One airline had two flights with the same issue on Friday as unruly passenger behavior on Hawaii flights is soaring. What’s concerning about incidents like this one that resulted in a 19-hour delay.
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The gate agent at Lihue violated FAR 135.121 (c)… “No certificate holder may allow any person to board any of its aircraft if that person appears to be intoxicated.” The rules are in place to prevent disruptions like this. The airline needs to be to be reprimanded for the violation, and the gate agent needs additional training or be fired.
Anyone else on this Lihue to Phoenix flight? We’ve had a terrible experience in dealing with the Airlines to figure out reimbursement for the flight we had to book to get home- our best option provided was 2 days later.
I don’t understand why inebriated passengers can’t just pass out. I get it, it’s a long rugged flight to anywhere from the islands. Don’t you just want to sleep it off? What I always used to do. Show up buzzing, sleep the flight off. Why make things difficult, damn.
Should not allow drunk passengers on the plane. With that being said the airline also continue to sell alcohol on flights which just leads to more problems. If you can’t fly without drinking don’t fly. If you want less problems quit selling alcohol.
See my previous post. The same law prohibits selling alcohol to individuals who appear intoxicated. There are laws for a reason.
Where are the Sky Marshals? Don’t we use or have them on long haul flights anymore. I don’t understand this. I think if airlines are not using them they better start rethinking their policies and safety standards. Thank you.
Hi Marilyn.
This should answer your question: https://beatofhawaii.com/could-federal-air-marshal-service-prevent-hawaii-flight-disruptions/.
Aloha.
Obviously the Federal Sky Marshals are there for a reason other than controlling drunks. In the long-ago past the railroads had their own police force that was primarily aimed at trespassers and hoboes. Why don’t the airlines jointly create a police force where they station one or more officers on each plane with the responsibility for passenger control. Don’t even need to be armed and it would leave the marshal’s free to deal with terrorists. Plus, make significant enhancements to punishment including reimbursement to to the airlines for losses incurred. A diverted flight costs crew time and fuel.
I am a retired American citizen from the mainland and live on Oahu. I live in Ewa Beach and was planning on taking a trip to the Big Island and another to the mainland in a few months. I’m canceling any plans I had been making to fly anywhere any airlines fly. I don’t have to fly anywhere and will never fly again until this all stops, period. Thanks.
The only problem with “deterrents” is that many of these incidents are drug/alcohol/mental illness-related so a “deterrent” is not really something an irrational person cares about.
1st offense: fine (+ actual costs to airline and passengers- paid to airline/passengers), possible jail time, and “1-5 years” on the no-fly list.
2nd offense: mandatory jail time and lifetime no-fly list.
Of course, airlines should be free to maintain their own no-fly lists, as well.
If you live in Hawaii, being on the no-fly list should be a pretty serious deterrent.
I, like all of you are getting sick and tired of this. When are the airlines going to ban together to produce a “Due not Fly list”. As it stands now a passenger canned be banned from one airline, but can fly on another carriers and act up again. The airlines seem to be more worried about profits than passenger/ crew safety. If a person knows they can be banned forever from flying, there might be less of these people acting out
They should change the rule that overseas fights need to reach the overseas midpoint before they are not turned back to the mainland. The rule should be that once they pass the one quarter point overseas, they will continue to their destination or the nearest land destination towards where they are headed. Making an 8 hour flight into a 19 hour flight doesn’t make sense for passengers or crew, unless it is an extreme emergency, but not a disruptive passenger.
Install numerous micro cameras around the jet seating areas and give flight attendants micro body cams. Let all passengers know they are being video recorded during the initial safety-check. It will be money well spent.
Ok. Are you going to support the fare hikes that will be necessary to pay for this?