33 thoughts on “Crazed Hawaiian Air Passenger | Mid-Flight Disaster Averted”
Linda R
Thank you so.much for Beat of Hawaii. I am a frequent traveler to the Big Island and love it there. I read your publication everyday to keep up on the news. I have a trip planned for the last week of November and wonder if readers can tell me how conditions are in Kona? Is it worth going? Thanks!
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Linda.
Thanks. I hope others will give you a hand with some specifics on Kona.
Aloha.
goolold
good old yanks
Laurie S.
There is a real possibility that this person became agitated because they were having a panic attack. Many people suffer mental heath issues. To label him “crazy” and condemn his actions without knowing his story is just bad reporting.
Cheryle S
Really, bad reporting? Grow up it was a crazy person. I get severe panic attacks but I don’t think about opening a freaking door midflight
Curtis C.
He was subdued by an off-duty police officer. Weren’t they trying to defund those guys?
Yvonne C
The off duty officer happens to be a friend of mine who was flying over to his vacation home.
Curtis C.
Thank him for me. it was a heroic action. I’m a huge supporter of our police and believe they get a bad rap.
Steve C
Wow, tried to open the door?!!!
That’s nuts. I honestly thought this was going to talk about a crazed passenger feeling the need to remove his mask on the plane for a few minutes. I recently flew on Delta and fell asleep in my seat. Evidently my masked hed slipped off my nose while asleep. Two extremely panicky crew members were able to shake me awake and reposition my mask. Their quick and heroic actions saved 147 passengers from catching Covid-19 and dying a horrible death.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Steve.
Thanks for the levity and all of your comments.
Aloha.
Sue S
I’m more concerned with the number of people in the plane. Almost full capacity! No social distancing???!!!
Nerd E.
On airbus planes, the door nestles behind an array of cleats and a set of L shaped guide tracks and has to move up some distance, to clear the cleats and exit the L track. When it’s dropped into the locked position, it’s not dependent on any moving parts to resist pressure because it settles behind the fixed cleats in the outer frame. The cleats in the door bear on the ones in the frame to resist outward pressure and the door is opened by lifting it to mis-align the cleats so the door cleats clear the frame cleats. That makes it a plug door although a different design than the typical Boeing door.
Spock V.
Turns out he just wanted to get William Shatner off the wing. #gowherenomanhasgonebefore
David B.
Actually, the doors on Airbus equipment are not plug doors, so the cabin pressure would assist one in opening the door mid-flight. There are mechanical locks.
There was a case with a flight attendant being injured when opening a door, as the aircraft hadn’t been depressurized yet. That is why Airbus now have warning lights on the doors indicating whether the cabin is still pressurized.
Scott C.
Thanks for the article. To clarify, “Disarm doors” means to disarm the automatic feature of the evacuation slides, not to move the locking mechanism to “manual.” Wouldn’t want one to deploy into a jetway on arrival, that might not go so well for the gate agent. I don’t think the cockpit can control the exit doors; besides, there’s no need to. As you mentioned, they are physically held in place by the pressure differential and are impossible to open above a certain altitude.
Beat of Hawaii
Hi Scott.
Thanks for clarifying that.
Aloha.
Nerd E.
It always amazes me when someone thinks they can open an exit at altitude. Without boring you with a bunch of physics and math, the pressure on an exit door at altitude is roughly 1120 LB / sq ft. Assuming an emergency exit door is roughly 10 sq ft, it would require a force of 11,200 lbs to open the door. Aircraft boarding doors have a much larger surface area and would require even greater force to operate.
It’s almost as if the aeronautical engineers did this on purpose……..
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Thank you so.much for Beat of Hawaii. I am a frequent traveler to the Big Island and love it there. I read your publication everyday to keep up on the news. I have a trip planned for the last week of November and wonder if readers can tell me how conditions are in Kona? Is it worth going? Thanks!
Hi Linda.
Thanks. I hope others will give you a hand with some specifics on Kona.
Aloha.
good old yanks
There is a real possibility that this person became agitated because they were having a panic attack. Many people suffer mental heath issues. To label him “crazy” and condemn his actions without knowing his story is just bad reporting.
Really, bad reporting? Grow up it was a crazy person. I get severe panic attacks but I don’t think about opening a freaking door midflight
He was subdued by an off-duty police officer. Weren’t they trying to defund those guys?
The off duty officer happens to be a friend of mine who was flying over to his vacation home.
Thank him for me. it was a heroic action. I’m a huge supporter of our police and believe they get a bad rap.
Wow, tried to open the door?!!!
That’s nuts. I honestly thought this was going to talk about a crazed passenger feeling the need to remove his mask on the plane for a few minutes. I recently flew on Delta and fell asleep in my seat. Evidently my masked hed slipped off my nose while asleep. Two extremely panicky crew members were able to shake me awake and reposition my mask. Their quick and heroic actions saved 147 passengers from catching Covid-19 and dying a horrible death.
Hi Steve.
Thanks for the levity and all of your comments.
Aloha.
I’m more concerned with the number of people in the plane. Almost full capacity! No social distancing???!!!
On airbus planes, the door nestles behind an array of cleats and a set of L shaped guide tracks and has to move up some distance, to clear the cleats and exit the L track. When it’s dropped into the locked position, it’s not dependent on any moving parts to resist pressure because it settles behind the fixed cleats in the outer frame. The cleats in the door bear on the ones in the frame to resist outward pressure and the door is opened by lifting it to mis-align the cleats so the door cleats clear the frame cleats. That makes it a plug door although a different design than the typical Boeing door.
Turns out he just wanted to get William Shatner off the wing. #gowherenomanhasgonebefore
Actually, the doors on Airbus equipment are not plug doors, so the cabin pressure would assist one in opening the door mid-flight. There are mechanical locks.
There was a case with a flight attendant being injured when opening a door, as the aircraft hadn’t been depressurized yet. That is why Airbus now have warning lights on the doors indicating whether the cabin is still pressurized.
Thanks for the article. To clarify, “Disarm doors” means to disarm the automatic feature of the evacuation slides, not to move the locking mechanism to “manual.” Wouldn’t want one to deploy into a jetway on arrival, that might not go so well for the gate agent. I don’t think the cockpit can control the exit doors; besides, there’s no need to. As you mentioned, they are physically held in place by the pressure differential and are impossible to open above a certain altitude.
Hi Scott.
Thanks for clarifying that.
Aloha.
It always amazes me when someone thinks they can open an exit at altitude. Without boring you with a bunch of physics and math, the pressure on an exit door at altitude is roughly 1120 LB / sq ft. Assuming an emergency exit door is roughly 10 sq ft, it would require a force of 11,200 lbs to open the door. Aircraft boarding doors have a much larger surface area and would require even greater force to operate.
It’s almost as if the aeronautical engineers did this on purpose……..