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I will not feel safer. There are many “vaccinated” people getting Covid, so I don’t think that getting the shots is a cure or a reason to feel safer.
A friend was fully vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine months ago, contracted COVID last month, was in the hospital with a 102 fever, shortness of breath. He’s out now but still has lung issues and general weakness. A nurse friend in Florida said not to believe all the crap on TV about only the unvaccinated getting hospitalized. She said the majority of COVID cases they are seeing are among vaccinated individuals. And vaccinated people can still carry the virus asymptomatically and spread it to others. So just requiring proof of vaccine to fly won’t mean that those on board aren’t carrying the virus.
That’s not even remotely true that the “majority of hospitalized Covid patients are vaccinated” and your “nurse friend in Florida” is mistaken or lying. There are a lot of people spreading lies right now to counter the simple fact that the vaccines greatly reduce your chance of catching Covid and if you are one of the unlucky few that are breakthrough cases you have a very small chance of needing hospitalization relative to the unvaccinated.
John,
You’re absolutely correct about all the misinformation, lies, and anecdotal evidence that’s flying around, especially on social media. The numbers vary state to state, and states with lower vaccination rates have higher numbers of breakthrough cases simply because there’s more virus floating around in that state. However, on average, for those states who are actually reporting numbers, the number of breakthrough cases is about 1% or less. The number of hospitalizations is about 0.05%, and the number of deaths is nearly nil. So that means if you are vaccinated, you have a 99% chance of not catching COVID at all, a 99.45% chance of not ending up in the hospital, and virtually no chance of dying. Just to give you an example if the difference. In CA, you are 7.1 times more likely to catch COVID if you are unvaccinated, and 17.4 times more likely to die from COVID if you are unvaccinated. So, let’s pull this back to what BOH is meant for, which is a discussion of travel to Hawai’i. What all those numbers mean, is that if I’m on a flight to Hawai’i, and I’m sitting next to someone with CIVID on the flight and I’m vaccinated, I have a 99% chance of not even catching COVID. Now, if you add masks to that equation, my odds of not catching COVID are even better. On the other hand, if I’m NOT vaccinated, then my chances of catching COVID are 7X that. So, personally, I would feel MUCH better if I were vaccinated. But also, I’m much more sure that the guy next to me doesn’t have COVID either. There’s a 99% chance he doesn’t! So, that’s the reason that requiring everyone be vaccinated on a flight, especially as long as one to Hawai’i, is so important.
Think again. Fully vaccinated wearing masks vs. unvaccinated, some belligerent refusing to mask on a 5-12 hour plane flight. Logic usually wins the day.
Fred, let’s be clear, “many people” is a bit misleading. The breakthrough case rate varies depending on how prevalent the virus is in any particular area. Thus, states with low vaccination rates have more virus running around, and thus a higher rate of breakthrough cases. On average, however, the number is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1%. The rate of hospitalization for those with breakthrough cases is somewhere near 0.05%. and the deaths are nearly nil. When you compare that to the unvaccinated, well, it becomes obvious that getting vaccinated is your best protection from getting seriously ill or dying from COVID. Therefore, anything that we can go to encourage more people to get vaccinated, the better. If that means making it impossible for people to fly unless they are vaccinated, then fine. Keep in mind that we’ve tied “asking nicely”, and pretty much topped out those who responded positively. Since that’s not enough people to get us close to herd immunity, that means that now we need to start to employ other methods to get people to get the jab. Employers are coming around to that, and now there’s this bill to ensure that everyone who files (nearly) is vaccinated. Seems like a good idea to me since I would REALLY like to be able to get back to something near “normal” again some day.
I’m visiting now big island hanging with the grandkids…my plan is to fly back home first week of December…well you keep us post on forced vaccine to get on a plane I have a home that I want to get back to might be forced to change my plans this is really starting to make me mad .I do not agree with forcing anybody to take a vaccine that is not a cure all I do not to be forced to put something in my messed up body i can’t take man made synthetic stuff…I can’t even take the flu vaccine my body my mind my soul
Mahalo
Please keep us posted
Going to wright my federal representative
Thank you again
Julie,
Did you read the article? The bill in Congress now requires you to either be vaccinated, have a recent negative test, or have recovered from COVID. I still don’t understand the vaccine hesitancy that people have, but in your case, you won’t be forced to be vaccinated, just to prove you don’t have the virus via a recent test. This is much like Safe Travels which you had to go through in order to avoid quarantine when you travelled to Hawai’i in the first place.
Vaccinations or negative test. All vaccinated would be too difficult.
It’s about time.
I think it is telling that 64% support this requirement, and the nationwide vaccination rate, with at least 1 shot, is 65.1% (washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/health/covid-vaccine-states-distribution-doses/). I think those of us who are vaccinated are tired of waiting for the social benefits, eating in restaurants, less anxiety traveling, etc. Those are being held up by those that refuse to be vaccinated. The health benefits of the vaccine are automatic, but the other benefits are being held back. It is time to make those withheld benefits someone else’s cost.
unvaccinated people arent holding anything up
overarching useless regulators are holding all these things up
Yes!!!!!!
Aloha BOH Bro’s
We are on Maui at the resort traveled here from Sacramento on Hawaiian couldn’t have gone smoother.
On Hawaiian we received our wristbands when we checked in at their ticket counter.
Getting ready to jump into the pool, get an adult beverage and sit in jacuzzi.
Hi Richard.
Glad you made it safely and easily. Have a great time!
Aloha.
I think it’s a good thing having people vaccinated if traveling by plane (or long distance bus or train). Long distances in a closed environment, yeah, I’ll probably still wear my mask even if they eventually say it’s optional.
A lot of folks are saying natural immunity negates the need for vaccination. There are records of those having COVID twice – so much for natural immunity. I did have COVID pre-vaccinations and have been vaccinated (now boostered!). Sure, even with shots, I can get COVID, but a milder case. I think when everyone gets their shots, it may help contain or restrain these mutating variations that can be worse than the current Delta circulating now.
There are many more records of those getting COVID after having been vaccinated. Again, the vaccines and the boosters were developed against the original spike protein. They do not provide antibodies against the variants as natural immunity does. Latest studies also show that the protection from vaccines wanes after seven months, while natural immunity can last years, possibly a lifetime. So, semiannual boosters will be required for those who choose to be vaccinated, and because of their limited effectiveness against the variants, that protection will be iffy at best.
Dot, you do realize that those with naturally acquired antibodies, if they were to get covid again (a “breakthrough” type of case), they will likely have a much more mild case, right? Also, please realize that naturally acquired antibodies are MORE effective than the jab, and tend to protect against Delta and other variants better than any of the shots do. So your argument, in view of all of the facts, is circular and self-defeating at best. So choose your own destiny, but please don’t ignore that those making decisions that are different than your own may work much better for them (ie: it’s safer for children to get and recover from covid than it is to get the jab, especially when you consider the case infection rates and possibility that they may never get covid).
I think this is just going to hurt the travel and tourist industry again. I maybe vaccinated but I disagree with it being it madatory. How many people are contracting Covid on the planes? I’m pretty sure there’s some kind of numbers. With the masl mandate on the planes this should be good enough.
I am so happy we were able to visit the Big Island on June with most of our family. As I do not see us coming back.
I really appreciated have you guys help us through this and tell many others about BOH when I know they are heading to Hawaii.
Hi Eileen.
Thank you. We appreciate your comments.
Aloha.
We registered our information and downloaded our vaccination cards to the Hawaii Safe Travel account? We leave in 12 days, when will we get our wristbands from the airlines?
Susan… you get wrist back fat airport checkin. Remember to do the Health Questionnaire no more than 34 hours in advance. That’s when you get the green check mark they will be looking for.
You have to fill out the questionnaire no more than 24 hours prior to travel.
You have to fill the questionnaire out no more than 24 hours prior to flight time.
Which airline are you flying & where are you flying from?
Aloha Rob and Jeff. Yes I would definitely be more confident and relaxed if everyone on board the plane is vaccinated. It’s only a matter of time when this will happen. I am going to wear 2 masks on my flight next week. I also am going to bring my own snacks and buy water before I board the plane.