11 thoughts on “Hawaiian Airlines Slips to 5th After 18-Year On-Time Run”
David
With Runway 8 Left closed due to construction, all jet arrivals are restricted to a single runway (4 Right). All jet departures use the Reef Runway (8 Right). So operations are really restricted right now, and it affects everyone. HAL more so because they have more flights.
I guarantee you that once 8L re-opens, HAL will be doing their shortcut approach up the Pearl Harbor Channel. This will reduce the taxi times needed to get back to the Terminal 1 gates.
This wouldn’t actually be true. Since Hawaiian Airlines ran 18 years for the most on-time carrier for the United States, (2021 —> 2022: 84.2%) it would’ve dropped their performance rate as if the airline had too much delays. Hawaiian Airlines is still one of the best airlines out there and due to on-time rates and slipped 5th place, the airline would be knocked off their feet and could’ve be one of the worst Airlines for reliability. They still ranked first after all.
Aloha. The Hawaii Department of Transportation runs the airport (and oversees construction projects)! Thats really all that needs to be said! Gross incompetence at every level. Former director of state Highways, Ed Sniffen now oversees the State DOT and is good at Press conferences and interviews and nothing else. Calling his office may help move it along, but not likely. The return on Hawaii tax dollar investment is miserable at best!
If you get out of the Hawaii bubble, look at well run States you’ll notice a trend.
The State of Florida will have built a second bridge across Tampa Bay before any construction project ( like say a pedestrian overpass in Maui) can get completed out in Hawaii.
Just imagine how poor the on time performance would have been if Hawaii had mainland weather.
Brad, your pro Florida bash Hawaiian perspective is a symptom of the SWA effect here. One of the factors why SWA’s attitude in the market is not appreciated by so many. We don’t want Hawaii to be like Florida, it’s not a place we aspire to emulate in any way.
The 8L construction affects HAL as a percentage of total flights more than any other airline, unfortunately. This affects all flights into Honolulu, however since HAL has the highest percentage of HNL commercial flights it is affected more than any other carrier in that, and always will be unless it becomes a mainland carrier, however that is not what HAL is, as HI goes, so goes HAL. Temporary, nothing else has changed from the previous 18 years of the best OT rating, although I heard through the grapevine that a certain approach is no longer available to HAL that was quicker into Honolulu bc SWA complained they couldn’t do it so now no one can do it. The real story is- is the runway widening going to be on time?
Judging from the construction projects over the past six decades, don’t count on it. Its all Hawaiian time, which means the unions have jobs and the public can wait. HNL was built with the arrival of the jet age and it will never be completed.
Heard the same thing Jay, the noise abatement approach to 8L may be gone due to SWA’s inability to do it. It’s not a skill thing, they just can’t realistically train all the potential crews to do it. One more example of the problems with having part time inter island crews at SWA. Watch for a dramatic increase in Ewa Beach noise when 8L opens up.
HAL’s ability to use, or not use the noise abatement approach to 8L was Never affected by SWA. It’s nothing and realistically requires no additional “training” over that of a student pilot… Its just used as a quick way to squeeze an extra airplane or two into the lineup if there’s space available. Nothing to do with being based in HNL or SWA not doing it.. Heck, we still don’t allow the National Guard to do it and a ton of those guys at HAL (also former Aloha) are in the Air Guard..
With Runway 8 Left closed due to construction, all jet arrivals are restricted to a single runway (4 Right). All jet departures use the Reef Runway (8 Right). So operations are really restricted right now, and it affects everyone. HAL more so because they have more flights.
I guarantee you that once 8L re-opens, HAL will be doing their shortcut approach up the Pearl Harbor Channel. This will reduce the taxi times needed to get back to the Terminal 1 gates.
This wouldn’t actually be true. Since Hawaiian Airlines ran 18 years for the most on-time carrier for the United States, (2021 —> 2022: 84.2%) it would’ve dropped their performance rate as if the airline had too much delays. Hawaiian Airlines is still one of the best airlines out there and due to on-time rates and slipped 5th place, the airline would be knocked off their feet and could’ve be one of the worst Airlines for reliability. They still ranked first after all.
Aloha. The Hawaii Department of Transportation runs the airport (and oversees construction projects)! Thats really all that needs to be said! Gross incompetence at every level. Former director of state Highways, Ed Sniffen now oversees the State DOT and is good at Press conferences and interviews and nothing else. Calling his office may help move it along, but not likely. The return on Hawaii tax dollar investment is miserable at best!
If you get out of the Hawaii bubble, look at well run States you’ll notice a trend.
The State of Florida will have built a second bridge across Tampa Bay before any construction project ( like say a pedestrian overpass in Maui) can get completed out in Hawaii.
Just imagine how poor the on time performance would have been if Hawaii had mainland weather.
Brad, your pro Florida bash Hawaiian perspective is a symptom of the SWA effect here. One of the factors why SWA’s attitude in the market is not appreciated by so many. We don’t want Hawaii to be like Florida, it’s not a place we aspire to emulate in any way.
The 8L construction affects HAL as a percentage of total flights more than any other airline, unfortunately. This affects all flights into Honolulu, however since HAL has the highest percentage of HNL commercial flights it is affected more than any other carrier in that, and always will be unless it becomes a mainland carrier, however that is not what HAL is, as HI goes, so goes HAL. Temporary, nothing else has changed from the previous 18 years of the best OT rating, although I heard through the grapevine that a certain approach is no longer available to HAL that was quicker into Honolulu bc SWA complained they couldn’t do it so now no one can do it. The real story is- is the runway widening going to be on time?
Judging from the construction projects over the past six decades, don’t count on it. Its all Hawaiian time, which means the unions have jobs and the public can wait. HNL was built with the arrival of the jet age and it will never be completed.
Heard the same thing Jay, the noise abatement approach to 8L may be gone due to SWA’s inability to do it. It’s not a skill thing, they just can’t realistically train all the potential crews to do it. One more example of the problems with having part time inter island crews at SWA. Watch for a dramatic increase in Ewa Beach noise when 8L opens up.
HAL’s ability to use, or not use the noise abatement approach to 8L was Never affected by SWA. It’s nothing and realistically requires no additional “training” over that of a student pilot… Its just used as a quick way to squeeze an extra airplane or two into the lineup if there’s space available. Nothing to do with being based in HNL or SWA not doing it.. Heck, we still don’t allow the National Guard to do it and a ton of those guys at HAL (also former Aloha) are in the Air Guard..
So how does that explain late departure flights out of Maui (OGG)? Specifically, HAL24. Flight aware shows it’s often 3hrs late now.
I noticed that in Febuary, flights from PDX-HNL were seriously delayed several times. One flight was delayed over 24 hours! I was very surprised.