161 thoughts on “Lt. Gov. Just Called for 72-Hour Shutdown in Hawaii”
Richard C
Aloha BOH Bro’s
Here’s why many of us are so frustrated with our government leaders and their lack of vision when dealing with covid surges.
Just about everyone posting on BOH have come to the same conclusion after any holiday gatherings we have a spike of covid cases.
So instead of having plans in place to proactively address holiday gatherings government officials like Green wait till the last second to suggest a 72hr lockdown.
This isn’t exclusive to Hawaii it’s just example of why you should not rely on our leaders to lookout for best interests
I’m not in favor of lockdowns, but if people are unwilling to abide by limitations on gatherings, this seems reasonable to me-if it’s enforced. I’m praying that some of the experts are right, and that Delta will follow the pattern it displayed in the UK and India, and it will peak and then rapidly descend. If a 72 hour hold helps keep the hospitals from being overrun with cases a week or so after Labor Day, then it would be worth it-just my opinion. The mixed messages, however, don’t help at all.
Thanks for the updates BOH. Keep them coming. We’re supposed to go to a business meeting in late October, and are wondering if that will happen.
It’s all over. Shut downs won’t work. The state was locked down for over a year, how did that work out? Perhaps Lt. Gov Green should watch this youtube.com/watch?v=JhRb5hnTseU Your only hope is to get vaccinated and it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen in Hawaii.
At this point the entire population of Hawaii should stand up to these idiots and tell them to go screw themselves! All a shutdown does is hurt businesses and people. The islands were effectively shut down for a year and it hasn’t changed anything. Don’t blame this on the tourists, this is community spread, if there is such a thing. Hell, they can’t even TEST for the Delta Variant unless they do a GENOME test, which they are not doing. Furthermore, Green is inflating the numbers by claiming 4 positive cases for every one case because he’s ASSUMING that there are 4 people in a household. It’s time to stop listening to both Green & Ige and take back Hawaii.
Goldie, your comment about inflating numbers is absolutely not true. Probable cases are a very small percentage of the new case count, and they have to meet certain requirements of likelihood. Please don’t spread more misinformation about what is already a confusing situation.
The phrase “72-hr ahutdown” is a joke. First, it cannot be managed. Second, even if manageable, Labor Day weekend is 2 days away. Third, incoming visitors cannot and will not adhere to this. This group of Govt officials is the largest Circus show on the planet.
Cannot and will not adhere to this. Ok. So he shuts down restaurants stores beaches etc. I think the tourists will have Zero choice but to adhere to it. Entitled much?
Part of the problem is the term “Shut Down.” It means different things to different people. Does Shut Down mean Stay-At-Home? Does it mean no travel without quarantine? Are they talking to residents or visitors? Define the terms and clearly state the intention. That’s what needs to happen in order to avoid confusion.
This is nothing more than a “he said, He said” when NEITHER one of them will step up and actually call for help from the federal government by getting the west coast based Navy hospital ship sent over to Hawaii with its 3,000+ hospital beds if indeed the hospitals are in such dire shape! And to think that he actually wants to be governor when he is pretty much as feckless as the governor!
And to those rambling on about masking, if they REALLY worked then wouldn’t it all have gone away last year such that vaccines would have never been required. Especially vaccines that neither protect those vaccinated from getting it or for them transmitting it. If you are foolish enough to get tested and it comes back positive then IMMEDIATELY ask to be tested for the flu because even the CDC said a recent flu shot or any number of respiratory viruses can actually cause false positives!
I have been traveling to Hawaii for the last 15 years, every time we go, we say the politicians are destroying this beautiful state. Roads are horrible, traffic is terrible, a lot of businesses and restaurants are closing. With this new requirement, who would want to visit? They need to change it, if you have proof that you had a vaccine, already had Covid or have a negative test, should be sufficient. However, looking at the stats on vaccines, it doesn’t look like they have much protection longer then 6 months. Natural immunity needs to be tracked to see how long it lasts, maybe we can then rely on science. Since Hawaii is an island, and have limited medical facilities, maybe medical staff should be treating people, at the time of positive results instead of waiting for the emergency patient!!
If conditions are so terrible why do you keep going? Not be be unkind, but If you are so concerned, why not get a grass roots movement going to elect politicians you feel might be able to make changes for the better? And …….why keep going on vacation to places with the issues you mention? If Hawaiian tourists feel upset their ideal vacation spot is now less than ideal – consider how the residents feel, or better yet read what is happening to Venice.
Thanks BOH, I read your info often to keep up with all the Hawaii news. I’m sad that Covid has been spreading again there. I still want to come, but will have to wait on news.
Thanks
Hope it is just the cold…however, these days don’t jump to early conclusions and go out and perhaps spread covid around. The Delta variant does start with more cold like symptoms.
Some regulation that finally favors the vaxxed as opposed to the unvaxxed on Oahu. It’s a start. It’s not enough, but it should help. Tourists, this means you are also subject to the requirements.
Beginning Sept. 13 through at least November 13, people on Oahu will need to show proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test within the past 48 hours to enter restaurants, bars, indoor gym facilities, entertainment and recreational settings. This includes workers as well. The sale of alcohol will also cease at 10 p.m. as another mitigation effort.
The Safe Access O‘ahu program does not include grocery stores or farmers markets, but does include establishments such as museums and movie theaters. All affected businesses will have to have signs posted to the public.
Customers can present a physical copy of their vaccination card or a photo of it on their phone. Those who are not vaccinated can present a negative COVID-19 test approved or given emergency use authorization by the federal Food and Drug Administration.
There are exemptions for those under 12 and those who will be in certain businesses under 15 minutes, say to pickup a takeout order.
Undoubtedly, some will view these measures as coercive, not preventative and it will harden their stance regarding accepting the vaccine. Meaningful vaccination levels thus become more difficult to achieve.
Perhaps most surprising is Hawaii’s willingness to establish a de facto caste system among its residents.
Ironically, it may well be that the tourist operators, restaurant entrepreneurs, and general public sector business owners the state seeks to protect will be the ones to bear the burden.
My Kid Physician at a University is just starting her next work rotation, this one is all COVID Teams.
Majority of patients are young 20-50 years old unvaccinated and/or refused to mask up.
I see the LT Governor is back to playing politics again. Wasnt he originally the one against shut downs?
Blame the locals all you like but visitors are also bring covid to Hawaii. You cannot tell me with the massive influx of tourists that some of the covid is not making it back to the islands. I assume that locals have to test to get home as well BOH?
Actually that are supposed to follow the rules, but they don’t have to provide any test results to get on a plane. Therefore they can choose not to test, and are then forced to do quarantine, when they get home. So they technically don’t have to test, if their willing to do the quarantine. I’ve heard many stories of this happening, an witnessed this from a few people on flights that were held up at the checkpoints.
Seriously though, do you think their going to quarantine for 10 days, if they aren’t going to follow their own state’s rules? 🤔
The longer we wait, the longer the eventual shutdown. Covid virus variants ain’t gonna wait for your wishy-washy response, attitude, and policies. And then you’ll being clawing out of a deeper trench. Everyone, and I m an everyone needs to suck it up for a minimum of three weeks. Remember today’s date and see where we’re at in three weeks.
Oh, it’s 3 weeks to flatten the curve now? What happened to 2 weeks?
The gullibility of some people is astounding…
Speaking of gullibility… Masks no longer protect people enough indoors? Instead, we can now let infected vaccinated people indoors to infect other vaccinated people…But can’t let unvaccinated people indoors with the same or possibly less viral loads, with a mask? Brilliant…. Atleast it’s good science that a group of vaccinated people can be together and still have to wear their masks!
Yes, us too. However, we own 3 weeks on Kauai’s North Shore. We have been trading our time for elsewhere for 2 years now, but this still costs us money. We need to get out of it now, and just forget about returning to the lovely island we were married on.
Really all you folks shouldn’t be upset with Hawaii. It is ALL(Hawaiian and Mainlander) the people who refuse to get vaccinated who are to blame for this continuation. And of course, all we need is another even more dangerous mutation which will throw us all back on our heels as the stopping of the virus depends on vaccination.
Fact, all viruses mutate. Fact, mutated viruses are Less Deadly than the initial virus, not more dangerous. Fact, people that have had Covid have antibodies and don’t need the ‘jab’. Not everyone can, or should, take this vaccine. Furthermore, this is not a “true vaccine”, if it were, it would stop and/or kill the virus. It does not! Ige and Green are wholly to blame because at this point it’s all about politics, money, and control. Never in the history of the world have people been threatened, forced, intimidated, and ostracized because of a virus that has a 99.97% survival rate. What’s in this so called vaccine? What are the long term affects? Do you know how many people have died after taking these Covid vaccines? Over 45,000 in the US alone but it’s hard to find that info because the media and government are suppressing those facts.
Beat of Hawaii gents, you should really remove this comment – do you really want to be responsible for the continued spread of misinformation? There is zero evidence that 45k people have died from taking the covid vaccine.
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JohnW
Goldie, You are spreading totally false info that 45000 have died from the vaccines….simply not true. The entire medical community and scientific research community has not managed to pull together and keep what you said a secret. You are not privy to some special knowledge that they are withholding from the public for some reason.
If you don’t want to get the vaccine nobody is forcing you. But why are you trying to influence others from doing something that could save their life?? Why do you want to influence their freedom to choose.
The people dying from Covid now are the unvaccinated. Many of them were vulnerable to misinformation like you just posted and are dying everyday because of it.
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Heyward B.
Good Day AP.
We also are preparing to cancel our two round trips of late 2021 and early 2022.
It is not that we feel done with Hawaii; it is we now strongly sense Hawaii is done with us.
Good luck finding any islands anywhere that will take you for any less than Hawaii is doing. That being said I love each of you who have decided not to come to Hawaii anymore. More room and better prices for the rest of us!
I am getting cancellations to my tourist business. They are specifically doing so because of Gov Ige’s appeal to not come. My customers sited they did not want to compete for a local”s bed at the hospital etc. So I have the unvaccinated of Hawaii” to thank for that. If you are vaccinated your chances of a hospital visit is almost nil. Get vaccinated so we can all get back to work and give our hospital workers a break.
The news has reported that 9/10 infected persons are VACCINATED. So get off your high horse and thank the man in the mirror. Or, better yet, your elected officials.
Source? This flies in the face of everything medical and science professionals say. I would suggest skipping media, alternative or mainstream, and going straight to sites that report such data.
What about those of us who have already had covid and have natural aminity? I do not plan on getting the shot when in fact I have a better amunity than those that have gotten the shot.
MK
Mike there is zero proof that your immunity is any better than the vaccine. In fact this is an upper respiratory virus for which we have very few natural immunities against
I don’t know where you’re getting your information. I’m a healthcare worker directly in the middle of the madness of a pandemic. Nearly 80% of San Diego us now fully vaccinated. I work in a very big hospital. Every one of our inpatient Covid19 positive patients are ALL unvaccinated. Some even came into our ER saying this Covid thing was a hoax and we better not give them any of those fake Covid medications. They ended up on a ventilator. Yeah if you have the vaccine you can still get sick. Just not nearly as bad. If you get a flu vaccine you can still get the flu. Your body has antibodies to fight it off better though.
Bottom line: get the vaccine. There is a reason so many diseases have been eradicated…..vaccines.
But those 9 of 10 ( IF your “news is correct) aren’t overwhelming your Hawaiian hospitals. Ask the doctors & nurses. A Maui nurse recently posted that 98% of their hospitalized COVID patients were UNvaccinated. I believe the nurse.
Gov. Ige and Lt Green are both politicians. Gov. Ige said “…there are currently no plans to shut down.” So the very next day is no longer “currently”, and he can change his mind and say / do whatever he wants. Based on the COVID-19 rates and hospital occupancy, I think shutdown is, unfortunately, inevitable. Very sad. And very, very avoidable.
I don’t know why y’all keep talking about number of ICU beds in HI. Where I am, we have a large medical center, and our number of beds in ICU is very limited as well. Still many here who refuse to get vaccinated. I’m fully vaccinated and will get booster when made available. I do not worry as much about getting sick as I did before the shots. It’s a simple thing and provides a level of safety, and peace of mind. HI residents are finding it easy to lock down the state because you have a body of water separating you from the mainland. Not so easy when people just get in their car and drive 30 minutes across a border. So what keeps us safe?!?!
Thanks to those for taking care of others. If only more people would get in line, it could help reduce everone’s risk.
Thx
Dear Jocelyn, you need to upload your cdc vaccine card to your Hawaii safe travel account, fill out health questionnaire 24 hours before flight I think it is. Have a safe, fun, & wonderful trip! I’ve postponed my Oahu trip until 2023. Be blessed 😇 psalms 91:11 & John 3:16
This is the same disgraceful rhetoric that will continue. Why? Politically motivated. Even the CDC acknowledged that masks,are useless. That outdoor activities are essential. That our children need protection against the insanity going on in schools.
China gets auto chips. Russia gets pipeline. Taliban gets US arms and equipment. Cartels get open boarders. We get mandates, lockdowns, stupid inflation, hostage crises. HELLO. Someone PLEASE tell me you get this!!!
I feel bad for Governor Ige. For months everyone was furious that he pretty much shut the State of Hawaii down. Now they’re furious he won’t shut the State down. Get vaccinated people and let’s move on. That’s what we did with polio and thank God it was eradicated.
At a risk of beating the proverbial dead horse. Hawaii wants the tourists dollar but not the tourists. They don’t want us vaccinated, negative Covid tested individuals but they also won’t HIGHLY encourage their own citizens to get the shots. Somebody needs to make up their minds. None of us are spending all this money by coming to Hawaii to quarantine and spread a virus that we don’t have. As the saying goes, take care of your business at home before you worry about the neighbors. The shots may not be the answer but the certainly don’t hurt the spread!!
That isn’t entirely true. They have been strongly encouraging people here to get vaccinated, enough so that some residents have accused leadership of gaslighting by not giving tourists some of the blame.
If there is a major shortage of hospital beds, why not ask the president to do send the medical ship from San Diego to Pearl Harbor. That would help with the overflow.
Thank you so much for bringing this up! Everyone forgets that ships were in place for use at any time with the previous administration. Betting they are still available for any overage.
Ummm Fred. It’s really quite this simple, if you’re following the Scientific Data and actual Facts. 👇
Vaccinated or Not, you can still contract and spread this virus, and believe it or not you can still get very sick and Die, if your vaccinated, even though it may be a smaller percentage than someone who hasn’t been vaccinated. In the BIG picture no matter whether you’re vaccinated or not, you have a really high chance to survive this virus, (97%, and likely higher if you’re under age 65).
Like you said, It was your choice to take it, when it was right in the fine print that the vaccine had a good chance to help mitigate the affects, not prevent you from getting sick (or dying for that matter), even though that is what you were told early on by far too many media sources.
how many in your life are you willing to sacrifice? I have lost three personal friends who were all young and in good health and unvaccinated. You all keep spewing statistics just like during gun mass shootings these people are someones Mom dad son daughter friend etc. 620,000 US Citizens dead due to covid but you make it like its no big deal.
With everything up in the air I’m glad that I’ve postponed my trip until 2023. Right now I just don’t feel comfortable traveling anywhere where the cases are high. It has been my lifelong dream to come to Hawaii for my vacation & I’m getting very excited for whenever I do come!! 🐢🐠🌺🍍🥥🌏🏖🏝🛩🌞🌈🌊🎉🕶👙🛍🩴👒📅 Stay safe everyone & be blessed…psalms 91:11😇
That’s my question as well. Our trip begins on October 18 for 3 weeks. I don’t want to cancel but if I don’t do it soon, I’ll lose money. We are fully vaccinated as well.
Here’s the issue with current Delta variant of covid, lockdowns or not once it’s gotten a foothold in a community there’s no stopping it.
If Ige was in his first term looking for re-election he’d lockdown in a New York second, but at this point would do little slow the spread.
That’s why Josh Green is advocating for a Labor Day holiday lockdown. He knows it will do little to stem the tide of covid spread might even make it worse, but is a good look for his campaign to be come governor.
As I’ve posted here several times there’s no hiding from this pandemic at some point your community your state is going to have to deal with a covid surge.
Hawaii is in the middle of their covid surge it was unavoidable.
Aloha Rob and Jeff.
I can’t imagine how you guys get anything else done with all you do for all of us out here. This plethora of daily confusion is unnerving, to say the least.
Mahalo for continuing to keep everyone informed on the latest information coming from our “leaders”
Y’all are fantastic 🌺
Aloha, we’re following you to keep informed about travel to the islands for our customers. Mahalo for all of your efforts to help with this! We love your state and wish you the best with fighting Covid. Please stay safe!
WOW, these two just can’t they’re stores straight. Ige and Green wiggle more that a bowl of Jello. Just hoping that in Nov, voters vote out all the incumbents and start fresh. Need representation for the hospitality sector that will support the multi billon dollar industry.
Without the US military and tourism, investments from Japan, Hawaii is just a bunch of islands in the middle of the Pacific Ocean that don’t like mainlanders. Just be careful what you wish for. You may not like the outcome.
When you hear it from the Governor, it’s official. Any, other comments are speculation, suggestions or rumors. I like Josh Green, but he doesn’t call the shots.
I understand that vaccinated people can still transmit this horrible deadly disease, but I don’t think stopping travel or shutting down restaurants is the answer. Get vaccinated. I’m ok with having to show proof of a vaccination card for indoor restaurants. I have not fact checked. , but from what I understand tourist only make up 2% of the confirmed cases. I understand it’s people’s right to not take the vaccination l, but it should also be my right to visit your beautiful state. Mahalo and much aloha.
Not trying to argue, but why should it be your right to visit? That’s not how “rights” work. Your “right” to visit doesn’t supersede the state government’s “right” (and responsibility) to protect its resources, which include its population and medical staff, equipment, medications, and hospital beds. It’s an archipelago 3,000 miles from the nearest landmass and help.
We sit perched on healthcare disaster. Kaiser has already postponed elective surgery. ICU beds are full or close to full, depending on which island and which hospital. We cannot sustain the status quo.
The numbers here are already beyond ridiculous for what our healthcare system can sustain. The current numbers do not reflect the 300-400 illicit gathering of college students this past weekend; it will be a couple more weeks before this super-spreader event is reflected in the totals. Nurses and respiratory therapists are being imported from the mainland. Despite the assertion that only 2% is tourists, since they are largely vaccinated and not testing, there is no proof to the assertion. If vaccinated locals can travel to the mainland and bring it home, then vaccinated tourists can, too. Yes, unvaxxed populations here are responsible for certain pockets of community spread, but every person who resides or visits here plays a role as well.
Test all travelers to HI, resident, non-resident, no exceptions. Perhaps this will slow people traveling. The airlines need to stop running sales to HI for the time period in which our numbers are exploding.
*Everyone* needs to take personal responsibility for the role they play. Tourists need to consider their impact on our infrastructure, and if they come, stay in their resort, or better yet, reschedule till this virus is under control here and on the mainland. Residents and tourists need to mask, vax, stay within their family bubble, stay home instead of going out. Get groceries by pick up or delivery. Order take out instead of dine in. This is not the time for sightseeing tours.
I can only hope that the powers that be start to make some forceful decisions to disrupt the current status and get us back on track now, because waiting until later is a recipe for true disaster.
I like Lt. Gov. Green and will likely vote for him, but he needs to recognize he is not the Governor yet, and he needs to follow the chain of command when speaking on behalf of our state.f
It’s a healthcare disaster that could have been prevented. Hawaii has had over a year and a half to increase hospital, ICU, and ventilator capacity. Unfortunately, they declined to do so.
More pressure from those with short term economic interests – keep those tourista dollars coming while
the undereducated and unvaccinated clog up the medical system, likely not having to pay any of the medical bills,
and infecting the visitors who are claimed to be 98% free of infection and the entire bunch dont have to observe any
quarantines…. I guess the hope is that this thing just burns through the population quickly AND we dont get more variants
as a result… after all, we all know that this thing is just a HOAX and there is no long term harm done to people with Covid…
Now that’s what I call the Aloha spirit… more like an addicts fantasy…
Thank you for your post but it really is not the tourists fault for the current spread of the virus. The numbers I have seen reported… show only 2% of the case are from tourists. Please get the vaccination.
Yes, I’m sure that all the people who died from the virus are in heaven singing the Hallelujah chorus, and their mourning families and friends would agree! NOT. Do you have any idea how many arrive the hospital and beg fore vaccine, or rethink their previous “it’s just a flu” position and beg others to do so?
Stop listing to FB posts and Faux News and start following science and medical news. And please, stop spreading the lies in forums like this one.
Get real, get masked, get vaxed, and be part of the solution instead of the problem.
Mahalo for your coverage and best wishes during this scary time. The mixed messaging is problematic, particularly since there is some evidence that the case surge has been part of locals gathering, rather than brought in from visitors. They must convince locals to socially distance, vaccinate, and limit gatherings, even ‘ohana.
There must also be consistent messaging from the mayors and rules consistent for all visitors. A lockdown with no visitors is not enough. Have to have the locals buy in and do their part. The last year shows that tourists will come back in numbers. Hawaii must get it under control so that openings and closings don’t linger on.
I hope this happens. We miss the islands and were planning on coming back for the second time this year in the near future.
Aloha BOH Bro’s
Here’s why many of us are so frustrated with our government leaders and their lack of vision when dealing with covid surges.
Just about everyone posting on BOH have come to the same conclusion after any holiday gatherings we have a spike of covid cases.
So instead of having plans in place to proactively address holiday gatherings government officials like Green wait till the last second to suggest a 72hr lockdown.
This isn’t exclusive to Hawaii it’s just example of why you should not rely on our leaders to lookout for best interests
“This isn’t exclusive to Hawaii it’s just example of why you should not rely on our leaders to lookout for best interests”
Hope you are not just finally realizing this?
Not sure a 3-Day STAY HOME (PAUSE) over a 3-day Holiday weekend really equates to a Shutdown? But, it certainly wouldn’t hurt…. 😉
I’m not in favor of lockdowns, but if people are unwilling to abide by limitations on gatherings, this seems reasonable to me-if it’s enforced. I’m praying that some of the experts are right, and that Delta will follow the pattern it displayed in the UK and India, and it will peak and then rapidly descend. If a 72 hour hold helps keep the hospitals from being overrun with cases a week or so after Labor Day, then it would be worth it-just my opinion. The mixed messages, however, don’t help at all.
Thanks for the updates BOH. Keep them coming. We’re supposed to go to a business meeting in late October, and are wondering if that will happen.
Hi Lee.
Thanks. We hope it works for you to return next month.
Aloha.
It’s all over. Shut downs won’t work. The state was locked down for over a year, how did that work out? Perhaps Lt. Gov Green should watch this youtube.com/watch?v=JhRb5hnTseU Your only hope is to get vaccinated and it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen in Hawaii.
Enough With The Political Gamesmanship Between IGE and GREEN.
You’re Both Driving Us Nuts!
At this point the entire population of Hawaii should stand up to these idiots and tell them to go screw themselves! All a shutdown does is hurt businesses and people. The islands were effectively shut down for a year and it hasn’t changed anything. Don’t blame this on the tourists, this is community spread, if there is such a thing. Hell, they can’t even TEST for the Delta Variant unless they do a GENOME test, which they are not doing. Furthermore, Green is inflating the numbers by claiming 4 positive cases for every one case because he’s ASSUMING that there are 4 people in a household. It’s time to stop listening to both Green & Ige and take back Hawaii.
Goldie, your comment about inflating numbers is absolutely not true. Probable cases are a very small percentage of the new case count, and they have to meet certain requirements of likelihood. Please don’t spread more misinformation about what is already a confusing situation.
The phrase “72-hr ahutdown” is a joke. First, it cannot be managed. Second, even if manageable, Labor Day weekend is 2 days away. Third, incoming visitors cannot and will not adhere to this. This group of Govt officials is the largest Circus show on the planet.
*shutdown
What would be your solution to slowly down the virus spread on the islands? Just curious….
The governor could shut down the airport those visitors would have no choice.
Cannot and will not adhere to this. Ok. So he shuts down restaurants stores beaches etc. I think the tourists will have Zero choice but to adhere to it. Entitled much?
Do the top two guys even talk to each other? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Part of the problem is the term “Shut Down.” It means different things to different people. Does Shut Down mean Stay-At-Home? Does it mean no travel without quarantine? Are they talking to residents or visitors? Define the terms and clearly state the intention. That’s what needs to happen in order to avoid confusion.
that’s pretty clear shut down means shut down. The governor could stop all incoming flights. Not allow any visitors to actually go out into Hawaii.
This is nothing more than a “he said, He said” when NEITHER one of them will step up and actually call for help from the federal government by getting the west coast based Navy hospital ship sent over to Hawaii with its 3,000+ hospital beds if indeed the hospitals are in such dire shape! And to think that he actually wants to be governor when he is pretty much as feckless as the governor!
And to those rambling on about masking, if they REALLY worked then wouldn’t it all have gone away last year such that vaccines would have never been required. Especially vaccines that neither protect those vaccinated from getting it or for them transmitting it. If you are foolish enough to get tested and it comes back positive then IMMEDIATELY ask to be tested for the flu because even the CDC said a recent flu shot or any number of respiratory viruses can actually cause false positives!
I have been traveling to Hawaii for the last 15 years, every time we go, we say the politicians are destroying this beautiful state. Roads are horrible, traffic is terrible, a lot of businesses and restaurants are closing. With this new requirement, who would want to visit? They need to change it, if you have proof that you had a vaccine, already had Covid or have a negative test, should be sufficient. However, looking at the stats on vaccines, it doesn’t look like they have much protection longer then 6 months. Natural immunity needs to be tracked to see how long it lasts, maybe we can then rely on science. Since Hawaii is an island, and have limited medical facilities, maybe medical staff should be treating people, at the time of positive results instead of waiting for the emergency patient!!
you can rely on science now. All of that’s been studied and you are wrong.
If conditions are so terrible why do you keep going? Not be be unkind, but If you are so concerned, why not get a grass roots movement going to elect politicians you feel might be able to make changes for the better? And …….why keep going on vacation to places with the issues you mention? If Hawaiian tourists feel upset their ideal vacation spot is now less than ideal – consider how the residents feel, or better yet read what is happening to Venice.
Thanks BOH, I read your info often to keep up with all the Hawaii news. I’m sad that Covid has been spreading again there. I still want to come, but will have to wait on news.
Thanks
Are Oahu new restrictions going to go everywhere?
oneoahu.org/safe-access-oahu/
Likely…there are no original thinkers in State and County government.
This is the biggest joke of a State I have ever lived in.
Aloha BOH Bro’s
“I got the wrong vaccine”
Just a day after my 2 week anniversary of getting my second covid jab I’m home sick with a cold. I should have gotten a rhinovirus vaccination. 🤦
Hi Richard.
Please feel better soon!
Aloha.
Home with a cold sure beats an ICU….currently every ICU patient in Hawaii is unvaccinated….hope you feel better soon, lucky you were vaccinated!
Because the ICU is a 100% guarantee for every Covid patient there ever was… I missed that data in the presentation
Hope it is just the cold…however, these days don’t jump to early conclusions and go out and perhaps spread covid around. The Delta variant does start with more cold like symptoms.
Some regulation that finally favors the vaxxed as opposed to the unvaxxed on Oahu. It’s a start. It’s not enough, but it should help. Tourists, this means you are also subject to the requirements.
Beginning Sept. 13 through at least November 13, people on Oahu will need to show proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test within the past 48 hours to enter restaurants, bars, indoor gym facilities, entertainment and recreational settings. This includes workers as well. The sale of alcohol will also cease at 10 p.m. as another mitigation effort.
The Safe Access O‘ahu program does not include grocery stores or farmers markets, but does include establishments such as museums and movie theaters. All affected businesses will have to have signs posted to the public.
Customers can present a physical copy of their vaccination card or a photo of it on their phone. Those who are not vaccinated can present a negative COVID-19 test approved or given emergency use authorization by the federal Food and Drug Administration.
There are exemptions for those under 12 and those who will be in certain businesses under 15 minutes, say to pickup a takeout order.
This is the Health Pass requested by Maui mayor correct?
Good Day Dee.
Thank you for sharing this information.
Undoubtedly, some will view these measures as coercive, not preventative and it will harden their stance regarding accepting the vaccine. Meaningful vaccination levels thus become more difficult to achieve.
Perhaps most surprising is Hawaii’s willingness to establish a de facto caste system among its residents.
Ironically, it may well be that the tourist operators, restaurant entrepreneurs, and general public sector business owners the state seeks to protect will be the ones to bear the burden.
Hogwash! even the “vaccinated” can carry and transmit the virus to other vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals…stay home
and or mask up with an appropriate mask!
My Kid Physician at a University is just starting her next work rotation, this one is all COVID Teams.
Majority of patients are young 20-50 years old unvaccinated and/or refused to mask up.
What would a shut down mean for visitors? Our family is flying in on the Saturday before labor day.
I see the LT Governor is back to playing politics again. Wasnt he originally the one against shut downs?
Blame the locals all you like but visitors are also bring covid to Hawaii. You cannot tell me with the massive influx of tourists that some of the covid is not making it back to the islands. I assume that locals have to test to get home as well BOH?
Hi Paul.
Yes, the same rules apply to everyone. It is just that visitors aren’t apt to choose unsupervised quarantine as an option whereas locals might.
Aloha.
Actually that are supposed to follow the rules, but they don’t have to provide any test results to get on a plane. Therefore they can choose not to test, and are then forced to do quarantine, when they get home. So they technically don’t have to test, if their willing to do the quarantine. I’ve heard many stories of this happening, an witnessed this from a few people on flights that were held up at the checkpoints.
Seriously though, do you think their going to quarantine for 10 days, if they aren’t going to follow their own state’s rules? 🤔
The longer we wait, the longer the eventual shutdown. Covid virus variants ain’t gonna wait for your wishy-washy response, attitude, and policies. And then you’ll being clawing out of a deeper trench. Everyone, and I m an everyone needs to suck it up for a minimum of three weeks. Remember today’s date and see where we’re at in three weeks.
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Oh, it’s 3 weeks to flatten the curve now? What happened to 2 weeks?
The gullibility of some people is astounding…
Speaking of gullibility… Masks no longer protect people enough indoors? Instead, we can now let infected vaccinated people indoors to infect other vaccinated people…But can’t let unvaccinated people indoors with the same or possibly less viral loads, with a mask? Brilliant…. Atleast it’s good science that a group of vaccinated people can be together and still have to wear their masks!
Hey Florida man,
Why are you still posting on a Hawaii site?
We’re done with Hawaii. This is the third trip planned and canceled. Will definitely find somewhere else to go.
Yes, us too. However, we own 3 weeks on Kauai’s North Shore. We have been trading our time for elsewhere for 2 years now, but this still costs us money. We need to get out of it now, and just forget about returning to the lovely island we were married on.
Really all you folks shouldn’t be upset with Hawaii. It is ALL(Hawaiian and Mainlander) the people who refuse to get vaccinated who are to blame for this continuation. And of course, all we need is another even more dangerous mutation which will throw us all back on our heels as the stopping of the virus depends on vaccination.
Fact, all viruses mutate. Fact, mutated viruses are Less Deadly than the initial virus, not more dangerous. Fact, people that have had Covid have antibodies and don’t need the ‘jab’. Not everyone can, or should, take this vaccine. Furthermore, this is not a “true vaccine”, if it were, it would stop and/or kill the virus. It does not! Ige and Green are wholly to blame because at this point it’s all about politics, money, and control. Never in the history of the world have people been threatened, forced, intimidated, and ostracized because of a virus that has a 99.97% survival rate. What’s in this so called vaccine? What are the long term affects? Do you know how many people have died after taking these Covid vaccines? Over 45,000 in the US alone but it’s hard to find that info because the media and government are suppressing those facts.
Beat of Hawaii gents, you should really remove this comment – do you really want to be responsible for the continued spread of misinformation? There is zero evidence that 45k people have died from taking the covid vaccine.
Goldie, You are spreading totally false info that 45000 have died from the vaccines….simply not true. The entire medical community and scientific research community has not managed to pull together and keep what you said a secret. You are not privy to some special knowledge that they are withholding from the public for some reason.
If you don’t want to get the vaccine nobody is forcing you. But why are you trying to influence others from doing something that could save their life?? Why do you want to influence their freedom to choose.
The people dying from Covid now are the unvaccinated. Many of them were vulnerable to misinformation like you just posted and are dying everyday because of it.
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Good Day AP.
We also are preparing to cancel our two round trips of late 2021 and early 2022.
It is not that we feel done with Hawaii; it is we now strongly sense Hawaii is done with us.
good cya there are plenty of us happy to take your place
Where ya gonna go? Europe? It is the same all over. Don’t blame Hawaii, blame the pandemic.
Good luck finding any islands anywhere that will take you for any less than Hawaii is doing. That being said I love each of you who have decided not to come to Hawaii anymore. More room and better prices for the rest of us!
Mexico is open and beautiful!!
I am getting cancellations to my tourist business. They are specifically doing so because of Gov Ige’s appeal to not come. My customers sited they did not want to compete for a local”s bed at the hospital etc. So I have the unvaccinated of Hawaii” to thank for that. If you are vaccinated your chances of a hospital visit is almost nil. Get vaccinated so we can all get back to work and give our hospital workers a break.
The news has reported that 9/10 infected persons are VACCINATED. So get off your high horse and thank the man in the mirror. Or, better yet, your elected officials.
name your source or ?
Source? This flies in the face of everything medical and science professionals say. I would suggest skipping media, alternative or mainstream, and going straight to sites that report such data.
There’s no such news and you have no credible source for your ridiculous comment.
I think you have that almost exactly backward.
Nine out of 10 who are hospitalized are unvaccinated.
what news?
What about those of us who have already had covid and have natural aminity? I do not plan on getting the shot when in fact I have a better amunity than those that have gotten the shot.
MK
Mike there is zero proof that your immunity is any better than the vaccine. In fact this is an upper respiratory virus for which we have very few natural immunities against
absolutely false
I don’t know where you’re getting your information. I’m a healthcare worker directly in the middle of the madness of a pandemic. Nearly 80% of San Diego us now fully vaccinated. I work in a very big hospital. Every one of our inpatient Covid19 positive patients are ALL unvaccinated. Some even came into our ER saying this Covid thing was a hoax and we better not give them any of those fake Covid medications. They ended up on a ventilator. Yeah if you have the vaccine you can still get sick. Just not nearly as bad. If you get a flu vaccine you can still get the flu. Your body has antibodies to fight it off better though.
Bottom line: get the vaccine. There is a reason so many diseases have been eradicated…..vaccines.
But those 9 of 10 ( IF your “news is correct) aren’t overwhelming your Hawaiian hospitals. Ask the doctors & nurses. A Maui nurse recently posted that 98% of their hospitalized COVID patients were UNvaccinated. I believe the nurse.
Gov. Ige and Lt Green are both politicians. Gov. Ige said “…there are currently no plans to shut down.” So the very next day is no longer “currently”, and he can change his mind and say / do whatever he wants. Based on the COVID-19 rates and hospital occupancy, I think shutdown is, unfortunately, inevitable. Very sad. And very, very avoidable.
I don’t know why y’all keep talking about number of ICU beds in HI. Where I am, we have a large medical center, and our number of beds in ICU is very limited as well. Still many here who refuse to get vaccinated. I’m fully vaccinated and will get booster when made available. I do not worry as much about getting sick as I did before the shots. It’s a simple thing and provides a level of safety, and peace of mind. HI residents are finding it easy to lock down the state because you have a body of water separating you from the mainland. Not so easy when people just get in their car and drive 30 minutes across a border. So what keeps us safe?!?!
Thanks to those for taking care of others. If only more people would get in line, it could help reduce everone’s risk.
Thx
So if we both have cdc vaccination cards, what else is required to travel to Oahu??? Supposed to leave September 10
Dear Jocelyn, you need to upload your cdc vaccine card to your Hawaii safe travel account, fill out health questionnaire 24 hours before flight I think it is. Have a safe, fun, & wonderful trip! I’ve postponed my Oahu trip until 2023. Be blessed 😇 psalms 91:11 & John 3:16
Thank you so much for all your helpful information!
This is the same disgraceful rhetoric that will continue. Why? Politically motivated. Even the CDC acknowledged that masks,are useless. That outdoor activities are essential. That our children need protection against the insanity going on in schools.
China gets auto chips. Russia gets pipeline. Taliban gets US arms and equipment. Cartels get open boarders. We get mandates, lockdowns, stupid inflation, hostage crises. HELLO. Someone PLEASE tell me you get this!!!
I understand the news to be very different than your portrayal. The sky is not falling. Aloha.
Better wake up. Make an effort and review New Zealand’s proactive policies.
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This is not the place for political rants about foreign countries, borders and cartels.
And sorry, but outdoor activities and going unmasked is not going to keep your children safe.
CDC never said masks are – Useless !
I get it John. I promise you’re not alone.
How does Hawaii function at all with Green and Ige opposing each other? Aren’t they supposed to be a leadership team?
I feel bad for Governor Ige. For months everyone was furious that he pretty much shut the State of Hawaii down. Now they’re furious he won’t shut the State down. Get vaccinated people and let’s move on. That’s what we did with polio and thank God it was eradicated.
At a risk of beating the proverbial dead horse. Hawaii wants the tourists dollar but not the tourists. They don’t want us vaccinated, negative Covid tested individuals but they also won’t HIGHLY encourage their own citizens to get the shots. Somebody needs to make up their minds. None of us are spending all this money by coming to Hawaii to quarantine and spread a virus that we don’t have. As the saying goes, take care of your business at home before you worry about the neighbors. The shots may not be the answer but the certainly don’t hurt the spread!!
That isn’t entirely true. They have been strongly encouraging people here to get vaccinated, enough so that some residents have accused leadership of gaslighting by not giving tourists some of the blame.
If there is a major shortage of hospital beds, why not ask the president to do send the medical ship from San Diego to Pearl Harbor. That would help with the overflow.
Thank you so much for bringing this up! Everyone forgets that ships were in place for use at any time with the previous administration. Betting they are still available for any overage.
probably because they are already headed to Texas and Florida
If people don’t want to get vaccine and get covid..that is their choice why punish us that took vaccine..which even if got covid will be mild.
Ummm Fred. It’s really quite this simple, if you’re following the Scientific Data and actual Facts. 👇
Vaccinated or Not, you can still contract and spread this virus, and believe it or not you can still get very sick and Die, if your vaccinated, even though it may be a smaller percentage than someone who hasn’t been vaccinated. In the BIG picture no matter whether you’re vaccinated or not, you have a really high chance to survive this virus, (97%, and likely higher if you’re under age 65).
Like you said, It was your choice to take it, when it was right in the fine print that the vaccine had a good chance to help mitigate the affects, not prevent you from getting sick (or dying for that matter), even though that is what you were told early on by far too many media sources.
how many in your life are you willing to sacrifice? I have lost three personal friends who were all young and in good health and unvaccinated. You all keep spewing statistics just like during gun mass shootings these people are someones Mom dad son daughter friend etc. 620,000 US Citizens dead due to covid but you make it like its no big deal.
With everything up in the air I’m glad that I’ve postponed my trip until 2023. Right now I just don’t feel comfortable traveling anywhere where the cases are high. It has been my lifelong dream to come to Hawaii for my vacation & I’m getting very excited for whenever I do come!! 🐢🐠🌺🍍🥥🌏🏖🏝🛩🌞🌈🌊🎉🕶👙🛍🩴👒📅 Stay safe everyone & be blessed…psalms 91:11😇
How is October looking
I hope no outbreak from labor day holiday
Thank you
That’s my question as well. Our trip begins on October 18 for 3 weeks. I don’t want to cancel but if I don’t do it soon, I’ll lose money. We are fully vaccinated as well.
Aloha BOH Bro’s
Here’s the issue with current Delta variant of covid, lockdowns or not once it’s gotten a foothold in a community there’s no stopping it.
If Ige was in his first term looking for re-election he’d lockdown in a New York second, but at this point would do little slow the spread.
That’s why Josh Green is advocating for a Labor Day holiday lockdown. He knows it will do little to stem the tide of covid spread might even make it worse, but is a good look for his campaign to be come governor.
As I’ve posted here several times there’s no hiding from this pandemic at some point your community your state is going to have to deal with a covid surge.
Hawaii is in the middle of their covid surge it was unavoidable.
Aloha Rob and Jeff.
I can’t imagine how you guys get anything else done with all you do for all of us out here. This plethora of daily confusion is unnerving, to say the least.
Mahalo for continuing to keep everyone informed on the latest information coming from our “leaders”
Y’all are fantastic 🌺
Hi Pam.
Thank you! 😘
We are happy that the work we do is valuable to others.
Aloha.
Aloha, we’re following you to keep informed about travel to the islands for our customers. Mahalo for all of your efforts to help with this! We love your state and wish you the best with fighting Covid. Please stay safe!
WOW, these two just can’t they’re stores straight. Ige and Green wiggle more that a bowl of Jello. Just hoping that in Nov, voters vote out all the incumbents and start fresh. Need representation for the hospitality sector that will support the multi billon dollar industry.
Without the US military and tourism, investments from Japan, Hawaii is just a bunch of islands in the middle of the Pacific Ocean that don’t like mainlanders. Just be careful what you wish for. You may not like the outcome.
Hi Mark.
Thanks for some levity. We can always use that. We appreciate your many comments.
Aloha.
When you hear it from the Governor, it’s official. Any, other comments are speculation, suggestions or rumors. I like Josh Green, but he doesn’t call the shots.
I understand that vaccinated people can still transmit this horrible deadly disease, but I don’t think stopping travel or shutting down restaurants is the answer. Get vaccinated. I’m ok with having to show proof of a vaccination card for indoor restaurants. I have not fact checked. , but from what I understand tourist only make up 2% of the confirmed cases. I understand it’s people’s right to not take the vaccination l, but it should also be my right to visit your beautiful state. Mahalo and much aloha.
Sometimes the simple answer is the easiest….
Get Vaccinated and/or wear a mask = Less cases and No lockdown.
😉
Not trying to argue, but why should it be your right to visit? That’s not how “rights” work. Your “right” to visit doesn’t supersede the state government’s “right” (and responsibility) to protect its resources, which include its population and medical staff, equipment, medications, and hospital beds. It’s an archipelago 3,000 miles from the nearest landmass and help.
We sit perched on healthcare disaster. Kaiser has already postponed elective surgery. ICU beds are full or close to full, depending on which island and which hospital. We cannot sustain the status quo.
The numbers here are already beyond ridiculous for what our healthcare system can sustain. The current numbers do not reflect the 300-400 illicit gathering of college students this past weekend; it will be a couple more weeks before this super-spreader event is reflected in the totals. Nurses and respiratory therapists are being imported from the mainland. Despite the assertion that only 2% is tourists, since they are largely vaccinated and not testing, there is no proof to the assertion. If vaccinated locals can travel to the mainland and bring it home, then vaccinated tourists can, too. Yes, unvaxxed populations here are responsible for certain pockets of community spread, but every person who resides or visits here plays a role as well.
Test all travelers to HI, resident, non-resident, no exceptions. Perhaps this will slow people traveling. The airlines need to stop running sales to HI for the time period in which our numbers are exploding.
*Everyone* needs to take personal responsibility for the role they play. Tourists need to consider their impact on our infrastructure, and if they come, stay in their resort, or better yet, reschedule till this virus is under control here and on the mainland. Residents and tourists need to mask, vax, stay within their family bubble, stay home instead of going out. Get groceries by pick up or delivery. Order take out instead of dine in. This is not the time for sightseeing tours.
I can only hope that the powers that be start to make some forceful decisions to disrupt the current status and get us back on track now, because waiting until later is a recipe for true disaster.
Nail. Head. You hit it.
I like Lt. Gov. Green and will likely vote for him, but he needs to recognize he is not the Governor yet, and he needs to follow the chain of command when speaking on behalf of our state.f
It’s a healthcare disaster that could have been prevented. Hawaii has had over a year and a half to increase hospital, ICU, and ventilator capacity. Unfortunately, they declined to do so.
More pressure from those with short term economic interests – keep those tourista dollars coming while
the undereducated and unvaccinated clog up the medical system, likely not having to pay any of the medical bills,
and infecting the visitors who are claimed to be 98% free of infection and the entire bunch dont have to observe any
quarantines…. I guess the hope is that this thing just burns through the population quickly AND we dont get more variants
as a result… after all, we all know that this thing is just a HOAX and there is no long term harm done to people with Covid…
Now that’s what I call the Aloha spirit… more like an addicts fantasy…
Thank you for your post but it really is not the tourists fault for the current spread of the virus. The numbers I have seen reported… show only 2% of the case are from tourists. Please get the vaccination.
How can you say that unless visitors are tested upon arrival? It is well known that vaccinated people can get and spread the virus.
Yes, I’m sure that all the people who died from the virus are in heaven singing the Hallelujah chorus, and their mourning families and friends would agree! NOT. Do you have any idea how many arrive the hospital and beg fore vaccine, or rethink their previous “it’s just a flu” position and beg others to do so?
Stop listing to FB posts and Faux News and start following science and medical news. And please, stop spreading the lies in forums like this one.
Get real, get masked, get vaxed, and be part of the solution instead of the problem.
Mahalo for your coverage and best wishes during this scary time. The mixed messaging is problematic, particularly since there is some evidence that the case surge has been part of locals gathering, rather than brought in from visitors. They must convince locals to socially distance, vaccinate, and limit gatherings, even ‘ohana.
There must also be consistent messaging from the mayors and rules consistent for all visitors. A lockdown with no visitors is not enough. Have to have the locals buy in and do their part. The last year shows that tourists will come back in numbers. Hawaii must get it under control so that openings and closings don’t linger on.
I hope this happens. We miss the islands and were planning on coming back for the second time this year in the near future.