who are out of work. No one has past experience with pandemics to draw up a concrete plan because look what’s happening on the Mainland.
I too had to cancel a long-awaited vacation to Japan–my very first trip to my ancestral country. Disappointing, but I just accepted this and not whining about it. Not grumbling about Japan banning foreign visitors. Just being patient DURING THIS UNPRECEDENTED PANDEMIC.
Ask yourself what’s best for EVERYONE, not just for your own pleasure. In the long run you will hopefully realize your stressing about a VACATION is utterly trivial.
P.S. Yes we are suffering financially, but the consensus here is better that then dealing with an explosion of disease. Please cancel your plans for now and let’s all be patient. Thank you.
Aloha Kalina,
I am being critical of politicians, not the good people of Hawaii. You are quite correct that the United States’ response to this Pandemic is not going to make the highlight reel at the annual UN Ball.
I deal with businesses small and large, and the worse thing for business is uncertainty. That is my main concern. It’s not enough for the Governor to make vague promises that may not hold up in August. In the end, Government and Business have to work together. There needs to be leadership issuing clear and realistic guidelines that businesses can rely upon when investing resources. Otherwise, the outcome in August may be disappointing to all.
Finally, I hope you get to come to Japan. Japan is opening up and we are seeing hotspots as people are hitting the bars and clubs. One nice thing is that most people are wearing masks. Forget Social Distancing, it’s a polite fiction and impossible in public places. Japanese are staying home this year.
I’m an American living with my family in Ehime, Japan and have family in California, Texas, East Coast, and Puerto Rico. So I’m covering a lot of bases!
Wishing you the best!
“Japan is opening up and we are seeing hotspots as people are hitting the bars and clubs.” This doesn’t seem like an attraction for visitors. We’ve been looking at a lot of Japanese sites from Honshu to Amami. They all have prominent travel restrictions notifications on their first page. There’s no reason to fly around during this worldwide critical situation. Travelers can get C19, they can spread C19, and the entire experience is just too different. In addition, the last thing Japan needs is more breaking the rules. Because that is what they will do.
What would you define as ‘getting their act together?” Opening up so that they can get the terrible results of states like Arizona, California, Florida and others that are experiencing serious surges?
My concern would be if you tested positive, would that be too late to receive any refunds for airfare, car rental, condo rentals, etc….. We are planning a 3 week stay in October, we are first time visitors but has been on our bucket list for a long time and we have already rescheduled from our planned May trip this year.
Thank you so much for the information you give as it is the most useful information we have found.
Hi Jenny.
Thank you. Good question. What we know is that airlines will refund if you have a temperature. We have not heard a word about refunds regarding test results.
Aloha.
I’m curious as to how many folks here are trying to get to the islands as soon as possible and how many are waiting for more concrete news (vaccine, reduced rates on the mainland etc.)?
JC – My wife and I had a 3-week vacation planned for Kauai in May to view condos, as we plan to retire in Kauai. Obviously, that didn’t happen. Right now I suspect we will “wait it out” until there is a vaccine. Since we’re both in our mid-60’s the risk just doesn’t make sense, especially since we’re coming from the East Coast. Ironically, my wife is a Level 1 ER/Trauma Manager and has been in the front lines of this. God Bless Her.
Mahalo for your wisdom in waiting it out. Your consideration is appreciated. Your wife no doubt understands that this is not a little flu. With over 3 million people infected on the mainland USA, Hawaii is doing its best to protect its people and its health care facilities from thousands of new incidents that are completely avoidable if people weren’t so self centered. There is more at stake than their vacation. Aloha!
We have reservations for 8/8 and eagerly waiting for more specifics on testing prior to departure.
We also have reservations for Aug. 8. Waiting to hear more news about what to plan on!
After holding out for several months, today, my family canceled our trip to Kauai at the end of August. Our concern is the required testing, which is not available in our area unless a doctor orders it. We’re planning on going to the U.S. Virgin Islands instead. We appreciate all the information from Beat of Hawaii. It’s helped keep us informed on what is going on in our favorite vacation spot.
Hi Lo.
Thank you.
Aloha.
I very much appreciate your updates. It’s a trying time. Who would have thought when I purchased my airline tickets for Aug 6 that this pandemic would have still been an issue? I really thought it was going to bre in the rearview by now. I’m torn between canceling and traveling, learning toward canceling for obvious reasons.
Thank you for all the good info!
Hi Kim.
Thank you. We definitely relate to the uncertainty. It isn’t all that clear even being here in the ground. That’s the new world to a large degree it seems. Once there is the next update from the state, stakeholders may feel more certain. That should translate to more things reopening.
Aloha.
We are trying to get to Maui “as soon as possible.” So far, we have rebooked our original trip in May to July, and now mid-August. Our daughter and her husband live there and I usually go twice a year to visit. It’s difficult for this momma to go much more than 6 months without seeing the kids.
It looks like you’re asking for responses, so here’s ours:
We had our ‘trip of a lifetime’ to Hawai’i planned for May 2020 (the entire month). Obviously we did not go. We’re not even thinking about plans for a re-schedule. There’s no point; everything is too unsettled. Hawai’i will still be there no matter what. And we’re not making alternative plans, either. We have no need or desire to travel, just for the sake of travel. There are plenty of productive ways to spend free time near home. In addition, this isn’t the best time to spend thousands of dollars on travel. That money might come in handy for a variety of reasons.
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How confident would you be in a trip to Kaui, then Maui that was scheduled in December for August 2, 2020 ? We live in California and have a C0vid-19 test date for all 6 of us from Kaiser Healthcare on July 30, 2020. They claim their test results would be ready digitally in 24-36 hours ? We have reservations in Timeshares we own, will the locals be ready for a few visitors ?
What form of test results will airlines accept?
Probably not an electronic form. Easily forged.
Glen P., I read that an email notification was adequate within the stated timeframe.
I look forward to visiting Hawai’i again… after there’s a vaccine. In the meantime, air travel is a no-go and I’ll be buying gift certificates to all my favorite Hawai’i destinations.
That’s a good idea. It helps to off load the costs on the front end while supporting local businesses. I’ll look into that as well.
Michael. you may want to be very careful about buying those gift certificates just yet. I have a feeling Hawaii we have all come to know and love will look very different by the time things actually start to open up. It would not surprise me if many of those favorite destinations never open back up. I know a couple of our favorites are already gone for good. It is happening all over the mainland, so I can only imagine how devastating this shutdown has been for the local businesses.