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Remove All of the government stipends for treating CoVid patients and just watch how fast those hospitalization numbers drop! Until that nonsense stops this nonsense will not stop!
I live on Kauai and I am working a temp job in an older building with poor ventilation using portable AC units in use because their older AC doesn’t work properly. Many of the buildings on Kauai were built before 1980, some as far back as the 1940s. I think the state needs funding to address building ventilation and infrastructure issues now, since COVID and possibly future pandemics are ongoing. Just my opinion.
Kaui has a ton of covid $ AND taxes from transient accommodations, so where does all the money go? Ask the Gov.. they destroyed $22Million in expired covid tests here on Maui, that’s right, twenty two million last week, waste of $ trust your elected officials.. not
Calm down! Please
I am sorry for the editors and all of the people of and on Kauai that you are going through this. I hope the spike is short lived. I’m sure we all hope this is over quickly for you all.
Thank you,
Gary
The CDC has become a political arm of the Biden Administration. That organization has zero credibility after all their false and misleading statements, mandates and propaganda spit out over the past two and a half years. 99 % of the masks people wear are less than 3% effective from preventing anyone from catching the common cold much less anything else.
People with preexisting conditions, especially respiratory should take precautions, but 99.9 % of us have little to worry about. )
There is actual information to be found on the Internet. It’s not all stuff made up by crazy people, you should try it.
You’re right, PEGM:
cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf
That’s true, there is, but there’s also a FLOOD of misinformation, disinformation, and just plain generally crazy stuff as well. So how do you navigate all that? My approach is to only believe what’s published by medical professionals that are working in the field of epidemiology, etc. and only look at studies that have been peer reviewed. I also follow the advice of my Dr. and public health professionals. I tend to ignore all of the “I did my own research” folks who got their degree from Google U.
I think the there are about 1 million people in this country that would disagree with you the COVID is no big deal. Well, that is if they weren’t dead from COVID…
You are going to see the vaccinated getting the virus in the next few months, look at the data, look at countries that have higher % of vaccinated those countries are getting the virus at a greater rate. Masks do not work. Get yourself healthy, lose weight, take vitamins D and zinc. Stay well. We unfortunately needed herd immunity, instead we got an experiment, that is not working.
Well Bonnie, pretty much the entire Medical research community and Medical profession will say the vaccines are very effective at preventing hospitalization and death. I’ll go with them rather then “Bonnie on the Internet” personally I have seen an increase of people I know that have been getting Covid here on Oahu. The vaccinated ones it seems last 2-3 days, the one unvaccinated person was in his 20’s and was sick for over a week and still feels less then 100% but isn’t bad.
Also Bonnie, Your mask statement should read cloth masks are less effective and improperly worn masks don’t work, however a properly worn N95 or KN 95 is very effective…or do you think all those Doctors and Nurses who wear them are mistaken? You are correct that a healthy lifestyle is a great preventative measure, however it’s so sad that some people are willing to throw the less fortunate under the bus because their life circumstances hasn’t afforded them the opportunity to eat healthy and exercise. It’s way to simplistic to say just eat better and exercise and you’ll be fine like me. Narcissistic even.
John – Masks, even N-95 masks, are not effective against viruses. Viruses are so small, they freely move through all masks. You should stop spreading fear. I do not know a Doctor that wears a mask when we are not in the Hospital. The best prevention is eating healthy food, getting sunshine for natural vitamin D3, lose unnecessary weight and take Zinc, D3, C and Quercietin supplements to super charge your immune system.
Well Beachbob, the Mayo Clinic, the Harvard Medical school and all the other top Medical Research Facilities have a different opinion than you. I’ll go with them. I am curious, what is your source?
Sorry if that sounds a little harsh but when you know someone that bought into anti vax misinformation and died as result you may see things a little differently. Why do you think those Doctors you mentioned wear an N95 at work if they are ineffective?
Who is throwing the less fortunate under the bus? People need to be aware of what is happening, the virus is not going away, so what can we do, get healthy, stay safe and look for early treatments. Doctors need to treat the unhealthy early in the virus. We can not live in fear, you cannot close down society again. This virus has a 99+% rate of survival, we all had great hope for the vaccine, unfortunately it hasn’t panned out exactly as promised.
Herd immunity is our only way out of this pandemic.
There are many people working 2 or 3 jobs raising a family that simply don’t have the time, resources or circumstances to live the healthy lifestyle that you are saying they should. It may be easy for you, but for many it’s not. I do agree we can’t go back to shutting down again, the people that are still dying are mostly the unvaxed and have chosen to take that chance. However trying to spread the lie that the vaccine doesn’t work has cost a lot of lives by the people who were vulnerable to that false narrative. Everything you say about what we can do is true, it just leaves out the best defense is in fact the vaccine.
According to peer-reviewed medical studies, the vaccines are not effective. I find it even more interesting that the medical studies funded by the pharmaceutical companies (that are not peer-reviewed) show the vaccines work. That is a conflict of interest.
Could you please name those peer reviewed studies. I’ld love to take a look at them as all I’ve seen are ones that show that the vaccines are safe, and effective at preventing serious illness and/or death in most people.
Well you heard it here first, BeachBobs peers say the vaccines don’t work….somebody better tell the Mayo Clinic, and Harvard Medical School and any other respected authority on the subject that knows how to actually do research they are wrong…Bob you are trying to spread misinformation that has already killed 10’s of 1000’s of people. The vaccines have saved many lives, many others have died because they weren’t vaccinated yet you want to prevent people from making the personal choice that could save their life.
Hey John, why don’t you take the time to read Marsha M. comment above. Both her and her husband got the shot, 2 boosters, wore the N95 masks and still got covid. Tell me again how effective they are?
Yes, and they’re not Dead.
Peg,
Per Ed, “Both her and her husband got the shot, 2 boosters, wore the N95 masks and still got covid.”
Per you, “Yes, and they’re not Dead.”
We don’t know why they aren’t dead. Most people who get COVID, vaxxed or not, don’t die from it.
To suggest that all their precautions prevented a more serious outcome is circumstantial at best. I, probably you, and most on this forum are just stating opinions and links to govt resources that have an interest in supporting the administration’s position. As I’ve written before I’ve had 3 shots so far, so I’m no ant-vaxxer. I just don’t know if the shots are as good as we all hope. And, does the govt have the right to force them…
PEGM, Neither are I, or my wife. We both came down with covid in January of this year. Neither one of us have taken the shot. We both took Ivermectin, Vitamins D3, C and Zinc. On the third morning we were as good as new. So getting covid does not mean you will die if you haven’t taken the shot. So quit the fear mongering!
This is exactly the kind of misinformation that’s getting spread that’s a danger to public health. Ivermectin, as I said earlier, isn’t indicated as a treatment for COVID. It’s been studied, and how to not only not help, but can be dangerous depending on where you get it. Hers’s a statement from the FDA on the subject: fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
Also, just because YOU got COVID and didn’t die, doesn’t mean that the next person that you spread it to won’t get seriously ill or die.
Joerg H., For every study you produce that says Ivermectin does not work, I will produce one that says it does. Watch the interview with Dr. Bryan Ardis titled “Watch the Water”. If you are serious about wanting to combat disinformation and are actually open to all of the possibilities of what is actually going on, please watch it.
See my answer above. I’m all for personal choice but don’t get why anti vax people have to spread misinformation to try and undermine the Medical Profession’s unanimous point that the vaccine has saved 10’s of 1000’s of lives. It’s a great defense against Covid as is a healthy lifestyle. Making your own choice is fine, but I have a problem with people spreading anti vax misinformation when people vulnerable to conspiracy theories are dying because they chose not to get vaccinated.
“Medical Profession’s unanimous point” Unanimous – really?
Rod W., like I said earlier: There are a lot of “opinionated people” on here, that think they have all of the answers. Just today I read that while Heart problems from the shots were in the Hundreds, Blood Clotting problems are in the Thousands. In “normal” times, they would have stopped the shots a long time ago. But these are no longer normal times! So where does that leave us? Who knows but I can only say for myself that I don’t trust anyone from the Government.
Ed,
Good point. Heck, 2 problems reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)and that year/model will be recalled.
But, these pols have so much invested in control they will never back off.
Gotta give them a good whipping on November 8.
Rod
Amen Rod!
Also Ed did you take the time to read Marsha’s post? The part about the symptoms being mild? That’s what the vaccine does with the breakthrough cases, that’s why the direct correlation between the higher the vaccine rate the lower the death rate.
Gotta go, Bill Gates is tracking me😀
John – you spread fear with no experience or accurate knowledge about this subject (I can tell by how you speak you are not in healthcare). Only look at “peer-reviewed” studies. We are being manipulated for money and power. Healthcare has been threatened to keep quiet. You are the one spreading disinformation and with no professional experience.
Actually Bob…you are the one spreading fear of the vaccine…..you have no idea what my connection to the Medical community is or how many relatives I have that are well qualified to speak on the subject. The vaccines have saved a lot of lives. Make your own choice but trying to talk people out of a potential lifesaving choice is unconscionable. You are far less vulnerable to dying from Covid if you follow a healthy lifestyle and get vaccinated. Beyond that I recommend getting on with your life and put the fear that’s been generated these last couple years behind you. The anti vax movement is rife with misinformation, that should tell you something.
I don’t know who’s right and wrong and it may be none of us on this forum.
But, can someone check the numbers (I just can’t)? So, how many Americans dies in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021. And, the total population of the USA in those years. Then I will be able to draw some meaningful conclusions.
Mahalo,
Rod
Bob, for the record you are actually saying the overwhelming majority of healthcare professionals and the medical research community are only saying that the vaccines are very effective at preventing death because they feel threatened??? By who? You really believe that? That’s truly an amazing perspective…Auwe!
BeachBob, truer words were never spoken. But you may as well talk to a wall because you will get the same response. I am glad to hear that I am not the only one that doesn’t buy into the narrative!
All that proves is that the vaccine is doing its job and keeping people from getting AS sick and/pr dying. This is the reason that inspite of the increase in cases, we aren’t seeing an equal increase in hospitalization and/or deaths. If more people were vaccinated and boosted, the uptick in hospitalizations and deaths would be even less.
John – People can choose what the want to do. If they want to get a unproven medical experiment (it is not a vaccine by definition- look it up) injected into them or wear a mask on their face or on their head, that is their free choice. It is you that is trying to convince people to get the jab and wear masks.
Please stop scaring people! Hawaii is open and provides the best experiences this world has to offer. In living life, we should be cautious, but never fearful. Aloha.
Bob I totally agree with your final sentence. All I’m saying is the vaccine is safe and how wrong it it is to spread misinformation to prevent people from getting it. The CDC states that you are 10 times more likely to die from Covid if you are unvaccinated. Here’s a quote from my above post…
“You are far less vulnerable to dying from Covid if you follow a healthy lifestyle and get vaccinated. Beyond that I recommend getting on with your life and put the fear that’s been generated these last couple years behind you. “ How is that spreading fear?
John – we won’t know for years what the COVID shots do to the human body. The J & J shot was recently taken off the market and no one knows how mRNA shots will effect human DNA or the human body in general. These determinations take years and decades to know.
Good job Bob!
Long live Kauai!
All the best to every positive thinking person.
Mahalo Nui Loa:)
Hey BeachBob, it is a shame that people are giving you “thumbs down” for telling the truth. Shows how many have been hoodwinked!
The only ones that are being hoodwinked here are folks like you. The vaccines are safe and effective, and the only way we have a chance to “get back to normal”. Spreading FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) about them on social media isn’t helping in that effort.
Thanks Ed! Too many people allow other people to think for them, instead of coming to conclusions on their own. Also, people are overly sensitive theses days and want to interfere in others lives like wearing masks. If masks were effective against viruses (which they are not), then people who want to wears masks should “feel” comforted that they are protecting from getting COVID. Unfortunately, these same people believe in the illogical fallacy that “if you wear a mask, then I won’t get COVID”. Everyone should choose with their own decision on whether they want to wear a mask or get the shots. No one has the right to tell anyone what they can and cannot do and that applies to both sides of the discussion.
I would agree with you if the consequences of your “choice” only effected You. Sure, don’t take any precaution if it’s only your health/life you are impacting. Unfortunately, this is a virus that your choice would help spread to Others, thus your choice impacts other people, making your “choice” a self centered one that doesn’t take into consideration those around you. If you want to live in a civilized society, sometime you have to do things for the “greater good” that you might not like.
Joerg – Our Constitution provides freedom to individuals over groups of people. If you believe your shots and masks work, then you have every right to protect yourself in that way and I support that right. If you protect yourself, then you do not need to demand or ask anyone else to follow your your decisions. Be free to make your owns choices and allow others to be free to make their own choices too.
Our freedom to “do as we please” isn’t unlimited. If it were it would be anarchy, which is exactly what you are advocating. If you want that, I suggest that you buy an island somewhere (not Hawaii). If you want to live in a civilized society then there are certain things that you may have to do that you don’t like. Vaccines work, masks work, and both are needed when there’s a pandemic. Spreading FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) on social media just prolongs how long the rest of us have to deal with this.
Time to quit repeating the clichés Joerg! No one is buying it. BeachBob is correct.
Joerg…brah, you do realize our bodies were made to fight off viruses right? Our bodies were made that way so when a new virus comes out it doesn’t kill off the entire human race. When you are telling everyone they are spreading misinformation because it doesn’t meet your current view, please make sure you also acknowledge the other side of the science which is our bodies natural immune systems. There is so much information out there and so many personal experiences, why be so close minded cousin?
Can’t think of anyone that was forced to get the vaccine. It was rightfully made a requirement in certain fields…..hospitals , airlines police and fire etc were having Covid could adversely effect the safety of others and the job is one that all kinds of regulations are the norm and justified. Obviously you couldn’t keep soldiers that thought it was ok to disobey orders based on what they read on Facebook, but beyond that it has been a free choice. I do support that, believe it or not.
John, Freedom of choice doesn’t end when you work for any of the agencies you mentioned. Same with the Military, because many decided not to get the shots, you immediately accuse them of listening to people on line. Why can’t it be that they made their decision based on their own beliefs and experiences? Why does it have to be as you are inferring?
Because Ed, it undermines what the Military requires to succeed., following orders. These people had already taken vaccinations but for some reason they decided against this one. Purely political or purely misinformation from online, but the bottom line is soldiers can’t pick and choose what they will or won’t do. They have an important mission and their battle readiness is crucial. …Slippery slope when the Internet or Cable News can dictate what our troops do.
Also Ed, freedom of choice doesn’t mean you can decide which safety protocols are or aren’t for you. Do you think it’s alright for nurses or doctors to decide they don’t want to wear a mask if they operate on you? The anti vax people also say the same about masks. Should those people also have the “freedom of choice” to tend to a Covid patient unvaxxed and unmasked and then treat you next? It’s their right to make up their own mind?
Three of us, ages 66, 71 and 86, all came down with Covid in January and took Ivermectin from Day 1. On the third morning, all of us were feeling like brand new. My wife and I are unvaccinated. Her Father is vaccinated.
Ivermectin is Not indicated for use as a treatment for COVID. Well, unless you are a horse. The FDA has made this very clear. The fact that you took it and then felt better is not proof of anything. fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
Again, more misinformation spreading on this website. Folks, please follow medical professionals’ advice in regards to COVID and its treatment. Someone with a degree from Google University isn’t qualified to give you any advice on medical treatment.
If there is any misinformation here, it is coming from you, Joerg H.
I want to clarify some muddiness in the preceding and following posts:
1.) CDC and Fauci clearly said the Vaccine would prevent both the catching and spreading of COVID. That was said to be wrong by the manufacturers. It will help you get “less sick” which is still playing out
2.) Have you noticed how many people actually have N95 masks? I am double vaxxed and boosted but I hate misinformation and use disposable tight fitting when I deem it necessary.
That’s an oversimplification of what was said, and what’s the truth. The bottom line is that the vaccine will do both, however, its ability to keep you from “catching” COVID is rather short-term. However, its ability to keep you from getting so sick you get hospitalized and/or dying lasts much longer.
To be more accurate the vaccine actually Never stops the virus from entering your body. The “short-term” effect, however, is that the vaccine will stop the virus Very early (probably before it leaves your nasal tract). Longer-term the vaccine trains your body on how to fight the virus, and that’s where the “not as sick/dead” part comes in.
You can’t prove anything you just said!
Joerg is missing my point. Numerous CDC and government officials (including PSA’s still running) have falsely claimed that vaccine prevents the catching and spreading of COVID. Factual evidence proves those claims are false.
What evidence? Again, I listen and get my information from medical professionals who are experts in the field such as those at the CDC, FDA, and NIH. Not from some guy with a YouTube channel transmitting from his mothers basement who has a degree in Conspiracy Theory from Google University.
“Not from some guy with a YouTube channel transmitting from his mothers basement who has a degree in Conspiracy Theory from Google University.”
Funny stuff!!!
But, those basement guys sometimes go on to found companies like Microsoft, Apple, and HP…Elon Musk.
Well John, I will go with what I feel is best for me and my family than “John on the Internet”. However, thanks for your 2 cents.
Wise Choice Greg….Listen to the experts and be skeptical of anything you read on the Internet!
See John, Greg did not mention a thing about listening to your so-called experts! All he said was that he does what he feels is best for him and his family! That is the way it should be. But people like you have to keep pumping the narrative that the shot is the greatest thing you can do. That is a total fallacy! There are thousands of people that now are dealing with Blood Clots from the shots! Are you going to tell me that is not true John?
Ed there is a tiny risk of Blood Clots with the J and J shot , just like there is from many other things, from birth control pills to orthopedic surgery. Everything has a risk factor. That said you are far more likely to get a blood clot if you catch Covid then from the jab. Btw it’s not “1000’s “,
All that said I think the number of people reading what the few of us are saying is even fewer…we have hijacked the thread enough. Make your own choice and you may not trust Government but the overwhelming majority of the reputable medical profession disagree with much of what you say. Be skeptical of the skeptics!
Aloha and be safe.
John, no reply button on my screen for your post to Ed that includes: “but the bottom line is soldiers can’t pick and choose what they will or won’t do. They have an important mission and their battle readiness is crucial. …Slippery slope when the Internet or Cable News can dictate what our troops do.”
Well, therefore, the govt has an even greater responsibility to make sure their mandates to the military are reasonable and not harmful. Have they?
If “battle readiness is crucial” how then can they place females in combat roles?
Rod W. Not sure what is going on with BOH these days but I am encountering the same issue with no “reply” option on several of comments I wish to respond to. But I agree, the Military has absolutely no right to force anyone to take an unproven, untested shot. It may turn out down the road that the shots were the way to go. Who knows? But there has not been enough time to test and experiment with these shots to make me feel comfortable and confident, that there will be no negative effects down the road. That is the reason I am all for being able to say no to the shots, no matter what profession you are in! Mahalo Rod!
Ed,
When I joined the Marines in 1963, they gave us a bunch of shots and added to the initial load as we traveled to different countries. But, I don’t recall them giving us any questionable, rushed shots.
But, discharging, skilled, competent soldiers, airmen, sailors, coasties, and Marines for refusing shots is unconscionable. They are putting the nation’s security at risk over a political decision. And, if they are discriminating based on rank or certain skills, that needs to be known.
I’m a federal prime contractor – small potatoes – but there are COVID vax hoops I have to jump through, it’s crazy.
As you know from my posts I have taken 3 shots so far and plan to take the 4th – but that’s my free will choice.
Take care,
Rod
I’m on Oahu now and must say the vast majority of people are not wearing masks anywhere indoors or out,including myself, if I get covid I get covid, nothings gonna stop me from partying
At this point…we have known what our best measures are. Getting vaccinated or getting Covid and recovering. The studies are not showing masks are as effective unless they are N95 grade. So, just be safe out here and make the best decisions for your own self!
Crispelie, you missed an option: 20+million dead worldwide so far, and counting, at a minimum. Decide wisely.
J G, you missed the back up stats that there is only 6% of the count that was directly related to Covid with no comorbitities. Did you know that 262 million people suffer from Asthma? How about 3 million people die each year from COPD. Both asthma and COPD are respiratory. Any type of respiratory virus is going to cause severe harm to someone with just these two respiratory diseases alone; and people with these two illnesses shouldn’t be wearing an N95 mask. We need to learn to live with this and start educating people on healthy lifestyles, figuring out why chronic disease has risen drastically in 30 years and let people make their own choices.
JG is pushing fear! That does not help anyone to make an intelligent decision about their own health.
I think Crispelie has a point. Those 20 million deaths were mostly unvaccinated and also if everyone actually did wear a N95 mask properly I’m sure many of those deaths could have been prevented. I think she is saying get vaccinated and if in a high risk situation wear a good mask.
That makes sense to me
Mahalo Beat of Hawai’i, once again your insightful reporting is helping others plan for what could be game changing event.
I’m incredibly worried about what’s coming in the COVID wave.
After being away from Ohana for far too long, several are scheduled to visit Maui in September.
I can’t believe we’re dealing with the unknown, again.
Stay safe guys!
Aloha and Blessings to all 🙏🏼💕🌺
Hi Pam.
Thank you. We have seen this coming for about 3 or 4 weeks. What about over there on Maui? Have a great weekend!
Aloha.
Yep, here now and want to be safe and keep others safe so we will be wearing masks in door!
We just are getting over Covid. We’re vaccinated and boosted. Our 2 year old grandson who had it first and unvaccinated got it from his cancer survivor (other) grandma who wears a mask everywhere and still got it. We all basically had bad colds. Lasted a couple of days, even for the toddler, nothing higher than a 100.2 fever. Fatigue lasted a few days longer. It’s very contagious but it’s very mild—we now have a count of 17 we know who have had it this past month and NO ONE was “sick” beyond bad cold symptoms. That included several over 65, 2 with diabetes, 1 with Parkinson’s, and a couple unvaccinated toddlers! Coming to Maui is October and hoping masks are optional.
CC, your experience seems to be a common one. The virus appears to becoming less and less virulent then in the beginning and of course had none of those people been vaccinated your story would likely have been quite different. Seems like vaccines, herd immunity and the gradual decline in the severity of Covid is all heading in the right direction.