44 thoughts on “Will Hawaii Health Dept. Official Be Fired: Recommended Horse Wormer for Covid?”

    1. I mean, at first, this seems mildly comical. Until, you consider the latest push of the now “FDA approved COVID vaccine.” The smear job against those who now “have no excuse to get jabbed.” Yet, as it relates to my time in Hawai’i, look at the deep ties that the FDA has had with Monsanto. Now look at the bill that was passed by Maui County voters, while I lived there, in 2014….banning GMO crops until they were properly studied. Which, when Monsanto, who was always accustomed to being able to have their way with the islands(and who had spent untold amounts of money in an attempt to sway voters)lost and then cried foul in court, the then Maui mayor tucked tail and refused his responsibility(as leader of the county) to defend the implementation of said bill.
      This isn’t the forum to type a treatise on what Monsanto is about. But, if anyone has actually lived in the islands, loved the islands, then you know.
      And now the FDA is telling me to take this vaccine? Healthy?
      Nah. 🏃🏃🏃
      Sad comedy indeed. 😥

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  1. Aloha guys.
    This is a witch hunt. That drug has been used in humans for a long time at the correct dosage. Lots of people I respect have taken it safely as a treatment for covid. I don’t know if I would but….this is a knee jerk reaction…throw the baby out with the bath water. Do some research. you will find out like it did that is it not the horror that the media is proposing..it is how it is being used.
    Thanks
    Ane T

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  2. Once again, here we go, politics over reality. Medical doctors no less arguing what is right and what is wrong. I applaud Dr Pang for his boldness in declaring his views. The fact that he did so, should have caused further, SERIOUS discussion about efficacy and FACTS on both perspectives. Instead Hawaii’s politicians are quick to condemn anything and anyone that contradicts their ‘opinions’. Make quick unjustifiable decisions that brings continued confusion, pain to Hawaii’s citizens and ohana ande visitors. Just goes to show how far we have come as a people and country not willing to argue points in a safe environment. I support Dr Pang’s view and THANK YOU for your courage.

    If anyone should be removed it’s Gov. Ige!!!

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  3. As noted in several comments below, allow one, rogue “medical professional” to spout anti-vax rhetoric, then recommend two dangerous drugs for humans as a palliative, and this sets off those who would recommend a drug when used by humans to treat parasites (lice, river blindness,etc.)

    Ivermectin is not and never will be useful against a virus. Parasites – Viruses. Two totally different organisms.

    Please not that even the BOH boys stated their reluctance to treat their horse with Ivermectin.

    1. The FDA will never Admit that it is useful to fight Covid. I have first-hand proof that it Does work. I’m disappointed that you think your only hope is big government and big Pharma pushing this vaccine as the Only way to combat and prevent Covid.

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      1. You should know that Ivermectin is as big a Big Pharma drug (Merck) as it gets. If Merck were interested in profit, don’t you think that they would be pushing their drug as a Covid treatment? Here’s what they said about Ivermectin:

        “No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;

        No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;

        A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

        We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.

        If you are also against taking a drug (mRNA or J&J) that was on EUA, why on god’s green earth would you go off-approval to take a drug intended to treat parasites?

        So now, do you believe the company that produced the drug?

        1. its been off patent for decades. theres no money to be made by merck, the majority of it is manufactured in china and india and the pills sell for literally pennies

          the vaxxes fetch upwards of $30 each

          1. So, now I assume that you must be Big Pharma expert, have inside information about which Big Pharma drug is profitable, how much the R&D recovery costs might be, what the margins for Big Pharma drugs say about which are profitable and which are not.

            You seem to be responding to anything that makes your argument against getting vaccinated valid, no matter how twisted the pretzel.

  4. Aloha,

    I love you guys and eagerly await each day’s BOH update. Many times they have helped me negotiate these crazy times while traveling back and forth from the mainland to our beloved Big Island home.

    That’s why I am so disappointed to read today’s missive denigrating ivermectin as simply a “horse wormer”. Since I have read this same description on several highly-biased sites it is even more saddening.

    Simply stating facts without getting political, ivermectin has been used by many, many millions of people (not horses) around the globe for decades as a safe, effective anti-parasitic drug. It is also a component of protocols recommended by highly decorated and respected physicians for other uses.

    Certainly no one should use the veterinary version of this medication. I doubt that is what Dr. Pang is suggesting. Josh Green as an ER physician is no doubt capable of truly “following the science” so one must wonder….

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    1. Hi Mike.

      We too look forward to you guys commenting. As you might know, BOH has a real mascot horse and we are cautious about even giving her Ivermectin. In any event, the reaction of multiple officials in the state, and the CDC statement on it in relation to Covid was clear and it is on that we are reporting. We know there are human uses for correct dosage of the drug as an anti-parasitic, rather than for this application. We added references to that in the post, as a result of your comment.

      Aloha.

    2. YES, YES YES!!

      It is baffling to me how many people jump on the bandwagon and beat this guy up because they think he’s recommending the veterinary drug. They make it for humans too, people!!

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  5. Stop sensationalizing and labeling Ivermectin as only a Horse Dewormer. At the correct dose it has been used on humans for decades and is FDA approved for multiple treatments.

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    1. Thank you JM for the short and succinct and truthful explanation – Ivermectin has been used world over on humans – the FDA has approved it for use on humans – it is strange that now FDA is trying to ridicule its use – “thou dost protest too much” – Personally I applaud Pang for stepping up and giving alternatives( the best form of science by the way) – there is no “one way” in this particular ‘experiment’ – – there is much more than meets the eye here and we should be open to alternatives and other perspectives.

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      1. Science? Where is the peer-reviewed, or even prepublication of a study on the efficacy of ivermectin on Covid-19?

    2. I’ll stop sensationalizing as soon as comments like yours are finally put to bed> Once again to quote the FDA(for all to see in the story): “You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously y’all. Stop it.” — FDA Twitter.

      If you had actually completed your claim, you would have said that lower doses are used to treat worms, lice, and river blindness. It is used to treat PARASITES. It is not an anti-viral drug.

      1. That tweet was probably from some intern at the FDA. Do your own research. Google Ivermectin and Covid-19. You’ll find plenty of supporting evidence that it works. I know it works firsthand. My wife treated herself with it and felt much better within 90 minutes of taking it and was pretty much symptom-free after about 5 days. I took Ivermectin as a prophylactic and never got Covid. The key to it is getting the right dosage for your weight…which safe levels of Ivermectin can be found on mayoclinic.org.

        1. Read my comment regarding your earlier rant about “Big Pharma”. Tell all of us what Merck said about their own drug, Ivermectin, as a treatment for Covid. Please stop posting baseless, non-science supported, anecdotal comments about a drug with dangerous side effects when not used for its intended purpose.

  6. The problem is that people are self-administering ivermectin at doses suitable for horses. Normal dosage for humans is just fine. And evidence is piling up on the efficacy of ivermectin, with some 24 well-designed studies.

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    1. Millions of people world wide, have safely been administered a proven aid for deterring Sars2 CoV19. It’s free, effective,and at least in our country, EASY to find.

      What could possibly be the inspiration to go down the ivermectin path?

      (Edited – warning on not adhering to https://beatofhawaii.com/comment-policy/).

    2. Perhaps you don’t trust the FDA. Read the story.

      Human dosage Ivermectin treats PARASITES. It never has been nor ever will be effective against a virus.

      1. Perhaps we don’t trust the FDA? You could say that. Even a cursory censored Google search will turn up countless examples of blunders by this compromised behemoth.

        Pointing out the obvious, that a virus is not a parasite, proves nothing and does not preclude a compound working against both. As others have stated, in countries not burdened by censorship, corporate dominance and political complicity, this medication has been used successfully (at the right time with the right dosage).

        1. Then show me either your medical license or double blind studies that prove your point. You won’t be able to, and I doubt your medical credentials.

          To illustrate the dangerous point of any medical person recommending horse parasitic medicine, your post and others could have influenced my immuno-compromised friend who went to our local clinic after contacted by her doctor that she had potentially been exposed to CV-19. There, citing the same point of this article about Pang, he prescribed Ivermectin. She was not even proven infected by the virus, and he was willing to expose her to disastrous results.

          Please quit listening to the echo chamber that created injected bleach, ultraviolet light, Hydrocloroquine and Invermectin. If you have followed recent results from mostly the southern states, callers in Louisiana and Mississippi in particular have flooded the poison control hotlines, and doctors are begging people not to listen to these unfounded claims.

          1. James B

            My husband and I were prescribed HCQ after testing positive for covid-19. We are forever grateful for the doctor who treated us. We recovered within 2 weeks, completely! My personal experience.

          2. And Lisa, I am thrilled that you and your husband recovered. Most, ~97-99% recover because their body’s immune response is stronger than the viral load. Just because there was a simultaneity between your diagnosis, taking HCQ, and your recovery, there is no way you nor your doctor can ascribed a causal relationship between HCQ and Covid recovery.

            Please tell us. Were you/are you reluctant to take a now fully approved vaccine that has reams of research data about its efficacy? If so, then why are you so eager to take a dangerous medicine when used off-label and against FDA and CDC data?

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